**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Aug 04 02:59:56 2007 Aug 04 03:00:24 like "convert -resize 640x480 input.jpg output.jpg" Aug 04 03:00:31 tchan: haven't found one yet Aug 04 03:00:45 tchan: trying to find out how hard it would be to compile for the 800 Aug 04 03:01:27 that would be gold, I just don't have the dev experience Aug 04 03:11:56 anyone tethered a ppc to n770 or n800 over bluetooth Aug 04 03:33:42 oh man if i cant tether this thing imma return it Aug 04 03:33:45 wifi is no use to me Aug 04 03:35:11 padre pio? Aug 04 03:35:23 los pollitos dicen pio pio pio Aug 04 03:35:48 cuando tienen hambre, cuando tienen frio Aug 04 03:35:51 actually i got if from the butthole surfers album pioughd.. had that nick for a while, in the days before nick completion, everyone just called me pio for short Aug 04 03:35:52 nice! Aug 04 03:55:02 anyoen know why i cant browse my n800 on windows Aug 04 03:55:14 and no snarky anti-MS comments Aug 04 03:55:30 i hook it up to usb.. it mounts the device but state sthat it needs to be formatted Aug 04 03:55:36 but it wont format it Aug 04 04:18:02 hey fellows Aug 04 07:03:10 why apt-get is not working for me to install softwares ? Aug 04 07:03:22 i get list of dependencies and it halts Aug 04 07:06:34 because something is broken Aug 04 08:00:28 pupnik: how can i solve the apt-get issue ? Aug 04 08:00:50 one moment let me paste it to the pastebin Aug 04 08:02:12 http://pastebin.ca/645202 Aug 04 08:02:57 that's a lot of dependencies! Aug 04 08:03:31 pupnik: it should resolve itself and install thoses ones too right ? Aug 04 08:05:15 i think the repository you added for asterisk must be incorrect Aug 04 08:05:29 but that is just a guess Aug 04 08:06:02 or rather, you installed asterisk with dpkg -i Aug 04 08:06:13 and then ran apt-get install asterisk, because it didn't run Aug 04 08:07:05 i did not install asterisk with dpkg Aug 04 08:07:13 ok Aug 04 08:07:24 # Aug 04 08:07:24 asterisk is already the newest version. Aug 04 08:07:33 haha Aug 04 08:07:47 did not get you ! Aug 04 08:08:06 look at your pastebin.ca output Aug 04 08:08:38 yes ican see it is asking for latest libraries Aug 04 08:08:54 no man Aug 04 08:08:56 but i don't know from which repos it is grabbing from Aug 04 08:09:03 you have some kind of askterisk from the wrong distribution Aug 04 08:09:12 there is no gcc 4.2 for IT Aug 04 08:09:38 gcc version 3.4.4 (release) (CodeSourcery ARM 2005q3-2) Aug 04 08:09:52 you probably tried to install an asterisk from some other debian-arm distro Aug 04 08:09:53 oh ok Aug 04 08:10:05 i c Aug 04 08:10:13 you mean my repository settings are not correct ? Aug 04 08:10:49 maybe Aug 04 08:12:20 i suggest you search with google Aug 04 08:13:16 if you do not see discussion in #maemo IRC, or maemo-developers or maemo-users about asterisk, and links to asterisk *FOR* The Nokia, then you will have much work to do Aug 04 08:14:00 if you can show a URL to asterisk FOR THE N770, then maybe we can solve the problem Aug 04 08:14:37 pupnik: there is one but that is for OS2005 Aug 04 08:14:45 not for OS2006 Aug 04 08:14:50 ah. Aug 04 08:15:06 that will not work. contact the author or search for other people who have run asterisk Aug 04 08:15:14 s/author/porter/ Aug 04 08:15:14 pupnik meant: that will not work. contact the porter or search for other people who have run asterisk Aug 04 08:15:29 it2005 programs do not work on it2006 Aug 04 08:15:43 i don't have x86 machine installed with linux Aug 04 08:16:08 thanks pupnik Aug 04 08:16:18 sorry i can't help Aug 04 08:16:21 i will check whether other programs are getting installed Aug 04 08:17:10 the person who compiled