**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 11 02:59:56 2007 Sep 11 03:49:51 bye Sep 11 04:06:14 anyone know how I get e2fsprogs installed? it keeps hiccoughing on ncurses-bin Sep 11 04:10:11 n/m I'll just format the partition on my laptop Sep 11 05:22:14 ok, I must be totally braindead, but where is bzip2? Or lacking that, how else can I extract .bz2 on my N800? Sep 11 05:32:19 qnr-lt: http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ApplicationCatalogWip#03ce1ba314f367fdd09887fc8f60578b Sep 11 05:32:32 it appears to be a WIP Sep 11 05:33:30 ok, thanks... I've seen one page on it already, I'll check that out, it might be different. What I really want to know is if there are .gz dictionaries for stardict Sep 11 05:33:36 I' can't find them Sep 11 05:33:59 ah, ok, that's a different page, thanks Sep 11 05:35:15 Has the promised 770 hacker edition update come out yet? Sep 11 05:37:05 oh well, that's a bad URI ... I'm browsing the site though, to check Sep 11 05:39:57 * qnr-lt just extracts and recompresses them on a different machine Sep 11 06:16:14 mornin' Sep 11 06:19:46 can you help me with conic? My applet needs to estabilish a connection if there is not yet, i tried con_ic_connection_connect with event callback. It works more or less on tablet but it prevents login on x86, scratchbox Sep 11 06:32:58 yepp ,got it Sep 11 07:01:28 Hi Sep 11 07:01:38 Morning, all Sep 11 07:04:01 Gopi: if you are referring to the one released on the 9th, then yes Sep 11 07:08:31 Jaffa: where you a palm user? Sep 11 07:19:39 Hello, Hola, Hallo, Ni hao, Xin chao, Konnnichiwa, Bonjour, Privet, Olá, ... Sep 11 07:22:49 こんいちは！ Sep 11 07:23:21 replace your konnichiwa :P Sep 11 07:24:31 ????????????? Sep 11 07:24:33 damn Sep 11 07:24:49 私達を遅れる言っているか。 Sep 11 07:26:02 keesj: Briefly. Never got on with it - the lack of multitasking was a killer. Sep 11 07:26:36 keesj: and the constant crashes which wiped everything out when I reset weren't too impressive either. Switched back to Psions before coming to the 770. Sep 11 07:27:26 My first "embedded" device was a psion 3 Sep 11 07:27:33 3a Sep 11 07:28:14 * Jaffa 's first *proper* embedded device was a Series 5. Had wanted a 3 but couldn't justify it Sep 11 07:29:21 I worked for cryptix and there where such device laying around. Sep 11 07:30:05 Cool Sep 11 07:30:33 I was really a puppet but I loved it Sep 11 08:16:37 fab: from Lyon? :) Sep 11 08:18:10 anyone out there have ever profiled d-bus? Sep 11 08:21:14 * bedboi is away: I'm busy Sep 11 08:21:23 * bedboi is away: i'm sleeping Sep 11 09:14:59 good morning.................... Sep 11 09:21:26 Buenas, AD-N770 Sep 11 09:22:05 Hola DRoBer Sep 11 09:22:12 good morning Sep 11 09:22:39 Good morning. Sep 11 09:22:56 hey, is there an last.fm compatible player for nokia 770? .. I can't find one in the garage. Sep 11 09:24:07 AD-N770: Which city are you from? if I can know. Sep 11 09:24:29 I'm from Igualada Sep 11 09:24:50 I bought an N770 just for tests but I am still waiting for it. :/ Sep 11 09:24:53 Catalonian Sep 11 09:24:59 yes Sep 11 09:25:22 I'm castillian but I live in Gallæcia. ;) Sep 11 09:25:52 So, did you get your N770 long time ago? Sep 11 09:26:01 about 2 years Sep 11 09:26:20 klikklak: nope i think Sep 11 09:29:37 So, you had test it a lot... I bought it this weekend but I'm still waiting for it. What is your oppinion of this device, AD-N770? Sep 11 09:32:39 DroBeR: I've a pair of 770 and one N800, I use mainly a 770 to read ebooks and some browsing, the other 770 is used by my wife, browsing and playing Sep 11 09:32:50 the n800 to develop Sep 11 09:34:04 As pocketable linux computers, the 770/N800 are unmatched. Sep 11 09:39:30 hi pupnik Sep 11 09:40:22 good morning AD-N770 :) Sep 11 09:40:50 ~UCT Sep 11 09:41:22 universal chat time - heh ... /me makes coffee Sep 11 09:41:28 pupnik: some ppl said me that my