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Sep 08 04:07:16 <jaek> hey guys, i'm using the media streamer program
Sep 08 04:07:29 <jaek> 4:3 videos play, but non standard ratio videos dont play
Sep 08 04:07:44 <jaek> anyone have experience with this?
Sep 08 04:09:50 <jaek> i know it isnt a codec issue cus it plays files using the same codecs but the only difference is the resolutions
Sep 08 05:07:28 <bedboi> hi all
Sep 08 08:32:03 <konttori> Please read my blog and have a look at the UKMP 1.7 concept image.
Sep 08 08:32:03 <konttori> http://konttoristhoughts.blogspot.com/2007/09/urho-konttori-has-started-working-for.html
Sep 08 08:32:04 <konttori> Comments would be really welcome at this stage before I start any coding.
Sep 08 08:36:40 * pupnik passes sardines around the room
Sep 08 08:36:46 <pupnik> will do konttori
Sep 08 08:37:05 <konttori> thanks!
Sep 08 08:37:28 <pupnik> congratulations on the job!
Sep 08 08:37:33 <konttori> oh, thanks!
Sep 08 08:37:49 <pupnik> What is your position?
Sep 08 08:38:02 <konttori> leading part of the data management
Sep 08 08:38:24 <konttori> it's part programming lead, part project manager.
Sep 08 08:38:31 <konttori> We'll see how it develops.
Sep 08 08:39:55 <pupnik> layout looks great imo.
Sep 08 08:39:55 <konttori> at the moment it's the "feeling really confused about everything" - position. - No, really, I'm getting the hang of it, but there's a steep learning curve too get adjusted to the workings of a big and well organized company.
Sep 08 08:40:02 <konttori> ahh. thanks.
Sep 08 08:40:21 <pupnik> for some applications, it is preferable to have control elements on the bottom, so the hand does not obscure the screen
Sep 08 08:40:32 <pupnik> i don't think this applies for ukmo though
Sep 08 08:40:40 <pupnik> ukmp
Sep 08 08:40:55 <konttori> true enough. I'll test that interface on the device. (as a still image) and see how it 'feels' like
Sep 08 08:41:53 <pupnik> it would best if you had a hardcore ukmp user for feedback - did you post on the ITT forums?
Sep 08 08:42:02 <konttori> I did. yeah.
Sep 08 08:42:18 <konttori> It's just that the feedback takes at least 2 days to be fruitfull.
Sep 08 08:42:27 <pupnik> yes
Sep 08 08:42:38 <konttori> So that all the active parties have been to the forums.
Sep 08 08:42:55 <konttori> And it's also really important to keep the discussion on the front page for all that time.
Sep 08 08:43:14 <konttori> so it's quite hard work to get good feedback from there.
Sep 08 08:43:34 <pupnik> you are finnish?
Sep 08 08:43:38 <pupnik> *speak
Sep 08 08:44:11 <konttori> yeah
Sep 08 08:45:02 <konttori> Although at work english is the official language.
Sep 08 08:45:12 <konttori> So it doesn't really matter that much.
Sep 08 08:49:19 <konttori> Hey punik: Haven't you been doing all those emulators?
Sep 08 08:49:36 <konttori> Really good stuff. Did you make the nintendo emu?
Sep 08 08:50:34 <pupnik> i didn't *make* anything yet, except for a simple sdl game
Sep 08 08:50:54 <konttori> well, port
Sep 08 08:50:56 <pupnik> thanks... there are cooler things coming up
Sep 08 08:50:58 <pupnik> yes
Sep 08 08:51:13 <konttori> Did you already fix the flickering bug in the nes emu?
Sep 08 08:51:25 <konttori> It seemed really cool, except for the flickering.
Sep 08 08:51:44 <pupnik> fceu?  it runs slowly here without flickering
Sep 08 08:51:51 <konttori> yeah. fceu
Sep 08 08:52:43 <pupnik> I will port a full-speed NES emulator
Sep 08 08:52:51 <konttori> In my device (n800) it scales the screen every time I tap on the screen.
