**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Aug 31 02:59:56 2007 Aug 31 04:54:06 should the "subsribe to changes" thing work in the maemo.org wiki? Aug 31 05:19:38 * pupnik points Aug 31 06:37:23 * pupnik wants to port a general midi player to the dsp Aug 31 07:34:26 Morning, all Aug 31 07:34:49 "Life end when you die. But imagination share with others, live forever." - Quan, Final Fantasy IX Aug 31 07:34:52 morning Aug 31 07:34:53 <_Monkey> aloha Aug 31 07:35:54 * Jaffa is at No Fluff, Just Stuff in London. Loads of MacBooks, no other N800s :-(o Aug 31 07:36:21 Neat :) For work or play? Aug 31 07:38:26 Work :-) Aug 31 07:39:05 Lots of people talking about Groovy/Grails, which is very cool. Not sure we'll be able to use it at work though, we've only just convinced them to switch everything to the Java platform. Aug 31 07:40:26 Yesterday my N800 was connected to the free wi-fi all day, with an IM and SSH session open (omostly in soft power-off, admittedly) and the battery was still on 4 bars when I got home. Aug 31 07:40:43 Of course, it'd've probably dropped to 0 very quickly when it did start moving. Aug 31 07:41:39 yeah the power saving is fantastic - i did irc/surfing for many hours on lowest brightness (7+) Aug 31 07:41:45 770 Aug 31 07:52:18 whenever i see Jaffa i think of Ween - Joppa Road - http://www.mp3lyrics.org/w/ween/joppa-road/ Aug 31 07:53:51 * Jaffa 's not heard that one before. Aug 31 07:57:30 ween was two guys who recorded stuff on a 4-track tape around 1991 and got signed by Sony - who released their 4-track stuff on CD Aug 31 07:57:47 strange stuff Aug 31 07:58:51 Is lardman correct that the mic-in / AD converter is only 8-bit? would be nice if the headphone jack could be used for a better microphone input as well Aug 31 08:15:27 pupnik: don't forget to sort ls output Aug 31 08:16:29 note: you can usually do: sort|uniq -c|sort Aug 31 08:16:44 or something like that Aug 31 08:17:07 actually sort|uniq -u is what you want Aug 31 08:20:28 he was trying to compare two directories to see if a theme had missing files - for that sort -u would have been -useless Aug 31 08:33:41 good morning Aug 31 08:36:48 hi AD-N770! Do you want to build a SoundBlaster emulator to run on the DSP? Aug 31 08:38:06 is anyone here working on getting vorbis decoding working through the DSP? Aug 31 08:38:06 pupnik: currently I'm very busy at work and at home, it's really hard find time for personal projects Aug 31 08:38:10 on the 770? Aug 31 08:38:11 <_Monkey> i guess on the 770 is jerky Aug 31 08:38:30 hehe i understand. Sorry to be annoying - it would be fun and cool for dosbox though Aug 31 08:38:54 SB on DSP + dynamic recompilation of X86-ARM could really speed up dosbox Aug 31 08:39:08 good news at my home, we are waiting for a baby Aug 31 08:39:18 congratulations! :) Aug 31 08:39:26 _monkey forget on the 770 Aug 31 08:39:26 <_Monkey> timeless: I forgot on the 770 Aug 31 08:39:38 _monkey on the 770 is Aug 31 08:39:38 <_Monkey> OK, timeless. Aug 31 08:39:53 that means a lot of changes in my family life :) Aug 31 08:40:06 and IRC life Aug 31 08:40:22 * pupnik removes his hat Aug 31 08:40:31 yes all computer related lifes will be affected too :) Aug 31 08:58:07 good morning Aug 31 09:10:05 bon matin Aug 31 09:22:05 can you lookup your n800 device by hostname ??? Aug 31 09:22:16 on a lan network when ip is gotten from dhcp ? Aug 31 09:22:46 just add the n800 address to /etc/hosts or the hosts file on windows Aug 31 09:23:32 for example echo "192.168.0.3 nokia" >> /etc/hosts Aug 31 09:23:35 