**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon May 21 02:59:57 2007
May 21 03:02:25 <dick-richardson> yes, but the user account is unable to mount
May 21 03:02:47 <dick-richardson> sudo mount -t cifs //srvr/Documents /media/Documents -o username=nobody,password=blank,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777
May 21 03:02:50 <dick-richardson> that's the command I'm using
May 21 03:04:14 <Sulis_> hmm, so that should be writable by everyone
May 21 03:05:28 <dick-richardson> yeah, the samba share is wide open since the only way to access it is locally or through my vpn
May 21 03:09:21 <Sulis_> and yet you can't write to it...interesting
May 21 03:10:05 <dick-richardson> it has me baffled. I can in windows and on the mac
May 21 03:13:20 <Sulis_> and can you write a file from root?
May 21 03:13:36 <Sulis_> just to make sure...
May 21 03:13:51 <dick-richardson> yes
May 21 03:17:01 <Sulis_> hrm
May 21 05:26:44 <tigert> morning
May 21 06:56:58 <melmoth> purée
May 21 06:57:01 <melmoth> oups
May 21 06:59:37 <slapin> hi, all!
May 21 07:00:02 <jsmanrique> hi
May 21 07:00:06 <jsmanrique> good morning from spain
May 21 07:00:20 <slapin> is it possible to install ssh to n800 from repository.maemo.org by apt means?
May 21 07:01:40 <TimRiker> slapin: dropbear should be installable with apt-get. but you have to have the right install sources configured.
May 21 07:02:38 <slapin> TimRiker, so, no openssh for maemo3.1 on repository.maemo.org then?
May 21 07:03:15 <slapin> (me rememners it was for 770 so I'm asking)
May 21 07:03:53 <TimRiker> slapin: dunno. I've only done dropbear and used that. it seems to work fine with my openssh client and server.
May 21 07:04:43 <slapin> TimRiker, thanks.
May 21 07:04:47 <TimRiker> np
May 21 07:05:44 <slapin> also - do anybody have some background info on maemo-launcher (specs on why, how, and implementation details if any)?
May 21 07:06:14 <TimRiker> http://downloads.maemo.org/product/openssh  - looks like openssh is there too.
May 21 07:25:56 <inz> slapin, maemo-launcher why == startup speed + improved memory sharing
May 21 07:26:54 <inz> slapin, implementation details from here: https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/trunk/maemo-launcher/
May 21 07:31:26 <slapin> inz, thanks!
May 21 07:39:42 <inz> slapin, the implementation details in short, a daemon listens on a socket and does fork() dlopen() dlsym("main") main()
May 21 07:40:16 <inz> slapin, i.e. no exec used
May 21 07:51:40 <Jaffa> Morning, all
May 21 07:52:23 <mk8> Hi to all
May 21 08:30:52 <AD-N770> good morning
May 21 08:54:25 <mk8> Hi to all ...
May 21 09:10:36 <florian> good morning
May 21 09:56:02 <guardian> damn i don't like the new maemo.org site :( like you click on a link and you have the feeling that nothing happened cause you keep seing the navigation menu and you have to scroll down so much to discover that you indeed switched page
May 21 09:56:37 <guardian> not to mention elements moving and flickering when hovering them :)
May 21 10:09:15 <thomsen> hi @ all
May 21 10:11:21 <thomsen> i'll recieve my n800 in some days and i have got some questions: is there somthing like evolution available ?
May 21 10:13:29 <rwhitby> there is claws imap email
May 21 10:15:26 <thomsen> well , mails are not the problem, i need a calendar which can connect to a groupware ( egroupware ) ... perhaps with syncml or ical
May 21 10:16:02 <rwhitby> nothing I know of then.
May 21 10:16:16 <rwhitby> (but I've only had my n800 for a month)
May 21 10:17:23 <thomsen> i found pimlico , it seems that there is such thing in development ... but no releases yet :-(
May 21 10:40:35 <florian> thomsen: Try the GPE packages from Graham's feed. They are quite close to what will be in the next release.
May 21 10:41:45 <florian> thomsen: http://linuxtogo.org/~florian/maemo/index.html
May 21 10:42:36 <florian> That might be useful.. and if you don't like it you can get rid of the packages easily. :)
May 21 10:46:56 <rwhitby> florian: close to the next release of what?  Nokia built-in apps?