Sep 08 08:52:54 <pupnik> And an almost full-speed SNES emulator
Sep 08 08:53:04 <pupnik> ahh do you have a cursor enabled for synergy?
Sep 08 08:53:04 <konttori> And then when I lift my finger, it goes to normal mode.
Sep 08 08:53:12 <konttori> nope?
Sep 08 08:53:20 <konttori> nope
Sep 08 08:53:24 <pupnik> ok then this is a new bug
Sep 08 08:53:38 <konttori> you have almost full speed snes?
Sep 08 08:53:39 <pupnik> unfortunately the maintainer (tak) is very busy right now
Sep 08 08:53:43 <konttori> great stuff!
Sep 08 08:53:52 <pupnik> no, but it is coming
Sep 08 08:54:12 <konttori> Yeah, the flickering seems like a really small bug to fix. It happens on the latest firmware on n800.
Sep 08 08:54:41 <konttori> I love fceu in that it plays also music.
Sep 08 08:54:58 <pupnik> ok the flickering:  the game display screen flickers to 1/2 size and displays briefly to the center-upper-left corner?
Sep 08 08:55:11 <pupnik> is that correct?
Sep 08 08:55:15 <konttori> Hey, I just realized some time ago that if you omit the dpad middle button and allow user to keep it constantly pressed down, the dpad actually seems to work pretty well.
Sep 08 08:55:43 <konttori> yeah. When I press the screen, it will scale the image to 2x size.
Sep 08 08:55:43 <pupnik> yes, that center button is part of the problem
Sep 08 08:55:55 <pupnik> ok this is strange
Sep 08 08:56:15 <pupnik> when fceu runs normally, does the game window take up the full screen height?
Sep 08 08:56:19 <konttori> And also, on start (from xmame). It does not drat the right side buttons.
Sep 08 08:56:44 <konttori> However, if I lock the screen and then unlock it, after that the buttons are visible.
Sep 08 08:56:53 <pupnik> heh
Sep 08 08:57:16 <pupnik> when you say 2x, does this mean the image is temporarily twice as large as it should be?
Sep 08 08:57:24 <konttori> Also, initially the emu does not have black background, but instead, xmame is visible in the background. After lock/unlock. background is black again.
Sep 08 08:57:29 <konttori> yeah, that's what I mean.
Sep 08 08:57:38 <konttori> It's scaled 2x until I lift my finger.
Sep 08 08:57:49 <pupnik> that is something i've never seen before.  very interesting.
Sep 08 08:58:09 <konttori> do you have n800?
Sep 08 08:58:14 <pupnik> no just 770
Sep 08 08:58:46 <pupnik> i am optimizing things to run fast enough on 770, then 800 is guaranteed ok.
Sep 08 08:58:59 <konttori> Good idea.
Sep 08 08:59:05 <salty-horse> can anyone please explain what the Hildon Input Method is? all the information I can find about it is technical, and doesn't explain the basic purpose of it
Sep 08 09:01:35 <pupnik> purpose is to provide keyboard input to hildon apps?
Sep 08 09:02:48 <salty-horse> is it just an on-screen keyboard? nothing special about it?
Sep 08 09:03:37 <pupnik> i don't way to say anything inaccurate
Sep 08 09:04:26 <pupnik> I think it also handles the thumbboard and handwriting recognition
Sep 08 09:05:49 <pupnik>  and it also handles activating the virtual input when you tap on an input field
Sep 08 09:07:35 <konttori> Yeah. And I think that the instructions are there to help community to build alternative input methods.
Sep 08 09:08:32 <konttori> I guess it's there for non-latin alphabets as well as for research use (for really different input methods)
Sep 08 09:08:43 <konttori> But I really don't know anything more about it
Sep 08 09:11:00 <salty-horse> I initially thought it was a new magical input method that didn't have patents :)
Sep 08 09:16:47 <konttori> well, I think that you can build your unpatented input method using that framework
Sep 08 09:17:00 <pupnik> it is distinct from X input method.  for e.g. an X virtual keyboard works with SDL apps, but the hildon does not.
Sep 08 09:17:38 <pupnik> unless your sdl app contains code to handle the hildon input method
Sep 08 09:21:13 <rev> how much of a pain is that?
