**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue May 29 02:59:57 2007
May 29 03:40:16 <pupnik> i see maemo-launcher frequently taking up 5% cpu in top
May 29 03:41:03 <pupnik> actually no, just occasionally - then bme occasionally at 1-5 %
May 29 03:41:43 <pupnik> ahh 'battery management entity' lol
May 29 04:25:32 <unique311> pupnik
May 29 04:25:35 <unique311> news
May 29 04:25:49 <unique311> http://feelslikeburning.com/2006/04/16/reading-ebooks-on-the-nokia-770-with-fbreader
May 29 04:26:12 <unique311> screen rotate for the 770 fbreader is implemented in the app...
May 29 04:26:20 <pupnik> ? yeah
May 29 04:26:25 <unique311> fbreader src
May 29 04:26:43 <pupnik> xomap server has no rotated mode
May 29 04:26:54 <unique311> and locate the code used....and try an implement it on the correct POSE src file
May 29 04:27:12 <unique311> xomap?
May 29 04:27:13 <unique311> server
May 29 04:27:51 <pupnik> just agreeing that the application has to rotate the display, and not the X server
May 29 04:27:58 <unique311> ok
May 29 04:28:11 <zuh> pupnik: Untrue: http://syslog.movial.fi/archives/7-xrandr-on-nokia-770.html
May 29 04:28:14 <unique311> so i should email the developer....
May 29 04:28:18 <pupnik> hrm
May 29 04:28:43 <pupnik> with a stock kernel: true
May 29 04:28:45 <zuh> But naturally, that's not available out-of-the-box (as usual...)
May 29 04:29:09 <unique311> double hmmmm
May 29 04:29:48 <unique311> http://lemody.blogspot.com/2005/11/xrandr-o-2.html
May 29 04:29:59 <unique311> doesn't that flip the screen
May 29 04:30:31 <zuh> > Got any code? ;-)
May 29 04:30:32 <zuh> heh :) eventually the feature will be there!
May 29 04:30:40 <zuh> Vaporware ;)
May 29 04:30:59 <unique311> i think the code is the title...
May 29 04:31:03 <unique311> not sure..
May 29 04:31:27 <pupnik> http://home.arcor.de/arnim.sauerbier/POSE_0_01_Nokia_770_rot_kbd.jpg
May 29 04:31:41 <pupnik> that's double size with as big a tap keyboard as will fit
May 29 04:32:47 <unique311> keyboard mapping might be difficult on that..
May 29 04:33:07 <pupnik> what do you mean?
May 29 04:33:08 <unique311> use the tungsten w with that mininal keyboard
May 29 04:33:26 <pupnik> larger buttons?
May 29 04:33:30 <unique311> do you have the skins folder available
May 29 04:33:41 <pupnik> yes
May 29 04:33:58 <unique311> open any file with the extension .skin
May 29 04:34:02 <unique311> in a notepad
May 29 04:34:13 <unique311> scroll all the way to the bottom....
May 29 04:34:28 <unique311> should also be a readme in the skins directory
May 29 04:34:40 <unique311> that explains how the mapping works...
May 29 04:34:54 <unique311> not sure about that keyboard..
May 29 04:36:51 <zuh> unique311: xrandr is just an extension to X, someone needs to write the part which tells the LCD chip to rotate. And I guess Nokia didn't see a need for it...
May 29 04:37:04 <unique311> might be able to pull it off...with ur mockup...download the tungstenW emu....
May 29 04:37:22 <unique311> yeah....nokia only saw it as an internet tablet...
May 29 04:37:27 <unique311> wrong
May 29 04:37:48 <unique311> sorry about that nokia devs....don't mind me....
May 29 04:38:39 <zuh> I guess even web browsing could benefit from the rotation
May 29 04:38:57 <unique311> not sure about that...
May 29 04:39:21 <pupnik> i can't find the tungsten skin.  Do you have a filename unique311 ?
May 29 04:39:30 <unique311> hold on
May 29 04:42:17 <unique311> on the other hand pupnik...
May 29 04:42:28 <unique311> os 3.0 for the tungsten...
May 29 04:43:19 <unique311> could go for the 4.2 os and hope the graffiti pad works...
May 29 04:45:40 <pupnik> no graffiti is too slow on the 770
May 29 04:49:06 <unique311> k
May 29 04:50:16 <unique311> zuh with this link the whole screen is screwed...
