**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 21 02:59:57 2007 Sep 21 03:00:03 i havent installed anything on my 770 in weeks Sep 21 03:00:28 do an upgrade. it ain't bad. Sep 21 03:01:00 ah. I'm not cut out to be a packager. I just don't have the patience. Sep 21 03:01:33 I don't think I spelled that right. :( Sep 21 03:01:40 packages are for things with lots of files in lots of places Sep 21 03:01:59 i think a tgz for kagu is just fine, except for the lack of a menu entry :( Sep 21 03:02:44 lol. just run your app manager and go to updates. Sep 21 03:02:54 if kagu is already installed, that is. Sep 21 03:03:11 I'm talking about this samba package I'm trying to build. Sep 21 03:03:14 no fun. Sep 21 03:04:37 I think maemo should ship with a samba server and a control panel applet for configuring it. Sep 21 03:04:42 that would make sense. Sep 21 03:05:57 sparr: did you see the new VideoCenter application? Sep 21 03:06:15 no Sep 21 03:06:27 Sep 21 03:06:28 dunno if it's for the 770 or not. Sep 21 03:06:46 looks like IPTV for maemo. It's got an EPG and everything. Sep 21 03:06:54 neat Sep 21 03:07:22 So far it looks useless to me though. I don't know anything about IPTV. Sep 21 03:07:45 I've got MythTV, but it's b0rked in this release of VideoCenter. Sep 21 03:08:02 Looks like it's got potential though. Sep 21 03:48:37 anyone here a bluetooth expert? Sep 21 03:50:19 * Lateralus is master of the pan flute **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 21 04:34:50 2007 Sep 21 04:43:22 * pupnik is a jackass of all trades, master of none Sep 21 05:00:48 I have a big problem i download and install the aircrack-ng package v0.9 to my nokia n770 , i run the aircrack , airdump , and airmon , but the aireplay "not found".. some idea?? Sep 21 05:58:04 I' ve been trying to set up a development environment under Debian sid, unsuccessfully. Does scratxhbox2 work at all? Sep 21 05:59:03 maybe I' m being too anal, but I wanted to do as little as possible outside the distro, and scratchbox1 seems not to be available in sid Sep 21 07:25:46 erstazi: sid here - yes it works Sep 21 07:25:56 oh sry Sep 21 07:40:02 <_stfn_> Mh... anyone knows how long it should take the N800 to show _any_ livesigns when being attached to the charger given that the battery was completely empty before? Sep 21 07:40:31 <_stfn_> I've read, that the charging is controlled by software and so it takes longer, if there's no more power left on the battery to boot. Sep 21 07:49:01 I've seen it take a minute or so. Sep 21 07:49:14 one advantage to dim room lighting is that mosquitos are drawn to your monitor glow, where you can kill them easily Sep 21 07:49:50 Morning, all Sep 21 07:51:29 hi, one Sep 21 07:52:59 so no success on figuring out how to do a hair-trigger screenshot applet, or one that runs from command line Sep 21 07:53:48 looking at xmd and mh-shot-tool and haven't figured out how they do the magic yet Sep 21 07:54:01 too impatient i am Sep 21 07:57:35 hair-trigger ? Sep 21 07:57:50 hi, is there some reference where I can look up, which adresses on the n 770 are related to which driver and stuff like that? Sep 21 07:58:29 <_stfn_> roope: Well, then I'm screwed... device has been plugged in for ~20 minutes, no sign of life... Sep 21 08:01:15 i need to screenshot some display errors in software to show the dosbox developers Sep 21 08:01:42 and it flashes by pretty fast - maybe i should just see about pausing dosbox Sep 21 08:06:55 pupnik: osso-screenshot-tool runs from the command line and has been available since IT OS 2005 Sep 21 08:07:37 thanks! Sep 21 08:16:12 <`0660> stfn, just keep charging it Sep 21 08:32:13 <_stfn_> `0660: For how long approximately? Any guess? Sep 21 08:32:40 <_stfn_> I just wonder when I'll have to the further steps, like calling the nice lady at Nokia again... Sep 21 08:33:42 no life for 20 minutes? could be the charger that is broken Sep 21 08:33:48 <_stfn_> Nope, tried several ones. Sep 21 08:33:59 you probably need a new battery then Sep 21 08:34:02 <_stfn_> My guess would be a) Battery b) Device... Sep 21 08:34:23 the kind of batteries in today cellphones are pretty sensitive Sep 21 