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.maemo.devel/10436/focus=10490 Aug 31 09:23:41 i onced asked on the mailing list Aug 31 09:23:52 setting the bluetooth name used to work Aug 31 09:23:59 but it's not working anymore since the last os update Aug 31 09:25:00 guardian: some dhcp clients can send name updates to the dns server but dns server in your network should support that. Aug 31 09:26:09 it does since it used to work :) Aug 31 09:26:31 in fact the n800 is the only computer on the lan that has no hostname associated with the ip in the dhcp Aug 31 09:26:51 i wonder what year they added that to dhcp Aug 31 09:28:21 <`0660> it sounds pretty insecure :) Aug 31 09:28:47 <`0660> anyone could pretend to be a certain device Aug 31 09:29:13 pupnuk: rfc 2136 might be the answer .. Aug 31 09:29:18 insecure ? Aug 31 09:29:23 i just want convenience Aug 31 09:29:27 on a private lan Aug 31 09:29:42 ah yes.. the age of innocence.. when they're old enough not to know any better, being insecure is part of the growing process.. Aug 31 09:30:07 or not. Aug 31 09:30:58 what's wrong with publishing the hostname to dhcp ? Aug 31 09:31:16 actually, i think it might be the dhcp server which does the update to dns .. Aug 31 09:31:19 and not the client .. Aug 31 09:31:47 hmm 1997... Aug 31 09:32:02 guardian: can you check your leases file, does it contain any name for n800 lease ? Aug 31 09:32:06 well if the up script does not call udpchp with the -H option no hostname is passed so the dhcp does not forward that to dns Aug 31 09:32:22 yep Aug 31 09:32:29 jani: there is a blank entry for the n800 device Aug 31 09:32:35 for the corresponding ip Aug 31 09:32:54 i'm reading again /etc/udhcpc scripts Aug 31 09:41:05 bonjour Aug 31 09:41:06 <_Monkey> niihau, lardman Aug 31 09:41:50 i dunno man, for a home network, /etc/hosts works reel guud. Aug 31 09:41:53 I'm going to have to perform endianness swapping for pretty much all the data I'm using - i.e. buffer pointers, etc. Aug 31 09:42:38 I wonder if there's some way around it... I can't think of one though Aug 31 09:43:44 did you discover that reading the documentation or looking at existing code lardman? Aug 31 09:44:18 I had thought my wonderful circular buffer code was complete, and then it dawned on me that the DSP and ARM use different endiannesses Aug 31 09:44:45 heh :/ Aug 31 09:44:50 It's in the DSP docs, definitely bigendian Aug 31 09:46:09 lardman: I cleaned up a bit the maemo.org wiki on dspprogramming.. Aug 31 09:46:24 what would be the script that calls udhcpc the first time ? Aug 31 09:46:26 kulve: Great Aug 31 09:46:39 I was thinking that we should add a section on debugging Aug 31 09:47:37 yeah Aug 31 09:57:55 hi all Aug 31 09:59:14 where I can find the maemo_af_desktop debug messages on tablet? my applet freezes only on tablet... Aug 31 10:00:31 how do you get errors on the desktop (sb)? Aug 31 10:01:32 after af-sb-init.sh start it logs on the same shell Aug 31 10:01:56 maybe you can look where maemo_af_desktop gets started (in /etc/init.d ?) and ad add a > /home/user/tmp.txt or 2> ... to the invocation? Aug 31 10:02:13 tnx Aug 31 10:02:50 * Jaffa belatedly congrats AD-770 Aug 31 10:11:17 latzko: did you check /dev/xconsole ? Aug 31 10:12:03 no actually Aug 31 10:14:09 so just cat /dev/xconsole .. it keeps some history too so you might be able to see it even thou errors have allready happened. Aug 31 10:18:46 jani, no such file here Aug 31 10:19:33 ok, maybe its r&d feature. Aug 31 10:20:07 I see Aug 31 10:20:13 thanks Aug 31 10:30:19 i googled but find nothing about installing