asterisk for 2005 probably can compile it for 2006 Aug 04 08:19:35 i will build one soon and release it Aug 04 08:20:03 i just now tried installed net-tools with apt-get Aug 04 08:20:07 still i have problem Aug 04 08:20:21 but i have found net-tool in the pool Aug 04 08:21:41 i even did apt-get update too Aug 04 08:22:09 pupnik: can you help the apt-get problem sorted out ? Aug 04 08:22:39 this version of asterisk is incorrect Aug 04 08:23:24 ok Aug 04 08:23:37 actually i tried to install net-tools Aug 04 08:23:46 apt-get install net-tools Aug 04 08:23:55 where there is an .deb file in the pool Aug 04 08:24:09 but i could not get it automatically installed with apt-get Aug 04 08:24:21 what i do is, i download the files manually and install with ipkg Aug 04 08:27:04 Anyone know how to get out of insert mode in vi? There seems to be no escape key. Aug 04 08:28:05 the return button Aug 04 08:28:15 the loopy arrow one i mean Aug 04 08:28:27 Ah, that makes perfect sense. Thanks. Aug 04 08:28:35 np Aug 04 08:37:29 Morning, all Aug 04 09:00:38 i just plugged my 770 into my mac over usb Aug 04 09:00:49 card mounted fine, i tried to copy some files across Aug 04 09:00:55 but the transfer crashed Aug 04 09:01:01 tried to unmount it as best as i could Aug 04 09:01:04 then just unplugged it Aug 04 09:01:12 now the card wont appear when i plug it back in on my mac Aug 04 09:01:20 ive done a full restart and replug in on the device Aug 04 09:02:15 what can i do Aug 04 09:02:28 when i plug it in the 770 has the usb icon there Aug 04 09:23:58 after a track finishes playing canola is it normal for it to take a minute for it to find the next track to play Aug 04 09:24:06 its stuck display -0:03 Aug 04 09:24:15 and doesnt respond Aug 04 09:24:20 then find the next track a minute later Aug 04 09:28:16 is that normal? Aug 04 09:35:17 is it just me or does UKMP 1.5 not stop playing on exit? Aug 04 09:39:06 can anyone recommend media player for linux to serve nokia 770 ? Aug 04 09:41:56 how come when i mount my 770's card over usb it works fine the first time Aug 04 09:42:01 but every time after that it doesnt show up Aug 04 09:42:31 Dunno. I'll try myself right now though. Aug 04 09:42:41 im on mac os x Aug 04 09:42:45 so that might affect things Aug 04 09:43:03 after its been plugged in Aug 04 09:43:07 i cant open any applications on my mac Aug 04 09:43:22 and am forced to turn it off by holding in power Aug 04 09:43:47 i assume that isnt normal :p Aug 04 09:44:13 Shouldn't be! o.O Aug 04 09:45:01 fantastic Aug 04 09:45:11 and my canola isnt playing nicely either Aug 04 09:46:21 Remounting works fine for me under Linux, so it's either OS X or your device. Aug 04 09:46:33 well this sucks Aug 04 09:46:48 Are you ejecting it properly? Aug 04 09:46:53 yea Aug 04 09:47:56 No idea then. I'm a fairly new 770 owner. :/ Aug 04 09:48:15 same Aug 04 09:48:46 i dont really want either of my devices to be broken :-( Aug 04 09:48:49 Speaking of which, anyone know how to get maemo-dm on the 770? Aug 04 09:49:58 * MobileSim can't find a package or repo for it anywhere. Aug 04 09:53:52 any 770 veterans about? require assistance :p Aug 04 10:04:21 ok i think its behavign Aug 04 10:04:29 now its just canola that is broken Aug 04 10:12:24 are there any password keeping programs for maemo? Aug 04 10:53:07 bldewolf: interesting question. what does a password keeping program do? Aug 04 11:03:23 good morning Aug 04 11:15:53 robtaylor: cool! thanks Aug 04 12:02:37 does anyone know the resolution, fps and bit rate of the sample video you get with a nokia 770? Aug 04 12:36:03 where u get media convertor from for windows Aug 04 12:41:16 anyone? Aug 