nethack port segfault Sep 11 09:41:44 and it's unplayable, random segfaults Sep 11 09:41:51 :( Works fine here Sep 11 09:42:14 pupnik are you using a 770 or a n800 ? Sep 11 09:42:29 770 Sep 11 09:42:53 i have only played it for an hour or two though Sep 11 09:50:26 What's the actual price of N800? Sep 11 09:51:38 g0000gle Sep 11 09:52:53 helloo o:) Sep 11 09:53:22 how do I "fav" a planet entry on planet.maemo.org ? it asks me to login when I do but my garage login doesn't seem to work Sep 11 09:55:35 I created another account for maemo.org - garage login didn't work for me. Sep 11 09:55:45 humm.. let me see if I can find it Sep 11 09:55:58 * Nermal waits for his N800 and 4GB sd card to arrive Sep 11 09:56:46 pupnik: where can you create a maemo.org account - the register link on the front page goes to the garage page Sep 11 09:58:42 i don't recall where - they did some reoganization, i created a new account and that works on both Sep 11 09:58:51 my original account only seems to work on garage, last i checked Sep 11 09:59:25 ah :| Sep 11 09:59:43 * pupnik is checking out the bin laden video on chrisbrunner.com Sep 11 10:00:21 my guess is bin laden died a couple of years ago and they're keeping him alive on video Sep 11 10:01:29 of course none of the MSM have pointed out the fact that he looks younger now, and that the video is paused for most of the duration Sep 11 10:01:43 they keep parrotting "cia has ruled the video genuine" Sep 11 10:02:15 They're laughing at us. Sep 11 10:02:26 The video is genuine archival footage. The audio is fake. Sep 11 10:03:06 hi suihkulokki Sep 11 10:07:08 AD-N770: hi Sep 11 10:07:08 <_Monkey> what's up, suihkulokki Sep 11 10:07:10 pupnik: fox news reported he died 4 or so years ago Sep 11 10:07:41 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html Sep 11 10:07:50 not that I really read faux news mind :) Sep 11 10:10:12 ah sorry about that post - wrong channel Sep 11 10:10:24 * pupnik should not IRC before 2nd cup of coffee Sep 11 10:10:30 ty nermal :) interesting link Sep 11 10:11:00 wb unique311 Sep 11 10:11:20 my thinkpad crapped out on me.. Sep 11 10:11:33 was without a notebook for a couple of days. Sep 11 10:11:55 too lazy to sit in front of PC after work.. Sep 11 10:11:59 sad Sep 11 10:12:56 think the bios battery is dead on the thinkpad. Sep 11 10:13:13 morning all Sep 11 10:13:23 thats what one have a web tablet for ;) Sep 11 10:13:30 pupnik: aye - I'm quite pleased at the lack of politics in #maemo so I'll keep quiet now :) Sep 11 10:13:43 the tablet to irc.. Sep 11 10:13:44 ll Sep 11 10:13:51 no way.. Sep 11 10:13:58 xchat ;) Sep 11 10:14:15 i know, bu i tried it, not the same... Sep 11 10:14:16 anyone tried kde on the tablet yet ? :) Sep 11 10:14:34 sure, i have not tried it myself. and without a bluetooth keyboard it would probably be problematic keeping up... Sep 11 10:14:42 brb Sep 11 10:15:17 having issues with video center, everything i add an internet tv link, i get "Service file not found" Sep 11 10:15:46 tried it with 4 different internet tv links same error message. Sep 11 10:33:54 hmm, ibm seems to be only tech company doing long haul development these days. and then only in the field of storage... Sep 11 10:40:06 there we goes Sep 11 10:40:37 hmm? Sep 11 10:41:40 had to restart irssi to assign correct window numbers to channels Sep 11 10:41:47 otherwise i end up typing in the wrong ones :P Sep 11 10:42:26 :| Sep 11 10:42:38 I used to run irc on console 4 Sep 11 10:42:48 so would alt-f4 a lot to get to the irc console Sep 11 10:42:54 made using Windows fun :( Sep 11 10:46:31 why do you have to restart irssi to assign correct window numbers? Sep 11 10:47:03 because i didn't rtfm probably Sep 11 10:50:02 so no one has given videocenter a try in here? Sep 11 10:51:22 not much point when all one owns is a 770 Sep 11 10:54:29 I loaded it, started it and