Sep 08 09:21:29 <rev> is there any easyish way to use hildon input via a non gtk app yet?
Sep 08 09:22:29 <derf> I thought that's what the new documentation was for.
Sep 08 09:22:46 * rev isn't sure what new documentation there is
Sep 08 09:22:56 <derf> Me neither.
Sep 08 09:23:15 <rev> ah. i see. i think.
Sep 08 09:26:06 <konttori> I added another alternative to the interface screenshot. It moves the toolbar from top to bottom. Can you pupnik (and others) have a look and comment if it should be at the top or at the bottom: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=74172#post74172
Sep 08 09:27:51 <pupnik> how do you handle the different resolution in fullscreen/windowed?
Sep 08 09:28:23 <pupnik> if the control buttons will get pushed off when at bottom, then it might just be simplest to have them on top
Sep 08 09:28:41 <pupnik> until you get around to scaling the album cover preview for both resolutions, that is :)
Sep 08 09:30:17 <konttori> Yeah, well, the scaled versions would need to have alternative scaled image. This would result in twice the memory consumption.
Sep 08 09:30:26 <konttori> and that is bad (tm) ;)
Sep 08 09:30:38 <pupnik> oh dear!  nevermind then
Sep 08 09:32:49 <konttori> I mean, scaling all the albums on the flu would take too long in the switch between fullscreen and normal modes. And thus it would have to be converted on the startup.
Sep 08 09:33:25 <konttori> the sop is indeed better, but the bottom one does look better. Kinda hard decision to make.
Sep 08 09:34:50 <pupnik> when scrolling through album covers, one uses tap-and-drag on the album window, right?
Sep 08 09:35:50 <pupnik> i mean, unless the top controls really obscure needed data, i'd leave them
Sep 08 09:36:04 <pupnik> or heck, make it a user settings preference :P
Sep 08 09:44:55 <konttori> I think I'll go with the top controls for now. Unless I get solid reasons for the opposite from the forums.
Sep 08 10:32:44 <keesj> apt-get -d install  libreadline4
Sep 08 10:32:52 <keesj> libreadline4 is already the newest version.
Sep 08 10:32:56 <keesj> GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Sep 08 11:12:47 <pupnik> Eric Boehlert, senior fellow at Media Matters for America and author of Lapdogs: How the Press Rolled Over for Bush, discusses the American TV and print media\u2019s abandonment of the Iraq war story despite the fact that it remains the topic Americans are most interested in.
Sep 08 11:12:52 <pupnik> oop
Sep 08 12:14:10 <disq> morning (well, ugt)
Sep 08 12:34:52 <Blacksito> buenos dias
Sep 08 14:17:34 * pupnik is setting up n800 to be a remote control for television pvr :)
Sep 08 14:17:38 <pupnik> n770 i mean
Sep 08 14:25:14 <Blacksitox> re
Sep 08 14:26:38 <Blacksitox> dew
Sep 08 15:10:10 <toed> is it not possible to put symlinks on the memory card?
Sep 08 15:12:42 <pupnik> fat filesystem can not do symlinks - but you can symlink from / to the memory card
Sep 08 15:13:07 <toed> how do you mean?
Sep 08 15:13:30 <pupnik> for e.g. ln -s /media/mmc1/games/share/biggame /usr/share/biggame
Sep 08 15:14:11 <pupnik> a symbolic link from* the jffs or ext filesystme TO the memory card fat filesystem works fine
Sep 08 15:14:18 <toed> oh okay
Sep 08 15:14:23 <toed> but I wanted the other way :p
Sep 08 15:14:55 <pupnik> think about that - are you sure?
Sep 08 15:15:20 <toed> maybe you have a better idea: I've got an sshfs mount and I want to access it from the fancy media players
Sep 08 15:15:25 <toed> that only seem to look on the memory card
Sep 08 15:15:50 <pupnik> i see.
Sep 08 15:16:24 <pupnik> definitely something to give feedback to konttori (ukmp) and the other authors about
Sep 08 15:16:36 <pupnik> what media player?
