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Jun 02 07:51:37 <Azabua> can someone plz send me a decent url for a repositoy in mapper?
Jun 02 07:53:53 <Azabua> http://mt.google.com/mt?n=404&v=ap.6&x=%d&y=%d&zoom=%d .... Gives error
Jun 02 10:14:50 <guardian> morning
Jun 02 10:27:11 <Jaffa> Morning, all
Jun 02 11:14:25 <edistar_> how can I tell mediastreamer the UPnP server IP?
Jun 02 11:15:16 <edistar_> cause my ip is *.2.2 and server is *.1.197
Jun 02 11:15:29 <edistar_> but they have access
Jun 02 11:21:12 <pulsar> edistar_: you usualy do not do that. the upnp servers use broadcasting to announce their availablity
Jun 02 11:21:20 <keesj> Hi
Jun 02 11:21:53 <pulsar> so if it does not show up on your nokia device you should check your netmasks and routes (if you are on linux, you probably need to add a broadcast route)
Jun 02 11:22:10 <keesj> pulsar: that could still work if the netmaks is 255.255.0.0 or similar
Jun 02 11:22:27 <pulsar> yeah, exactly. but not if its /24 only
Jun 02 11:23:43 <keesj> it' is possible to route mcast but I guess it's not the kind of things one wants to do :P
Jun 02 11:25:15 <edistar_> thx
Jun 02 11:26:03 <edistar_> what exactly is a broadcast route and do I need to set t in my router or on the server?
Jun 02 11:26:19 <pulsar> hehe... well, its not that easy.
Jun 02 11:26:26 <pulsar> how are the both subnets separated?
Jun 02 11:26:44 <pulsar> just a hub or do you have some routing between the subnets?
Jun 02 11:27:42 <edistar_> routing, I connected my wifi router to the hub
Jun 02 11:28:11 <edistar_> and as it can't act as an AP without crashing it routes
Jun 02 11:28:58 <keesj> edistar_: so perhaps it's not even routed but maskeraded two time?
Jun 02 11:29:33 <keesj> anyway I guess it's not really a question for this channel :p
Jun 02 11:29:34 <pulsar> masqueraded btw :) double nat sucks, but i dont think he has set up it this way.
Jun 02 11:29:40 <pulsar> yeah :)
Jun 02 11:29:40 * edistar_ is not very knowledgeable :/
Jun 02 11:30:01 <edistar_> sry then
Jun 02 11:30:11 <pulsar> one more hint
Jun 02 11:30:24 <edistar_> just thought I could tell mediastreamer the ip;)
Jun 02 11:30:34 <pulsar> if the upnp server is running on linux, check your routes if the multicast network is set up
Jun 02 11:30:40 <pulsar> route add -net 239.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 eth1
Jun 02 11:30:48 <pulsar> would enable broadcast on eth1
Jun 02 11:30:49 <edistar_> ok
Jun 02 11:30:51 <keesj> plug the pnp server to your wifi router
Jun 02 11:31:21 <pulsar> ifconfig eth1 allmulti
Jun 02 11:31:25 <pulsar> wont hurt afterwards
Jun 02 11:31:47 <pulsar> besides, i had very bad experience with upnp and the n800
Jun 02 11:32:17 <edistar_> I have the 770
Jun 02 11:32:24 <pulsar> same issues i presume.
Jun 02 11:32:27 <edistar_> thanks!
Jun 02 11:32:31 <edistar_> cu soon
Jun 02 11:32:38 <pulsar> browsing the media using the built in mediaplayer or filebrowser is painfully slow
Jun 02 11:32:39 <keesj> pulsar: what kind of problems?
Jun 02 11:32:53 <pulsar> slow like hell
Jun 02 11:33:07 <pulsar> my music collection is rather big (about 40 gigs)
Jun 02 11:33:07 <keesj> hmm that works ok for me , it's more the streaming that is crappy
Jun 02 11:33:18 <pulsar> yeah, plenty of buffering time
Jun 02 11:33:46 <pulsar> i presume its gStreamer / vfs fault
Jun 02 11:33:57 <keesj> but even , all the players I have tried (canola,mediastreamer kikkali) all use the same stuff
Jun 02 11:34:03 <pulsar> gStreamer seems to suck pretty bad on the n800 when its about network streams.
Jun 02 11:34:15 <pulsar> yep
Jun 02 11:34:42 <pulsar> i wonder if there is bass or fmod available for armel / esd
Jun 02 11:34:57 <pulsar> imho way better backend for music stuff
Jun 02 11:35:00 <keesj> and non of them really gave me a hint on wha't wrong , canola is the most frustating with a message "ERROR"
Jun 02 11:35:11 <pulsar> hehe, yeah, i hate it too.
Jun 02 11:35:24 <keesj> pulsar: I must say I have only used gmediastreamer and that is not the recommended one
Jun 02 11:35:53 <pulsar> i will have a look once i am finished with my current project
Jun 02 11:36:30 <pulsar> http://turrican.renoise.com/pulsar/pics/feedblender.png
Jun 02 11:36:59 <pulsar> kinda education project, works quite well but might use too many resources.