xconsole on n800 Aug 31 10:32:01 what i meant, xconsole might be a feature that we have in our internal releases. Aug 31 10:32:28 I c Aug 31 10:34:26 should I safely run ./flasher-2.0 --enable-rd-mode ? Aug 31 10:35:25 or is it not enough? Aug 31 10:35:44 Vorbis people, is the vf struct a mix of vorbis and ogg or just ogg? I'd like to separate out the ogg reading so I can send individual packets Aug 31 10:36:02 latzko: That should switch to r&d mode, yes Aug 31 10:38:51 hmm, I suppose it has to be a mix as otherwise there's no way of knowing the packet size... Aug 31 10:40:43 ogg_stream_packetout, just what I'm after Aug 31 10:47:47 lardman: look at arm6 assembly instructions: REV, REV16 and REVSH to deal on endianess at ARM side Aug 31 10:49:44 AD-N770: Thanks, will give them a look Aug 31 10:55:11 why do so many users join #maemo but never chat? Aug 31 10:55:29 because nobody could read that flood ;) Aug 31 10:56:30 hmm. there's no need to log it Aug 31 11:01:40 it's the little gems of wisdom that the logging is good for Aug 31 11:08:38 it's so annoying how long it takes looking at some code to become famililar with it Aug 31 11:08:55 well, I am in r&d mode now but there is no /dev/xconsole either Aug 31 11:10:36 "xconsole might be a feature that we have in our internal releases. " <- emphasis on "in our internal release" =) Aug 31 11:10:42 sorry if i mislead you. Aug 31 11:10:57 ok, np, tnx Aug 31 11:11:05 you need to run the xconsole binary according to google Aug 31 11:13:58 I cant find it. sorry for disturbing you but now I have minimal time to fix my stuff Aug 31 11:15:12 I'd try pupnik's suggestion then Aug 31 11:16:30 is there any other way to find out why my home applet crash? it works perfectly in sbox, x86 target Aug 31 11:16:47 there's also a redirect for stdout+stderr but i keep forgetting it - something like 1&2> out.txt Aug 31 11:17:04 &> iirc Aug 31 11:18:34 you're right! Aug 31 11:18:40 http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html Aug 31 11:19:53 btw #bash on freenode is a good place to get "bashed" for asking silly rtfm questions about bash :) Aug 31 11:26:40 hi, I m newbie , if anybody have time please tell me how can i install glibc 2.4 in scratchbox Aug 31 11:30:32 test__: why do you want to do that? Aug 31 11:31:07 i installed libjpeg to compress image size Aug 31 11:31:59 but when i go to use djpeg then it show me GLIBc 2.4 not found error for that Aug 31 11:32:46 well, I know how to redirect but dunno what :) redirecitng af-startup does not gave me much info Aug 31 11:32:55 test__: You installed it from the wrong place then Aug 31 11:33:32 test__: My N800 running the latest flash image is using libc 2.3.6 Aug 31 11:34:00 test__: surely libjpeg comes pre-installed? Aug 31 11:34:35 no Aug 31 11:35:30 [sbox-SDK_ARMEL: ~] > ls /usr/lib/*jpeg* Aug 31 11:35:33 /usr/lib/libjpeg.a /usr/lib/libjpeg.la /usr/lib/libjpeg.so /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62.0.0 Aug 31 11:35:49 ya i got this prob Aug 31 11:36:40 actually i m newbie please help me Aug 31 11:37:00 What do you want? libjpeg should already be installed Aug 31 11:37:10 what do you want to do with libjpeg? Aug 31 11:38:12 i want to convert a jpeg image to ppm format in target Aug 31 11:39:15 your host system can also read/write to/from directories within scratchbox Aug 31 11:40:25 ya Aug 31 11:41:01 so you could use the pnm/pbm tools from the host OS Aug 31 11:41:50 or-- cjpeg rather Aug 31 11:42:12 or grab this tarball http://www.ijg.org/files/jpegsrc.v6b.tar.gz, run configure, then (probably) make cjpeg