04 12:59:26 media converter? Aug 04 12:59:27 <_Monkey> i guess media converter is https://garage.maemo.org/projects/mediaconverter Aug 04 14:09:57 hello all Aug 04 14:10:39 two new 770, one with supplied IT2006 (latest) and the other with 2007 Hackers. How to get smbfs? Aug 04 14:56:37 anyone here having usb host mode working with the patches from www.muro.com? Aug 04 15:20:09 guys, How can I add my google domain account to gtalk in nokia n800 ? Aug 04 15:21:16 lemme elaborate, my mail for jadmadi.net is hosted at google for domains http://google.com/a/, I use pidgin just fine with my laptop but how to set that up in my nokia without using pidgin to use the audio conversation feature ? Aug 04 15:33:09 hm Aug 04 15:33:22 i can only copy across 24/26 mb to my mmc over usb Aug 04 15:33:31 then my computer locks up Aug 04 15:33:33 (mac os x) Aug 04 15:33:37 whats goin on Aug 04 15:37:58 amr: N800 latest image? Aug 04 15:38:44 n770 latest image Aug 04 15:39:00 dunno then Aug 04 15:39:24 brilliant :( Aug 04 15:39:27 just thought it might be related to that sd corruption bug Aug 04 15:47:54 Hi people, good evening Aug 04 15:48:41 I'm following the tutorial in http://www.progbox.co.uk/wordpress/?p=351 abou scratchbox installation Aug 04 15:49:02 I'm having problems when updating sdk from 3.1 to 3.2 inside the armel target Aug 04 15:49:13 it works fine inside the intel target however Aug 04 15:52:33 this is the output of "fakeroot apt-get dist-upgrade": Aug 04 15:52:48 Unpacking replacement maemo-af-desktop ... Aug 04 15:52:48 /var/lib/dpkg/info/maemo-af-desktop.postrm: line 5: /usr/bin/update-mime-database: No such file or directory Aug 04 15:52:48 dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 1 Aug 04 15:52:48 dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ... Aug 04 15:52:48 /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/postrm: line 5: /usr/bin/update-mime-database: No such file or directory Aug 04 15:52:49 dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/maemo-af-desktop_2.9.99.25-1_armel.deb (--unpack): Aug 04 15:52:51 subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 1 Aug 04 15:52:53 /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/postrm: line 5: /usr/bin/update-mime-database: No such file or directory Aug 04 15:53:03 but /usr/bin/update-mime-database does exist Aug 04 15:53:07 any idea? Aug 04 15:53:45 In the irc log, I can read about someone having the same problem some days ago Aug 04 15:54:46 anybody? Aug 04 15:54:47 <_Monkey> it has been said that anybody is Im here Aug 04 15:55:57 :'( Aug 04 15:56:40 if i plug the mmc into a laptop i can copy fine Aug 04 15:56:42 dalonso, hmm there are a few that use scratchbox, I have it installed but I don't use it much Aug 04 15:56:49 so is it my device, my cable Aug 04 15:56:52 or my macbook Aug 04 15:57:12 erstazi, thx Aug 04 15:57:57 dalonso, I am going to see about porting some apps myself, sometime Aug 04 15:58:32 dalonso, what app are you trying to port? Aug 04 15:58:43 erstazi, I'd like to learn the hildon api and maybe do some portings after Aug 04 15:58:53 ah Aug 04 15:59:01 erstazi: I received my N800 only some days ago Aug 04 15:59:04 so first contact Aug 04 15:59:34 amr, you can not access your mmc card on your nokia while the usb is plugged in to your computer Aug 04 15:59:40 i know that Aug 04 15:59:54 my problem is that Aug 04 15:59:57 when plugged into my macbook Aug 04 16:00:08 dalonso, aye, thats understandable, there are a lot of apps still needing porting for this ARM arch debian-based distro Aug 04 16:00:08 i can only copy across the first 24mb of a file then the transfer locks up Aug 04 16:00:11 