**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Sep 16 02:59:56 2007
Sep 16 04:30:51 <roundeye> any got a silc client working on a 770?
Sep 16 04:31:00 <roundeye> anyone*
Sep 16 04:43:25 <roundeye> anyone here?
Sep 16 05:05:17 <roundeye> the maemo-gaim package claims to do slic but i cant not find the silc plugin anywhere
Sep 16 05:59:30 <pupnik> http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070730/hedges
Sep 16 06:01:58 <bedboi> i still had no luck with that damn thread stuff
Sep 16 09:08:12 <roundeye> anyone here got a silc client working on a 770?
Sep 16 09:15:28 <roundeye> anyone here?
Sep 16 09:23:15 <sbaturzio> Aloha!
Sep 16 09:23:16 <_Monkey> Guten Tag, sbaturzio!
Sep 16 09:23:27 <roundeye> hello guys
Sep 16 10:33:31 <ilan> hello
Sep 16 10:36:46 <pupnik> moo
Sep 16 12:15:45 <rcknight> hello
Sep 16 12:15:45 <_Monkey> hey, rcknight
Sep 16 12:27:05 <svu> Fatal server error:
Sep 16 12:27:06 <svu> Caught signal 11.  Server aborting
Sep 16 12:27:10 <svu> arrgh
Sep 16 12:27:21 <svu> Backtrace:
Sep 16 12:27:21 <svu> 0: /usr/bin/X(xf86SigHandler+0x94) [0x10093f14]
Sep 16 12:27:21 <svu> 1: [0x100344]
Sep 16 12:27:21 <svu> 2: /lib/libc.so.6(cfree+0xc8) [0xf4ff138]
Sep 16 12:27:21 <svu> 3: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libGLcore.so(_mesa_free+0x24) [0xe794814]
Sep 16 12:30:04 <svu> oops wrong channel :)
Sep 16 12:30:05 <svu> sorry
Sep 16 12:59:36 <latzko> hi
Sep 16 13:01:29 <latzko> A gtk question: how can I tell to a GtkToggleButton not to move its image when it toggled? rc property also welcome
Sep 16 13:42:50 <tko> latzko: GtkButton style property IIRC, child-offset something .. although you can't really affect the bitmaps used
Sep 16 13:48:13 <latzko> tko, thanks I will check
Sep 16 13:52:35 <latzko> child-displacement-x /y what I want :) tnx again
Sep 16 14:51:15 <alterego> Anyone know what the soft poweroff function is in the power menu?
Sep 16 14:54:03 <alterego> Oh, instant on/off ..
Sep 16 14:54:05 <alterego> Weird ..
Sep 16 14:54:19 <tso> power plugged in?
Sep 16 14:54:37 <alterego> Yes
Sep 16 14:54:55 <alterego> Is that menu option dangerous?
Sep 16 14:55:55 <tso> not sure what entry your refering to
Sep 16 14:56:21 <tso> but when the power is plugged in, the device to not fully turn off, it just shuts down the desktop iirc
Sep 16 14:56:51 <alterego> No, when I press the power button. There are now two options. "Reboot" and "Soft power off".
Sep 16 14:57:02 <alterego> They are there because I edited a file in /etc/systemui
Sep 16 14:57:16 <alterego> I think the soft off has something to do with the 770's case cover.
Sep 16 14:57:26 <alterego> So I don't think it does anything interesting on the N800
Sep 16 14:57:40 <alterego> I just thought the reboot function would be useful ;)
Sep 16 15:01:52 <wasabi> So... been wahile since I've screwed with my nokia...
Sep 16 15:02:04 <wasabi> There a repository based distribution now, where updates are pushed without flashing?
Sep 16 15:09:58 <tso> repositories?
Sep 16 15:09:58 <_Monkey> repositories is probably http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ApplicationRepositories  and a searchable index at http://www.gronmayer.com/n800/repos/index.php
Sep 16 15:11:07 <tso> i think some updates can be done using repos, but i suspect it requires the app manager to be in red pill mode
Sep 16 15:14:13 <bearclaw_> ouch
Sep 16 15:14:15 <bearclaw_> pand -c 00:80:37:2E:32:D8
Sep 16 15:14:15 <bearclaw_> Failed to open control socket: Protocol not supported
Sep 16 15:14:24 <bearclaw_> what am I missing?