May 29 04:50:19 <unique311> http://syslog.movial.fi/archives/7-xrandr-on-nokia-770.html
May 29 04:50:31 <unique311> think  software route might be better...
May 29 04:52:20 <zuh> Depends what you want of course
May 29 04:52:37 <unique311> http://www.internettablettalk.com/2006/02/16/fbreader-072-rotates-text-180-270-degrees/
May 29 04:52:41 <zuh> And how well the sw copes with it (as you can see, the older stuff really didn't)
May 29 04:52:43 <unique311> a menu like so...
May 29 04:54:25 <zuh> Well as said, since there is no support for rotating the screen out-of-the-box, sw is the only way to go
May 29 04:54:41 <zuh> For "user" applications
May 29 04:56:32 * pupnik works on onscreen buttons for uqm
May 29 07:22:50 <fish_> re
May 29 07:47:21 <Free_maN> it's possiblel to inject with aireplay for n770 ?
May 29 07:47:36 <Free_maN> with patch ...
May 29 07:57:18 <fish_> Free_maN: well, at least not without a patch
May 29 07:59:17 <Free_maN> fish_, i have testing with aircrack-ng 0.9 on my network but it's not working
May 29 07:59:27 <fish_> yes, i tried it too
May 29 07:59:29 <Free_maN> with atack 1 and 0
May 29 08:00:12 <fish_> it looks like it injects something but actualy there seams to be nothing in the air
May 29 08:01:19 <Free_maN> fish_, yes for me it's similar
May 29 08:01:46 <fish_> but i'll guess it might be possible
May 29 08:02:06 <Free_maN> it's no working for inject but with the patch https://garage.maemo.org/projects/cx3110x/
May 29 08:03:45 <fish_> s garage down atm?
May 29 08:03:47 <fish_> +i
May 29 08:05:00 <dpb_> works for me
May 29 08:05:27 <Free_maN> dpb_,with patch ??
May 29 08:05:35 <Free_maN> version to aircrack ?
May 29 08:05:41 <dpb_> i mean garage
May 29 08:05:51 <dpb_> i have no idea what aircrack is.
May 29 08:06:06 <Free_maN> oki ;)
May 29 08:08:46 <fish_> Free_maN: which patch? the project is the whole driver..
May 29 08:11:02 <Free_maN> it's right fish_
May 29 08:13:29 <Free_maN> cx3110x
May 29 08:13:30 <Free_maN> (Nokia 770/800)		cx3110x	Seems to support injection (not confirmed)
May 29 08:13:43 <Free_maN> with http://aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=compatibility_drivers&DokuWiki=e509ebf18f206075690c0dc619290584
May 29 08:19:47 <fish_> Free_maN: yes, i read that also somewhere
May 29 08:29:12 <mk8> Hi to all ...
May 29 08:31:59 <pupnik> "new" WEP crack 12-15 times faster
May 29 08:32:45 <pupnik> i think in aircrack cvs
May 29 08:34:54 <fish_> do you talk about aircrack-ptw?
May 29 08:36:08 <fish_> pupnik: the time you need to crack a wep key is not the problem. the problem _was_ to collect enough data
May 29 08:36:28 <fish_> but with aircrack-ptw that isnt a problem anymore
May 29 08:36:45 <pupnik> yea
May 29 08:37:15 <fish_> but maybe they added the ptw attack in aircrack cvs
May 29 08:37:33 <pupnik> the ptw authors (from darmstadt) said this in an interview
May 29 08:38:32 <fish_> yes, i met them on the easterhegg. and eric also played with my n770 and aireplay, he doesn't get it running either
May 29 08:38:49 <pupnik> cool
May 29 08:38:54 <pupnik> well i mean cool / too bad
May 29 08:39:19 <fish_> but i compiled aircrack-ptw without problems for the n770
May 29 08:39:39 <fish_> but without airreplay it isnt really usefull
May 29 08:39:45 <pupnik> yes
May 29 08:40:19 <pupnik> at least kismet works well for finding open nets
May 29 08:40:23 <fish_> aircrack-ptw doesnt work well with passiv sniffing. you need to know parts of the sniffed packets. thats the case if you do arp re-injection but it doesnt work with random data
May 29 08:40:34 <pupnik> ah!
May 29 08:40:50 <pupnik> now i get it :)
May 29 08:41:03 <fish_> http://www.cdc.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/aircrack-ptw/ <- thats the aircrack-ptw homepage
May 29 08:42:14 <pupnik> n770 needs a driver guru :)
May 29 08:43:02 <unique311> k, my device name is missing...
