**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jun 08 03:00:02 2017 Jun 08 09:07:24 ant_work: https://github.com/unleashed/f2fs-backports/tree/master/f2fs-for-3.2 does not work with newer F2FS file systems, I tried this 4 year old port with my 3.5 kernel it did not boot from F2FS, thus I compiled the 3.10 version and used the port from https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/jaegeuk/f2fs-stable.git/refs/tags Jun 08 09:09:12 so, <3.10 is going to be without F2FS support :( unless someone backports from jaeguek's recent github. The 3.10 kernel I compiled, uses jeageuk's source 3.10.y Jun 08 09:10:11 ah, ant not here, guess he will read the livelog Jun 08 09:14:43 if 3.2 does indeed boot on akita, we would be pretty close to find what changed between 3.2 and 3.5 for example.. Jun 08 09:22:49 hi greguu Jun 08 09:22:52 greguu: http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=34558&view=findpost&p=283179 Jun 08 09:23:08 a post with the current status of my tests Jun 08 09:26:58 take your time to read it, I have spent roughly an hour to write it :) Jun 08 09:28:26 ok, so for booting from an SD card you of course need to use /dev/mmcblk0p1 and / or /dev/mmcblk0p2 instead of /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda2 Jun 08 09:30:22 If you could boot to the f2fs filesystem once, you should be able to boot again to it. Jun 08 09:32:13 can you try to boot from 2.6 to 4.12 using ext3 first, then setup a system and make sure it runs stable ? Jun 08 09:32:30 maybe something is not right with your akita Jun 08 09:32:33 ok, I'll try that too Jun 08 09:33:18 I have strong suspects that the f2fs partition is corrupted, or I might have done something really dumb which is not crossing my mind ATM Jun 08 09:34:12 I could not format the F2FS on the Zaurus, I formated it on x86. Make sure your SD cards are not broken. Also, you need to have f2fs-tools installed to be able to fsck f2fs Jun 08 09:34:44 so first set up a system on ext3, install all you need, make sure it runs stable and all is recognized Jun 08 09:35:03 I formatted on my x64 laptop as well, by installing f2fs-tools Jun 08 09:35:17 my SD cards seem to be ok: http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=34502&st=0&gopid=283180&#entry283180 Jun 08 09:35:26 ok Jun 08 09:37:12 ant has yesterday compiled two new kexecs based on 3.10 and 3.2, now I have seen he has removed them from LinuxPDA, mentioning wrong gcc version used: https://github.com/LinuxPDA/linux-kexecboot/commit/5b869169b942a96d3a8fc74fc944e6ff18e50ad9 Jun 08 09:38:00 yeh, need to gcc version 4.7 or maybe 4.9 Jun 08 09:38:25 I use 4.7 for older 3.x kernels Jun 08 09:39:56 anyway, leave out the f2fs first, make sure you can boot to a normal system, do a "pacman -Syu" to update .. (create a swap first , otherwise you run out of RAM) Jun 08 09:40:39 * greguu gone Jun 08 09:43:36 ok Jun 08 09:43:46 and g'night Jun 08 11:19:35 VartiWork, hi, good news Jun 08 11:19:46 the kernels I uploaded were flaky Jun 08 11:20:01 gcc 4.8 misbehavior wrt alignment Jun 08 11:20:21 so they won't boot on poodle/c860 as well Jun 08 11:20:43 I'll reupload Jun 08 11:36:46 bluelightning, hi Jun 08 11:37:01 hi ant_work Jun 08 11:37:01 fyi, on Ubuntu 16.04 you can build daisy and dora Jun 08 11:37:11 but not dsnny Jun 08 11:37:20 python issues I suppose Jun 08 11:37:54 I have tested for fun various bitbake revisions w/out any luck Jun 08 11:38:43 daisy and dora have the gcc5 issues for some recipes, that is just cherry-picking Jun 08 11:39:11 conclusion: I'll install an old debian 7 or ubuntu 12.4 on a spare partition :) Jun 08 11:39:39 it's a fatal serie of changes: python, gcc, binutils... Jun 08 11:40:01 ah, tar > 1.26 as well... Jun 08 11:40:17 don't do that ever if payed ;) Jun 08 11:48:37 yeah I can imagine that being painful Jun 08 11:49:04 hi ant_work, that's good to hear Jun 08 