May 21 10:47:33 <thomsen> oh, thanx florian, i'll try it as soon as i have my n800 ( hope tomorrow )
May 21 10:48:12 <florian> rwhitby: uh no, the n800 isn't meant to be used as a PDA. But GPE is going to release some bits :)
May 21 10:49:28 <Robot101> thomsen: I'm sure there are packages of the pimlico stuff for the n800
May 21 10:50:00 <X-Fade> guardian: Can you tell me which items flicker? An example?
May 21 10:54:34 <thomsen> Robot: i fount pimlico , but the sync modul is in a very early stage of developing
May 21 10:55:36 <thomsen> i know that the n800 is not a pda... but i think it is better to use native aps than an webinterface ...
May 21 10:56:03 <florian> indeed... in fact it is pretty useful as a PDA :)
May 21 10:56:11 <Robot101> thomsen: yeah, I agree. some syncml loving would be cool
May 21 10:56:23 <Robot101> I keep my phone's contacts and calendars synced to mobical.net
May 21 10:57:43 <guardian> X-Fade: well font size on the right blockn and also this vertical bar that describes where you are in the menu but disappear when you hover the item
May 21 10:57:51 <guardian> and also http://maemo.org/development/documentation/tutorials/Maemo_tutorial_bora.html layout is kinda fucked up
May 21 11:00:31 <X-Fade> guardian: Thanks, I will look into it..
May 21 11:01:21 <thomsen> well, syncing the phonenumbers is ( today in most cases ) not the problem, i'll use the webpad in my buissnes , to search spareparts and so on without carying a large laptop... and so it would be cool if i could enter a task for my purchase if i need something
May 21 11:01:56 <guardian> X-Fade: in fact i did a page refresh and the menu on the right no more flickers like it did : before the refresh, hovering the items changed their horizontal position
May 21 11:07:05 <X-Fade> guardian: Well items turn bold when hovered, so they get wider.
May 21 11:34:30 <thomsen> i'll get my n800 tomorrow - can you give me some advicess what to do/try first ? ( updates , nice tools, ... )
May 21 11:46:04 <Toni> test if it's water proof? ;)
May 21 11:50:23 <dpb> or see how well it bounces from the floor? :p
May 21 11:52:03 <zeenix> Toni: is your daughter big enough to do all these tests for you? :)
May 21 11:52:52 <Toni> zeenix: sure, and my son too :)
May 21 11:53:12 <Toni> they are fully qualified script kiddies :)
May 21 11:55:02 <thomsen> well , ok ... i think this are not informations which intresst me ;-)
May 21 11:57:17 <guardian> X-Fade: are you responsible for the maemo website ?
May 21 12:01:34 <saimonn> hi all
May 21 12:02:44 <saimonn> I have some problems (intempestive reboots) with my n770, is the channel #maemo the right place for discussing about that ?
May 21 12:06:29 <saimonn> the reboot occurs just after loading the desktop, while an "update" dbus message appears (I think the message comes from the Mweather applet I recently installed)
May 21 12:07:59 <jkyro_> maybe instability in dbus?
May 21 12:08:12 <jkyro_> the device reboots if the dbus daemon crashes
May 21 12:15:36 <dneary> hi
May 21 12:40:15 <xtuc> hallo, is kismet already portet to the n800?
May 21 12:42:22 <jayarama> Hi Jamey! Got some time?
May 21 13:02:05 <xtuc> hallo anyone out here using kismet on the n800?
May 21 13:09:53 <food> hi
May 21 13:10:05 <food> i have a problem running scratchbox
May 21 13:10:18 <food> mount: unknown filesystem type 'binfmt_misc'
May 21 13:10:37 <food> my kernel supports binfmt, but seems there's no fs called 'binfmt_misc'
May 21 14:02:23 <trevarthan> Hello. Can you tell me what formats the maemo video player can stream please? I know it will do mpeg1. I'm looking for a definitive answer on any other formats. Thanks!
May 21 14:02:36 <cosmo_> realvideo at least
May 21 14:04:51 <trevarthan> yeah, but there isn't a free encoder for that, is there?