as does my macbook Aug 04 16:00:29 amr, I haven't experienced that Aug 04 16:00:39 does anyone here have a macbook? Aug 04 16:00:54 amr, what size of mmc did you receive? the original 64mb? Aug 04 16:01:02 its a 1gb one Aug 04 16:01:20 datawrite 1gb rs-mmc Aug 04 16:03:30 ok Aug 04 16:04:28 Like a lot of people I have just got a N770 (now they seem to be clearing them out) its a hard job working out where to start with upgrading and setting up the unit, is there a newbie website that any one could point me at Aug 04 16:04:30 ? Aug 04 16:04:45 Chiliblue, yes I can help Aug 04 16:04:52 Chiliblue, I have a 770 myself Aug 04 16:05:00 i got mine yesterday, all ive done is extend the virtual memory Aug 04 16:05:02 Chiliblue, first, have you ever messed with linux? Aug 04 16:05:12 hey, I guess what I need to understand is should I go for the OS2007 Aug 04 16:05:21 yes I have messed a fair amount with linux Aug 04 16:05:29 Chiliblue, I am not going for the OS2007 Aug 04 16:05:32 hack the iopener and the 3com audrey Aug 04 16:05:55 there are some that have, but I don't see a difference, most of the packges out there are OS2006 *and* OS2007 Aug 04 16:06:37 is it much less stable, is there a lot broken in it? SUrely you can downgrade if it doesn't work out Aug 04 16:06:39 Chiliblue, have you ever messed with debian-based linux? Aug 04 16:06:49 yup I have it on my laptop and server Aug 04 16:07:12 Chiliblue, yes, you could always restore, but thats a pain, now you *can* go with IT2007HE (hackers edition) but I don't know how stable that is Aug 04 16:07:36 Chiliblue, I have a sources.list if you want for all the working repos and the non-working repos are commented out, you can always enable them later Aug 04 16:07:52 Chiliblue, some of the non-working just need gpg keys Aug 04 16:07:54 thats what I have, I was just trying to work out how to install it from windows, downloaded the nokia update tool and discovered I needed .net 2.0 to run it Aug 04 16:08:12 oh, I have .net 2.0 on my windows box so I didn't know that Aug 04 16:08:28 does it use apt-get then Aug 04 16:08:36 Chiliblue, I am getting there, haha Aug 04 16:09:00 first, you need to go on maemo.org (this is where open source development goes for the nokia tablets) Aug 04 16:09:09 ok found that Aug 04 16:09:09 let me give you a link Aug 04 16:09:21 got it open in a browser here Aug 04 16:10:42 ok, search for xterm advanced Aug 04 16:10:44 erstazi I only ordered it after I saw it was running linux Aug 04 16:11:07 Chiliblue, you want xterm advanced... because the other xterm is not that great Aug 04 16:11:14 ok Aug 04 16:11:27 can I get tha frim maemo Aug 04 16:11:30 is advanced the one with the toolbar for buttons on the side? Aug 04 16:11:31 Chiliblue, now, you will see some of these packages are .deb packages, but they are built through scratchbox for the ARM arch and not x86 Aug 04 16:11:36 ericz, yes Aug 04 16:11:47 ah, alright Aug 04 16:11:49 Chiliblue, yes you can, maemo is your friend Aug 04 16:12:09 when you get xterm (advanced) up, you will need to install becomeroot Aug 04 16:12:30 now, you are use to debian based.. where you sudo ? well you just do sudo gainroot Aug 04 16:12:32 and you are root Aug 04 16:13:01 then I *suggest* to change your passwords: passwd user (default username) and then passwd root, because the default pass for root is rootme Aug 04 16:13:08 http://maemo.org/downloads/system/ Aug 04 16:13:24 also install openssh and not dropbear, I just hear its easier to install openssh Aug 04 16:13:35 you can ssh to your tablet from your pc Aug 04 16:13:40 really? hrm. is openssh on maemo? Aug 04 16:13:46 and install that way as well, if