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Jul 31 10:35:48 <VartiWork> ant_work: hi
Jul 31 10:35:52 <VartiWork> ant_work: https://www.subito.it/telefonia/palmare-sharp-zaurus-sl-5500-accessori-padova-216161540.htm
Jul 31 10:36:36 <VartiWork> a very good price
Jul 31 10:46:31 <VartiWork> but from what I have read subito.it seems to be a haven for scammers... the fact that there's no seller feedback system doesn't help
Jul 31 11:03:56 <ant_work> ciao
Jul 31 11:04:14 <ant_work> well, on subito.it is better to meet, indeed
Jul 31 11:04:43 <ant_work> I have done good biz anyway, mostly videogames for my kid
Jul 31 11:05:34 <VartiWork> aha... I have never used it, but good that there are also honest ads there
Jul 31 11:06:18 <VartiWork> I guess that you have to be more careful there than on ebay
Jul 31 11:06:37 <ant_work> I have bought a stereo amplifier there, it appeared just after having imported one 100v from Japan (Buyee)...
Jul 31 11:07:30 <ant_work> btw the BT card is ok, I have one Socket as well
Jul 31 11:07:41 <VartiWork> you bought a second amplifier there after having bought one on Buyee?
Jul 31 11:07:43 <ant_work> don't remember G or K
Jul 31 11:07:54 <VartiWork> aha good
Jul 31 11:08:04 <ant_work> well, I bought the first on ebay kleinanzeigen (DE)
Jul 31 11:08:13 <ant_work> then a second one for the spares on buyee
Jul 31 11:08:26 <ant_work> finally found the third...
Jul 31 11:08:42 <ant_work> there are some special capacitors inside
Jul 31 11:08:49 <ant_work> and mos-fet
Jul 31 11:08:53 <VartiWork> btw I'm right now booting your 860 to check if my wifi card is working at all, I cannot make it work on the Akita under arch linux
Jul 31 11:08:59 <VartiWork> aha
Jul 31 11:09:43 <VartiWork> and I have put the OESF wiki back online: http://www.oesf.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
Jul 31 11:09:48 <ant_work> I am still very busy till mid-august, then I'll be alone at home for a week
Jul 31 11:09:59 <ant_work> so I will test a bit userspace
Jul 31 11:10:15 <VartiWork> great
Jul 31 11:10:40 <ant_work> ah, there is a network card as well
Jul 31 11:10:53 <ant_work> I have a 10M one, it is useful
Jul 31 11:11:17 <ant_work> ah, no..it is a modem :/
Jul 31 11:13:07 <VartiWork> http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=5846
Jul 31 11:14:21 <VartiWork> sorry, http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=5847
Jul 31 11:14:37 <VartiWork> the pink one is a wlan card
Jul 31 11:14:44 <VartiWork> I'll test that one as well
Jul 31 11:15:19 <ant_work> did you change the fw of the D-Link?
Jul 31 11:15:35 <ant_work> I am sure it did wpa years ago
Jul 31 11:16:01 <ant_work> while the socket didn't
Jul 31 11:16:26 <VartiWork> no, haven't used it yet
Jul 31 11:16:59 <VartiWork> my Canon Wifi seems to be not initialised on the 860, no power led
Jul 31 11:17:04 <ant_work> btw, I have seen people cleaning the gum with sodium-hypoclorite
Jul 31 11:17:13 <ant_work> the keys I mean
Jul 31 11:17:18 <VartiWork> aah
Jul 31 11:17:32 <ant_work> afaik the printing are below gum
Jul 31 11:17:40 <ant_work> so no risk
Jul 31 11:18:03 <VartiWork> I'd be very afraid to melt the keys :/
Jul 31 11:18:11 <ant_work> try with "varechina", is just 5%
Jul 31 11:18:22 <VartiWork> I have heard storied of that so called Retrobright
Jul 31 11:18:28 <ant_work> I used 14% s-h. to clean plastic parts
Jul 31 11:18:34 <ant_work> and to whiten it
Jul 31 11:19:32 <VartiWork> Retrobright is basically hydrogen peroxide
Jul 31 11:19:46 <ant_work> both oxydant
Jul 31 11:20:00 <VartiWork> it works at start, but it seems that the yellowing returns after a couple of years
Jul 31 11:20:15 <VartiWork> and it might weaken the plastic
Jul 31 11:20:20 <ant_work> see, I have rtreated an old laser printer, outside
Jul 31 11:20:30 <ant_work> shines now
Jul 31 11:23:54 <VartiWork> how long ago did you treat it?
Jul 31 11:24:12 <VartiWork> http://www.classic-computers.org.nz/blog/2013-01-15-retr0bright-only-temporary.htm
Jul 31 11:30:17 <VartiWork> oh, the wifi card actually works
Jul 31 11:30:52 <VartiWork> the power led is only switched on (along the "Link" one) when a connection is established
Jul 31 11:32:26 <VartiWork> browsing now oesf with NetFront :)
Jul 31 11:39:49 <ant_work> nice
Jul 31 11:40:21 <ant_work> I think it took 5-10 misn max
Jul 31 11:40:49 <ant_work> but again, 14% NACLO
Jul 31 11:41:49 <VartiWork> no, I mean how many years ago you did de de-yellowing?
Jul 31 11:41:53 <VartiWork> the
Jul 31 11:42:10 <ant_work> ah, it's recent
Jul 31 11:42:15 <ant_work> last summer
Jul 31 11:55:09 <ant_work> I think it depends on the material anyway
Jul 31 11:56:45 <VartiWork> yes, probably
Jul 31 11:57:12 <ant_work> here a little list
Jul 31 11:57:13 <ant_work> http://hillbrothers.com/sodium-hypochlorite/
Jul 31 11:58:12 <VartiWork> I have read that bromine, the flame retardant which causes the yellowing, is not used anymore in all the plastic cases made today
Jul 31 16:21:30 <ant_work> greguu, do you have any gcc7 toolchain to test?
Jul 31 16:21:45 <ant_work> let me know please
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