08:34:46 overcharge them and they die permanently, let them run to dry and they die permanently Sep 21 08:35:04 <_stfn_> I'll keep it on the charger for another hour, then I'll probably try to get a replacement from a Nokia Service Point Sep 21 08:35:20 they have built in failsafes to stop charging before they get too high, or turn themselves off before they get too low Sep 21 08:35:35 but if those failsafes fail, then there is nothing you can do Sep 21 08:36:03 <_stfn_> Mh... well, yeah. But actually shouldn't the device power on when being plugged in? Sep 21 08:36:14 yes, it should Sep 21 08:36:20 <_stfn_> I doesn't. Sep 21 08:36:24 <_stfn_> I -> It Sep 21 08:36:30 <_stfn_> Which makes me worry. Sep 21 08:36:44 if you want to, I can try mine without a battery in, see what happens Sep 21 08:37:01 <_stfn_> If you got a minute, this would be great to know Sep 21 08:38:53 nope, it didn't turn on Sep 21 08:39:57 <_stfn_> Okay, thanks. So a broken battery would explain all symptons. Which is good, as a new battery will actually cost me less money than a new N800... Sep 21 08:42:56 in either case you would still get a new one, warranty and all, wouldn't you? Sep 21 08:44:12 <_stfn_> Well, the N800 isn't even out for a year... so yes, I guess so. Sep 21 08:46:12 in the EU at least they have to give you 3 years for manufactural errors (that is, if it breaks under totally normal usage and you can proove that you didn't drop it on the floor or something) Sep 21 08:46:54 <_stfn_> I live in Switzerland, so I don't know if this applies here as well. Sep 21 08:47:27 <_stfn_> However, as it's not even a year since the release, this shouldn't be a problem. Sep 21 09:07:10 just reinstalled becomeroot Sep 21 09:07:15 now when i go to do sudo gainroot i get: Sep 21 09:07:33 cal_read_block(r&d_mode): size zero, block not found? Sep 21 09:07:42 Enable RD mode if you want to break your device Sep 21 09:09:02 just give your user permission to do sudo su in the sudoers file Sep 21 09:09:37 of course you have to be root do to this :P Sep 21 09:10:25 well then, im kind of stuck with that aren't i :P Sep 21 09:10:35 or just install the ssh server Sep 21 09:10:39 and ssh to root@localhost Sep 21 09:10:59 password is rootme if you haven't changed it Sep 21 09:11:12 no i dont think i have Sep 21 09:15:11 gah i need to be root to install it? Sep 21 09:15:25 maybe not Sep 21 09:16:12 package is incompatible with current software Sep 21 09:21:48 unable to install :/ Sep 21 09:22:18 brilliant Sep 21 09:22:21 no public key apparently Sep 21 09:44:19 So shiny: Sep 21 09:44:27 http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=3104&p=2 Sep 21 09:55:32 yeah I've been waiting for the eeePC for months Sep 21 09:56:19 I'm trying to work out if the black or white looks better, and if I'll still want an N800 if I have an Eee Sep 21 09:58:13 apple charges extra for black, so it must be better ;) Sep 21 10:09:25 hello, is there documentation for sobexsrv somewhere? Sep 21 10:23:51 <_stfn_> TPC: Got a new battery - seems to be working, as it's fully loaded. The only thing I worry about now is that I don't get a "Plugged in" Icon in the upper right corner when charging. Sep 21 10:34:31 trying to install openssh-server from application manager Sep 21 10:34:48 i flashed my tablet so its completely empty but ive got 'unable to install' Sep 21 10:35:26 /var/lib/dpkg/info/openssh-server.postinst: 308: cannot create /etc/ssh/sshd_config: Directory nonexistent Sep 21 10:35:49 dpkg: error processing openssh-server (--configure): Sep 21 10:36:00 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2 Sep 21 10:36:11 hum Sep 21 10:36:11 what can i do? Sep 21 10:36:23 offhand that sounds like a bug in the postinst script, but... Sep 21 10:36:52 but? Sep 21 10:37:21 um, but nothing :) Sep 21 10:37:38 how do i install openssh then? Sep 21 10:37:50 maybe go root and mkdir /etc/ssh and see if it works then? Sep 21 10:37:57 the install that is Sep 21 10:38:03 ok cheers Sep 21 10:38:16 and file a bug on the package ...where-ever it takes bugs, I guess Sep 21 10:41:23 ive enabled redpill mode and trying to install 'ssh' now Sep 21 10:42:51 which has worked