Aug 31 11:42:15 well, I know how but I dont know what to redirect. rtfm is good if there is a fucking manual about that.... Aug 31 11:43:02 latzko: Was there no output? Aug 31 11:43:43 latzko: I guess you've removed any &>/dev/null statements in that script too? Aug 31 11:43:44 http://www.ijg.org/files/jpegsrc.v6b.tar.gz not found Aug 31 11:43:57 latzko: are you sure you're not trying to cut-down a tree blocking your way instead of walking around it? Aug 31 11:43:58 minimal , script echo output like starting things and like that Aug 31 11:44:17 http://ijg.org/files/jpegsrc.v6b.tar.gz Aug 31 11:44:22 my apologies Aug 31 11:45:04 no need to be apologies Aug 31 11:45:05 latzko: I fear your question is more one for the Nokia chaps as they know what actually tries to start the applets and where any output would go Aug 31 11:45:24 s/latzko/test__/ Aug 31 11:45:24 pupnik meant: test__: are you sure you're not trying to cut-down a tree blocking your way instead of walking around it? Aug 31 11:45:45 I see Aug 31 11:46:38 no, i don't think so. realy i need help Aug 31 11:46:52 test__: if i need to convert a wav to mp3, i don't do it in scratchbox Aug 31 11:49:04 test__: Download and use this: http://people.bath.ac.uk/enpsgp/nokia770/cjpeg Aug 31 11:49:15 nice Aug 31 11:49:19 test__: It took me a total of 30s to download and compile and upload Aug 31 11:49:54 i have that one Aug 31 11:50:06 also Djpeg Aug 31 11:50:36 yeah, but this one is linked against the right version of glibc Aug 31 11:50:44 ya Aug 31 11:50:55 this is my main prob Aug 31 11:51:08 download the one I just gave the url for and try it Aug 31 11:51:11 test__: follow lardman's instructions :) Aug 31 11:51:28 ya i m following him Aug 31 11:52:38 does it work? Aug 31 11:54:23 ya , ./cjpeg [switches] -outfile jpegfile imagefile. but outside of target Aug 31 11:55:17 ? Aug 31 11:55:30 The file I compiled will only run on ARMEL Aug 31 11:55:56 What target are you trying to use? Aug 31 11:57:32 this situation is a waste of your talents :) Aug 31 11:57:45 * pupnik ducks Aug 31 11:58:29 I like the feeling of satisfaction when a problem is solved :) Aug 31 12:00:15 test__: Does it work? Aug 31 12:04:14 * anderson_s is away reason: simple away Aug 31 12:05:12 i made a deb but after installing it was not showing in the menu of the scratchbox Aug 31 12:06:50 ~lart whoever indented vorbisfile.c Aug 31 12:06:50 * infobot puts on some milking gloves. "All right, now, whoever indented vorbisfile.c, this won't hurt a bit...." Aug 31 12:08:02 * iAmAway is away reason: simple away Aug 31 12:09:41 <`0660> anderson_s_away, are you trying to say that you are not on your computer? Aug 31 12:10:10 * iAmAway is back, was gone: 2 mins 8 secs, reason: simple away Aug 31 12:10:37 * anderson_s is back, was gone: 2 mins 8 secs, reason: simple away Aug 31 12:10:44 good to know Aug 31 12:10:49 * anderson_s is back, was gone: 2 mins 8 secs, reason: simple away Aug 31 12:11:03 * anderson_s is back, was gone: 2 mins 8 secs, reason: simple away Aug 31 12:11:08 <`0660> i missed you already Aug 31 12:11:15 * anderson_s is back, was gone: 2 mins 8 secs, reason: simple away Aug 31 12:11:27 * anderson_s is back, was gone: 2 mins 8 secs, reason: simple away Aug 31 12:11:41 * anderson_s is back, was gone: 2 mins 8 secs, reason: simple away Aug 31 12:11:52 that's getting annoying now Aug 31 12:11:53 * anderson_s is back, was gone: 2 mins 8 secs, reason: simple away Aug 31 12:12:00 yeah Aug 31 12:12:03 sorry. I was testing a plugin, and didn't mean to hit all the servers... Aug 31 12:12:16 <`0660> try