May 21 14:06:35 <cosmo_> dunno
May 21 14:06:55 <trevarthan> This is for an open source project. So I need some free codecs. I tried divx. I'm not sure if I'm just not doing it correctly, or if divx isn't supported as a streaming protocol, but it isn't working for me. If I could get someone to say, 'yes', divx is supported. And here's a sample of a working divx video that you can stream. Or 'no', divx isn't a supported streaming protocol. Then that would help a lot.
May 21 14:07:01 <cosmo_> you might want to check out what format the mythtv streaming hacks use
May 21 14:07:23 <trevarthan> Surely someone at nokia wrote the video app. Surely someone can answer those questions for me.
May 21 14:07:34 <gla55> or if helix is open/free enough for you.. could probably be made to stream real
May 21 14:08:02 <gla55> dunno if any nokians are around
May 21 14:08:32 <trevarthan> cosmo_: let's leave mythtv out of it for now. Purely a discussion of streaming video. (but if you're curious, the only codec the gmyth folks have working is mpeg1)
May 21 14:09:10 <trevarthan> gla55: Do the helix folks have an open source encoder? I was under the impression that it was just a player or something.
May 21 14:10:29 <gla55> trevarthan: there's encoding parts too
May 21 14:18:22 <trevarthan> gla55: looks like it only outputs realaudio and ogg. ogg doesn't do video, and ra is a proprietary codec. So no, helix doesn't look like an option.
May 21 14:18:44 <trevarthan> Anyone from Nokia awake?
May 21 14:19:12 <gla55> no
May 21 14:19:19 <gla55> this is not an official nokia channel in any way
May 21 14:19:36 <gla55> trevarthan: helix producer doesn't do video?
May 21 14:19:51 <MoRpHeUz> trevarthan: you can use theora inside ogg for video (vorbis for audio)
May 21 14:20:01 <||cw> ogg does video
May 21 14:20:20 <MoRpHeUz> ogg is the container =)
May 21 14:20:25 <gla55> i'm pretty sure i've seen someone do helix to 3gp stream
May 21 14:20:58 <||cw> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogg#Ogg_codecs
May 21 14:21:36 <guardian> X-Fade: http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/3-x/howto_him_bora.html 1) documentation is so weak 2) what's this <source> + CDATA markup ? :D
May 21 14:21:50 <MoRpHeUz> ||cw: great =)
May 21 14:24:48 <trevarthan> So.... does ogg vorbis/theora stream on the n800? Has any tried it?
May 21 14:37:38 <X-Fade_> guardian: I'm currently only trying to fix layout issues. But I will forward your questions/problems..
May 21 14:39:45 <X-Fade_> guardian: It seems your bug is already know as https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1300
May 21 14:49:31 <guardian> indeed
May 21 14:49:49 <guardian> so the status is "stay tuned"
May 21 14:53:13 <X-Fade> guardian: Well, I think it will be fixed soon.
May 21 14:53:26 <guardian> i hope so :)
May 21 14:55:55 <X-Fade> I'm sure Quim will stay on top of that.
May 21 15:02:08 <trevarthan> X-Fade_: do you work for Nokia?
May 21 15:04:45 <X-Fade> trevarthan: No, I do not.
May 21 16:02:24 <acydlord> os[Linux 2.6.18-4-486 i686] distro[Debian 4.0] cpu[1 x AMD Athlon(tm) Processor @ 1.05GHz] mem[Physical : 250MB, 33.4% free] disk[Total : 26.81GB, 73.60% Free] video[nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro]] sound[]
May 21 16:07:47 <trevarthan> Hello. How do I type the delete key in the maemo terminal?
May 21 16:07:56 <trevarthan> Backspace doesn't seem to work.
May 21 16:14:48 <trevarthan> nm. `echo "set backspace=2" >> /home/user/.vimrc` fixed my backspace key.
May 21 16:15:23 <mgedmin> heh
May 21 16:19:02 <mk8> sorry, a little question. How is possible to do simething like a "service discovery" on N800 to connect two application device o application desktop without explicit configuration?
May 21 16:19:21 <mk8> Sorry for my english ... :(
May 21 16:43:20 <b0unc3> hello
May 21 16:45:49 <trevarthan> howdy
May 21 18:21:48 <b0unc3> to log in in maemo.org, can I use the same account of garage ?