you... Aug 04 16:13:48 yes ericz Aug 04 16:13:52 ok, should I install os2007 hacked before I start this Aug 04 16:13:53 i've been using dropbear, and i don't tihnk it has as many features Aug 04 16:14:19 after you get all that done, you can use my /etc/apt/sources.list at http://c-wd.net/sources.list Aug 04 16:14:56 Chiliblue, honestly, give this a try, make it a project later on, don't jump right into it... we have guys who dual boot off their rs=mmc card Aug 04 16:15:06 ok Aug 04 16:15:10 so you could *always* do it that way Aug 04 16:15:30 s/rs=mmc/rs-mmc Aug 04 16:15:34 easier anyway, seeing as I don't get how you get this into usb mode :) Aug 04 16:15:39 <|tbb|> anyone using synergy ? Aug 04 16:15:51 Chiliblue, when I ssh, I just use the wifi connection Aug 04 16:16:17 ok Aug 04 16:16:19 the USB is for transfering over to your rs-mmc or updating using the update wizard Aug 04 16:16:29 ok, I typed all that real quick because I got to run to the store Aug 04 16:16:34 np Aug 04 16:16:41 I will be back in 20 unless I get a wifi connection (gizmo is nice too on the 770 Aug 04 16:16:45 i've had my 770 since woot sold them.. and i've yet to take the usb cable out of the box.. never hooked it up to PC.. haven't needed to, heh.. Aug 04 16:30:32 hello fellows Aug 04 16:31:54 hola Aug 04 16:31:55 <_Monkey> salut, tweg Aug 04 16:32:47 bonsoir monkeybot Aug 04 16:34:49 oi _Monkey, my boy! Aug 04 16:37:32 NickServ IDENTIFY k2juju Aug 04 16:38:22 Chili, I guess you need to use /msg NickServ ... , right? Aug 04 16:38:30 :) Aug 04 16:38:36 been a while Aug 04 16:39:01 been doing it all the time =-P Aug 04 16:39:20 forgotten the password Aug 04 16:40:09 lol Aug 04 16:40:21 ooops Aug 04 16:40:54 unless some has become chiliblue in my adsence Aug 04 16:53:39 ok xterm, becomeroot and openssh done and installed Aug 04 16:55:06 actually not done openssh yet, not found right version Aug 04 16:59:45 ok Aug 04 16:59:51 regardless of the pc os Aug 04 17:00:01 it still crashes whenever i try and copy a file using usb Aug 04 17:00:08 is it the device or the cable Aug 04 17:00:13 i flashed my device fine yesterday Aug 04 17:00:44 maybe its your desktop's os Aug 04 17:01:06 file transfer is a very high level function of your desktop OS Aug 04 17:01:07 it crashes vista and mac osx Aug 04 17:01:08 struuggling to find openssh for os2006 Aug 04 17:01:10 and flashing is a more low level Aug 04 17:01:26 well...maybe its your tablet OS then Aug 04 17:01:30 mac osx manages to transfer 24mb before crashing, vista just breaks Aug 04 17:02:20 vista doesnt count ;-P Aug 04 17:02:27 (its not unix) Aug 04 17:04:22 :p Aug 04 17:04:27 should i try flash my device again Aug 04 17:04:37 i havent got anything on there irreplaceable Aug 04 17:04:40 hum Aug 04 17:04:40 not on this cable Aug 04 17:04:51 and on this machine Aug 04 17:04:57 well i dont have another cable Aug 04 17:05:15 actually i might Aug 04 17:05:20 * NeoStrider still has his N-Gage cable ;-) Aug 04 17:05:29 my dads minidisc looks to be the same connector Aug 04 17:05:53 never tried to reflash using other cable Aug 04 17:06:00 but file transfer do works Aug 04 17:06:14 well its 2 pcs ive tried Aug 04 17:06:19 both produce pretty similar errors Aug 04 17:06:33 im at a loss Aug 04 17:10:35 well...I just dont know... Aug 04 17:11:17 found my usb mmc reader Aug 04 17:12:14 which appears to work Aug 04 17:12:44 and is now copying Aug 04 17:12:52 slow as hell unfortunately Aug 04 17:13:10 already at 30 mb Aug 04 17:13:16 so its not the os afaik Aug 04 17:20:38 fuck Aug 04 17:20:40 its stuck in my reader now Aug 04 17:20:43 the end bit came off Aug 04 17:23:12 haha, just popped the casing