Sep 16 15:53:14 <dick-richardson> Has anyone gotten webmin working?
Sep 16 16:12:35 <dick-richardson> Or can someone point me in the direction of a good iptables gui frontend?
Sep 16 16:23:10 <trevarthan> Is it a bad thing to have only 9M free in / on a 770?
Sep 16 16:24:30 <TPC> well, depends on what you filled it with :P
Sep 16 16:31:01 * dwmw2_gone ♥ mmpc on the N800 
Sep 16 16:31:14 <dwmw2_gone> even if it is a PITA to find libglade2 for it :)
Sep 16 16:32:00 <TPC> mmpc?
Sep 16 16:32:19 <dwmw2_gone> http://mmpc.garage.maemo.org/
Sep 16 16:32:50 <TPC> ah, MPD client
Sep 16 16:33:18 <dwmw2_gone> I gave up on setting up my N800 when I first got it; too many things were missing from the EABI repositories and I was too lazy
Sep 16 16:33:27 <dwmw2_gone> looks a bit better now.
Sep 16 16:33:33 * dwmw2_gone goes looking for pine
Sep 16 16:33:39 <TPC> personally I just ssh in and run moc in screen :P
Sep 16 16:33:47 <TPC> or wait, not in screen, moc has background mode
Sep 16 16:34:00 <TPC> so it doesn't strictly require screen (but I use it anyway)
Sep 16 16:34:49 <TPC> and pine? thats blasphemy, everyone knows that mutt is better
Sep 16 16:34:50 * TPC runs
Sep 16 16:35:16 <dwmw2_gone> no, really. with mouse-in-xterm enabled on a touch screen, pine really is a whole lot nicer to use than _any_ other mail client I've ever tried
Sep 16 16:35:42 <dwmw2_gone> you never need to use the keyboard, unless you actually want to compose a mail
Sep 16 16:36:15 <dwmw2_gone> http://david.woodhou.se/maemo-pine.html
Sep 16 16:37:02 <dwmw2_gone> hm, that reminds me -- need gnome-ssh-askpass too
Sep 16 16:37:31 <TPC> is that something like ssh-agent?
Sep 16 16:37:59 <dwmw2_gone> ssh-askpass just pops up and asks for the password/passphrase
Sep 16 16:38:11 <dwmw2_gone> ssh uses it automatically if it has no controlling tty
Sep 16 16:38:21 <TPC> ah
Sep 16 16:38:25 <dwmw2_gone> you can see it in the first screenshot in the above link
Sep 16 16:38:27 <TPC> sounds like ssh-askpass is a front end for ssh-agent then
Sep 16 16:38:34 <TPC> since thats what ssh-agent does
Sep 16 16:38:38 <dwmw2_gone> no
Sep 16 16:38:45 <dwmw2_gone> ssh-agent caches keys for you
Sep 16 16:38:56 <dwmw2_gone> not passwords/passphrases.
Sep 16 16:38:57 <TPC> oh wait, now I see what you mean
Sep 16 16:39:03 <dwmw2_gone> ssh-askpass is for interacting with the user
Sep 16 16:39:07 <TPC> yeah, I get it now
Sep 16 16:39:26 <TPC> what app do you use that uses ssh without a controling tty?
Sep 16 16:39:32 <dwmw2_gone> evolution
Sep 16 16:39:35 <dwmw2_gone> although not on the N800 :)
Sep 16 16:39:40 <dwmw2_gone> pine, mutt, etc.
Sep 16 16:39:47 <TPC> ok
Sep 16 16:39:57 <dwmw2_gone> ssh $MAILSERVER exec imapd
Sep 16 16:40:11 <dwmw2_gone> no need for running a separate imap dæmon and allowing password auth.