Jun 02 11:37:29 <pulsar> i disliked gPodder, but my mono version has similar memory-hog issues...
Jun 02 11:37:35 <pulsar> although it was expected
Jun 02 11:43:13 <keesj> I still don't know much about pods
Jun 02 11:43:27 <pulsar> i'm an addict :)
Jun 02 11:46:47 <keesj> the current maemo.org has so many layout problems it' just not funny
Jun 02 11:47:32 <pulsar> yeah, the maemo-planet links still not clickable?
Jun 02 11:47:33 <pulsar> :D
Jun 02 11:51:01 * trevarthan sighs
Jun 02 11:51:12 <pulsar> whazzzup?
Jun 02 11:51:42 <trevarthan> canola isn't reading my id3 tags properly for some albums.
Jun 02 11:51:42 <pulsar> btw, any german coders here?
Jun 02 11:51:53 <pulsar> trevarthan: perhaps v1/v2 id3 tags issues?
Jun 02 11:52:17 <pulsar> use godfather to masstag your collection, i simply love that tool
Jun 02 11:52:38 <pulsar> http://users.forthnet.gr/the/jtclipper/
Jun 02 14:11:26 <tweg> hello, does anyone know how to play .m4a files on the N800 using gst-launch?
Jun 02 14:16:30 <tweg> (I can get it to work for .aac files using dspaacsink, but this doesn't seem to work for m4a files)
Jun 02 15:46:15 <bedboi> hi there
Jun 02 16:44:51 <|tbb|> hello all, is there a subversionclient available for bora?
Jun 03 01:05:18 <N800> ??
Jun 03 01:05:21 <N800> anybody home
Jun 03 01:12:07 <Sulis> ...nope
Jun 03 01:12:17 <N800> lol
Jun 03 01:12:20 <N800> ok
Jun 03 01:12:25 <N800> I'll take that..
Jun 03 01:12:28 <Sulis> hehe
Jun 03 01:13:09 <Sulis> N800 is perhaps not the best nick for a channel where N800 will be said a lot...
Jun 03 01:13:16 <N800> I want to install another distro on the N800...think nokia would like that at all....
Jun 03 01:13:20 <N800> I know..
Jun 03 01:13:28 <N800> i'm unique311
Jun 03 01:13:34 <N800> but N800 is fun..
Jun 03 01:13:44 <N800> see alot of red lines in xchat
Jun 03 01:13:55 <Sulis> hehe, thought you might
Jun 03 01:15:13 <Sulis> if you want to put another distro on your n800 then go ahead and do it...i don't speak for nokia in any way whatsoever...but i can't see that they'd have a problem with that
Jun 03 01:16:11 <N800> its that simple
Jun 03 01:16:26 <N800> the dudes at #linux are talking about reflashing it..
Jun 03 01:16:31 <N800> not sure thats all it takes..
Jun 03 01:16:59 <N800> every device out there that don't run linux..eventually run linux...
Jun 03 01:18:38 <Sulis> well that would be all that it'd take to put a new distro on it
Jun 03 01:20:27 <Sulis> do you have anything in mind, are you going for your own custom distro?
Jun 03 01:23:21 <N800> Actually just a thought
Jun 03 01:23:27 <N800> not planning on doing this..
Jun 03 01:23:45 <N800> i did try the openrox
Jun 03 01:24:38 <N800> guess having a choice of window managers would be nice...without messing with the OS
Jun 03 01:27:09 <Sulis> hmm, what would you put on it?
Jun 03 01:30:44 <N800> something light...xfce would be nice...
Jun 03 01:38:47 <Sulis> hmm, that would require that you have some way to fake a right and middle click
Jun 03 01:59:39 <neostrider> hey folks
Jun 03 01:59:59 <neostrider> anyone knows how to turn off that annoying noise the rocker provokes when pressed?
Jun 03 02:00:23 <Sulis> there's a rocker?
Jun 03 02:00:38 <neostrider> you know, the DPAD
Jun 03 02:02:18 <Sulis> isn't that noise the same as the noise you get when you click on something?
Jun 03 02:04:12 <maba> it's two different sounds, and they can both be turned off in sound preferences
Jun 03 02:05:35 <Sulis> i've never actually noticed a sound....when i'm pressing the dpad
Jun 03 02:06:03 <neostrider> actually, I want to turn it off from my SDL application
Jun 03 02:06:14 <neostrider> when you actually play a action game, it is annoying!
Jun 03 02:06:34 <maba> now that's a completely different matter :)
Jun 03 02:06:51 <maba> anyway, time to sleep, g'night
Jun 03 02:08:01 <neostrider> for a First Person shooter, its first need
Jun 03 02:35:05 <N800> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mittuhu7XbA&mode=related&search=
Jun 03 02:35:10 <N800> 700 dollars
Jun 03 02:50:40 <cesman> doesn't run Linux OTB...
Jun 03 02:50:46 <cesman> whats the point? ;)
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