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Jun 23 03:47:20 * rwhitby is going to love pose on the n800
Jun 23 03:53:21 <pupnik> try it out
Jun 23 03:59:00 <pupnik> rwhitby: you can grab unique311's build off the ITT forum link
Jun 23 04:09:49 <unique311> working on the skin..m130....will put alot of work into it...before next release...issue with roms&skins. m130 is a little small...
Jun 23 04:10:14 <unique311> open with gimp or preferred app, and scale image size to 720x420
Jun 23 04:12:28 <pupnik> ?
Jun 23 04:17:23 <unique311> not sure
Jun 23 04:17:33 <unique311> i dl the skin pack from divshare..
Jun 23 04:17:43 <unique311> and had issues when i started the m130
Jun 23 04:17:51 <unique311> it was small
Jun 23 04:27:34 <pupnik> hmm
Jun 23 04:29:59 <pupnik> then edit your ITT post to point to the fixed skin
Jun 23 05:39:37 <pupnik_> pupnik is a total idiot.  can't finish his mods to Ur-Quan masters.  Can't get drpocketsnes ported.  He sucks.
Jun 23 05:39:45 <pupnik_> oh oops
Jun 23 06:45:52 <N800> gotta love those geico cavemen can do it commercials....
Jun 23 09:27:29 <Jaffa> who
Jun 23 09:27:31 <Jaffa> ^/
Jun 23 09:32:36 <pupnik> how
Jun 23 10:06:03 <sbaturzio> Aloha!
Jun 23 10:55:42 <SeRi_zZZz> Is there any way to uninstall canola?
Jun 23 10:56:29 <melmoth> should work with apt-get remove
Jun 23 10:56:43 <SeRi_zZZz> nope
Jun 23 10:57:07 <melmoth> what is the command line you used, and the error message you get ?
Jun 23 10:58:05 <SeRi_zZZz> I get no error it uninstalls the packege or so it claims but it still stay in the system fully functional
Jun 23 10:58:30 <SeRi_zZZz> look here for more details
Jun 23 10:58:32 <SeRi_zZZz> http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=53497#post53497
Jun 23 10:58:39 * melmoth is reading
Jun 23 10:59:25 <melmoth> this is freaking awful !
Jun 23 10:59:45 <melmoth> Sounds like the soft install itself with a lots of cp as a post install task in the deb file.
Jun 23 11:00:02 <melmoth> so, dpkg does not know wich files belong to it
Jun 23 11:00:31 <melmoth> really sounds like an guly way of packaging stuff. And as canola is not open source, we do not have access to the source deb to check it out, do we ? :)
Jun 23 11:00:50 <pupnik> glad i never installed it
Jun 23 11:00:52 <SeRi_zZZz> Not that I know off... This sux! :(
Jun 23 11:01:09 <melmoth> big style
Jun 23 11:01:29 <SeRi_zZZz> yeap
Jun 23 11:02:23 <SeRi_zZZz> I am going to wait for the next firmware release before I have to reflash
Jun 23 11:03:00 <SeRi_zZZz> this sux... damn canola.... I am going to try and find a way... if I do ill keep u guys up to date
Jun 23 11:03:17 <SeRi_zZZz> peace I am going back to sleep :P
Jun 23 11:03:22 <SeRi_zZZz> G/N
Jun 23 11:03:28 <SeRi_zZZz> and Thanks for the help!
Jun 23 11:04:02 <melmoth> I wonder if you can know the post install stuff with dpkg-deb show stuff
Jun 23 11:04:20 <melmoth> and from there guess wich file have been installed (if i m right it just cp stuff on postinstall)
Jun 23 11:04:33 <melmoth> good night :)
Jun 23 11:07:14 <pupnik> anybody bored and want a nice project? :)
Jun 23 11:17:05 <pupnik> http://reesy.gp32x.de/DrPocketSnes.html
Jun 23 11:17:20 <pupnik> http://wiki.gp2x.org/wiki/DrPocketSNES
Jun 23 11:17:34 <pupnik> DrPocketSNES is a fullspeed SNES emulator. Reesy combined the current SquidgeSNES with the renderer of PocketSNES and now we've got an SNES Emulator that runs most games fullspeed (with some framskip) with sound at 250 MHz - INCLUDING transparencies and partial SuperFX chip support!