disabling that plugin Aug 31 12:12:19 is back messages get annoying Aug 31 12:12:23 <`0660> it's of no use Aug 31 12:12:26 plugin unpluged.. shouldn't be happening nay more Aug 31 12:12:29 might seem fun and games for a week Aug 31 12:14:50 I wonder if vorbisfile.c was attacked by a random indentation script Aug 31 12:15:05 or if it's done on purpose to make the code look more complicated Aug 31 12:16:05 <`0660> heh, indentation scripts don't even need to be random to produce ugly code :) Aug 31 12:17:28 I thought it'd be easy enough to sort out by hand, but spent the last 10min looking to see why I had an extra in the "wrong" place } Aug 31 12:17:39 extra } that should be Aug 31 12:18:32 <`0660> :) Aug 31 12:19:05 i haven't used 'lint' before, but it's supposed to indent automagically Aug 31 12:20:27 the MATLAB editor will automatically sort out an file for you - nice Aug 31 12:20:37 I should find a better editor than gedit Aug 31 12:20:38 lardman__ Thanks Aug 31 12:20:47 test__: It worked then? Aug 31 12:21:01 But i got "/scratchbox/tools/bin/misc_runner: SBOX_CPUTRANSPARENCY_METHOD not set Aug 31 12:21:01 " Aug 31 12:21:06 this error Aug 31 12:21:34 you've not setup scratchbox correctly then Aug 31 12:21:52 I don't know how to fix that, look at the tutorial/docs you followed when you first set it up Aug 31 12:22:40 will i run "/scratchbox/sbin/sbox_ctl start" Aug 31 12:26:48 you also get that error when running an armel binary in a 386 target, iirc Aug 31 12:37:55 ls Aug 31 12:44:39 i got this prob"cjpeg: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by cjpeg) Aug 31 12:44:39 " Aug 31 12:44:50 please any body help me Aug 31 12:45:32 with my version of cjpeg? Aug 31 12:45:58 no i got "/scratchbox/tools/bin/misc_runner: SBOX_CPUTRANSPARENCY_METHOD not set" Aug 31 12:46:08 this prob with this version Aug 31 12:46:19 well that's not the fault of the binary, it's your scratchbox setup Aug 31 12:46:36 of course my fault Aug 31 12:46:36 are you trying to run in ARMEL or x86 mode? Aug 31 12:47:02 the 386 cjpeg was copied in from a more modern linux host, and he's trying to run the armel cjpeg in a 386 target Aug 31 12:47:15 ah Aug 31 12:47:25 actually i install cJpeg in target-86 Aug 31 12:47:31 installed Aug 31 12:47:35 why do you want cjpeg for a 386 target? Aug 31 12:48:39 here all of our team member usually work at [sbox-SDK_X86: ~] > Aug 31 12:48:44 and me also Aug 31 12:49:18 and i need djpeg also Aug 31 12:50:04 did you install libjpeg or just grab the cjpeg/djpeg binaries? Aug 31 12:50:25 because you'll need to uninstall them as they are linked against the wrong version of libc Aug 31 12:50:31 then download the tarball Aug 31 12:50:44 cd into the directory that's created when you uncompress it Aug 31 12:51:00 run: ./configure && make cjpeg && make djpeg Aug 31 12:51:15 and copy the cjpeg and djpeg binaries somewhere like /usr/bin Aug 31 12:51:59 in time of inatallation i wrote /scratchbox/...../terget 86 in configuration file Aug 31 12:52:31 and the ./configure---make Aug 31 12:53:42 I don't understand. You've already built c/djpeg then? Aug 31 12:54:26 ac_default_prefix=/scratchbox/users/opy/targets/SDK_X86 Aug 31 12:54:47 then!!!! Aug 31 12:54:47 <_Monkey> then is not free software, it is not GNU/linux embedded, i refuse to use a phone that has not GNU/linux Aug 31 12:55:03 I'd ignore that completely, just run configure without arguments Aug 31 12:55:25 oh dear, you're not trying to compile outside of scratchbox are you? Aug 31 12:55:34 [sbox-SDK_X86: ~] > cjpeg -quality 10 -outfile TTT.jpg Djpeg1.ppm Aug 