May 29 08:43:08 <unique311> wtf
May 29 08:43:29 <unique311> i start terminal and it shows ~/
May 29 08:44:21 <fish_> well.. if thats your only problem ;)
May 29 08:44:53 <unique311> so how do i fix it
May 29 08:45:13 <pupnik> that's what i see normally
May 29 08:45:41 <fish_> my device doesnt reboot properly. it starts and before i get the nokia hands splash it reboots again. and that may times. some reboots later its comes up
May 29 08:45:48 <unique311> i use to see stan-Nokia-10 i thinker...
May 29 08:46:13 <fish_> unique311: what says 'hostname'
May 29 08:46:13 <fish_> ?
May 29 08:46:24 <fish_> and what echo $PS1
May 29 08:47:21 <unique311> it says nokia-n800-10
May 29 08:47:44 <guardian> maemo.org tutorial and dev howtos are broken for nearly one month :( https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1300
May 29 08:48:10 <AD-N770> good morning
May 29 08:48:23 <fish_> unique311: and what whos echo $PS1?
May 29 08:48:26 <unique311> echo $PS1 /w /$
May 29 08:48:37 <fish_> than its normal ;)
May 29 08:49:13 <pupnik> hi AD-N770, guardian
May 29 08:49:17 <unique311> why was i seeing the nokia-n800-10 before
May 29 08:49:28 <guardian> hi
May 29 08:49:30 <fish_> try export PS1="\u@\h \w " or something like that
May 29 08:50:04 <unique311> something like that...no thanks...lol
May 29 08:50:10 <fish_> or that: export PS1="\[\033[01;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[01;34m\] \w \$\[\033[00m\]"
May 29 08:50:17 <fish_> thats the colored gentoo prompt ;)
May 29 08:50:21 <unique311> hmmm
May 29 08:50:47 <oil> senores. how can I activate an script based on dbus-1 message "signal sender=:1.17 -> dest=(null destination) interface=com.nokia.icd; member=status_changed
May 29 08:50:48 <oil>  string "tupu"
May 29 08:50:48 <oil> string "WLAN_INFRA"
May 29 08:50:48 <oil> string "CONNECTED"
May 29 08:50:48 <oil> string ""
May 29 08:51:40 <fish_> unique311: or go and rtfm: like that http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-tip-prompt/
May 29 08:51:46 <oil> I tried to make an script to /usr/share/dbus-1/services/foo.service
May 29 08:51:54 <oil> [D-BUS Service]
May 29 08:51:55 <oil> Name=com.nokia.icd
May 29 08:51:55 <oil> Exec=/usr/local/bin/foo.sh
May 29 08:52:07 <unique311> thanks fish...
May 29 08:52:20 <oil> but even after a reboot the /usr/local/bin/foo.sh script is not executed
May 29 08:54:49 <pupnik> you can look at how acmonitor does it
May 29 08:57:28 <oil> pupnik: thanks. I'll try to investicate
May 29 08:58:19 <pupnik> oil, i don't know the right way - can't you just put something in /etc/rc*.d directory?
May 29 08:58:58 <oil> pupnik: I wish to act when the WLAN finds an pre-defined ap and connects to it
May 29 08:59:02 <pupnik> oh based on a dbus-message
May 29 08:59:29 <oil> yes. I guess that would be the best way to do it?
May 29 09:01:25 * pupnik doesn't know
May 29 09:40:09 <pupnik> favorite scaler of these 4?  http://pupnik.de/ScalersExult.png
May 29 09:45:57 <Fatal> pupnik: imho, bottom right
May 29 09:46:42 <unique311> top right
May 29 09:46:43 <Fatal> pupnik: top right don't seem to be 2x, but 2x+something else
May 29 09:46:59 <pupnik> it's bilinear filtered
May 29 09:47:05 <Fatal> s/top right/top left/
May 29 09:47:06 <pupnik> hmm, interesting.
May 29 09:47:06 <infobot> Fatal meant: pupnik: top left don't seem to be 2x, but 2x+something else
May 29 09:47:21 <pupnik> haha @ infobot
May 29 09:48:26 <pupnik> the scaling algorithm is called "scale2x" and does smart interpolation ilke 2xsai
May 29 09:48:49 <pupnik> unique311: top right surprises me ... but it would be fastest
May 29 09:49:05 <Fatal> I've always been against interpolation when avoidable
May 29 09:49:10 <gla55_> top right or bottom left
May 29 09:50:22 <pupnik> very interesting.  i'll definitely look into the Xsp then.  thanks for the feedback!
