**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jun 16 02:59:56 2007 Jun 16 03:38:26 hey Jun 16 03:39:07 i am on my new n800. this is awesome Jun 16 06:43:51 hi guys Jun 16 06:43:58 I'm having a bit of trouble with my N800 Jun 16 06:44:11 for some reason it's stuck at the Nokia screen, blinks and then shows the Nokia screen again Jun 16 06:44:14 and it won't turn off. Jun 16 06:44:52 I cna't seem to find instructions on how to remove the battery Jun 16 06:45:04 any body have a link to some instructions? Jun 16 08:07:05 sri: And if it gets stuck in a reboot loop: Jun 16 08:07:05 ./flasher --set-rd-flags=no-lifeguard-reset Jun 16 08:07:05 ./flasher --clear-rd-flags=no-lifeguard-reset --disable-rd-mode Jun 16 08:09:17 between those two commands you may need to boot up and uninstall something Jun 16 08:09:29 doing them one after the other presumes that rd mode is the problem Jun 16 08:10:48 anyway, google "no-lifeguard-reset" for more about it Jun 16 08:18:23 thanks, bmidgley Jun 16 10:36:02 I downloaded the vm image ubuntu/scratchbox and its packed in lots of 7z.o%% pakets... how do I unpack them? Jun 16 11:49:20 Aloha! Jun 16 13:22:26 good morning. Jun 16 14:09:31 Hello Jun 16 14:11:37 I'm having trouble using pygtk in scratchbox. I don't seem to have the modules installed - does anybody know the correct way of getting it installed? Jun 16 15:03:05 Snig178: I think it is used quite a lot there sould be some documentation on the garage or maemo.org Jun 16 15:03:24 I just have a fresh install here so I can not really help Jun 16 15:48:30 keesj: Thanks. I've followed the tutorial on maemo.org, but I'll have a look around the garage as well. Jun 16 15:49:04 Hey, what's a good database to use on flash cards/mmc? Would sqlite be OK? Jun 16 15:49:43 I want to make a home applet for ukmp like canola's for scanning the filesystem. I need a DB for that. Jun 16 15:52:30 well, I'm just gonna use sqlite. If anyone has any different recommendations, let me know. Jun 16 15:53:38 Snig178, install python2.5-runtime Jun 16 16:09:26 melmoth: I don't have that in my package list. Jun 16 16:21:59 hello, i am gtk+ user who just jumped to maemo, can i port my gtk/gnome app to maemo or do i rewrite it from the scratch Jun 16 16:23:29 The GTK bits will port just fine. Jun 16 16:23:35 The Gnome bits you will have to rewrite. Jun 16 16:25:31 hi Jun 16 16:25:55 one question Jun 16 16:26:31 how installin applications in the nokia n800 ? Jun 16 16:26:42 sorry my english is bad :( Jun 16 16:29:47 Snig178, deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras bora free non-free Jun 16 16:31:55 speak spanish ? Jun 16 16:32:36 Blacksitox, you can either use the application manager, or use apt-get from a terminal Jun 16 16:32:38 derf: i follow this one http://maemo.org/development/documentation/tutorials/Maemo_tutorial_bora.html#integration, and find it s quite difficult to integrate that way, is there any tool or script to do so Jun 16 16:33:01 vnese: No. Jun 16 16:34:23 melmoth, whats the firt step for installation applications maemo in n800 ? Jun 16 16:34:25 derf: any idea, please Jun 16 16:34:58 Blacksitox, wich application do you want to install ? The easiest way is to use the 'application manager' program Jun 16 16:35:25 melmoth: Thanks Jun 16 16:40:23 melmoth, I do not have xterm, I arrive myself yesterday recian, as I can install xterm firstly? Or that is what I must do before everything Jun 16 16:40:42 :\ Jun 16 16:42:32 Don't panic ! Jun 16 16:43:13 it will take some time to get use to a new gizmo, that s usual :) Jun 16 16:45:19 Blacksitox, http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/03/18/installing-applications-the-applications-manager/ Jun 16 16:45:29 melmoth, but I want to use applications of maemo, and not like installing them in my n800! Jun 16 16:45:39 melmoth, thanks, Jun 16 16:45:50 * Blacksitox reading xD Jun 16 16:46:03 what do you mean with 'use