11:49:15 hi bluelightning Jun 08 11:49:22 hi VartiWork Jun 08 11:49:43 ant_work: I have seen your comment on LinuxPDA about the gcc problems Jun 08 11:50:17 looking forward for the new binaries Jun 08 11:50:18 I was so happy the buildsystem was finally fixed that I uploaded th ekernels without testing it... Jun 08 11:50:28 hehe I imagine Jun 08 11:50:57 btw check the channel's log, greguu has written you this morning Jun 08 11:50:58 I will go back in the past metadata, gcc 4.6 hassle-free Jun 08 11:53:12 VartiWork, I missed to backport [yocto] Fix for kernel 3.8/gcc-4.8 segfault on qemuarm Jun 08 11:54:00 now, gcc 4.7 had it's issues as well so go back Jun 08 11:54:08 to 4.6 Jun 08 11:54:48 ah, greguu said that he uses 4.7 for 3.x kernels... Jun 08 11:55:29 https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/meta-ti/2013-February/002198.html Jun 08 11:55:30 ^ Jun 08 11:55:35 one of the many Jun 08 12:00:35 VartiWork, I got counter-proposal for the akita: 79,00 + 15 ship Jun 08 12:00:51 instead of 119 + 15 Jun 08 12:01:03 my offer was 50 + 15 Jun 08 12:01:55 bluelightning, you don't have an akita but a tosa, don't you? Jun 08 12:02:46 I think I have akita and spitz, but I'm now in Europe again and away from my Zauruses Jun 08 12:03:07 ah, just for a while? Jun 08 12:03:15 although RP may have the akita I had, I can't remember if I kept it (it belongs to work - relic of the OpenedHand days I think) Jun 08 12:03:26 ant_work: two months Jun 08 12:03:44 ouch Jun 08 12:03:51 79 + 15... too much imho, but unfortunately that's about what you'd pay if you'd buy from Japan, due to shipping costs Jun 08 12:04:02 ant_work: well, it's summer here vs winter in NZ, so it's OK :D Jun 08 12:04:22 bluelightning, family is in NZ? Jun 08 12:05:03 ant_work: no they're here, the idea was they get to see my wife's family for a good amount of time Jun 08 12:05:13 ah, good then :) Jun 08 12:05:22 we figured best to do it now before they start school and it's more difficult to take a long trip Jun 08 12:06:00 I'd ask the people on #zaurus what Z they have, but right now it is in the middle of a heated discussion about immigration and terrorism, so better wait :) Jun 08 12:06:13 VartiWork, maybe I tell him I want the OLD battery :p Jun 08 12:06:35 hmm who? Jun 08 12:06:49 Hai ricevuto una controproposta per Sharp Zaurus SL-C1000 Hanheld PDA Linux Mini-Laptop Testato ok + Batteria Nuova. Jun 08 12:07:06 heh Jun 08 12:07:13 maybe he manufactured it :) Jun 08 12:07:32 if it's original it is worth, still after so many years :/ Jun 08 12:07:44 capacity will be 50% Jun 08 12:07:58 (I am not engineer) Jun 08 12:08:18 I have never checked how original vs. compatible batteries perform Jun 08 12:09:10 I think I got rid of the two 'compatible' in a few years and only kept the originals Jun 08 12:09:24 maybe one is in your c860 now... ;) Jun 08 12:09:30 joking Jun 08 12:09:51 I have tested from Service Menu, battery adjust Jun 08 12:09:53 I see.. I have 3 compatible ones, almost never used, one of them now can't be recharged at all Jun 08 12:09:56 hehe Jun 08 12:09:58 I did full-load Jun 08 12:10:12 ah, are there useful battery tools there? Jun 08 12:10:20 sort of Jun 08 12:10:37 in one menu it charges and you see th evoltage. then you can save the delta Jun 08 12:10:51 there should be some old msgs with details Jun 08 12:11:07 maybe in OESF Jun 08 12:12:52 aha, I'll check Jun 08 12:16:48 http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=25276 Jun 08 12:18:15 http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=5835 Jun 08 12:23:00 thanks, reading now Jun 08 12:23:02 "Did you by chance select the "Battery Voltage Adjustment" menu option in the diagnostic menu at any point? It resets the max charge level to the current battery level, which makes it very hard to actually get a battery properly charged enough to fix it." Jun 08 12:23:14 that's