thought "yay, yet another Nokia pplication with an inconsistent UI; when'll they learn something from Apple?" Sep 11 10:54:51 lol Sep 11 10:55:24 ukmp, kagu, and canola i think get it Sep 11 10:56:02 eye candy is nice.. Sep 11 10:57:22 Yeah, but we had MediaStreamer from Nokia which was one style, we've had 3 versions of Media Player now, and now we've got VideoCenter which is different again. Sep 11 10:57:47 And it didn't find any of my local videos, created a directory on my external SD card (the smallest one) and so pretty quickly got closed. Sep 11 10:57:56 I fixed UKMP's video thumbnails instead :) Sep 11 10:58:05 the video i watched of videocenter shows this guy using internet tv....but there's no tutorial on adding internet tv, and which are supported. Sep 11 10:58:39 ukmp is still not picking up all of my tracks.. Sep 11 10:59:00 billboard top 100s, only 30 shows. Sep 11 10:59:04 UKMP's code is shocking, it must be said. I can see why trevarthan started Kagu :) Sep 11 10:59:36 i just wish they would develop a player that dont need to take over the whole display... Sep 11 10:59:53 was not someone talking about a desktop applet for kagu over on itt? Sep 11 11:00:06 Yeah, the code's there now so it's just a case of writing the applet. Sep 11 11:00:47 my fingers never touch the display -- stylus all the way Sep 11 11:01:08 kinetic strolling, come on.. Sep 11 11:01:18 it just calls for fingers Sep 11 11:01:27 scroll* Sep 11 11:01:54 my ex girlfriend mastered kinetic strolling :P Sep 11 11:02:03 Sep 11 11:02:31 fingerprints, unique311 - can't stand em Sep 11 11:02:56 i don't get them. Sep 11 11:03:09 you have a screen protector? Sep 11 11:03:28 hmm, if kagu can handle audio streams then it may be a nice replacement for the buildt-in player on my 770 Sep 11 11:07:12 no screen protector Sep 11 11:08:40 pupnik: no scratches? Sep 11 11:09:26 derf: Do you have any idea if any of the Tremor branches (i.e. lowmem, lowmem-no-byte) actually compile? I'm getting rather a lot of errors and I think it's down to the header files. Sep 11 11:09:28 not one - just use the stylus - and occasionally a pen or a lighter edge Sep 11 12:01:06 bah, vmware fusion is not correctly handling mouse location Sep 11 12:01:35 running a virtual machine and then accessing that via vnc is too many layers of indirection Sep 11 12:04:31 lardman: lowmem-no-byte compiles on x86-32 for me. Sep 11 12:36:47 * lardman|home needs more monitors Sep 11 13:10:44 i can't figure out how to copy clipboard to the maemo vnc viewer Sep 11 13:10:55 I just reloaded my n800, and for some reason my bluetooth applet is missing. is there a package I have to install to get it back, or some setting I need to turn on somewhere? Sep 11 13:11:22 you will have to recreate your bluetooth connection Sep 11 13:11:46 pupnik_: oh... in the control panel? Sep 11 13:12:11 after flashing i have to recreate my bluetooth keyboard connection Sep 11 13:12:22 don't know about your situation Sep 11 13:13:13 pupnik_: yep, that did it. thanks Sep 11 13:28:21 can anyone tell me where the bluetooth dun settings are stored? I need to manualy change the phone number it's dialing so it works with my phone. Sep 11 13:28:23 the UI wont let me enter "S=2" :( **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 11 13:31:46 2007 Sep 11 13:31:50 where a is: char *a; Sep 11 13:36:45 I've greped the entire n800 file system and been unable to find where the phone number string for bluetooth dun is stored. can someone point me in the right direction please? Sep 11 13:41:21 bipolar: it probably is stored via gconf. Sorry, don't know off hand where these files are located. Sep 11 13:42:40 Can the n800 do dialup over bluetooth? I thought it defaulted to a gprs/data connection via the provider? Sep 11 13:43:00 lardman|home: yes, it can Sep 11 13:43:14 buenos dias Sep 11 13:45:00 bipolar: Try /etc/ppp/peers