application of maemo' ? Jun 16 16:46:20 like installing them in the scratchbox environment ? Jun 16 16:46:26 use apt-get Jun 16 16:47:29 melmoth, but I do not have xterm, where I execute apt-get? Jun 16 16:47:50 i dont understand you Blacksitox , what are you trying to do ? Jun 16 16:48:41 melmoth, I want to install xterm Jun 16 16:48:54 in your n800 ? Jun 16 16:49:38 http://maemo-hackers.org/wiki/OssoXterm Jun 16 16:50:29 I rarely use xterm. I just installed sshd and log in as root over wlan.. Jun 16 16:52:53 melmoth, thanks :) Jun 16 18:11:36 yeah, installed xterm in n800 Jun 16 18:11:50 how installing aircrack in n800 ? Jun 16 18:28:17 I don't know anything about the issue, but google found e.g. this: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5838 Jun 16 18:50:37 for the n800's successor, nokia needs to add a 3d gpu. that would allow for some sweet ui's. a fingerprint scanner would be nice too, as would a cell phone onboard, but i think 3d would be the biggest bang for buck. Jun 16 18:52:12 trevarthan: the n800 already has a 3d gpu Jun 16 18:52:44 i don't care about cell phone, becauase i'd rather have the two separate Jun 16 18:52:49 mostly for battery life Jun 16 18:53:33 the n800 has 3d capable video? Jun 16 18:53:50 feig: Yes, but no drivers for it... Jun 16 18:54:00 oh Jun 16 18:54:06 fair enough Jun 16 18:54:58 It's not fair! :) Jun 16 18:55:22 no, but it explains why i read so much about video playback issues on the dev mailing lists Jun 16 18:55:22 * zuh wants to do OpenGL ES on N800... Jun 16 18:55:29 ... i do too Jun 16 18:56:21 but, i think that the n800 successor will have some pretty steep competition with the next gen umpc's and mids, as Midinux is looking really nice, and ubuntu's mobile distro is on it's way too Jun 16 18:56:31 they will both support opengl Jun 16 18:56:53 and intel is backing them both, so 3d will be enabled Jun 16 18:58:37 any idea of how capable the n800's video hardware is? Jun 16 18:59:10 UMPC:s have a sore point in the pricing though... Then again, I wouldn't have bought the N800 for the real price either. I'd need a very good reason for buying something for 400€ and N800 offers basically none for me Jun 16 18:59:35 ... that's the other thing, the next gen mid's will be around the $500 pricepoint Jun 16 19:01:28 feig: "how cabable" is too broad question :) but the mailing list has threads on some benchmarking Jun 16 19:02:32 But basically only hardware-accelerated operation available is scaling and that's fullscreen-only IIRC Jun 16 19:02:44 oh Jun 16 19:04:39 i'd buy a $500 tablet. but it would need a lot more than the n800 and have to run linux apps really well. i like the n800 formfactor. Jun 16 19:05:05 http://www.umpcportal.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=674 Jun 16 19:05:14 the n800 does a lot for me. Jun 16 19:05:33 that's one of the prototypes, i've been following these things a lot on the tech blogs Jun 16 19:05:41 they look really promising Jun 16 19:06:38 but i think they're about 6 months to a year out Jun 16 19:07:21 i do wish it had a phone though. i'm starting to feel like a borg carrying my n800 in one pocket, my phone on my hip, my credit cards in my other pocket, and my motorola s9 around my neck/head. Jun 16 19:07:55 i don't want to give up any functionality, so consolidation would be nice. Jun 16 19:08:09 true, but that's why i got a small crap phone Jun 16 19:08:26 yeah! aircrack installed! Jun 16 19:08:39 how do you like the s9's? i've been thinking about picking some up, i have the larger ht820's Jun 16 19:08:58 mine is small too. motorola v710, but not small enough. Jun 16 19:09:48 hah, yea, i'd really like to see wimax all over, and integrated into a device, so i could ditch the phone alltogether Jun 16 19:10:20 s9 is ok. skips a lot. not sure if that is bluez's fault or the s9. worst is that it has **no** bass. that sucks bad. Jun 16 19:10:35 * cesman_away is back. Jun 