Sep 16 16:40:21 <dwmw2_gone> and ssh can compress, too :)
Sep 16 16:40:25 <TPC> yep
Sep 16 16:40:45 <TPC> well, personally I would rather use ssh-agent and let it store my passphrase for a key, and just enter it once whenever I reboot the N800
Sep 16 16:40:52 <TPC> I think I'm gonna try to set that up
Sep 16 16:41:07 <dwmw2_gone> yeah, I prefer to have both
Sep 16 16:43:06 <TPC> hm.. I wonder what init script is best to start ssh-agent from
Sep 16 16:43:18 <dwmw2_gone> was just poking
Sep 16 16:43:28 <dwmw2_gone> needs to be in the X session startup, I think
Sep 16 16:43:35 <TPC> probably the one that starts the window manager, but since I've only had my N800 I don't know which one that is
Sep 16 16:45:00 <dwmw2_gone> You could start it in /etc/X11/Xsession.d but you need its environment variables to be exported.
Sep 16 16:47:07 <dwmw2_gone> heh. It didn't like me stopping the X server :)
Sep 16 16:47:27 <TPC> hehe
Sep 16 16:48:01 <suihkulokki> dwmw2_gone: the env variables session stuff are set in various scripts in /etc/osso-af-init
Sep 16 16:48:15 <suihkulokki> warning: you might end up blind looking at them
Sep 16 16:51:16 <dwmw2_gone> heh
Sep 16 16:51:28 <dwmw2_gone> cool, so a script in there which just does eval `ssh-agent` should work
Sep 16 16:55:36 <TPC> otherwise it seems like .profile in the user home dir gets evaluated during boot
Sep 16 16:55:39 <TPC> found this on the wiki:
Sep 16 16:55:44 <TPC> if [ ! -d /tmp/ssh-sockets ]; then mkdir /tmp/ssh-sockets eval `/var/lib/install/bin/ssh-agent`
Sep 16 16:57:10 <dwmw2_gone> hahaha
Sep 16 16:57:55 <suihkulokki> did you go blind?
Sep 16 16:57:56 <roope> http://www.theinternetwalk.com/index.php   ...
Sep 16 16:57:57 <TPC> well, the path is wrong for ssh-agent
Sep 16 16:58:06 <TPC> must be an old example
Sep 16 16:58:32 <dwmw2_gone> nah, I'm just amused at having my own instructions quoted back at me :)
Sep 16 16:58:38 * dwmw2_gone tries doing it that way 
Sep 16 17:02:27 <TPC> so you wrote that on the wiki? hehe
Sep 16 17:02:46 <dwmw2_gone> I see there's a version of pine there too :)
Sep 16 17:02:50 <dwmw2_gone> but it's also oabi
Sep 16 17:03:38 <dwmw2_gone> er, I think I broke it
Sep 16 17:03:48 <dwmw2_gone> after adding that to .profile, it no longer starts :)
Sep 16 17:04:06 <dwmw2_gone> or maybe it's because I added a 'dwmw2' user with the same uid as 'user'
Sep 16 17:05:20 <TPC> well, the ssh thing worked for me, so its probably the other thing
Sep 16 17:05:28 <dwmw2_gone> pants. I'm sure that used to work
Sep 16 17:06:04 <dwmw2_gone> now it just seems to reboot when it should be starting the UI, after the progress bar gets to 90%
Sep 16 17:06:13 <dwmw2_gone> is there a way to fix that other than a complete reinstall?
Sep 16 17:06:40 <TPC> hm..
Sep 16 17:07:07 <TPC> while true; do ssh user@pdahost rm .profile; done
Sep 16 17:07:19 <TPC> if you are really quick, since it starts the ssh server before it starts the UI
Sep 16 17:07:29 <TPC> oh wait, its not the profile
Sep 16 17:07:39 <TPC> I must be tired or something :
Sep 16 17:07:40 <TPC> :P
Sep 16 17:08:15 <dwmw2_gone> suppose I could grab the current filesystem with 0xFFFF, put /etc/passwd back how it was, then reflash
Sep 16 17:09:20 <TPC> hm.. it didn't work
Sep 16 17:09:32 <TPC> it starts ssh-agent fine, but the environment doesn't get exported
Sep 16 17:09:49 <dwmw2_gone> it was definitely doing:
Sep 16 17:09:52 <dwmw2_gone>  eval `ssh-agent`
Sep 16 17:09:53 <dwmw2_gone>  ?