Sep 11 13:45:16 or rather one of the chat scripts that I presume are stored there Sep 11 13:45:37 if you searched as the normal user you won't have been able to look in there as it belongs to root Sep 11 13:47:33 lardman|home: thanks, but it's not there. I've got to go now, I hope I don't have to log into my servers while on my trip.... all becouse some designer decided to only allow numbers in the DUN field. Sep 11 13:50:17 uuurgh, #define somevar = someval, amazing how many problems that causes! Sep 11 13:51:03 heh :) Sep 11 14:05:06 scratchbox? Sep 11 14:05:06 <_Monkey> well, scratchbox is a cross-compilation toolkit for maemo application development. Homepage: http://www.scratchbox.org/ Maemo 3.x (bora/N800) tutorial: http://qurl.org/yN Maemo 2.2 (gregale/770) tutorial: http://qurl.org/zN A walkthrough for 3.x: http://qurl.org/0O Scratchbox Downloads: http://qurl.org/1O Sep 11 14:05:24 thanks, _Monkey Sep 11 14:05:24 <_Monkey> celesteh: no problem Sep 11 14:06:03 * celesteh doesn't know whether or not to be polite to inanimate objects . . . maybe it will matter when we get robot overlords Sep 11 14:06:12 i love irc on 770 Sep 11 14:06:32 do you use GAIM or xchat or what? Sep 11 14:06:57 i use gaim, but i can't say that i love it Sep 11 14:07:02 using vnc to a pc right now Sep 11 14:07:32 ah, i got that to work the first time yesterday. was cool Sep 11 14:07:42 ssh tunneling even worked Sep 11 14:07:49 away from home - irssi Sep 11 14:08:11 xchat is good too Sep 11 14:08:11 the only problem I have is DNS. my computer is called darc-mini.local and it can't resolve that Sep 11 14:08:24 heh - Sep 11 14:08:28 i don't know if the '-' is the problem, since the error is weird Sep 11 14:08:41 ah, so that's it Sep 11 14:08:53 - is valid in domains. Sep 11 14:08:57 iirc yes Sep 11 14:09:02 hmm Sep 11 14:09:09 (_ is not, actually) Sep 11 14:09:26 ur right sorry Sep 11 14:13:56 it is valid, but that doesn't mean that ssh on the 880 is doing the right thing Sep 11 14:15:05 it's the only non-mac on my wifi network. i don't know how to tell it to do the local DNS thing, since they all can do it fine Sep 11 14:16:08 the wireless router handles this, right? Sep 11 14:16:50 * lardman|home has to return to Windows, oh well Sep 11 14:25:44 celesteh: no, some wireless routers may do that, but in your case the foo.local thing is done using mdns Sep 11 15:06:59 hi to all Sep 11 15:07:03 i have a question Sep 11 15:07:48 ask away :) Sep 11 15:07:57 my nokia is N800 i have a bt keyboard /spp/ how to run it Sep 11 15:08:19 is posible ? Sep 11 15:11:09 Yes, Google 'kbdd' Sep 11 15:26:12 * bedboi is back (gone 07:04:48) Sep 11 15:39:26 hi bedboi Sep 11 15:39:37 hi there florian Sep 11 15:43:59 bedboi: any news on gpe-sudoku? :-) Sep 11 15:44:44 florian: nope, sorry for that. I'm extremely busy right now. btw i can do it later in the evening... Sep 11 15:44:54 i'll commit your patch and release Sep 11 15:45:06 thank you for pinging me :) Sep 11 15:45:48 hehe Sep 11 15:46:26 bedboi: yw, but don't worry its the same here - I will be more or less unavailable for some weeks. Sep 11 16:50:34 * pupnik ponders the cut-n-paste issue with vncviewer Sep 11 16:50:48 didn't the pc version have a paste buffer command? f8? Sep 11 16:55:09 pupnik: http://vnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2002-March/029083.html Sep 11 16:56:21 When the mouse Sep 11 16:56:21 enters the vncviewer's window, the clipboard is copied local-to-remote. Sep 11 16:56:23 When the mouse leaves, the clipboard is copied remote-to-local Sep 11 16:56:32 testing that now Sep 11 16:57:01 nope Sep 11 16:58:22 oh well - it keeps me from clicking on too many links :) Sep 11 17:03:00 pupnik: is the host a PC or the tablet? Sep 11 17:03:36 pupnik: I am assuming the tablet.. if so I do the tap-hold circle motion and it brings up the "right click" menu Sep 11 