16 19:10:50 probably bluez, i've been playing with the source for that Jun 16 19:10:57 it's an issue right now Jun 16 19:11:01 no bass? Jun 16 19:11:06 oh, that stinks Jun 16 19:11:21 that what i really liked about the ht820's over the crappy ipod buds Jun 16 19:11:56 nothing to catch on my seatbelt. that's nice. makes looking up difficult though. radio jabs me in the neck. Jun 16 19:12:44 oh, huh, yea, seems like they'd be more comfortable around the ears though, as the 820's are not Jun 16 19:13:15 overall, i love the idea of the s9. and i like the freedom, but i feel like the implementation could be better. Jun 16 19:13:39 ok, i feel better now about waiting till the next gen comes out Jun 16 19:13:41 =) Jun 16 19:14:10 ear comfort is ok at best. radio puts a lot of weight on the ears, which can be annoying. Jun 16 19:14:47 yea, but i don't think they even considered that when they designed mine Jun 16 19:15:36 yeah. i think it's only going to get better with time. s9 just isn't quite there yet. if they had decent bass then i would overlook all the shortcomings, but they don't. Jun 16 19:16:04 right Jun 16 19:16:21 so, how much trouble was it to get bluetooth-alsa going on your n800? Jun 16 19:17:51 oh, it's damn hard to pair with multiple devices too. i got it working once, but haven't had any luck since the battery went dead a day or two later. wants to pair with just my phone or the n800 now. have to turn phone off to use n800. Jun 16 19:18:23 that's funny Jun 16 19:18:44 i have issues pairing to my phone if the headphones are enabled on my phone Jun 16 19:19:24 alsa is easy. i made a howto for you: http://www.guardiani.us/index.php/N800_custom_packages#Bluetooth_ALSA Jun 16 19:19:33 so, i just restart the bluetooth radio on the phone, so it's not paired with the headphones, then connect to the nokia Jun 16 19:19:40 cool Jun 16 19:20:26 #join #cl-gardeners Jun 16 19:20:53 * Yamazaki-kun shoots keyboard Jun 16 19:21:04 i just use mplayer right now. not convenient. i plan to add a2dp support to ukmp once i get somw housekeeping done in ukmp first. Jun 16 19:21:37 yea, that's cool, i don't mind mplayer, did you map the buttons for avrcp too? Jun 16 19:23:00 well, volume works out of the box. i don't know how a2dpd is intended to be used in the context of pause, ff, rew. so i haven't tried yet. Jun 16 19:23:23 i plan to ask around on the bluez list when i'm ready. Jun 16 19:23:41 oh, well, it's a separate profile, called avrcp, put i think it's included in the a2dpd Jun 16 19:24:07 i don't know how it works exactly, but it shouldn't be that difficult to tell mplayer to do that stuff Jun 16 19:25:14 a2dpd seems buggy too. if you restart mplayer without restarting a2dpd then you get cpu starvation from the a2dpd daemon too. not sure why that happens. suspect a bug. Jun 16 19:26:12 i'm just not sure how a2dpd's avrcp support is intended to be used with other apps. Jun 16 19:26:25 huh, i haven't experienced that Jun 16 19:26:43 oh, here's a question, what bitpool are you getting? 53 or something lower Jun 16 19:26:57 i had to edit the source to get a decent quality for mine Jun 16 19:27:46 it seems like a2dpd is either multithreaded or forking, and the old threads/processes aren't being killed properly. Jun 16 19:28:28 what's a bitpool? Jun 16 19:29:06 uh, it's a factor of the baud rate that is being sent to your headphones, and determines what kind of sound quality you'll get Jun 16 19:29:36 how do i query it? Jun 16 19:30:52 there's a flag in the ~/.a2dprc Jun 16 19:31:05 you caught me reading some sqlite docs on my n800 so i'm pecking this out with thumbs. excuse the slowness. Jun 16 19:31:10 flags=1 Jun 16 19:31:36 turn that on to print bitpool? Jun 16 19:31:42 hah, no problem, setting flags=1 will dump out the bandwith used Jun 16 19:31:43 yep Jun 16 19:31:45 exactly Jun 16 19:32:14 k. gimme a minute and i'll fire it up. Jun 16 19:34:16 oh, i see. avrcp