31 12:55:34 cjpeg: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by cjpeg) Aug 31 12:56:00 where did that version of cjpeg come from? From a deb, a binary you compiled somewhere? Aug 31 12:56:35 from here "jpeg-6b" Aug 31 12:56:44 you compiled it? Aug 31 12:56:52 ya Aug 31 12:56:56 but you compiled it outside of scratchbox didn't you? Aug 31 12:57:35 you'd not started scratchbox (/scratchbox/login) and were not running it when you compiled Aug 31 12:57:42 ? Aug 31 12:58:03 no Aug 31 12:58:18 scratchbox was not logged in Aug 31 12:58:29 go to the code you used to compile it originally, run "make uninstall" to remove whatever it tried to install Aug 31 12:58:41 ok Aug 31 12:58:58 then login to scratchbox, download the code again and run configure (no argumnets) and make djpeg, etc. Aug 31 12:59:43 I don;t know if you'll have overwritten the scratchbox version of libjpeg, hopefully not, but you may need to reinstall it (dpkg-install ? anyone?) Aug 31 13:03:54 lardman:::dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libjpeg62-dev: Aug 31 13:03:55 libjpeg62-dev depends on libjpeg62 (= 6b-13); however: Aug 31 13:03:55 Version of libjpeg62 on system is 6b-9osso4. Aug 31 13:03:55 dpkg: error processing libjpeg62-dev (--install): Aug 31 13:03:55 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Aug 31 13:03:55 Errors were encountered while processing: Aug 31 13:03:57 libjpeg62-dev Aug 31 13:04:03 pastebin Aug 31 13:04:03 i got this prob Aug 31 13:04:03 <_Monkey> i heard pastebin was slow..... Aug 31 13:04:25 what were you trying to do? Aug 31 13:04:42 fakeroot dpkg -i libjpeg62-dev_6b-13_i386.deb Aug 31 13:04:51 no no no! Aug 31 13:05:00 then Aug 31 13:05:02 ? Aug 31 13:05:03 let it choose where it gets the deb from Aug 31 13:05:15 the repository should already be setup Aug 31 13:05:24 ok Aug 31 13:05:50 are you missing the libjpeg* files? Aug 31 13:05:56 is there any point in installing them? Aug 31 13:06:27 again i got "[sbox-SDK_X86: ~] > fakeroot apt-get install libjpeg62-dev_6b-13_i386.deb Aug 31 13:06:27 Reading Package Lists... Done Aug 31 13:06:27 Building Dependency Tree... Done Aug 31 13:06:27 E: Couldn't find package libjpeg62-dev_6b-13_i386.deb Aug 31 13:06:27 " Aug 31 13:06:31 inside scratchbox (ie. after you've logged in) see if "ls /usr/lib/*jpeg*" shows anything) Aug 31 13:06:51 test__: Use pastbin.com for large amounts of text. Aug 31 13:06:57 pastebin.com even Aug 31 13:07:23 ls: /usr/lib/*jpeg: No such file or directory Aug 31 13:07:43 ok, so you did screw it up, fair enough Aug 31 13:07:51 it will think that libjpeg is still installed Aug 31 13:08:01 you may need to force the install, not sure how Aug 31 13:08:12 ok Aug 31 13:08:13 try: "fakeroot apt-get install libjpeg" Aug 31 13:08:44 i got "[sbox-SDK_X86: ~] > fakeroot apt-get install libjpeg Aug 31 13:08:44 Reading Package Lists... Done Aug 31 13:08:44 Building Dependency Tree... Done Aug 31 13:08:44 E: Couldn't find package libjpeg Aug 31 13:08:44 " Aug 31 13:09:34 Can someone else chip in here? I know nothing about apt-get Aug 31 13:09:59 here is now 7.12 pm Aug 31 13:10:00 test__: Ah, perhaps it's called "jpeg" rather than "libjpeg" Aug 31 13:10:54 no its not Aug 31 13:12:02 lardman: apt-cache search jpeg Aug 31 13:12:20 cosmo: Thanks Aug 31 13:12:23 test__: try that Aug 31 13:12:37 ya Aug 31 13:13:05 i got "[sbox-SDK_X86: ~] > apt-cache search jpeg Aug 31 13:13:06 libjpeg62 - The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG runtime library Aug 31 13:13:06 libjpeg62-dev - Development files for the IJG JPEG library Aug 