May 29 09:50:43 <pupnik> bottom left very slow
May 29 09:52:09 <gla55_> top right then
May 29 09:52:52 <gla55_> how far from "ready"?
May 29 09:53:02 <pupnik> it's playable now
May 29 09:53:12 <gla55_> nice, nice
May 29 09:53:38 <pupnik> http://pupnik.de/exult770.html
May 29 09:54:52 <gla55_> i should have loaded that last week..
May 29 09:55:07 <gla55_> could have used a timekiller :)
May 29 09:55:23 <pupnik> It's pretty good.  Needs a bluetooth keyboard during game start.
May 29 09:55:37 <pupnik> For savegames, i insert the current date+time
May 29 09:56:00 <pupnik> oh, and the bad guy in the game is called 'The Guardian' ;)
May 29 09:56:08 <gla55_> i know
May 29 09:56:12 <gla55_> :)
May 29 09:56:17 <guardian> ?
May 29 09:56:25 <guardian> am i the bad guy ?
May 29 09:56:25 <gla55_> i bought it back in the day with weekly allowance :)
May 29 09:56:27 <gla55_> yeah
May 29 09:56:31 <gla55_> a red faced meanie
May 29 09:57:41 <pupnik> http://www.owo.com/archive/ftp/graphics/ultima7/u7grdn4.gif
May 29 10:06:01 * pupnik hates code with too many layers 
May 29 10:06:27 * pupnik <- confused puppy
May 29 10:21:40 <yellowbug> hello everybody
May 29 10:21:46 <pupnik> moo
May 29 10:23:14 <yellowbug> hello pupnik, apt-get cann't resolv hostname while wget is ok, any suggestion?
May 29 10:23:52 <yellowbug> bora sdk with scratchbox
May 29 10:28:53 <yellowbug> is this a stupid question?
May 29 10:32:04 <sp3000> yellowbug: giyf
May 29 10:32:22 <sp3000> e.g. http://www.mail-archive.com/scratchbox-users@lists.scratchbox.org/msg00539.html
May 29 10:32:43 <sp3000> is probably a start
May 29 10:33:58 <yellowbug> thank u ~~~~
May 29 10:38:47 <Gathaja> oh, exellent. I had that problem too. Seems I was editing the wrong file x)
May 29 10:41:10 <unique311> won't be able to use the tungsten w or any skin with a keyboard....unless you modify the skin.cpp src file also pupnik...
May 29 10:52:03 <pupnik> no skin with keyboard?  pupnik is sad.
May 29 10:52:36 <pupnik> unique311: not even treo_270 ?
May 29 10:53:05 <unique311> skins.cpp
May 29 10:53:12 <unique311> heavy modifying..
May 29 10:53:40 <unique311> right now only have code for 9 buttons..
May 29 10:53:45 <unique311> if i counted right..
May 29 10:54:12 * pupnik is trying to understand vcontrol.c in uqm
May 29 10:55:26 <unique311> sorry for the flood..
May 29 12:03:32 <tigert> http://lolcode.com/
May 29 12:05:33 <tigert> man
May 29 12:06:06 <Mithrandir> tigert: it clearly needs hildon bindings
May 29 12:06:12 <tigert> yeah
May 29 12:07:30 <pyhimys> Does the connection manager log to somewhere?
May 29 12:08:20 <pyhimys> I can't seem to connect to an access point
May 29 12:08:57 <tigert> perhaps dbus-monitor?
May 29 12:09:05 <pyhimys> it uses wpa and I'm quite sure that I entered the preshared secret correctly
May 29 12:13:29 <tigert> and you are close enough?
May 29 12:13:32 <tigert> to the ap?
May 29 12:24:20 <pyhimys> tigert: maybe too close
May 29 12:25:11 <tigert> pyhimys: hmm
May 29 12:25:38 <tigert> I dont think the device logs much trying to conserve storage space
May 29 12:25:51 <pyhimys> I managed to get connection while I was farther away
May 29 12:26:54 <tigert> oh
May 29 12:26:55 <tigert> okay
May 29 12:26:59 <tigert> weird
May 29 12:27:56 <pyhimys> Yeah, and when I got closer it disconnected again?