Sep 16 17:10:12 <TPC> yes
Sep 16 17:10:17 <dwmw2_gone> ah, I can boot with root on mmc
Sep 16 17:12:02 <TPC> or wait, I'm stupid
Sep 16 17:12:04 <TPC> let me reboot again
Sep 16 17:12:46 <TPC> I justed lowercase 'ssh' when grepping for the environment variables, but it should obviously be uppercase
Sep 16 17:13:10 <dwmw2_gone> gr, I have to rebuild the jffs2 kernel module for little-endian support
Sep 16 17:13:18 <dwmw2_gone> what bloody stupid person made jffs2 host-endian on the medium?
Sep 16 17:14:58 <TPC> hm.. turns out that I was right, it doesn't export the environment
Sep 16 17:16:17 <TPC> I should probably switch to a better file system for my flash memory too, I FAT32 at the moment, not the best one to use
Sep 16 17:21:38 <TPC> there we go, I got it working
Sep 16 17:21:55 <TPC> I made it write the environment to a file, which I then read from .profile every time
Sep 16 17:22:03 <TPC> works for me at least since I only use ssh from xterm
Sep 16 17:22:19 <TPC> but probably wouldn't work with no controlling tty
Sep 16 17:26:36 <TPC> hm.. what else fun can you do with ssh
Sep 16 17:27:12 <TPC> sshfs would be nice
Sep 16 17:40:52 <Deformative>  /scratchbox/compilers/cs2005q3.2-glibc-arm/bin/sbox-arm-linux-ar: libgcc/./_udivsi3.o: No such file or directory
Sep 16 17:40:58 <Deformative> Has anyone ever had that build error?
Sep 16 17:49:46 <DRoBeR> Saludos
Sep 16 17:49:50 <DRoBeR> Greetings
Sep 16 17:54:30 <Deformative> DRoBeR:  /scratchbox/compilers/cs2005q3.2-glibc-arm/bin/sbox-arm-linux-ar: libgcc/./_udivsi3.o: No such file or directory
Sep 16 17:54:31 <Deformative> Ideas?
Sep 16 17:54:52 <[31d1]> file is missing
Sep 16 17:55:22 * [31d1] just woke up and thinks that was really funny thing to say
Sep 16 17:56:01 <Deformative> Heh.
Sep 16 17:56:22 <DRoBeR> Nope :S
Sep 16 17:56:41 <DRoBeR> I'm still waiting for my N800 -_- I never tried Maemo or N770/800
Sep 16 17:56:51 <DRoBeR> 2 days left... -_-
Sep 16 17:57:01 <Deformative> Oh.
Sep 16 17:57:16 <Deformative> Well, I am trying to outfit my 770 to make it my laptop replacement.
Sep 16 17:57:51 <Deformative> All I need is a keyboard and compiler.
Sep 16 17:57:54 <Deformative> I think.
Sep 16 17:57:59 <Deformative> Oh, and some more storage.
Sep 16 17:58:52 <DRoBeR> mmm I can start downloading maemo tools, Don't I? :)
Sep 16 18:01:59 <Deformative> But if I get usb working I will be able to use flash drives.
Sep 16 18:02:00 <Deformative> :D
Sep 16 18:02:29 <DRoBeR> My laptop is an old IBM Thinkpad 760x... everything has more power than it..
Sep 16 18:14:30 <alterego> Is it possible to backup the entire flash image so I can reinstate it later as-is ?
Sep 16 18:23:10 <bedboi> alterego: the best thinng is to put all things on the mmc
Sep 16 18:23:14 <bedboi> and then dual boot
Sep 16 18:23:20 <bedboi> and work on the mmc
Sep 16 18:23:26 <alterego> Hmm ..