Sep 21 10:45:04 man Sep 21 10:45:12 doesnt have a persistent connection at all Sep 21 10:45:17 i have to hit refres in the browser for my ssh to work Sep 21 10:47:49 is there a way to fix that Sep 21 11:25:00 is it normal for the device to only allow pings and ssh'ing when there is an active session on the tablet? Sep 21 11:25:15 e.g. i can only do anything over ssh while i keep hitting refresh on the browser Sep 21 11:25:21 and i cant ping unless i do the same Sep 21 11:48:08 Does anybody have any idea why my Xephyr display of scratchbox has unbelievably small font size? Sep 21 11:49:13 dpi ? Sep 21 11:49:36 do you start it with -dpi 96 ? Sep 21 11:49:39 Oh dear! Sep 21 11:53:02 i've got a bit of a (stupid) problem. I'm trying to draw a pixbuf on screen on window expose_event (kind of splash screen on window show), but the best I get is gray screen. Sep 21 11:53:20 I take a screenshot of the background, do stuff to it and try to show it... Sep 21 11:54:33 now the stupid part: can the drawing be done in root window?-) Sep 21 12:19:36 afternoon all Sep 21 13:00:36 Does anyone have an example debian/rules file for packaging python apps? Sep 21 13:26:48 Snig178: https://coherence.beebits.net/browser/sandbox/Compere/debian - works for me Sep 21 14:11:20 Well .. There's some consistency for you 'HILDON_TELEPHONE_EDITOR_TYPE' :/ Sep 21 14:11:39 * alterego wonders whether that was intentional .. Sep 21 14:24:07 Is there a CPU/memory monitor for OS 2007? Sep 21 14:29:54 osso-statusbar-cpu? Sep 21 14:29:55 <_Monkey> i heard osso-statusbar-cpu was at http://www.maemo-hackers.org/wiki/OssoStatusbarCpu Sep 21 14:30:09 :) Sep 21 14:32:58 Hmm. The 2007 version wasn't visible when browsing maemo's web list. And I have maemo-hackers repository but it didn't show there. Sep 21 14:33:14 2007 version is really nice Sep 21 14:36:36 What is maemo-hackers name for app components? "FIXME" is shown in http://maemo.org/community/wiki/applicationrepositories/ Sep 21 14:36:47 no idea but i'll find out Sep 21 14:37:01 i updated my simple-launcher btw, not recommending it. the icon spacings are too narrow now. can't be used with fingers unless you use huge icons Sep 21 14:37:39 bora / main Sep 21 14:39:14 the applications FIXME is for the available apps list Sep 21 14:39:21 you don't need that to add the catalogue Sep 21 14:40:45 Oh. osso-statusbar-cpu is showing in App Mgr. Don't know how I overlooked it. Sep 21 14:49:11 I configured osso-statusbar-cpu in Control Panel, but I don't see it anywhere. Sep 21 15:00:34 SE-Wilco2: you have to enable the icon in statusbar Sep 21 15:00:58 from cp / navigation / status bar Sep 21 15:05:58 Aha. That's how statusbar is controlled. Thanks. Sep 21 15:10:11 Oh, good. Opera's "connecting" bouncing blue stripe does not eat CPU. Unlike some browsers' busy indicator. Sep 21 15:11:12 you also can't make it go faster by trying to do more actions Sep 21 15:11:16 which is just boring Sep 21 15:13:19 What is the risk of upgrading Nokia N800 to IT OS 2007 version(<10%?)? My friend upgraded N770 to new version and his device went blank(WSoD)! :( Sep 21 15:16:09 Mine updated to 2007 OK, as have others. I don't know what the odds are, but hope Nokia would not have released it if there was a high probability of failure. Sep 21 15:23:54 SE-Wilco2, ok, thanks. Can the updated 2007 version be installed parallel to the currently installed version, say on a different SD card? Sep 21 15:26:22 I don't know. Anyone know if one can download OS 2007 and install it on an SD card without flashing it internally? Sep 21 15:27:16 dorto: The N800 doesn't suffer from the WSOD problem and most/all N800s have been flashed without any problem. Sep 21 15:27:25 (I'm running from SD card 1, but I copied its OS from the internal) Sep 21 15:27:36 how fast are rs-mmc cards? 