May 29 12:28:14 <pyhimys> There's bad feng shui on my desk
May 29 12:29:50 <tigert> weird :)
May 29 12:30:25 <tigert> can be that the signal is too strong or such and something in the driver gets confused? :)
May 29 12:36:19 <pupnik> i'm tipping on bad feng shui
May 29 12:40:31 <Free_maN> make -C /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.16 SUBDIRS=/targets/test-nokia/usr/src/cx3110x-1.2/src modules
May 29 12:40:31 <Free_maN> make[2]: Entering directory `/targets/test-nokia/usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.16'
May 29 12:40:31 <Free_maN> Makefile:480: .config: No such file or directory
May 29 12:40:31 <Free_maN>   WARNING: Symbol version dump /targets/test-nokia/usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.16/Module.symvers
May 29 12:40:31 <Free_maN>            is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions.
May 29 12:40:33 <Free_maN>   Building modules, stage 2.
May 29 12:40:35 <Free_maN> make[3]: *** No rule to make target `.config'.  Stop.
May 29 12:40:47 <Free_maN> i have error for compil cx3110
May 29 12:41:04 <Free_maN> where is .config for n770
May 29 12:58:01 <zuh> I think 'make n770_defconfig' in the kernel src dir should work
May 29 15:08:49 <rhsanborn> Does anyone know a secret trick to remove more than one email at a time from the email app? I have roughly 700 emails in there and each one takes at least 4 seconds to delete...
May 29 15:09:49 <defor^work> hah
May 29 15:10:15 <mgedmin> I bet reflashing would remove all 700 emails
May 29 15:10:18 <rhsanborn> I don't like that response...
May 29 15:10:21 <rhsanborn> :P
May 29 15:10:33 <rhsanborn> I'd better turn off the email app...
May 29 15:10:35 <defor^work> no idea.. i just mirror my main mailbox which i clean at home, so it updates the imap and its all empty on the n
May 29 15:10:41 <zyxulnaga> reflashing will make you lose everything
May 29 15:10:50 <defor^work> you can clear user data
May 29 15:10:50 <rhsanborn> I know zyxulnaga
May 29 15:10:58 <zyxulnaga> jokin
May 29 15:11:01 <defor^work> lemme see if there's a way to kill multiple emails tho
May 29 15:11:09 <defor^work> im still looking for a way to make rules
May 29 15:11:27 <rhsanborn> It would have to be a hack defor, I'm pretty sure there isnt  a proper way to do it
May 29 15:11:28 <defor^work> unless i missed it
May 29 15:11:33 <defor^work> dang
May 29 15:11:42 <rhsanborn> Bah, I wish I'd ported pine...
May 29 15:11:50 <defor^work> next one.. disable screen dimming/off
May 29 15:11:56 <defor^work> i think pine is ported
May 29 15:12:53 <rhsanborn> It wouldn't take mch to port it
May 29 15:14:57 <defor^work> im still trying to find out what i need to develop... and where things like a terminal shell are stored
May 29 15:15:08 <defor^work> unless i have to install xterm
May 29 15:15:21 <defor^work> as i see it's been ported
May 29 15:17:04 <rhsanborn> defor^work, any idea where you saw pine? It's mentioned on maemo but no install
May 29 15:17:50 <defor^work> lemme see...
May 29 15:18:29 <defor^work> and i keep running out of memory on occasion, does allocating virtual memory actually add it to the system heap?
May 29 15:21:24 <defor^work> dang.. cant seem re rearrange collumns in email either
May 29 15:22:31 <rhsanborn> email is a beta app at best
May 29 15:23:20 <defor^work> ya
May 29 15:24:08 <rhsanborn> deleting the email accounts successfully removed all the messages from the app
May 29 15:24:10 <defor^work> stacks of ui issues
May 29 15:24:15 <defor^work> aah
May 29 15:24:20 <defor^work> i gues sthat's a start
May 29 15:25:15 <rhsanborn> I'm all but certain that porting pine will be as simple as downloading the source and clciking compile. It runs within the shell which will handle the sizing issues so no UI worries, etc.
May 29 15:26:11 <rhsanborn> *crosses fingers*
May 29 15:29:31 <defor^work> so how do you get to shell... xterm?
May 29 15:30:16 <rhsanborn> yes
May 29 15:30:21 <defor^work> ok...
May 29 15:30:28 <defor^work> i'll go install
May 29 15:30:36 <defor^work> thanks...
May 29 15:43:09 <rhsanborn> alright, I've managed to login as root in ssh, anyone know how to add the ability to su to sudo?