Sep 16 18:23:27 <bedboi> doing dirty things and stuff
Sep 16 18:23:41 <bedboi> http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowTo_EASILY_Partition_your_MMC_card
Sep 16 18:23:42 <alterego> Yeah .. So it's not possible to create images from mtd devices?
Sep 16 18:23:57 <alterego> ~the mtd devices :)
Sep 16 18:24:06 <suihkulokki> well.. not while they are mounted
Sep 16 18:24:20 <alterego> Obviously, I was wondering if the flasher did that ..
Sep 16 18:24:25 <suihkulokki> but if you boot from mmc then you could just dd them (in theory)
Sep 16 18:24:32 <suihkulokki> flasher: no
Sep 16 18:25:01 <alterego> Hm ..
Sep 16 18:25:12 <alterego> Well, basically I want to play with sardine
Sep 16 18:25:24 <alterego> Is it possible to install that onto an SD card?
Sep 16 18:25:53 <bedboi> yep
Sep 16 18:25:55 <bedboi> of course
Sep 16 18:26:04 <alterego> Oh, well. That solves that problem then ;)
Sep 16 19:06:14 <pupnik> bedboi, do you have the multiboot howto?
Sep 16 19:08:10 <Deformative> Has anyone here done the usb power hack?
Sep 16 19:11:27 <alterego> USB power hack?
Sep 16 19:11:44 <alterego> You mean powered HUB?
Sep 16 19:14:55 <Deformative> Or the injector.
Sep 16 19:14:56 <Deformative> Either one.
Sep 16 19:23:05 <pupnik> soldering iron
Sep 16 19:25:44 * pupnik is building boost 
Sep 16 19:26:41 <pupnik> been going for -- 6 hours now on an athlon 2800xp :/
Sep 16 19:29:15 <suihkulokki> imagine native compiling it
Sep 16 19:30:20 <hircus> suihkulokki: imagine native-compiling KDE4! (it requires boost, I think)
Sep 16 19:30:58 <pupnik> repositories?
Sep 16 19:30:58 <_Monkey> repositories is http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ApplicationRepositories  and a searchable index at http://www.gronmayer.com/n800/repos/index.php
Sep 16 19:32:04 <pupnik> lots of errors too :/
Sep 16 19:35:32 <Deformative> So no one here has done the usb hack?
Sep 16 19:38:12 <lle2> sure
Sep 16 19:38:35 <Deformative> You have?
Sep 16 19:38:56 <lle2> I'm positive I'm not the only one
Sep 16 19:39:55 * alterego thinks it's easier to partition the SD/MMC using the USB cable and a computer ..
Sep 16 19:39:59 <Deformative> Did you do the Soldered one or non?
Sep 16 19:40:33 <lle2> uh, it was just a modification of a Targus usb hub
Sep 16 19:42:42 <Deformative> This one? http://www.targus.com/us/product_details.asp?sku=PA
Sep 16 19:44:33 <lle2> looked like this one: http://www.targus.com/us/product_details.asp?sku=PA050U
Sep 16 19:44:52 <lle2> but of course it may have changed quite a bit
Sep 16 19:45:23 <pupnik> speaking of soldering.  http://lnx.manoweb.com/lirc/mids/img_3013.jpg  cute lady with soldering iron
Sep 16 19:46:01 <Deformative> Well, I am going to try this,  so I am trying to get as much info as possible
Sep 16 19:46:18 <Deformative> Did you use a battery powered or plugged in hub/
Sep 16 19:46:31 <Deformative> Did said hub provide upstream power?
Sep 16 19:47:03 <lle2> it's a powered hub
Sep 16 19:47:51 <Deformative> Powered hubs do not always provide upstream unless I am mistaken.
Sep 16 19:47:57 <lle2> this one doesn't
Sep 16 19:47:59 <Deformative> Also, battery or wall outlet?
Sep 16 19:48:05 <lle2> wall
Sep 16 19:48:27 <lle2> if I understood what you mean by upstream
Sep 16 19:48:38 <Deformative> Well then, how did you get the nokia working?  From what I understand it needs power flowing into it.