Jun 23 12:33:23 <acydlord> anyone planning to run ubunty gutsy on their N800 when it comes out?
Jun 23 12:33:39 <N800> I
Jun 23 12:33:52 <N800> why?
Jun 23 12:34:03 <acydlord> was just reading an article on it
Jun 23 12:34:27 <acydlord> i'm interested to see how well it runs on an embedded system
Jun 23 12:35:15 <N800> when they release gutsy they are releasing the embedded version of ubuntu correct, or is gutsy the embedded version..
Jun 23 12:35:40 <N800> i think thats what i remember reading.
Jun 23 12:37:39 <acydlord> gutsy will be available for embedded also
Jun 23 12:38:18 <acydlord> i'm wondering if they are going to have an arm option for every version after now
Jun 23 12:39:59 <Jaffa> acydlord: AFAIK there's nothing which says Gutsy will have an N800 port
Jun 23 12:40:36 <Jaffa> acydlord: UME will be available as part of the Gutsy release, but that doesn't mean either a) ARM or b) an N800 version
Jun 23 12:41:04 <acydlord> it's been shown on one of the sony arm devices
Jun 23 12:41:20 <edt> SeRi_zZZz  I suspect that you could reinstall canola and then use find to get the files updated/added by the install.  Then you could use dpkg, vi and rm to remove it.
Jun 23 12:41:51 <acydlord> guess we'll know for sure in a few months
Jun 23 12:47:01 <edt> acydload it would be very interesting it nokia could be persuaded to use gutsy as the base for the N series boxes - might be possible IF it would save nokia money on os development.   They could have a large influence on it direction by having payed devs working on it...
Jun 23 12:47:54 <koen> heh
Jun 23 12:48:29 <koen> when ubuntu says 'embedded' they actually mean 'no 8" screen, 40GB harddisk, 1GB of ram'
Jun 23 12:48:55 <koen> s/no//
Jun 23 12:48:55 <infobot> koen meant: when ubuntu says 'embedded' they actually mean ' 8" screen, 40GB harddisk, 1GB of ram'
Jun 23 12:50:22 <Jaffa> Cor, blimey - when did infobot arrive?
Jun 23 12:50:29 <Jaffa> i.e. UMPCs etc.
Jun 23 12:50:41 <Jaffa> acydlord: You're not talking about the P990i SE phone are you?
Jun 23 12:51:13 <Jaffa> Now, UME on an Asus Eee PC could be very interesting :)
Jun 23 12:53:09 <acydlord> i still love how UMPC's are anything but ultra mobile
Jun 23 12:53:56 <N800> well if ubuntu can't install on the N800, I am definitely going to be trying out angstrom
Jun 23 12:55:03 <N800> the dude that brings us enlightenment is working on a port for the N800...plus plus plus
Jun 23 12:55:36 * Jaffa imagines trying to drag a window around on a tiny screen on a moving train... fun.
Jun 23 12:55:45 <N800> lol
Jun 23 12:55:47 <acydlord> ew, fox newscorp is trying to get a monopoly going online it looks like
Jun 23 12:55:51 <N800> should be fun
Jun 23 12:56:18 <edt> I am surprised just how well the n800 is able to use its 128M,  I do have swap enabled - do not think it has ever had to use it...
Jun 23 12:56:23 <koen> Jaffa: but it will be eye-candy fun ;)
Jun 23 12:57:43 <Jaffa> very true
Jun 23 12:57:47 <pupnik> ubuntu tastes like lindows
Jun 23 12:58:19 <Jaffa> koen: iPhone-like eye candy good
Jun 23 12:58:23 <Jaffa> pupnik: ?