Sep 08 15:16:42 <toed> ukmp, precisely
Sep 08 15:17:52 <toed> also is there a way to go to an arbitrary directory with the plain old file manager?
Sep 08 15:18:14 <pupnik> he was around earlier today - he is going to do some work on it this weekend - please see the recent thread on internettablettalk.com forums
Sep 08 15:18:26 <pupnik> i don't know - that annoys me too - but i don't use it much
Sep 08 15:18:44 <pupnik> you might be able to get that feature in by monday
Sep 08 15:18:49 <toed> what do you use instead?
Sep 08 15:18:56 <toed> alright
Sep 08 15:18:58 <pupnik> the shell and a keyboard
Sep 08 15:20:09 <pupnik> http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=74172#post74172
Sep 08 15:20:27 <pupnik> http://konttoristhoughts.blogspot.com/2007/09/urho-konttori-has-started-working-for.html
Sep 08 15:21:03 <toed> okay, thanks
Sep 08 15:37:31 * Nermal has just bought an n800 :D
Sep 08 15:37:51 <Nermal> *bounce*
Sep 08 15:42:09 <skler`> :D
Sep 08 15:45:05 <Nermal> after my 770 order was cancelled because they couldn't get hold of any
Sep 08 15:45:14 <Nermal> £150 off ebay :)
Sep 08 15:45:55 <pupnik> nice Nermal :)
Sep 08 15:46:05 <pupnik> graaargh
Sep 08 15:46:26 <pupnik> great score
Sep 08 15:46:29 <Nermal> after years of wanting one - my last linux device was an ipaq 3630
Sep 08 15:46:42 <Nermal> which had 16mb of storage and 32mb of ram :)
Sep 08 15:47:24 <Nermal> I've still got a CRT and my shoes need replacing, but I have an n800 :D
Sep 08 15:47:51 <pupnik> good priorities.  where have i seen the Nick nermal before... - kanotix?
Sep 08 15:48:05 <Nermal> dunno - been on freenode for 8 years now :|
Sep 08 15:48:11 <Nermal> I'm on oftc too
Sep 08 15:48:14 <pupnik> ok then :)
Sep 08 15:48:22 <Nermal> :)
Sep 08 15:48:53 <pupnik> you can help port fun software to it?
Sep 08 15:49:36 <Nermal> hopefully :)
Sep 08 15:49:49 <Nermal> wonder if bluefish would be a good candidate
Sep 08 15:50:00 <Nermal> a nice code editor would be good
Sep 08 15:50:32 <pupnik> if it needs menu support, then you want to look at gtk2 programs
Sep 08 15:50:47 <pupnik> i use vim atm
Sep 08 15:51:33 <Nermal> ah.. nice
Sep 08 15:52:10 <pupnik> i just am doing sdl games/emus atm
Sep 08 15:52:30 <pupnik> http://pupnik.de/software.html is the WIP page
Sep 08 15:52:34 <Nermal> nice :)
Sep 08 15:52:59 <Nermal> woo dosbox - commander keen :D
Sep 08 15:54:22 <pupnik> yeah 0.70 had too many bugs - 0.65 gives about 4.77-12mhz PC performance depending on many factors
Sep 08 15:57:02 <Nermal> :D
Sep 08 15:57:24 <Nermal> does bb run ? :)
Sep 08 15:57:32 <pupnik> bb?
Sep 08 15:58:08 <`0660> big brother
Sep 08 15:58:10 <Nermal> it's an aalib demonstration program - quite leet
Sep 08 15:58:24 <Nermal> apt-get install bb if you're using ubuntu
Sep 08 16:00:08 <pupnik> whoah
Sep 08 16:01:41 <pupnik> handles term resizing too
Sep 08 16:03:23 <Nermal> cool eh ? :)
Sep 08 16:03:55 <pupnik> mine is all black/white -
Sep 08 16:04:01 <Nermal> aye
Sep 08 16:04:43 <pupnik> ok this must be ported
Sep 08 16:06:28 <konttori> Umm... The easiest way for now is for you to change the code of ukmp.
Sep 08 16:06:37 <konttori> Just open the ukmp in leafpad.