Sep 16 19:48:59 <Deformative> Oh, I guess you can take power from one of the outlets.
Sep 16 19:49:16 * lle2 is confused
Sep 16 19:49:48 <Deformative> Can you draw an example of what you did?
Sep 16 19:50:16 <lle2> I think they are floating somewhere in the interweb
Sep 16 19:50:59 <Deformative> I have read several.
Sep 16 19:51:02 <lle2> somebody at nokia came up with the procedure and then everybody just copied, me included
Sep 16 19:51:07 <Deformative> But they are all different.
Sep 16 20:01:46 <alterego> I can't install tar, it'll remove half of my system :/
Sep 16 20:05:05 <pupnik> lazy problem report insufficient for assistance
Sep 16 20:12:16 <dwmw2_gone> ok, pine works nicely now
Sep 16 20:12:46 * dwmw2_gone tries to remember how he persuaded xterm on the N770 to interpret the middle of the rocker switch as _enter_, not bring up the virtual keyboard
Sep 16 20:17:25 <pupnik> if you remember, please post here
Sep 16 20:19:12 <alterego> You can do it with the input settings.
Sep 16 20:19:15 <alterego> But that's global.
Sep 16 20:19:26 <alterego> You just disable the thumb keypad.
Sep 16 20:19:34 <alterego> Anyhow ... rsync isn't installed on my device ..
Sep 16 20:19:44 <alterego> How am I supposed to copy meh rootfs !
Sep 16 20:20:27 <pupnik> boot to another partition
Sep 16 20:20:33 <alterego> O_o
Sep 16 20:20:38 <pupnik> or use the rootfs duplication howto
Sep 16 20:20:46 <alterego> Which uses rsync ..
Sep 16 20:21:03 <Hyperion2010> anyone know if the latest firmware has fixed issues with SD card bricking?
Sep 16 20:22:19 <mvhtest> the latest firmware causes "bricking"...
Sep 16 20:22:29 <Hyperion2010> bah
Sep 16 20:23:11 <Hyperion2010> also, does anyone know if java for mobile phones has been ported yet?
Sep 16 20:24:16 <dwmw2_gone> alterego: disabling the thumb keypad doesn't suffice.
Sep 16 20:24:26 <alterego> Hmm
Sep 16 20:24:30 <dwmw2_gone> that disabled the thumb keypad, perhaps unsurprisingly, but the keyboard does still come up
Sep 16 20:24:46 <dwmw2_gone> I worked it out -- to make the middle rocker button map to enter, I have to attach the bluetooth keyboard :)
Sep 16 20:24:53 <dwmw2_gone> which is kind of suboptimal :)
Sep 16 20:25:21 <dwmw2_gone> the virtual keyboard also pops up every time I tap on the screen in xterm
Sep 16 20:25:23 <alterego> You can use xset
Sep 16 20:27:24 <pupnik> building boost with g++-3.4 and gcc-3.4 is not working...
Sep 16 20:28:30 <Deformative> Has anyone here built gcc in scratchbox?
Sep 16 20:29:04 <pupnik> not i
Sep 16 20:32:29 <dwmw2_gone> hm, xset doesn't seem to be in the bt plugin any more
Sep 16 20:41:31 <dwmw2_gone> ok, xmodmap work
Sep 16 20:41:44 <dwmw2_gone> still pops up when I tap on the screen, but I suppose it has to come up _some_ time :)
Sep 16 20:42:30 <pupnik> I would have preferred a dedicated vkbd button, that just brings up a generic xkbd
Sep 16 20:42:54 <dwmw2_gone> yeah
Sep 16 20:55:54 <DRoBeR> Em, I'm following http://maemo.org/development/sdks/maemo-3-x--bora-.html and when I try to install the maemo-explicit package it leaves this message "E: Package pkg-config has no installation candidate
Sep 16 20:55:54 <DRoBeR> "
Sep 16 20:55:57 <DRoBeR> :S
Sep 16 20:59:04 <Deformative> What is the differences between the compilers for scratchbox?