Jun 23 12:59:04 <pupnik> <- debianisti
Jun 23 12:59:37 <Jaffa> Ah, so you don't like things easy to use, regularly released, accessible to new comers and with little to no viing in /etc ;-)
Jun 23 12:59:39 <pupnik> (debianazi?)
Jun 23 12:59:51 <Jaffa> Debianista, I'd say ;)
Jun 23 13:00:02 <pupnik> yeah that's it
Jun 23 13:00:21 <N800> debianette
Jun 23 13:00:25 <N800> maybe
Jun 23 13:00:49 <pupnik> no, there needs to be a martial connotation
Jun 23 13:01:43 <N800> hey we speaks english in these parts.....no need for the fancy stuff
Jun 23 13:01:57 <pupnik> btw Jaffa, sidux addresses those issues very well
Jun 23 13:02:42 <Jaffa> pupnik: but then that's just as much Debian as Ubuntu is, surely?
Jun 23 13:03:08 <pupnik> no, it's pure sid with daily fixes, automagic upgrades
Jun 23 13:03:26 <Jaffa> Ah, OK
Jun 23 13:04:04 <pupnik> though ubuntu still gets the nod for real noobs
Jun 23 13:10:10 <bilboed> is there a maemo-compatible frontend for MPD ?
Jun 23 13:16:58 <acydlord> man, what is with all the good female hosts leaving the vodcast news sites
Jun 23 13:17:15 <acydlord> first amanda leaves rocketboom, now karina leaves mobuzz
Jun 23 13:21:21 <acydlord> i'll be back later, i've got some work to do
Jun 23 13:32:37 <N800> hmmm 20 seconds and the app shuts off
Jun 23 13:32:46 <N800> quits
Jun 23 13:57:10 <pupnik> http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6954
Jun 23 13:58:24 <pupnik> surely someone here wants to be l33t and cool and a porting hero?
Jun 23 13:59:23 <pupnik> fame, fortune, and scores of groupies?
Jun 23 14:10:56 <edt> what n800 program understands vodcasts?
Jun 23 14:12:54 <pupnik> 16:08 < val-o-alto> I remember when win(lose)95 came out -- one of the guys at the school said "oh  look, it's Motif."
Jun 23 14:23:39 <Sho_> Hum, now I have that SDict Viewer app but sdict.com is down for more than a week
Jun 23 14:44:04 <guardian> hello maemo
Jun 23 14:51:08 <Jaffa> edt: none, really
Jun 23 15:21:24 <unique311> pupnik: want to add me to the dev list for POSE
Jun 23 15:21:42 <unique311> so i can upload all the stuff I did today...
Jun 23 15:21:46 <unique311> working nice...
Jun 23 15:22:20 <unique311> need the keyboard once and thats to right click on that first screen on startup...
Jun 23 15:22:59 <unique311> after that right click via the fullscreen key works...
Jun 23 15:23:07 <unique311> new skins..
Jun 23 15:23:17 <unique311> well not new...just worked on some more..
Jun 23 15:25:35 <unique311> oh and it both FLTK and POSE install via the APPLICATION MANAGER.
Jun 23 15:27:51 <pupnik> i am not finding the link to add new members
Jun 23 15:27:56 <pupnik> try sending a request-to-join
Jun 23 15:29:16 <unique311> k
Jun 23 15:29:35 <pupnik> pretty strange
Jun 23 15:30:20 <unique311> submitted
Jun 23 15:31:51 <pupnik> what's your username
Jun 23 15:36:46 <unique311> unique311
Jun 23 15:37:03 <unique311> sorry for the delay..typing a post for ITT
Jun 23 15:39:05 <pupnik> ok done
Jun 23 15:41:51 <pupnik> By using JIT technology (dynamically generated code at runtime), video scaling is now a lot faster (up to 8x factor) in the recently released mplayer_1.0rc1-maemo.8 version.
Jun 23 15:42:08 <pupnik> i missed that... crazy stuff
Jun 23 15:42:26 <unique311> new version..
Jun 23 15:42:27 <unique311> nice
Jun 23 15:42:47 <pupnik> no 5 months old, but i missed that note
Jun 23 15:43:23 <unique311> i cannot submit news unless admin..