80mb is taking ages to copy over Sep 21 15:28:11 N800 only does USB 1.1, IIRC. That is slow. Sep 21 15:28:55 just the card though Sep 21 15:30:17 Those are quite fast, I think. Sep 21 15:30:51 I'm using it with the little adapter thing and the sd card reader in my laptop and it's quite slow (~100KB/s) Sep 21 15:31:46 The card reader may have a slow bus. Have you tried it with another card that would be faster? Sep 21 15:37:17 I don't recall feeliing it was particularly slow when I used a regular sd card Sep 21 15:39:35 Thanks SE-Wilco2, Jaffa, I will upgrade it then. I don't live in US so was a bit scared if the servicing situation would come up. Sep 21 15:39:58 Both my SD cards works at ~5 MBPS Sep 21 15:40:17 the spec was ~12mpbs but 5mbps is quite good. Sep 21 15:59:24 N800's USB 2 - it was 770 which was USB 1.1 IIRC Sep 21 16:05:30 morning everyone Sep 21 16:11:20 morning Sep 21 16:11:21 <_Monkey> aloha Sep 21 16:26:01 I downloaded a video from google video and used the Media Converter to have it 770 customized Sep 21 16:26:19 however, the generated file (avi) can't be reproduced by the 770 video player Sep 21 16:26:35 comments, suggestions anyone? Sep 21 16:26:38 saaib: reproduced? Sep 21 16:26:48 zeenix, played, viewed Sep 21 16:27:26 last time i used the media converter it was intended to make video for mplayer Sep 21 16:27:33 I have the avi file available on an apache web server, on the 770 I open the stream type in the url and the media complains it can't play the file Sep 21 16:28:26 mhh.. so the default media player won't play it? well, now that I have the AVI file, what should I do to convert it so the 770 media player can play it? Sep 21 16:28:42 i am not sure what the standard media player can handle. Sep 21 16:30:25 the discovery video that comes with the 770 has a mime type video/x-msvideo, is that a wma? Sep 21 16:31:24 mhh, its a Video for Windows (AVI) Sep 21 16:31:47 avi is just a container format, you also need codec information Sep 21 16:32:20 google maemo media player supported codecs or something like that Sep 21 16:36:36 video successfully converted using Nokia Media Converter N770 should play with the default N800 media player Sep 21 16:37:09 can you paste the video details somewhere and link here? say, using GSpot on Windows? Sep 21 16:39:27 Media Converter should convert it to MPEG at correct resolution(400x240 etc) Sep 21 16:43:54 well this is strange.. Sep 21 16:43:59 browser starts and within seconds Sep 21 16:43:59 it quits Sep 21 16:44:58 if i run browser.launch from xterm Sep 21 16:45:02 i get 'segmentation fault' Sep 21 16:48:37 how come the default video player doesnt like 400*240 anyway Sep 21 16:56:10 the 770 is not a PC. It has limited capacity for video playback. Mplayer is a highly advanced and optimized hack that does 'more than it should be able to do' on that device. Sep 21 16:57:39 dorto, Media Converter convert the file from mp4 to avi, I'll upload the video Sep 21 17:00:17 hi Sep 21 17:00:28 . Sep 21 17:06:06 I wrote an applet, I can put it onto the desktop but if I try to select any of the applet later, tablet hangs az layout mode. After a reboot the half of the desktop is messed up. After another reboot, the whole desktop is a mess :) After removing my applet with ssh , it will be fine Sep 21 17:06:28 I select these settings: 400x240, frame rate: 29fps, bitrate: ~70kbps and all the videos play without any problem on default media player(no MPlayer required). Sep 21 17:06:48 omg, the video is now playing :S I guess the first time I uploaded the file got corrupted somehow Sep 21 17:07:31 What's wrong with my code? Where to start? :) Sep 21 17:10:59 latzko, did you try your applet in sandbox(that comes with developer SDK) first? Is it working there? Sep 21 17:11:10 saaib: great :) Sep 21 17:12:34 dorto, yes, it works fine in sbox Sep 21 17:13:56 latzko, hmmm. that's a toughie then :( Sep 21 17:16:31 dorto, did you use those setting on the Video converter application? Sep 21 17:17:21 Not needed if you use Media Converter to conver the videos. Just select the quality you want and it will create compatible video. Sep 21 17:17:42 I need to use those settings if I want to use another conversion tool, say AutoGK or HandBrake. Sep 21 17:23:28 hi Sep 21 17:47:56 hi all!!! Sep 21 17:48:31 how could I open the menu using command line on my N800? Sep 21 17:52:50 any idea? Sep 21 17:53:26 Alecrim: i'm not sure if there's a dbus method to call Sep 21 17:53:35 but if there is one, then you can use dbus-send