commands are in .a2dprc.. huh. Jun 16 19:34:27 yea Jun 16 19:34:45 so, i'm not sure what the proper command would be, but it should be trivial to do Jun 16 19:34:52 -for the avrcp stuff Jun 16 19:35:04 plus there's the mplayer config file that you could mess with too Jun 16 19:37:23 damn. i'm out of xterms. i'll have to log off and back in to start mplayer. brb. Jun 16 19:37:30 hah Jun 16 19:37:31 ok Jun 16 19:39:38 can one take a picture with n800 built-in camera from xterm command line? Jun 16 19:42:38 Bandwith: 26703 (208 kbps) 32 Jun 16 19:42:47 is that good? Jun 16 19:43:12 getting an unusual amount of skipping today, odd. Jun 16 19:43:15 oh, you can ramp that up to a bitpool of 53, which will give you a noticably better sound quality Jun 16 19:43:17 oh Jun 16 19:43:24 the skipping might get worse though Jun 16 19:43:32 how? Jun 16 19:43:33 might/might not Jun 16 19:43:44 well, it really depends on how luck you are Jun 16 19:44:06 if you're lucky, you can change the number in your ~/.a2dprc file from 32 to 53 Jun 16 19:44:33 if you are unlucky, you can edit the source, which i can help you with, recompile and reinstall Jun 16 19:44:53 k. brb. Jun 16 19:46:54 Bandwith: 35554 (277 kbps) 44 Jun 16 19:47:07 that's better Jun 16 19:47:14 i set it to 53 and got that. Jun 16 19:47:19 ok Jun 16 19:47:29 skipping went away. :) Jun 16 19:47:44 so, what's happening is that a2dpd is polling your device, and your device is saying that it can only go as high as 44 Jun 16 19:48:01 i know mine will accept 53, but you have to tell a2dpd to ignore the poll Jun 16 19:48:18 or alsa is only encoding 44? Jun 16 19:48:33 no, it will do higher Jun 16 19:48:50 plugin-rate setting? Jun 16 19:49:02 uh, i don't know what that is Jun 16 19:49:39 in order to get it higher, you'd need to edit the source Jun 16 19:49:40 says it's disabled, so nm. Jun 16 19:50:03 I'm pretty happy with 44 though. for now. Jun 16 19:50:20 so long as it doesn't skip. Jun 16 19:50:29 ok, good Jun 16 19:51:11 i just wish i could figure out how to get more xterms on t Jun 16 19:51:16 his thing! Jun 16 19:51:22 haha Jun 16 19:51:38 i've only had a couple running at a time Jun 16 19:51:46 so, i haven't run into that wall yet Jun 16 19:54:24 well, thanks for the help. i'll check out avrcp stuff shortly. need to finish readingabout sqlite right now though. Jun 16 19:55:11 ok, yea, i need to finish my book Jun 16 20:48:56 is it possible to write home applets in python? Or do I have to write those with C/C++? Jun 16 20:50:40 trevarthan, never try it but it seems to be possible Jun 16 20:50:44 http://blogs.gnome.org/lucasr/2007/03/22/writing-a-hello-world-python-plugin-for-hildon-desktop/ Jun 16 20:51:15 that is , if 'home applet' means 'hildon plugins' :) Jun 16 20:51:31 :D Jun 16 20:51:35 python rulz! Jun 16 20:51:46 :) sweet Jun 16 20:51:53 You just made my day melmoth. Jun 16 20:54:21 mhh. Not sure it s already working for os2007 Jun 16 20:54:36 http://blogs.gnome.org/lucasr/2007/03/22/writing-a-hello-world-python-plugin-for-hildon-desktop/#comment-326 Jun 16 20:57:15 cool demo! Jun 16 20:58:07 my only real problem is that I need a treatment agains gtk gnome and python. Jun 16 21:00:45 I'm a little annoyed that he didn't post the code as well. now I've got to watch the video and pause it. Jun 16 21:01:07 :) Jun 16 21:01:45 yea , the question is where did he find out how it works Jun 16 21:03:08 He's on the Hildon dev team. Jun 16 21:03:18 i think he is one of the guy writing the python wrapper for the hildon plugin Jun 16 21:03:18 http://blogs.gnome.org/lucasr/2007/01/29/hildon-ui-development-news/ Jun 16 21:03:47 according to the comment, this is not alreadt working though, except in sardine Jun 16 21:04:13 but may be, in the soon to be released phantom yet anoter firmware to come ? :) Jun 16 21:04:21 :) Jun 16 21:04:55 perhaps , in the screen cast he is using sardine Jun 16 21:15:44 hello, a have an C language