17:05:32 interesting - Sep 11 17:05:33 <_Monkey> hmmm... interesting - is there a web page / forum or wiki with info on how to do this? Sep 11 17:06:17 i don't see how i can tap-hold-circle - it destroys the text hilighting Sep 11 17:06:26 vncclient on the 770 - server on the pc Sep 11 17:06:52 Sun release JRE 1.4.2 of Java SE for ARM Linux... and it's not armel Sep 11 17:07:14 Jaffa: there isn't any formidable java release for armel Sep 11 17:07:49 Jaffa: from what I read on ITT (I don't remember the link's URL and its not bookmarked) but its going to be take quite some time before there is one Sep 11 17:12:17 erstazi: im just building gcj/gij for debian/armel Sep 11 17:12:24 ah Sep 11 17:14:07 <|user|> kvirc on n800, nice Sep 11 17:15:56 erstazi: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9656 Sep 11 17:16:57 ah Sep 11 17:17:10 that might have been it Sep 11 17:18:17 No, this is a new thing which Sun themselves have released for evaluation (times out after 90 days) Sep 11 17:54:22 anyone here know anything about VPN on the N800? Sep 11 18:20:55 i am trying to connect my N800 to a secure wifi network at my school, however the server certificate they use is not on my list of trusted certificates. does anyone know how can i go about getting that certificate? Sep 11 18:27:17 kethepoo: I'm having the same exact problem Sep 11 18:27:25 actually Sep 11 18:27:29 i think i figured it out Sep 11 18:27:31 kethepoo: works at home, but not at school Sep 11 18:27:34 kethepoo: yeah? Sep 11 18:27:39 went to control panel Sep 11 18:27:47 kethepoo: see, my school uses Thawte Premium Server Sep 11 18:27:49 which I have Sep 11 18:27:53 I set it to trust it Sep 11 18:27:58 didn't help Sep 11 18:27:59 then i had to set it too trust Sep 11 18:27:59 yeah Sep 11 18:28:01 hmm Sep 11 18:28:17 I'm on my school's unsecured wifi right now Sep 11 18:28:22 on the n800 Sep 11 18:28:30 (in class) Sep 11 18:28:34 sweet Sep 11 18:28:50 i just bought it a couple days ago Sep 11 18:29:35 my school's wifi limits just about all ports Sep 11 18:29:37 :( Sep 11 18:29:58 anyway, Thawte Premium Server is the exact same certificate they use here Sep 11 18:31:47 kethepoo: what school are you at? Sep 11 18:32:59 carroll college, montana Sep 11 18:33:30 ah, not mine, then :> Sep 11 18:33:39 I'm at Brandeis University, near boston, ma Sep 11 18:33:52 yeah i whois'd you Sep 11 18:33:52 I'm at Brandeis University, near boston, ma Sep 11 18:33:55 Aruba? Sep 11 18:34:01 I meant Sep 11 18:34:04 who installed your network Sep 11 18:34:10 Jamaica? Sep 11 18:34:13 I guess I pressed up on this bluetooth keyboard Sep 11 18:34:17 Aruba Networks Sep 11 18:34:25 not a clue Sep 11 18:34:55 procto: BT HID keyboard? Sep 11 18:35:08 yes, the stowaway Sep 11 18:35:12 the small one Sep 11 18:35:36 Ok. I'm looking for someone who has set up an SPP keyboard. Sep 11 18:36:01 Brandeis University is a community of scholars and students united by their commitment to the pursuit of knowledge and its transmission from generation to generation. As a research university, Brandeis is dedicated to the advancement of the humanities, arts, and social, natural and physical sciences. As a liberal arts college, Brandeis affirms the importance of a broad and critical education in enriching the lives of students and preparing them for full p Sep 11 18:36:31 -ho Sep 11 18:36:37 heh, sounds exactly like my school Sep 11 18:36:44 Hi guys Sep 11 18:36:56 any of you used skype or gizmo on the n800? Sep 11 18:37:00 anyone help a newbie please? Sep 11 18:37:20 I am trying to install gaim/pidgin on the n800 Sep 11 18:37:21 kethepoo: I've used skype Sep 11 18:37:29 I cannot get libgcrypt Sep 11 18:38:01 the maemo-hackers catalogue seems to hang Sep 11 18:38:05 Spoodle: hm. I haven't done it, so can't be sure. Are you doing this from the console? Sep 11 18:38:27 added the catalogue in