31 13:13:06 " Aug 31 13:13:24 fakeroot apt-get install libjpeg62-dev Aug 31 13:13:27 i need libjpeg62-de Aug 31 13:14:05 i got Reading Package Lists... Done Aug 31 13:14:05 Building Dependency Tree... Done Aug 31 13:14:05 libjpeg62-dev is already the newest version. Aug 31 13:14:05 You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: Aug 31 13:14:05 The following packages have unmet dependencies: Aug 31 13:14:06 libjpeg62-dev: Depends: libjpeg62 (= 6b-13) but 6b-9osso4 is to be installed Aug 31 13:14:08 E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). Aug 31 13:14:18 i tried -f Aug 31 13:14:44 did you install libjpeg62-dev from elsewhere? Aug 31 13:14:59 you might want to remove that first as it's not a maemo version Aug 31 13:15:15 ya , by clicking outside of scratch box Aug 31 13:15:23 on the package Aug 31 13:15:30 that's not related Aug 31 13:15:44 you must have tried installing it inside scratchjbox too Aug 31 13:15:55 ya Aug 31 13:16:01 but can't Aug 31 13:16:02 so apt-get remove it Aug 31 13:16:10 ok Aug 31 13:17:11 i got it "[sbox-SDK_X86: ~] > fakeroot apt-get -f remove libjpeg62-dev Aug 31 13:17:11 Reading Package Lists... Done Aug 31 13:17:11 Building Dependency Tree... Done Aug 31 13:17:11 You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: Aug 31 13:17:11 The following packages have unmet dependencies: Aug 31 13:17:12 libmatchbox-dev: Depends: libjpeg62-dev but it is not going to be installed Aug 31 13:17:14 osso-af-base-dev: Depends: libjpeg62-dev but it is not going to be installed Aug 31 13:17:14 <_Monkey> i already had it that way, test__. Aug 31 13:17:18 E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). Aug 31 13:17:20 [sbox-SDK_X86: ~] > fakeroot apt-get remove libjpeg62-dev Aug 31 13:17:22 Reading Package Lists... Done Aug 31 13:17:24 Building Dependency Tree... Done Aug 31 13:17:24 okay Aug 31 13:17:26 You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: Aug 31 13:17:26 stop Aug 31 13:17:28 The following packages have unmet dependencies: Aug 31 13:17:29 use pastebin! Aug 31 13:17:30 libmatchbox-dev: Depends: libjpeg62-dev but it is not going to be installed Aug 31 13:17:30 <_Monkey> i already had it that way, test__. Aug 31 13:17:32 osso-af-base-dev: Depends: libjpeg62-dev but it is not going to be installed Aug 31 13:17:32 <_Monkey> i already had it that way, test__. Aug 31 13:17:34 E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). Aug 31 13:17:36 " Aug 31 13:17:47 Use pastebin next time please Aug 31 13:17:53 ~pastebin Aug 31 13:17:53 i heard pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or http://rafb.net/paste/, or http://pastebin.com is usually painfully too slow and unresponsive to use, use one of the other pastebin sites, or dpaste.com is a very nice pastebin as well Aug 31 13:18:18 ok thanks alot lardman Aug 31 13:18:34 thank you very much for helping me Aug 31 13:18:38 test__: Your apt thinks you have the packages installed, unfortuntely the actual binaries have been removed Aug 31 13:18:56 test__: I don;t know if there;s some kind of overwrite flag on apt-get Aug 31 13:19:16 test__: but you somehow need to get the maemo versions of libjpeg and -dev installed Aug 31 13:19:22 I've no idea how to do this Aug 31 13:20:01 you spent a lot of time , thanks for that Aug 31 13:20:09 i will try Aug 31 13:20:10 np, good luck Aug 31 13:20:19 sure Aug 31 13:32:08 derf: Are you about? Aug 31 13:34:53 or anyone else with knowledge of vorbis internals? Aug 31 13:35:05 lardman: Yes. Aug 31 13:35:42 can I pick your brain please? Aug 31 13:36:14 vf->ready_state