off never mind Aug 04 17:23:39 remember that the card reader module is not the same from the usb transfer Aug 04 17:24:18 sorry? Aug 04 17:24:28 also, what format do vids need to be in for canola to play them Aug 04 17:39:39 anyone know? Aug 04 18:12:36 Hi ! I got an n800 yesterday and it worked fine. Today i had to to recharge it and it won't charge. When i try to turn it on it just shows the Nokia screen for a second and then turns off again :( any ideas ? Aug 04 18:15:20 not charged enough ? Aug 04 18:16:04 you are supposed tgo be able to charge it while it s turned off. Aug 04 18:16:21 it sort of show that battery charging is going on, and tells you when it s over as well Aug 04 18:16:32 pupnik, cryptographic storage for secrets, like password safe, keepass, etc...I usually use keepass but it uses Qt... Aug 04 18:16:54 <`0660> yeah, it can be really tricky to turn back on if the battery is flat Aug 04 18:17:00 melmoth: the problem is it shows nothing when i plug in the ac - no led lights up nothing happens at all Aug 04 18:17:30 melmoth: and shouldn't i be able to turn it on if it's connected to power despite low battery power ? Aug 04 18:17:40 <`0660> you can try to remove the battery, put it back in and the plug the charger back on Aug 04 18:17:47 that s nor normal, the whole screen says something with a charging icon of some sort when you plug the power (and the n800 is off) Aug 04 18:18:04 looks like the charger is faulty Aug 04 18:18:12 <`0660> no, you cannot turn it on when it's connected before it has enough power Aug 04 18:18:42 <`0660> can take something like 30 minutes or so Aug 04 18:20:05 <`0660> i don't know what happens in the start but it seems to consume power like a microwave oven when it's booting Aug 04 18:21:24 melmoth: :( it worked yesterday - must have broke since then. damn.. Aug 04 18:21:47 <`0660> believe me, it's not broken :) Aug 04 18:25:37 `0660: but i have the ac plugged in for like 40min now and i still can't turn it on Aug 04 18:25:52 it also doesn't show that charging icon or anything.... Aug 04 18:33:29 Where can I find the xserver-kdrive sources for the 770? Aug 04 18:52:46 what format do vids need to be in for canola to play them Aug 04 18:53:45 amr: have you visited the canola web site? Aug 04 18:54:04 amr: i think that you'll find that info there Aug 04 18:54:31 my bad Aug 04 18:56:03 http://openbossa.indt.org/canola Aug 04 18:56:39 grr Aug 04 18:56:39 maemo page: https://garage.maemo.org/projects/canola/ Aug 04 18:56:43 this memory card issue is annoyin Aug 04 18:56:56 why hasn't any one fixed bug 1204 Aug 04 18:56:57 heh Aug 04 18:57:26 it's funny the fsck mentions a problem about a size being quoted too small at 16384 Aug 04 18:57:36 however the pc doesn't say any such thing Aug 04 19:00:28 dont see any recommendations on either site Aug 04 19:11:02 umm Aug 04 19:14:32 amr: this review lists some formats supported by the 770, canola supports all of the same formates as the default 770 media player Aug 04 19:14:46 *formats Aug 04 19:15:29 amr: search for "Supported File Formats" on the page Aug 04 19:29:59 catch22: problems installing on IT2006 due to missing libs, need x terminal to rectify but can't install it... due to missing libs! What to do? Aug 04 19:36:14 is os2k7 worth putting on my 770? o.o Aug 04 19:37:24 working ok for me, but I'm a new 770 user Aug 04 19:38:30 does it do flash? Aug 04 19:38:54 don't know, sry Aug 04 19:43:40 manually install libs?:( Aug 04 19:44:18 strids: same problem as me installing apps with missing libs? Aug 04 19:45:22 strids, you could use either red-pill mode or dpkg -i Aug 04 19:53:24 wipe and restart Aug 04 19:57:06 