application manager Sep 11 18:38:44 but it simply does not work Sep 11 18:38:53 try it in xterm Sep 11 18:39:05 xterm? how? Sep 11 18:39:22 oh hm, anyone have a link to instructions on installing xterm? Sep 11 18:39:33 hee hee Sep 11 18:39:49 I forget which repo it's on Sep 11 18:39:54 I think it's on the eko.pl one Sep 11 18:39:56 I even downloaded the .install file to set it up but it hangs as well Sep 11 18:40:00 oh wait, no Sep 11 18:40:07 xterm is on maemo-hackers Sep 11 18:40:09 install that Sep 11 18:40:19 then install the becomroot package from the eko.pl repo Sep 11 18:40:24 then open xterm Sep 11 18:40:29 type sudo gainroot Sep 11 18:40:39 and type apt-get update Sep 11 18:40:52 then type apt-get install maemo-gaim Sep 11 18:40:59 (oor mhatever the package name is) Sep 11 18:41:06 but the maemo-hackers repo is the one that is hanging Sep 11 18:42:17 I do not understand why Sep 11 18:42:29 I am onnly missing libgcrypt Sep 11 18:42:46 which I managed to get but is not new enough Sep 11 18:44:12 it is getting *really* frustrating Sep 11 18:52:00 why not just use the pidgin binary? Sep 11 18:54:40 Every time I boot my n770 from the mmc card, and try to open the browser, it seg faults. This has only started happening over the past few days - anyone got any ideas/suggestions? Sep 11 18:59:32 did you change settings? Sep 11 19:04:11 sweet, my new e61 uses same battery and charger as 770 Sep 11 19:05:08 a pencil makes a goos styluus... Sep 11 19:05:26 Nope, not that I'm aware of Sep 11 19:05:50 ahs the url changed for maemo-hackers repo? Sep 11 19:05:55 ahs=has Sep 11 19:06:11 the log shows me a does not exist error Sep 11 19:07:16 hackers is sometimes down Sep 11 19:07:19 if I go to the repo with a browser there is nothing in the incoming-bora or mistral dirs Sep 11 19:07:35 but I can get to the site Sep 11 19:08:36 repositories? Sep 11 19:08:37 <_Monkey> i heard repositories was http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ApplicationRepositories and a searchable index at http://www.gronmayer.com/n800/repos/index.php Sep 11 19:09:26 I mean if I put in the app manager.... Sep 11 19:09:55 http://maemo-hackers.org/apt Sep 11 19:10:04 Distribution: bora Sep 11 19:10:10 Components: main Sep 11 19:10:14 it fails Sep 11 19:10:32 if I browse to the url I can get to it Sep 11 19:10:44 but nothing in the incoming-bora dir Sep 11 19:13:56 Spoodle: http://rafb.net/p/co47rc67.html Sep 11 19:14:32 sbz: thanks, I guess I would need xterm for that? Sep 11 19:15:00 for me this repository(maemo-hackers), is totaly reachable Sep 11 19:15:20 how strange Sep 11 19:15:51 Spoodle: you just need to add this following line on your /etc/apt/source.list => deb http://maemo-hackers.org/apt/ bora main Sep 11 19:16:05 sources.list sorry Sep 11 19:16:10 * pupnik is still in love with his 770 sooo much :) Sep 11 19:16:42 sbz: you mean on the n800? Sep 11 19:16:54 every once in a while i look at it again and think "wow... that's just *too* *cool*" Sep 11 19:17:15 Spoodle: yes Sep 11 19:17:39 well I have that but it fails Sep 11 19:18:03 in the application manager Sep 11 19:18:18 I cannot understand it, it is doin' me 'ead in! Sep 11 19:19:04 pupnik: do you know anything (news..) about the WPA on the nokia ? i've compiled xsupplicant, it's works well on prompt, but he don't work :/ Sep 11 19:19:36 doesn't work Sep 11 19:19:51 sbz: I have even downloaded the .install file so it creates the settings automatically but nada Sep 11 19:20:22 no idea about wpa - just wep here Sep 11 19:20:31 Spoodle: hum, use sources.list file, is more sure that application manager :) Sep 11 19:20:49 how do I get to it though, I have not got xterm Sep 11 19:21:46 okay, it's a problem ..., i suppose you want to install osso-xterm from the maemo-hackers repository ? Sep 11 19:22:40 ermm.. noew you see I have a problem with getting that too ;) Sep 11 