to be exact, and whether there's some documentation on the meanings of the various values somewhere? Aug 31 13:37:43 I'm guessing that INITSET is the last step, i.e. everything is setup, but am wondering what the difference is between that and STREAMSET? Aug 31 13:37:53 and OPENED for that matter Aug 31 13:43:22 STREAMSET means it has initialized the comment and info structures (and thus needs to clear them at some point). Aug 31 13:43:48 okay Aug 31 13:44:06 LINKSET means it's done that for the current link in a chained file. Aug 31 13:44:42 (if you're STREAMSET, but not LINKSET, then you need to clear the existing header info, find the headers for the current link, and then initialize those) Aug 31 13:44:58 okay Aug 31 13:45:08 and INITSET vs OPENED? Aug 31 13:45:25 And then INITSET is LINKSET plus it has initialized a decoder. Aug 31 13:46:12 to go from OPENED to INITSET it needs to read in the header from the looks of it Aug 31 13:46:40 * CardinalFang is thrilled to see "maemo" and "Vorbis" on the same screen. "Please say whatever you're making is for the 770. Ohpleaseohplease." Aug 31 13:46:46 Or perhaps that's the other way, it falls back to OPENED Aug 31 13:46:57 CardinalFang: N800 in the first instance Aug 31 13:47:07 Dang. Aug 31 13:47:28 CardinalFang: But the code is generic, just that I could never get the DSP to behave on the 770 Aug 31 13:48:07 That's where the action is, for a nicely-behaving decoder, yes? The DSP? Aug 31 13:48:29 It's a little project of mine Aug 31 13:48:57 derf: The header is 3 pages long. Is that always the case? Aug 31 13:49:08 * lardman wades through vorbisfile.c Aug 31 13:49:39 ah 3 packets long Aug 31 13:56:43 lardman: Anyway, in general, the only documentation of the code is the source. Aug 31 13:57:10 We always tell people, "Feel free to write some, we'll accept patches," but no one ever does. Aug 31 13:58:35 That's fair enough, I was just after a pointer Aug 31 13:58:42 and you've given me one Aug 31 13:59:22 I'm trying to work out how to separate out the ogg page -> packet decoding to the ARM side, so I can send single packets to the DSP side for decoding Aug 31 13:59:52 it's not helped by the multitude of places where new packets are read from Aug 31 14:09:38 anyone know anything about the webkit browser for the n800? Aug 31 14:10:49 no, but i'm mildly intrested Aug 31 14:11:03 anyone knows if we could have a STABLE browser on 770 one day :) ? Aug 31 14:11:23 dunno, the default is quite stable compared to webkit on s60 Aug 31 14:11:24 :) Aug 31 14:12:31 opera on my N73 doesn't crash so often ;) Aug 31 14:12:42 or better... never crashed to me Aug 31 14:17:25 yeah s60 opera has become quite good Aug 31 14:17:29 and opera mini too.. Aug 31 14:17:45 much more better in the memory management side Aug 31 14:28:59 do they have the same funcitonality as microb? Aug 31 14:32:10 lardman: did you notice that some body asked about "DSP/ARM shared memory test on N800" on dsp gw list Aug 31 14:32:31 microb is even more unstable than opera :( Aug 31 14:32:31 No, I've not been following it lately Aug 31 14:32:34 (at least for me) Aug 31 14:32:41 kulve: I'll take a look now Aug 31 14:33:30 odd the mailing list is so hard to find from the dsp gateway page Aug 31 14:34:41 ry? Aug 31 14:34:44 andy? Aug 31 14:34:51 do you have specific pages that crash the browser? Aug 31 14:35:00 and if you disable flash, do you still have pages that crash the browser? Aug 31 14:35:03 :) I didn't notice there was an existing shared memory test, oops, might have saved myself some work :D Aug 31 14:35:58