Sep 08 16:06:55 <pupnik> toed: you there?
Sep 08 16:07:01 <konttori> search for /Volumes/OSX/iTunes
Sep 08 16:07:24 <konttori> Add your sshmount to the list.
Sep 08 16:07:50 <konttori> Save MediaCenter file. (oh, forgot to mention that the file is /usr/bin/MediaCenter)
Sep 08 16:08:34 <konttori> (and you need to open it from xterm as root) (sudo gainroot . then leafpad /usr/bin/MediaCenter)
Sep 08 16:14:07 <lnx^> heya
Sep 08 16:14:17 <lnx^> where can i find my nokia n800's serial number?
Sep 08 16:16:48 <lnx^> or does it even have one?
Sep 08 16:17:10 <pupnik> on 770 it's in battery compartment i think - also somewhere in settings menu
Sep 08 16:17:18 <pupnik> google should know
Sep 08 16:18:33 <lnx^> i can only find the bt and wlan codes in those places and nothing on google :-/
Sep 08 16:20:07 <pupnik> Both the retail and development rom images require you to locate your serial number.
Sep 08 16:20:10 <pupnik> http://m770cias.garage.maemo.org/images/flasher/MAC_address.png
Sep 08 16:20:13 <pupnik> The serial number is also the Ethernet Media Access Control, MAC, address. Both the WAN MAC address and the BlueTooth address are located on the original box that the 770 came in or inside the battery compartment.
Sep 08 16:20:17 <pupnik> http://maemo.org/community/wiki/Flasher_tool_usage
Sep 08 16:20:36 <lnx^> cheers!
Sep 08 16:21:22 <pupnik> sorry i don't have a n800 specific link
Sep 08 16:22:13 <lnx^> so my wlan address is my serial number?
Sep 08 16:23:03 <Nermal> uhhh
Sep 08 16:23:28 <lnx^> or what is it in this pic: http://m770cias.garage.maemo.org/images/flasher/MAC_address.png
Sep 08 16:23:47 <lnx^> the 'Code'?
Sep 08 16:39:26 <lnx^> or which of those might it be? sorry for the dumb questions, i just need it to send it to the police
Sep 08 17:10:33 <trevarthan> hey, does garage have a wiki?
Sep 08 17:22:30 <disq> ooh trev
Sep 08 17:22:31 <disq> :P
Sep 08 17:34:31 <lnx^> so what serial number should i report to my insurance company on my n800, just the wlan mac address..??
Sep 08 17:47:41 <Blacksitox> brb
Sep 08 17:58:28 <trevarthan> kagu?
Sep 08 17:58:28 <_Monkey> kagu is http://maemo.org/downloads/product/kagu
Sep 08 17:58:37 <trevarthan> kagu is also #kagu
Sep 08 17:58:38 <_Monkey> okay, trevarthan.
Sep 08 17:58:41 <trevarthan> kagu?
Sep 08 17:58:41 <_Monkey> kagu is, like, http://maemo.org/downloads/product/kagu or #kagu
Sep 08 17:58:47 <trevarthan> yay!
Sep 08 17:58:54 <trevarthan> come to our IRC channel!
Sep 08 17:59:03 <disq> _Monkey: like? valspeak? :)
Sep 08 17:59:04 <_Monkey> disq: huh?
Sep 08 17:59:13 <disq> _Monkey: totally.
Sep 08 17:59:14 <_Monkey> disq: excuse me?
Sep 08 18:05:16 <DiZEL> Hi. What codecs should I specify on Asterisk for Telepathy-SofiaSIP?
Sep 08 18:22:08 <pupnik> valgrind (ahem)
Sep 08 18:22:20 <celesteh> hi all
Sep 08 18:22:26 <pupnik> hi celesteh
Sep 08 18:22:36 <pupnik> i'd like a 770 view onto my existing X desktop
Sep 08 18:22:40 <celesteh> so, i enabled red pill mode and all was good and i was very happy with the beta browser
Sep 08 18:22:43 <pupnik> not start a new X session on this computer
Sep 08 18:22:57 <celesteh> and then, gaim hung and i rebooted
Sep 08 18:23:49 <celesteh> and the screen says "nokia" and the progress bar progresses, but then the screen stops changing, even as it plays the nokia chime and eventually makes the sounds it should make while running (clicking when screen touched, etc)
Sep 08 18:24:03 <celesteh> so must i reflash my n800, or is there some magic fix?