19:23:38 Spoodle: get the .deb from someone here then - i have the 770 ver Sep 11 19:25:00 Spoodle: do you have activated the Red Pill Mode ? Sep 11 19:25:04 anyone got the .deb version of osso-xterm for n800 please? Sep 11 19:25:13 Red Pill mode? Sep 11 19:25:14 <_Monkey> Red Pill mode is presumably just the editing of a file Sep 11 19:25:55 Spoodle: it's on wiki Sep 11 19:26:08 OK, I will look there. Only had the tablet a day :) Sep 11 19:26:14 * Deformati needs his 770 to come in. Sep 11 19:26:14 :( Sep 11 19:28:20 Spoodle: moreover, check the error output of application manager , on window clic on left arrow and choose Tools -> Log... to check errors Sep 11 19:30:37 sbz: found osso-xterm files and dragged them into card. Now installed Sep 11 19:32:09 sbz: would you be so kind as to repeat your earlier directions for apt-get in an xterm please? Sep 11 19:34:22 Spoodle: # echo "http://maemo-hackers.org/apt/ bora main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update Sep 11 19:35:22 * Deformati decides that maemo needs a new package manager. Sep 11 19:35:28 I mean, apt ubar suckage. Sep 11 19:42:33 gah, just getting permission denied on that one Sep 11 19:44:27 should I be logged into the tablet under a superuser of some kind for all this? Sep 11 20:33:54 apple2! Sep 11 20:34:02 oh noes. /me reboots Sep 11 20:50:44 mdns? Sep 11 20:50:52 * celesteh pokes the monkey Sep 11 21:32:01 i finally figured out how to play sudoku, Not a big fan of reading instructions... Sep 11 21:32:09 yeah, everyone celebrate Sep 11 21:32:27 * celesteh celebrates Sep 11 21:32:49 cool Sep 11 21:33:07 k, now i need sudoku for the n800 Sep 11 21:33:07 * celesteh drinks too much champagne Sep 11 21:33:16 i found it last night Sep 11 21:33:23 i forget where Sep 11 21:33:28 not totally happy with it Sep 11 21:33:37 i can finally give up my addiction to solitaire on the n800 Sep 11 21:34:41 it would be nice to have a version that let you choose things like difficulty level. i haven't done a serious search yet, because if i follow the siren song of sudoku, that's baaaad Sep 11 21:35:03 * celesteh clutches n800 constantly, stops bathing, stops sleeping Sep 11 21:35:26 if i find anything i'll let you know. Sep 11 21:35:57 hopefully i can find something that easily ports to maemo Sep 11 21:39:29 gpe-sudoku, maemo-sudoku Sep 11 21:41:02 i think i got the gpe. it is not great Sep 11 22:10:38 is it possible for the touchscreen of my 770 to have a small deadzone in the middle? not quite sure how the technology works Sep 11 22:19:01 yes toed Sep 11 22:19:17 I guess I'll have to send it back Sep 11 22:19:37 you can test it with a sketch program Sep 11 22:20:30 that's what I was doing, but since it's in dead center I was thinking it might be a bug or something Sep 11 22:21:25 haven't heard of any software issues that would explain that Sep 11 22:23:00 wishful thinking :) Sep 11 23:15:25 Anyone around Sep 11 23:15:26 ? Sep 11 23:17:02 lonely day I guess Sep 11 23:17:46 Indeed. Sep 11 23:17:55 Everything went perfect. Sep 11 23:18:02 Except I didn't get my 770 yet. Sep 11 23:20:33 Can anyone help me with scratchbox? Sep 11 23:20:41 When I try to login I get major ld.so error. Sep 11 23:21:27 Argh! my 770 is Awaiting parts Sep 11 23:21:59 saaib: Can you help me with scratchbox? Sep 11 23:22:01 Deformati, did you run all the steps? Sep 11 23:22:15 As far as I know. Sep 11 23:22:20 I am following the tutorial. Sep 11 23:22:52 Inconsistency detected by ld.so: rtld.c bla bla bla Sep 11 23:27:22 Hmm, now after reboot it says "scratchbox is not properly setup!" Sep 11 23:28:37 hi Sep 11 23:31:24 Deformati, probably you didn't run an ldconfig somewhere? Sep 11 23:31:39 The tutorial never said that. Sep 11 23:32:06 did you run the run me first script? Sep 11 23:32:11 Yes. Sep 11 23:38:09 Deformati, are you doing your scratchbox manually? Sep 11 23:38:20