May 21 18:22:34 <b0unc3> uhm... seems not to work...
May 21 18:24:27 <tko> b0unc3: there's a bug open about that...
May 21 18:25:54 <b0unc3> tko: ah ok
May 21 18:41:09 <unique311> where's Pupnik
May 21 18:41:16 <unique311> where is anybody..
May 21 18:41:35 <unique311> anybody here
May 21 18:45:12 <ptman> no
May 21 18:47:22 <keesj> it's the Void
May 21 18:52:46 <trevarthan> Welcome to Nokia purgatory.
May 21 18:53:26 <trevarthan> Where you will be forever cut off from the face of the Nokia code gods.
May 21 18:59:04 <keesj> I must say that I am slowly loosing intereset in maemo
May 21 18:59:42 <keesj> it's just that I can no come up with any great ideas to program any more
May 21 19:00:37 <keesj> if we ever get skpye that would be a great bonus again. but I even left it at the office today
May 21 19:01:38 <keesj> I al became a bit more clear yesterday when I filled the tableteer suvery
May 21 19:02:32 <keesj> I WANT to be happy with maemo/opensource and such so at first I gave the project as a hole a 8 or 9
May 21 19:03:16 <keesj> but as the question passed by I realized that there where plenty thing wrong that I was not willing to fix or was not able
May 21 19:04:24 <keesj> In september I will go to brasil! but I don't know what gadet to take with me.it's not going to be the n800 because of the short battery life
May 21 19:05:16 <keesj> perhaps I should just take a book :p
May 21 19:05:58 <koen> keesj: brasil is a "don't wear watches if you don't want to get robbed" country
May 21 19:07:27 <trevarthan> my only usability complaint is that the screen hurts my eyes for extended viewing. I love being able to browse the web while laying down though. At first I didn't like the size. I thought it was too big. But it's the same size as a check book and I stopped worrying about breaking the screen. I like the battery life. I think it's good enough, especially when the screen brightness is dimmed to 1 or 2 notches.
May 21 19:08:44 <trevarthan> I think I might prefer a tablet of a slightly larger size for extended use. Something easier on the eyes. But I like that the n800 travels so well. I'll definitely be taking it on vacations with me.
May 21 19:09:43 <keesj> trevarthan what is your battery life feeling: I need to charge every "hour , day, few days?
May 21 19:10:31 <trevarthan> I need to charge it every 3 hours, usually.
May 21 19:10:42 <jayarama> Hi jamey_away, got a couple of minutes?
May 21 19:10:48 <keesj> With the 770 for me it was every few day's, I was really impressed
May 21 19:11:08 <Pio> yeah my 770 does very well
May 21 19:11:24 <trevarthan> But my viewing sessions are usually much less than that, so usually I take it off hook for use, then put it back on the charger when I'm done. I rarely need to use it longer than it has an available charge.
May 21 19:12:33 <keesj> trevarthan I like to use it more like an always on device , I would want to run 24/7 irc o it, and other communication tools , gmail notier kind of things
May 21 19:13:28 <trevarthan> I've never been able to get my n800 to last more than a day without a reboot. It's the oddest thing. I'll put it on the charger and it'll be shut off when I come back.
May 21 19:13:54 <keesj> use it to copy files from my camera to the internet that kind of things
May 21 19:14:26 <koen> keesj: and when travelling you *really* want the 770 cover instead of the n800 sheepskin
May 21 19:14:50 <keesj> koen , I don't want to get robbed and don't want to lose my two kids and grilfriend .
May 21 19:14:51 <trevarthan> Yeah, I like to use IM on my n800, but the lack of a pidgin IM proxy makes that really difficult for me. So I usually only use IM and IRC when I'm not around another computer that can do it better.
May 21 19:15:31 <keesj> there is a real need for good proxys
May 21 19:15:57 <keesj> people don't want to go offline/online all day , they at least don't want to have that feeling
May 21 19:16:35 <trevarthan> I would love to use my n800 for mp3 playback, but a.) I'm not sure how long the battery would last and b.) there's no audible.com client, so my audio books won't play.
May 21 19:17:14 <trevarthan> If there was an audible.com client then I would be inseparable from my n800.