Sep 08 18:24:21 <celesteh> (kids: let this be a lesson to you.  always backup before going to red pill)
Sep 08 18:24:47 <pupnik> i've never enabled red pill mode - it is unnecessary
Sep 08 18:25:11 <celesteh> it's more fun, i think.  the mozilla-based browser is way, way better
Sep 08 18:25:25 <celesteh> also, i like ot fancy myself a hacker
Sep 08 18:25:30 <pupnik> you don't need red pill to install that
Sep 08 18:25:32 <celesteh> s/ot/to
Sep 08 18:25:41 <pupnik> can you name anything that requires red pill mode?
Sep 08 18:26:02 <celesteh> the list of things to install got much, much longer when i went red pill
Sep 08 18:26:20 <celesteh> the application manager sudden listed some java stuff and this new browser, etc etc etc
Sep 08 18:26:23 <pupnik> from application manager?
Sep 08 18:26:28 <pupnik> ah
Sep 08 18:26:39 <celesteh> i'm lazy.  i like the application manager
Sep 08 18:26:45 <pupnik> i didn't realize that - thanks
Sep 08 18:26:53 <celesteh> of course, it's suboptimal that i seem to have broken something
Sep 08 18:27:40 <DiZEL> Application manager removes deb-files after each operation. How to tell it not to remove the files?
Sep 08 18:28:33 <celesteh> this all happened just as i was about to order pizza via the internets :(
Sep 08 18:29:28 <celesteh> (well, actually, maybe sushi instead.  is it a bad idea to get sushi delivered?)
Sep 08 18:31:09 <pupnik> interesting, where did i get restore-dpkg-status.sh from...
Sep 08 18:31:21 <pupnik> DiZEL: no idea - you can download them from xterm if you want
Sep 08 18:36:31 <toed> pupnik: I'm there now
Sep 08 18:36:52 <celesteh> eh, so sushi aside, i have to reflash, don't i?
Sep 08 18:36:57 <pupnik> did you see the instructions toed ?
Sep 08 18:37:15 <pupnik> celesteh yes
Sep 08 18:37:53 <toed> where?
Sep 08 18:38:02 <celesteh> bummer.  thanks pupnik
Sep 08 18:41:50 <pupnik> in this channel
Sep 08 18:42:13 <toed> no I guess I missed it
Sep 08 18:44:15 <pupnik> did you get my private message, toed?
Sep 08 18:44:30 <toed> got it, thanks
Sep 08 18:45:00 <toed> seems easy enough to do, I'll have a look later
Sep 08 18:47:25 <pupnik> yw
Sep 08 19:04:40 <pupnik> vncviewer on 770 is such a *joy*
Sep 08 19:14:30 <CardinalFang> That new OS for the 770 makes it possible to install Skype, but it wigs out with "Binary corrupted (o)" 30 seconds into running.  :\
Sep 08 19:15:01 <CardinalFang> Probably some machine-specific copy/crack protection, you think?
Sep 08 19:15:53 <pupnik> skype isn't warez
Sep 08 19:16:15 <CardinalFang> But it's proprietary and they go out of their way to hide how it works, silly.
Sep 08 19:16:23 <celesteh> hahaha
Sep 08 19:16:48 <pupnik> have you gotten it to work at all?
Sep 08 19:17:12 <pupnik> i'm curious about the echo/feedback cancellation
Sep 08 19:17:13 <CardinalFang> (There's a rumor that some russians have it 90% reimplemented.)
Sep 08 19:18:01 <pupnik> mm... well i'll bbl
Sep 08 19:18:08 <CardinalFang> pupnik, No, I haven't seen it working at all.  It's supposed to be for the N800 only.  I have a 770 + yesterday's new OS.