app in gtk+ which run well on linux and how can port it to maemo ? Jun 16 21:15:59 I don't really understand how it's supposed to work if the new desktop is not python based Jun 16 21:17:31 perhaps the skype update? Jun 16 21:18:03 sorry, had problems with my keyboard, i have an C/GTK+ app which runs well on Linux, and how can i port it to maemo, i m quite new to maemo ... Jun 16 21:18:06 there's no /usr/lib/hildon-desktop/ in the 3.1 SDK. Jun 16 21:18:29 vnese You will need to make changes Jun 16 21:19:29 keesj: i installed scratchbox and tried to see the source code of maemopad, but i m confused Jun 16 21:19:59 vnese perhaps this will help a little http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/3-x/howto_porting_to_maemo_bora.html Jun 16 21:21:21 keesj: thanks, that helps Jun 16 21:21:27 time to sleep :P Jun 16 21:23:10 dammit melmoth. you gave me hope than wrenched it away! I built that home applet using python and yeah, it's not supported. home applets are expected to be ELF executables in the 3.1 SDK. man, that would have been so cool too. Jun 16 21:24:24 trevarthan, it may be usable soon . Jun 16 21:24:57 keep the code somewhere, and wait untill the python hildong plugin thingy is in the official os Jun 16 21:25:27 if i were you, i would mail the author of the demo, asking him if he knows some timeframe. Jun 16 21:25:56 yeah. you know what they aught to do? They aught to just make a home plugin that allows you to run python code. Sorta like mod_python. But whatever, next release maybe.... Jun 16 21:27:00 trevarthan, and you can already use python for regular application, just not fancy applet that stay on the 'dekstop' Jun 16 21:28:12 it looks to me it just a matter of what sort of windows is you app embedded in, regular (hildon.Program) or the applet thingy shown in the screencast Jun 16 21:28:27 yup Jun 16 21:28:39 problem is that I need to write an applet. :) Jun 16 21:29:00 do you know when you must have it available ? Jun 16 21:29:46 asap. :) it's not a work thing. I just want to get it out there. Jun 16 21:30:13 well, if it s asap, may be you want to try it out in C Jun 16 21:30:21 is sardine just the trunk/head dev branch SDK? Jun 16 21:30:30 yup. that's what I'll do. Jun 16 21:30:34 is there an app that can use gps data to tag pictures or videos you take with the location you took em? Jun 16 21:30:41 what do you want it to do ? Jun 16 21:32:20 I'm going to write a canola-like applet for scanning music into an sqlite DB for ukmp. Jun 16 21:34:22 hmmmm.... I wonder if I should just make it a normal app in python, then port it to Hildon Desktop framework when the next maemo release comes out. Jun 16 21:34:29 That might make more sense. Jun 16 21:35:44 yop Jun 16 21:36:11 keep it easy :) Jun 16 21:44:07 trevarthan, have you given pyphantom a try ? Jun 16 21:44:19 it s among the most active project of the week Jun 16 21:44:21 https://garage.maemo.org/projects/pyphantom/ Jun 16 21:44:53 what client pppoe for n800 ? Jun 16 21:44:55 man... it looks like using pysqlite in a maemo app is going to be challenging. pysqlite3 is in 2.5 by default, but python 2.5 is a third party package.... Jun 16 21:44:59 not existing ? Jun 16 21:45:33 trevarthan, you want to use python2.5 anyway Jun 16 21:46:12 :) I've got 2.3 on my desktop. and 2.3 ships with the SDK. Jun 16 21:46:39 sounds like I want to target 2.3 Jun 16 21:46:58 hmm. Jun 16 21:47:10 is not ukmp using 2.5 already ? Jun 16 21:47:58 nah. It runs fine using 2.3 Jun 16 21:51:45 I guess it wouldn't be that bad to require python 2.5. It's available for the 770 and n800 via pymaemo. I'm just not sure how konttori would feel about that. Jun 16 21:54:54 I've got python 2.5 on my n800.... but I'm not sure how it got there. :) Jun 16 22:09:13 how installing apps extencion .install ? Jun 16 22:09:52 Im new in the world n800 and english :D Jun 16 22:09:57 open the link where .install is located on you n800 