May 29 15:53:57 <ian_brasil_> is there some problem with the maemo repositories today?
May 29 15:54:07 <koen> only today?
May 29 15:54:39 <ian_brasil_> i was being polite ;)
May 29 15:56:32 <ian_brasil_> maybe an e-mail to the dev list when the repositories are off line might help
May 29 15:59:06 <keesj> it has been a quite day here two
May 29 16:20:40 <defor^work> anyone here use flickr and have uploading issues from the n?
May 29 16:27:06 <defor^work> nm.. apparrently upload doesnt properly push images from bluetooth file browsing sessions
May 29 18:09:43 <jack03> can someone give me some help with sound on a 770? I am trying to get festival (flite) to play a sound. its trying to use /dev/dsp but no device is their :)
May 29 18:13:25 <`0660> i think you need to use gstreamer
May 29 18:14:20 <jack03> ok
May 29 18:17:50 <zuh> Silja03
May 29 18:17:54 <zuh> graah
May 29 18:17:59 <zuh> There goes that passwd
May 29 18:18:20 <zuh> Well, it was only for my N800 anyway...
May 29 18:19:14 <gla55_> so you say
May 29 18:20:25 <zuh> My new one is asdkAWEplonk, in case you were wondering
May 29 18:20:29 <zuh> doh
May 29 18:20:34 <zuh> ;)
May 29 18:20:54 <`0660> at least it's better than the first one :)
May 29 18:22:13 <zuh> Hmm, I should've played that like trying to query some chick. I might have gotten away with that right?
May 29 18:23:44 <keesj> jack03: geting flite to work required some patches (at one point )
May 29 18:24:15 <`0660> you would have fooled me at least :)
May 29 18:25:16 <`0660> though silja03 sounds like a bit too young for a chick
May 29 18:25:51 <keesj> https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/packages/flite.xml?root=mud-builder&view=log
May 29 18:26:39 <zuh> `0660: Yeah, it might have ended up in a raid and confiscation of my computer... So probably better to just forget that one ;)
May 29 18:27:18 <`0660> yeah :)
May 29 18:27:25 <`0660> haha
May 29 18:27:53 <`0660> no i have no idea what really happened :)
May 29 18:28:08 <jack03> keesj, do you have a link for this? thanks
May 29 18:28:33 <jack03> sorry i see it
May 29 18:29:01 <`0660> maybe you did save the situation by saying that it was your password :)
May 29 18:32:58 <zuh> Let's not get carried away now :)
May 29 18:34:21 <`0660> :)
May 29 19:06:18 <sp3000> she said she was five, I swear
May 29 22:43:08 <edt> how much of an improvement is the n800 over the n770?
May 29 22:44:20 <gomia1> edt, quite a bit, IMO. More RAM, more internal flash, more processor power to start with.
May 29 22:45:10 <gomia1> Add the stereo, less weight, ability to hold up to two SD cards (cheaper than 770's MemoryStick)
May 29 22:45:15 <gomia1> and a webcam.
May 29 22:45:30 <gomia1> I miss the hard-shell cover, though
May 29 22:46:53 <edt> has flash perf been improved?
May 29 22:47:10 <gomiam> it has improved a bit, on OS2007
May 29 22:47:30 <gomiam> now you can watch Flash video, even though the video is still a bit jerky at times.
May 29 22:47:38 <edt> one comment I have read is that the cpu to video pipe in the n800 is lacking vs the n770
May 29 22:48:39 <gomiam> mmm... might be. I'm not so knowledgeable about it. I think I read of people complaining that OS2007 doesn't take advantage of the floating-point unit in N800
May 29 22:49:05 <gomiam> which might have been useful to get better Flash video support
May 29 22:49:35 <edt> this was something about the chipset used on the n800 with the new processor lacks bandwidth to the lcd display
May 29 22:49:53 <gomiam> might be.
May 29 22:50:29 <edt> have you noticed an difference in video with the n800 (eg are some things slower than on the 770)?
May 29 22:51:07 <gomiam> no. I didn't have a N770 for long, though, so I can't really be a reliable source of comparison :-)
May 29 22:52:16 <edt> gomiam it might well be true but not at all important...
May 29 23:22:26 * pupnik_ falls over laughing at zuh  :)
May 29 23:22:30 <pupnik_> i've done that too
May 29 23:23:19 <pupnik> i should register nicknames that are common typos of 'nickserv'
May 29 23:27:09 * pupnik is so confused by uqm input handling 
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