Sep 08 19:58:30 <pupnik> ping
Sep 08 19:59:35 <disq> pong
Sep 08 20:00:10 <pupnik> ty
Sep 08 20:39:56 <setite> hey guys
Sep 08 20:40:06 <erstazi> hi setite
Sep 08 20:40:15 <setite> im trying to find that project that lets me use my n800 as a keyboard for my pc
Sep 08 20:40:22 <erstazi> anyone know of a good type of computer to computer within network calling besides Skype?
Sep 08 20:40:28 <erstazi> it only allows 5 users at once
Sep 08 20:40:42 <erstazi> setite: X ssh tunneling?
Sep 08 20:40:49 <erstazi> setite: or VNC viewer?
Sep 08 20:40:50 <setite> no its a project
Sep 08 20:41:02 <erstazi> heh
Sep 08 20:41:03 <setite> thats just for making the n800 into a bt keyboard
Sep 08 20:41:06 <erstazi> I am not sure, I never heard of that
Sep 08 20:41:17 <setite> ive run into it liek 20 times and now i cant find it
Sep 08 20:45:24 <pupnik> setite: is it synergy?  running the synergy server on the nokia?
Sep 08 20:45:29 <setite> no
Sep 08 20:45:53 <setite> some guy made it... its based on some on screen keyboard that he modded and using some bt module he uses the n800 as a keyboard
Sep 08 20:46:07 <pupnik> what a pervert :)
Sep 08 22:26:44 <frozeneskimo> hello
Sep 08 22:26:59 <frozeneskimo> i was wondering if the palm os emulator (POSE) for maemo runs up to speed on the 770?
Sep 08 22:41:05 <pupnik> runs about as fast as a 20-30mhz dragonball cpu - afaik
Sep 08 22:41:28 <pupnik> frozeneskimo: if you can test stuff that'd be nice - leave feedback on internettablettalk.com forums please
Sep 08 22:45:55 <frozeneskimo> pupnik, it's just that i don't have a 770... i'm trying to decide if i want to get one, and if a palm emulator runs well that just might help me decide :) brb
Sep 08 22:57:27 <pupnik> frozeneskimo: it only emulates up to palmos 4.5 i think. handwriting recognition is too slow, but you can use a keyboard with it
Sep 08 22:57:59 <pupnik> and an onscreen keyboard... if you have any free software or use-cases that i should test on it, let me know
Sep 08 23:12:37 <micky_> Hi all
Sep 08 23:43:21 <micky_> I was trying to find out if n800s kernel has the tickless patches added or not. I couldn't find any traces of them
Sep 09 00:00:10 <bernarde> Hi folks, I just got an N800 and when I plug the charger it always displays a "not charging" message. does anybody has an idea how to fix that?
Sep 09 00:11:36 <Blacksitox> buenos dias
Sep 09 00:14:15 <tru_> buenas noches.
Sep 09 00:16:26 <Blacksitox> hola tru_
Sep 09 00:23:26 <tru_> hola
Sep 09 00:24:03 <Blacksitox> tru_, hablas español ?
Sep 09 00:25:20 <tru_> si.
Sep 09 00:26:23 <Blacksitox> tru_, ¿De donde eres?
Sep 09 00:26:36 <tru_> suecia, pero vivo en madrid.
Sep 09 00:29:53 <Blacksitox> tru_, y tu, ¿Tienes un... n800?
Sep 09 00:30:21 <tru_> si :)
Sep 09 00:32:03 <Blacksitox> tru_, y que tal ? ahora le he instalado un rep. multimedia.KAGU, esta muy bueno :P
Sep 09 00:33:08 <tru_> a me gusta mucho! uso para un poco programacion con pymaemo.
Sep 09 00:34:15 <tru_> funciona bien con mi celular tambien. puedo usar el 3g de yoigo sin problemas :)
Sep 09 00:34:47 <Blacksitox> ah que bien, yo lo uso para todo, para todo un poco :P
Sep 09 00:35:35 <Blacksitox> quisiera portar una app a maemo, pero lo malo es que mi ingles es malo, no he podido leerme las guias :(
Sep 09 02:37:05 <bedboi> hi there.
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