ok solved my prob by wiping out hacker repositories Aug 04 20:21:31 hi Aug 04 20:21:31 <_Monkey> hola, jcole Aug 04 20:21:47 what is the best way to install Maemo on my hx4700? Aug 04 20:28:22 some maemo developer? Aug 04 20:29:21 heh, trying to use smbrowser is a experience all its own... Aug 04 20:32:04 morning all Aug 04 20:33:15 tso, just installed it and works fine Aug 04 20:33:32 yep, just have to figure that ui out :P Aug 04 20:34:04 - Aug 04 20:34:05 btw, anyone know where to aim that idea desk applet so that i can access my inbox? Aug 04 20:38:36 anyone had the chance to try the webkit browser for N800 and have any idea of how effective it is at managing ajax pages? Aug 04 20:40:11 trevarthan, Aug 04 20:40:11 <_Monkey> trevarthan, is the UKMP using the same pink pixel transparency effect you using? Aug 04 20:40:44 hey unique311. how's that theme coming? Aug 04 20:41:02 I finally figured out the colorkey thing.. Aug 04 20:41:04 yes, _Monkey, UKMP is using the same pink pixel transparency effect. Aug 04 20:41:06 thanks for the email. Aug 04 20:41:12 coolness. Aug 04 20:41:31 :) It wasn't easy or obvious. I had to spend a few hours trying to figure it out myself. Aug 04 20:41:44 i have a theme i'm using right now. Aug 04 20:41:49 i think its cool.. Aug 04 20:42:01 pastel colors i think, not too sure about the green. Aug 04 20:42:10 yeah, I don't like the green. Aug 04 20:42:15 I like the blue though. Aug 04 20:42:22 try yellow instead of green? Aug 04 20:42:28 but i'm going to package up the new xfi, psd, and png files for ya Aug 04 20:42:39 cool. Aug 04 20:42:48 tell me what you think of this one first.. Aug 04 20:43:24 I plan to make a release tomorrow sometime, so try to get it to me by then. I'm not sure if your theme will be the default theme for 1.1, but I definitely want to include it. Aug 04 20:44:16 honestly, I think besides the green color, the only thing I don't like about the blue theme is the A2DP button. Aug 04 20:44:50 bluetooth... Aug 04 20:44:55 I like the icon, but I don't think the highlight, unhighlight thing is very obvious. Maybe a red slash through the icon would work better for an "off" state? Aug 04 20:45:06 yeah. bluetooth/a2dp button. Aug 04 20:45:14 i had that first Aug 04 20:45:16 lol Aug 04 20:45:19 :) Aug 04 20:45:29 did it look good? Aug 04 20:45:32 i had like the little circle around it at the bottom right Aug 04 20:45:45 it did...but i didn't think it stood for off.. Aug 04 20:46:19 yeah. we might need something less glaring.... Aug 04 20:46:21 is the bluetooth in the 770 toggleable? Aug 04 20:46:38 tso: in kagu? that's what we're talking about. Aug 04 20:47:17 sorry, not related. i just wondered. heh, maybe i should bother to read the manual properly :P Aug 04 20:47:40 unique311: what if we made the "off" state of the bluetooth button a grayscale image? Aug 04 20:47:46 on makes it color? Aug 04 20:49:24 yeah Aug 04 20:49:29 that would work. Aug 04 20:49:37 i'll do 2 Aug 04 20:50:17 1 grayscale, and the other with the circle red thingy slash Aug 04 20:50:39 check out the png in the package i just sent you... Aug 04 20:50:44 k. Aug 04 20:51:34 i notice the blank space between the music list, and the album in the lowe right, is used for the scrolling also.. Aug 04 20:51:43 is that a mistake or intentionally Aug 04 21:01:32 unique311: no, your theme highlights a lot of bugs/assumptions in kagu's theme implementation. That's excellent. Makes them easy to fix. Aug 04 21:02:44 not sure thats a bad thing.. Aug 04 21:03:10 keeps my thumb of the music list.. Aug 04 21:04:15 notice also the when you quit, the ok and cancel are inside of a white rectangle. Aug 04 21:04:17