browser Jun 16 22:10:02 and click on it.. Jun 16 22:10:03 just click on the link to the .install Jun 16 22:10:07 it will do everything for you Jun 16 23:09:00 This sucks. I installed python2.5 in my scratchbox from pymaemo using their recommended method for scratchbox and I can't get ukmp to run. Jun 16 23:09:22 It dies right after initializing pygame. Jun 16 23:11:17 worked here Jun 16 23:11:33 trevarthan, try to start it from a term, so you can read the backtrace Jun 16 23:13:17 I did. No backtrace. I get QEMU errors. (sometimes) Jun 16 23:13:58 Interesting: http://www.bleb.org/writings/diary/&month=06/2007#16 (sorry for the link to my own site, but I can't be bothered retyping all the ASUS Eee info out again) Jun 16 23:14:10 oh, in the scratchobx, i did not try that out Jun 16 23:14:37 i did not install ukmp in it because i did not find the .deb for x86 Jun 16 23:17:43 yeah, I'm using the arm scratchbox. Jun 16 23:17:54 Why would you use x86 scratchbox, btw? Jun 16 23:18:22 i always do, except when i make a .deb for the arm one Jun 16 23:18:43 why? for speed or something? Jun 16 23:18:48 hmmm Jun 16 23:18:50 habit ? Jun 16 23:19:29 it appears that it's just pygame that's foobar'd in python 2.5 for scratchbox. I wrote a little gtk app and that works fine. ugh. Jun 16 23:20:13 pygame works ok here (in x86 :) ) Jun 16 23:22:23 python 2.5? Jun 16 23:22:30 yes Jun 16 23:22:43 3.1 sdk? Jun 16 23:23:41 how do I switch to x86? Jun 16 23:24:31 sb-menu i think Jun 16 23:24:55 once you log in , there is a short message that tells you to run sb-menu for maintenance tasks and so on Jun 16 23:25:03 the choose select target Jun 16 23:26:04 hello, i try to compile a gnome/gtk+ app, which runs well on my linux, on maemo, i deleted all the line which required gnome library, but when i run ./autogen.sh, it says it need libglade Jun 16 23:26:17 oh.... I'm running over a remote X11 link. I wonder if that has something to do with it. crap. Jun 16 23:26:26 it s quite important since i use glade to code my gui Jun 16 23:26:30 I just can't win today. :) Jun 16 23:27:04 apt-get install libglade2-dev Jun 16 23:28:11 so that means if i miss any lib, i can install it in scratchbox, how about the gnome library? Jun 16 23:28:33 i doubt somebody 'ported' the whole gnome stuff Jun 16 23:28:38 but libglade is there Jun 16 23:29:31 then , if you need sometghing not already 'ported', you need to 'port' it yourself (ie just creating the .deb for the arm arch, and here you go) Jun 16 23:30:20 for the arm arch? sorry i m new comer and i dont get it Jun 16 23:31:02 you cannot install a regular .deb on the n800 because the cpu is not your regular i686 one Jun 16 23:31:23 well, as long as you are in scratchbox, yhou dont care that much Jun 16 23:31:50 so preparre your .deb for scratcbox, and when it works ok, switch to the arm target, and re create a .deb for arm. Jun 16 23:31:53 and here you go Jun 16 23:34:38 melmoth: thanks, got it Jun 16 23:36:06 btw what is the application you are looking at ? Jun 16 23:36:06 but hhhmmm, it keeps saying i need libgnomeui-2.0 gtk+2.0, dont you think i should install those lib also ? Jun 16 23:36:42 libgnomeui sounds like a gnome thingy, will be difficult to find. Jun 16 23:36:43 i have written myself an C/Gnome/GTK+ app in linux Jun 16 23:36:57 and i try to install it in maemo Jun 16 23:37:06 just to study things in maemo Jun 16 23:38:05 libgtk2 is available Jun 16 23:38:20 what i did is : i copied the whole source code, modified it, and compile it again in scratchbox env Jun 16 23:39:05 when compiling, it says it need those gnome and gtk lib Jun 16 23:39:13 well, if it works(app run), you probably dont need libgnomeui, then you can remove it from the autoconf/autotools files Jun 16 23:40:19 for the gtk, just apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev Jun 16 23:40:28 for the gnomeui, it will be more tricky Jun 16 23:40:36 either port this lib Jun 