Sep 16 21:06:03 <DRoBeR> I'm reading: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2007-03-29.log.html
Sep 16 21:06:31 <DRoBeR> but there's no solution for me, just another people who have the same problem :P
Sep 16 21:35:30 <dwmw2_gone> hm, is there _any_ feed on http://www.virginradio.co.uk/listen/ that actually works?#
Sep 16 22:49:14 * ilan tries to upgrade his 770 to OS 2007.
Sep 16 23:08:08 <Deformative> Can the usb host mode be changed without the flasher?
Sep 16 23:08:19 <Deformative> Isn't there some onboard utility?
Sep 16 23:27:18 <pupnik> on 770 or N800?
Sep 16 23:41:08 <pupnik>  135384  boost
Sep 16 23:41:09 <pupnik> 1826220 boost86
Sep 16 23:41:12 <pupnik> good grief
Sep 16 23:43:03 <Deformative> pupnik: 770
Sep 16 23:43:46 <pupnik> i think so
Sep 16 23:50:55 <Deformative> So...
Sep 16 23:51:01 <Deformative> No one has ever compiled gcc?
Sep 16 23:51:08 <Deformative> For armel
Sep 17 00:16:20 <skibur> hum
Sep 17 00:16:39 <skibur> what is the most popular app on the N800?
Sep 17 00:27:23 <unique311> kagu
Sep 17 00:28:12 <unique311> skibur, you can check maemo.org, go to the garage, and see what is being downloaded the most.
Sep 17 00:28:49 <skibur> o cool
Sep 17 00:28:49 <unique311> top download, is maemo mapper
Sep 17 00:28:54 <skibur> didn't know about that
Sep 17 00:28:56 <skibur> thanks
Sep 17 00:29:10 <unique311> most active this week, video center
Sep 17 00:29:39 <skibur> uClinux for Nintendo DS is looking great
Sep 17 00:29:51 <skibur> it's call DSLinux
Sep 17 00:29:52 <skibur> :P
Sep 17 00:31:53 <unique311> not a ds owner..
Sep 17 01:35:19 <Deformative> ...
Sep 17 01:35:21 <Deformative> Where is everyone?
Sep 17 01:35:22 <_Monkey> everyone is a critic :)
Sep 17 01:44:25 <Deformative> How is it even possible that no one has tried onboard gcc?
Sep 17 02:13:06 * pupnik bounces
Sep 17 02:13:18 <Deformative> ?
Sep 17 02:13:53 <pupnik> managed to fix some dependency problems even though the required package wouldn't build
Sep 17 02:14:09 <Deformative> Oh.
Sep 17 02:14:13 <Deformative> Try to build gcc. :)
Sep 17 02:17:50 <[31d1]> isnt gcc in red pill mode?
Sep 17 02:18:18 <Deformative> g++ is, but I need to know how to build it.
Sep 17 02:18:32 <pupnik> some newer apps want a gcc > 3.4 i think
Sep 17 02:18:36 <pupnik> might be nice to have 4.1
Sep 17 02:18:40 <[31d1]> hmm, swear i saw that
Sep 17 02:18:41 <Deformative> Yeah
Sep 17 02:18:52 <[31d1]> i just still cant believe no one needed diff
Sep 17 02:18:55 <[31d1]> wtf
Sep 17 02:19:02 <Deformative> And if I cannot build gcc, I cannot build gdc
Sep 17 02:19:21 <pupnik> did you search maemo-devel?
Sep 17 02:20:33 <Deformative> Huh?
Sep 17 02:20:47 <pupnik> there is a mailing list
Sep 17 02:20:59 <Deformative> I will subscribe tomorrow.
Sep 17 02:21:05 <Deformative> I need to sleep now.
Sep 17 02:21:14 <pupnik> ok cheers
Sep 17 02:41:17 * pupnik runs the first build of pingus lemmings clone on the n770 :D
Sep 17 02:43:38 <[31d1]> ooooooo
Sep 17 02:43:42 <[31d1]> lemmings
Sep 17 02:55:03 <pupnik> starts up ok, sound+music works, but crashes
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