May 21 19:17:16 <keesj> enabling bt again + connect using gprs + ssh + screen -r  it just a little to much, I am almoost back from walking the dog when finished. that is why I love the radio!
May 21 19:18:09 <keesj> I need a english>portugees speech tool (and reversed)
May 21 19:18:13 <trevarthan> keesj: do you use some sort of cli IM client? Which one?
May 21 19:18:48 <trevarthan> keesj: I use whitestork as a dictionary. Not sure if the n800 has enough CPU + RAM for dictation.
May 21 19:19:07 <keesj> trevarthan: no I started with gaim , xchat , but at the end ssh + irssi + osso-xterm beats them all
May 21 19:19:29 <keesj> irssi is a cli irc client
May 21 19:20:03 <keesj> but like most here I don't run it on the device but on my home computer sorted inside a screen session
May 21 19:21:01 <trevarthan> irssi looks cool, but I need MSN messenger for work, and AOL messenger for friends. Pidgin folks just need to finish abstracting libpidgin and finish their cli client.
May 21 19:21:16 <zakx> trevarthan: have you looked into Bitlbee?
May 21 19:21:44 <keesj> https://garage.maemo.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=644 the new version of WhiteStork dictionary.
May 21 19:22:56 <keesj> WhiteStork - Multilingual Dictionary for maemo.org platform. did anybody tries that?
May 21 19:23:37 <keesj> it's not clear for what plaftorm it is
May 21 19:23:58 <trevarthan> I use it on my n800. not sure what you mean by "platform".
May 21 19:24:15 <keesj> it2007 v.s it2006
May 21 19:24:29 <trevarthan> zakx: wow. just what I've been looking for. How do you hook it into MSN and AOL and Yahoo messenger?
May 21 19:25:49 <zakx> trevarthan: there are msn extentions at http://www.bitlbee.be/andy/
May 21 19:26:14 <zakx> don't know about yahoo really, but you should be able to use AIM via the builtin ICQ client.
May 21 19:26:23 <zakx> as it's basicly the same protocol
May 21 19:27:38 <trevarthan> zakx: very cool. I'll check that out later today.
May 21 19:40:46 <unique311> keesj i feel you on that
May 21 19:40:54 <unique311> kinda getting bored with it also..
May 21 19:41:24 <unique311> i was on internettablettalk, responding to post...which sucks...i don't do forums....
May 21 19:41:27 <unique311> irc yes..
May 21 19:41:30 <unique311> forums no..
May 21 19:41:40 <unique311> and irc is dying...
May 21 19:42:50 <unique311> i do 3 other channels besides #maemo...with less people in all 3 of them than #maemo...and there's more activity in those 3 than maemo..
May 21 19:43:03 <unique311> not sure..200 people...
May 21 19:43:07 <unique311> what gives
May 21 19:43:42 <keesj> at the end it's not such a big world after all
May 21 19:43:52 <unique311> oh its not..
May 21 19:46:18 <keesj> off to play more with elive :P
May 21 19:46:28 <unique311> peace
May 21 19:50:09 <melmoth> Hmm. where can i find doc on how to use hildon file selector widget ?
May 21 19:50:38 <melmoth> all my bookmarks dating from the old web site are borked
May 21 20:04:13 * sp3000 grumbles
May 21 20:05:11 <sp3000> file a bug on maemo2midgard aboout broken urls? :)
May 21 20:07:07 * sp3000 slaps maemo.org
May 21 20:09:18 <sp3000> hah, http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:maemo.org/platform/docs/api/hildon-docs/fm-html/hildon-fm-HildonFileChooserDialog.html&strip=1
May 21 20:10:50 * sp3000 sobs
May 21 20:14:12 <melmoth> thanks..
May 21 20:14:15 <melmoth> i was using http://maemomm.garage.maemo.org/docs/tutorial/html/ch05s06.html :)
May 21 21:01:43 <maddler> hi all!
May 21 21:04:11 <florian> hi maddler
May 21 21:15:24 <trevarthan> Hello. Can someone from Nokia tell me what formats the maemo video player can stream please? I know it will do mpeg1. I'm looking for a definitive answer on any other formats. Thanks!
May 21 21:19:50 <Sulis> trevarthan: it likes avi
May 21 21:21:02 <trevarthan> Sulis: What kind of avi? Got an example I could stream?