16 23:41:00 or be sure the code does not use it at all, and remove it from the autoconf definition file (most probably autogen.sh) Jun 16 23:44:17 i m checking in autogen.sh Jun 16 23:44:26 but thanks for your advice Jun 16 23:44:58 once you removed the requirement, you ll need to regenerate a configure script Jun 16 23:45:13 i think all you need to do is relaunche autogen.sh Jun 16 23:45:24 (it s been a while since i have played with those :) Jun 17 00:55:18 Hi there Jun 17 00:55:56 Am I the only swede with a nokia n800? :) Jun 17 00:58:44 doubtful Jun 17 00:59:13 Have anyone of you had problems with the internet call activation? Jun 17 01:07:56 fantastic 4 ... Jun 17 01:08:07 770 first big screen appereance Jun 17 01:10:38 http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howdoibecomeroot2/ Jun 17 01:10:49 the server ssh how activate ? Jun 17 01:11:18 I not have root :\ Jun 17 01:20:44 has anyone had any problems with the internet call activation? Jun 17 01:21:11 nope Jun 17 01:21:29 Ok.. i cant activate it anyway Jun 17 01:21:42 Blacksitox, you might be able to use babelfish to translate that link.... Jun 17 01:22:11 what do you mean you can't activate it? Jun 17 01:22:28 you send another person with a gmail account an invitation to chat.. Jun 17 01:22:31 well.. I allready have a gtalk account. voip works and so on Jun 17 01:22:45 unique311, :D Jun 17 01:22:46 no.. before i can do that i have to activate the feature .. and that doesnt work Jun 17 01:22:50 send someone an invite chat.. Jun 17 01:23:04 doesnt work. It says that I have to activate the feature first. Jun 17 01:23:19 hold on Jun 17 01:23:56 so, i press "ok".. and then i have to choose a screen name.. then i press ok again. then it says "activateing".. then it says.. could not activate.. try later.. But i have tried like... 1000 times :) Jun 17 01:25:14 do you have a wireless connection Jun 17 01:30:14 uh.. something happened to my connection Jun 17 01:30:41 unique311: did u answer anything? Jun 17 01:31:41 hmmm Jun 17 01:32:21 are you doing this while your device is connected to a wireless point Jun 17 01:32:32 yes Jun 17 01:32:54 I've tried different wireless points Jun 17 01:33:09 voice works fine, but video call doesnt work Jun 17 01:33:11 did you set up you gmail account Jun 17 01:33:30 or, at least I cant send an invitation cause it wont activate Jun 17 01:33:34 yes Jun 17 01:33:35 control panel>accounts Jun 17 01:34:11 let me send you an invite..to chat Jun 17 01:35:23 hello Jun 17 01:36:13 Does anyone's N800 randomly boot up by itself? Jun 17 01:38:40 u got a bad connection crotc2 Jun 17 01:39:29 i've noticed Jun 17 01:40:22 maybe you should try activating right next to the router Jun 17 01:40:44 Oh.. thats not it. I've tried different wireless connections Jun 17 01:41:18 whats ur gmail addy... Jun 17 01:41:22 i'll send you an invite Jun 17 01:41:27 wait Jun 17 01:41:34 iĺl pm u Jun 17 01:41:53 k Jun 17 01:43:44 what change my pass for root ? Jun 17 01:43:49 damn Jun 17 01:43:54 how change my pass for root ? Jun 17 01:44:00 Anybody know what 'por' means in /proc/bootreason? Jun 17 01:44:20 don't bother Blacksitox Jun 17 01:44:36 don't bother Blacksitox" Jun 17 01:44:49 proc Jun 17 01:44:56 unique: im trying to pm u Jun 17 01:44:56 sorry Jun 17 01:45:10 you are not a registered user.. Jun 17 01:45:14 aha Jun 17 01:45:15 crotc2 Jun 17 01:45:15 ok Jun 17 01:45:21 you need to register the nick Jun 17 01:45:32 hmm.. Jun 17 01:45:40 newbie :) Jun 17 01:46:00 run /msg nickserv register "password" Jun 17 01:46:27 and then run /msg nickserv identify "password" Jun 17 01:46:40 but before both of those commands.. Jun 17 01:47:02 run /nick "nick you would like" Jun 17 01:48:06 depending on the client you are using you can make the identify part of the command automatic... Jun 17 01:48:56 well actually with all irc clients.. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jun 17 02:59:56 2007