Jun 23 15:43:24 <pupnik> that's really nuts.  i thought JIT was only useful for emulators
Jun 23 15:43:33 <unique311> so when i'm done with the ITT post..
Jun 23 15:43:41 <unique311> you check it out...and write the news....
Jun 23 15:43:46 <derf> pupnik: You obviously haven't been doing graphics very long.
Jun 23 15:44:17 <melmoth> why do i not find any esdsink in gst-inspect-0.10  output ?
Jun 23 15:44:23 <derf> It's just like the 386/486 days.
Jun 23 15:44:51 <pupnik> ok umm.  lets see.  i wrote demos for some of the first 2d accelerated pc cards in 87. ergo wrong conclusion
Jun 23 15:46:04 <derf> And you don't remember everyone writing dynamically generated bitmap blitting code?
Jun 23 15:49:15 <unique311> http://www.flickr.com/photos/unique0nez/?saved=1
Jun 23 15:49:21 <unique311> the new skins..
Jun 23 15:49:33 <unique311> nothing that new about them..
Jun 23 15:50:29 <unique311> can see the minor  changes...
Jun 23 15:52:22 <pupnik> ok i'll cheak
Jun 23 15:52:40 <pupnik> derf, no i never did any video
Jun 23 15:53:46 * pupnik just dabbles anyway
Jun 23 15:54:40 <pupnik> if nokia had just sold more units, we'd have real programmers porting the apps i want :P
Jun 23 15:56:54 <MoRpHeUz> where do you get more themes for maemo ? =)
Jun 23 15:57:57 <pupnik> google knows
Jun 23 15:58:55 <MoRpHeUz> pupnik: he may know, but he doesnt know if a theme is good or not...this is why I'm asking for suggestions..
Jun 23 15:58:56 <MoRpHeUz> =)
Jun 23 16:01:19 <pupnik> http://thememaker.garage.maemo.org/Themes.html
Jun 23 16:04:48 <MoRpHeUz> thank you...
Jun 23 16:05:04 <MoRpHeUz> all I was looking were that themes at garage... (not so good) =(
Jun 23 16:06:40 <MoRpHeUz> hhmm...just aqua theme is different..
Jun 23 16:06:50 <pupnik> there are graphical theme makes now.  might be fun to try making your own
Jun 23 16:11:25 <MoRpHeUz> pupnik: yeah...I'm just so bad doing that hehe
Jun 23 16:11:36 <MoRpHeUz> maybe I'll try =D
Jun 23 17:06:47 <melmoth> anybody here fluent with gstreamer ?
Jun 23 17:07:11 <melmoth> i m wondering why are all the sink present in the tabler not there on scratchbox ?
Jun 23 17:07:50 <melmoth> the only way i found to play with it , is thus to code directly in the n800 (i m using python luckyli, so no compilation needed)
Jun 23 17:08:01 <melmoth> but it s a _pain_, i have no emacs anymore :(
Jun 23 17:17:28 <unique311> pupnik you have the pre release file saved on you computer?
Jun 23 17:17:55 <unique311> I made a mistake..and kind of deleted it.
Jun 23 17:40:30 <unique311> the device listed in the /dev directory mmcblk0 is the SD cards
Jun 23 17:40:33 <unique311> ??
Jun 23 17:40:34 <unique311> ??
Jun 23 17:42:19 <melmoth>   /dev/mmcblk0p1 is  /media/mmc2 here (cf output of mount)
Jun 23 17:43:20 <unique311> ok
Jun 23 17:43:32 <unique311> seeing if i can get pose to mount it..
Jun 23 17:43:40 <unique311> theirs an option to mount devices..
Jun 23 17:45:10 <unique311> seems its for communication...
Jun 23 17:45:33 <unique311> serial, IR
Jun 23 21:34:03 <sbaturzio> Aloha!
Jun 24 01:21:41 <edt> will the next os/flash drop add codecs to mediaplayer?
Jun 24 01:22:21 <edt> its current set is rather limited....
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