something to be careful about Jun 08 12:23:41 what? no, the menu is useful if the target voltage is lost (nand erase) Jun 08 12:24:16 i.e you charge it up to 4.2 then save it. The charger will stop once reached that voltage Jun 08 12:24:33 it is the '100%' charged level Jun 08 12:24:50 just a thresold Jun 08 12:30:46 I see Jun 08 22:21:52 Varti, gcc-cross-4.7.2-r13 fwiw Jun 08 22:30:28 hi Jun 08 22:30:38 still awake heh Jun 08 22:30:58 it was a long day in office... Jun 08 22:31:12 deadlines? Jun 08 22:32:18 say I was waiting for a technician who did not come Jun 08 22:32:52 then it was 7 so I got a snack and went back in office Jun 08 22:32:59 heh, not the first time I hear this Jun 08 22:33:10 now I'm at home, runing Ubuntu 12.04 Jun 08 22:33:25 I feel 5 years younger Jun 08 22:33:28 ;) Jun 08 22:34:56 someday I'd really want to try again Debian Woody with KDE... it was my first Linux Jun 08 22:39:55 ok, toolchain and first kernel almost built Jun 08 22:40:05 I'll test this and upload for akita Jun 08 22:42:56 great Jun 08 22:43:12 now I'm trying again to boot alarmz from f2fs Jun 08 22:43:21 ok, poodle done, testing it... Jun 08 22:43:23 brb Jun 08 22:44:09 fingers crossed Jun 08 22:48:19 ok Jun 08 22:48:52 remember is the old 3.2 with kexecboot 0.5.9 Jun 08 22:48:56 is just to test Jun 08 22:51:26 let me see if I can transfer with xchat Jun 08 22:52:33 failed... Jun 08 22:53:22 yep Jun 08 22:53:41 file transfers via irc has always been problematic for me Jun 08 22:53:51 even if we are using the same client heh Jun 08 22:54:18 * Offering installkit-akita.tar.gz to Varti Jun 08 22:54:18 * DCC SEND connect attempt to Varti failed (err=No route to host). Jun 08 22:54:30 I accepted it Jun 08 22:54:46 just put it on linuxpda then Jun 08 22:55:00 he, yes Jun 08 22:56:07 hmm alarmz still not booting, checked the partition with fsck and it was ok, hmm Jun 08 22:56:34 it booted only the first time Jun 08 22:57:03 have you added 'debug' instead of 'quiet' ? Jun 08 22:58:38 I have neither of them Jun 08 22:58:39 APPEND=root=/dev/mccblkp2 rootfstype=f2fs fbcon=rotate:1 noinitrd loglevel=3 Jun 08 22:58:47 adding debug now at the end Jun 08 22:58:54 instead of loglevel=3 Jun 08 22:59:36 ah Jun 08 22:59:53 it worked anyway Jun 08 23:00:15 I *knew* I did something silly Jun 08 23:00:21 this makes it deadly silent Jun 08 23:00:59 nope... I'm seeing the full log now, with both loglevel=3 and debug Jun 08 23:01:10 anyway, this was the problem: /dev/mccblkp2 Jun 08 23:01:11 last one wins Jun 08 23:01:20 debug is loglevel=7 iirc Jun 08 23:01:26 aha Jun 08 23:01:38 quiet is 4 iirc Jun 08 23:08:42 ok, finally booting Jun 08 23:10:32 debug is great for the boot, but useless after it, it keeps printing stuff in the shell, making it impossible to use it Jun 08 23:22:34 you need netconsole or serial Jun 08 23:22:56 I wll reboot and upload the old installkits Jun 08 23:23:09 updater.sh is also the older r27 Jun 08 23:23:19 kexecboot 0.59 Jun 08 23:23:25 no f2fs Jun 08 23:23:37 just to see it booting :) Jun 08 23:23:50 brb Jun 08 23:30:48 done Jun 08 23:31:49 Varti, let me know tomorrow, so I avoid to buy one Jun 08 23:31:55 good night Jun 09 01:23:05 ant_home: just tested the new 3.2 kexec, it works Jun 09 01:23:40 it boots everytime, tried to do some resets and switchoff/on sessions Jun 09 01:23:52 no problems found Jun 09 01:24:48 I have tried to boot the latest alarmz on ext4, but it always fails, nothing is shown on screen, maybe it requires the old boot.cfg syntax? Jun 09 01:25:05 setting debug didn't help Jun 09 01:25:32 also, it is quite slow to navigate through the menu, it needs 1 second to acknowkedge each keypress Jun 09 01:26:07 this is the log output in case it could be helpful: http://www.oesf.org/pics/IMG-20170609-02292.jpg Jun 09 01:26:27 going to sleep now, nite **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jun 09 03:00:03 2017