May 21 21:21:25 <trevarthan> I say that because all the avi's I make don't seem to stream properly.
May 21 21:21:38 <trevarthan> If I could see an example of one that works, then I could go from there.
May 21 21:23:53 <trevarthan> alright. got an hour drive home. bbl.
May 21 21:24:47 <maddler> florian: heya dude, what's new?
May 21 21:57:48 <florian> maddler: showing gpe at LinuxTag next week but not much apart from this :)+#
May 21 22:07:58 <thej4ck> Hi all
May 21 22:09:28 <thej4ck> someone can spend 2 minutes helping setting up a building host for n770, i've readed and installed all that is in documentation but it still doesn't work
May 21 22:09:30 <thej4ck> ?
May 21 22:10:29 <thej4ck> i've got to build a statically linked snort executable for the n770
May 21 22:10:43 <thej4ck> but i've got some problem with the build enviroment
May 21 22:11:15 <thej4ck> someone can help, please?
May 21 22:16:25 <thej4ck> \info
May 21 22:18:27 <trevartha1> Hello. Can you tell me what formats the maemo video player can stream please? I know it will do mpeg1. I'm looking for a definitive answer on any other formats. Thanks!
May 21 22:25:10 <dizel> Hi guys! Can you give me direct link of N800 firmware please?
May 21 23:00:56 <Milhouse2> maemo.org having network problems again?
May 21 23:17:13 <Milhouse2> looks like maemo.org has gone down
May 21 23:30:19 <Milhouse2> maemo.org appears to be available again - yay
May 22 00:30:41 <trevartha1> Hey, does os2007 have 'ping'?
May 22 00:30:53 <Milhouse2> not as standard
May 22 00:33:07 <javamaniac> let me try
May 22 00:33:07 <javamaniac> trevartha1, nope, doesn't have ping
May 22 00:33:37 <trevartha1> I heard the first guy.
May 22 00:33:48 <Milhouse2> trevartha1 - have a look at https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=989
May 22 00:52:00 <trevartha1> Milhouse2: ok. I read that. So how do I get ping?
May 22 01:13:30 <Milhouse2> No idea; build your own busybox or download the source for ping from somewhere and build it yourself?
May 22 01:15:38 <Milhouse2> Google is your friend: http://www.makuchaku.info/blog/ping-pong-on-my-n800
May 22 01:20:15 <Milhouse2> untar that file to a temporary directory
May 22 01:20:16 <Milhouse2> cp bin/busybox /bin/busybox2
May 22 01:20:34 <Milhouse2> delete all the other crap from your temporary directory
May 22 01:20:42 <Milhouse2> then setup your symlinks for ping etc.
May 22 01:20:48 <Milhouse2> seems to work just fine
May 22 01:31:13 <Milhouse2> phil|work => phil langdale?
May 22 02:08:36 <anacarol> Is there someone that knows about the zero conf project?
May 22 02:12:11 <anacarol> please... can somebody help me?
May 22 02:23:14 <anacarol> hi
May 22 02:28:50 <megabyte405> anacarol: what do you need to know about it?
May 22 02:28:51 <megabyte405> Zeroconf isn't exactly a "project", more of a standard
May 22 02:31:20 <anacarol> http://www.indt.org.br/maemo/zeroconf/
May 22 02:35:32 <anacarol>  I've read about this standard but i thought it was a maemo project when i saw this site
May 22 02:37:08 <anacarol> do u know about crazy parking project?
May 22 02:39:19 <megabyte405> well then
May 22 02:39:23 <megabyte405> I guess INdT decided to name their implementation after the standard
May 22 02:39:25 <megabyte405> nope
May 22 02:47:50 <anacarol> thank u for the help
May 22 02:48:54 <anacarol> do u work on any project?
May 22 02:54:47 <philipl> Milhouse2: yes
May 22 02:55:08 <Milhouse2> Hello - your blog seems to be MIA
May 22 02:55:11 <Milhouse2> :(
May 22 02:56:36 <Milhouse2> philip: Getting a 404 for http://intr.overt.org/blog
May 22 02:56:40 <Milhouse2> has it moved?
May 22 02:59:15 <megabyte405> anacoral: Abiword - www.abisource.com
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