Sep 21 17:53:41 btw i'm just guessing Sep 21 17:55:26 bedboi : thanks you very much !! how can I find the dbus method? any idea? Sep 21 17:56:12 <[31d1]> run dbus-monitor --system and see what it spits out when you do whatever Sep 21 17:56:29 yep Sep 21 17:59:56 you could probably fake a keypress Sep 21 18:00:09 * sp3000 isn't sure about the dependencies on that Sep 21 18:00:31 * nomis probably would synthesize a mouseclick. Sep 21 18:00:53 in fullscreen? Sep 21 18:01:02 depends on the case :) Sep 21 18:04:09 sp3000: it's not in fullscreen Sep 21 18:04:50 e.g. http://projects.o-hand.com/xresponse can do clicks Sep 21 18:07:20 I tested xresponse, but not the version you're showing me. Sep 21 18:08:14 sp3000: I'll test it with xresponse(version indicated) Sep 21 18:18:41 sp3000: sorry!! I'm wrong. I was using xautomation to automate clicks Sep 21 18:19:08 I'll test xresponse Sep 21 18:22:56 * sp3000 spins the angel and the dark river Sep 21 18:23:05 (relevant sp3000 is relevant) Sep 21 18:28:21 anybody got a sdl-ttf 2.0.7 for osso? Sep 21 18:34:04 xresponse does not work with menu Sep 21 18:50:09 built libsdl-ttf2.0-dev_2.0.8-3_armel.deb Sep 21 18:54:05 had to pull out the opengl stuff Sep 21 19:22:13 mmap2(NULL, 69632, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40844000 Sep 21 19:22:28 that means it wants to map 69632 kbytes ? Sep 21 19:23:26 void * mmap2(void *start, size_t length, int prot, int flags, int fd, off_t pgoffset); Sep 21 19:23:27 so yeah Sep 21 19:23:30 (from the mmap2 manpage) Sep 21 19:40:28 how do i edit applicationcatalog wishlist wiki? i am logged in Sep 21 19:40:32 https://maemo.org/community/wiki/ApplicationCatalogWishlist#83de191c12c3c109006c4593128d8bb6 Sep 21 19:40:44 i can find no link to click on to edit incorrect/outdated stuff Sep 21 19:47:24 pupnik: do you have javascript turned on? Sep 21 19:47:54 pupnik: if you have javascript turned on, you will have a menu that you can move around the screen. Sep 21 19:48:36 it doesn't seem to appear if you load the page initially with an anchor Sep 21 19:48:49 or it's picked a clever spot to hide Sep 21 19:48:49 ok thanks Sep 21 19:49:17 * sp3000 asks domi where it is Sep 21 19:51:41 * sp3000 wonders wth javascript:alert(window.scrollY) says 0 when it's clearly not 0 Sep 21 19:52:02 no wonder my autoscroll bookmarklet doesn't work on these Sep 21 19:52:07 midgard does some strange stuff Sep 21 19:58:23 in konqueror it appears the first time but not reload on an anchor Sep 21 19:58:25 wee Sep 21 20:00:30 sp3000: I have never been a fan of midguard... but they know the people, its right down the road from nokia I guess /: Sep 21 20:03:02 hello, I want to see kernel messages over a serial port on my N800 any hints on how to do it Sep 21 20:04:29 khem: someone else asked this a few days ago Sep 21 20:04:58 khem: I don't remember the answer but google could be your friend to find it on the logs, they are accessible online Sep 21 20:04:59 erstazi: there seems to be some pads besides the battery Sep 21 20:05:22 that can be used but I dont know which pin is what Sep 21 20:07:05 USB->RS232? Sep 21 20:09:18 alterego: what would it take to get serial over USB Sep 21 20:10:13 khem, hostmode possible a powered HUB and a USB-RS232 adapter. Sep 21 20:10:22 That's supported by Linux. Sep 21 20:10:38 And possibly a driver kernel module for said adapter. Sep 21 20:15:09 alterego: kernel module might load pretty late Sep 21 20:15:23 in the boot process Sep 21 20:16:02 Well, custom kernel then :/ Sep 21 20:16:32 Though, the module can be loaded as soon as linuxrc is executed from the initrd if you like. Sep 21 20:16:55 Otherwise yeah. If you want the kernel boot process too then you'll have to have it built in. Sep 21 20:17:17 [Switching to Thread 16384 (LWP 1763)] Sep 21 20:17:17 SoftRenderSurface::Fill32 (this=0x1eb670, Sep 21 20:17:17 rgb=65535, sx=17, sy=224, w=2, h=8) at memset_n.h:130 Sep 21 20:17:17 130 memset_n.h: No such file or directory. Sep 21 20:17:17 in memset_n.h Sep 21 20:23:07 ah an alignment issue Sep 21 20:27:08 Hello boys Sep 21 20:27:34 I am using the nokia 770 Sep 21 20:28:10 I got a little problem with it Sep 21 20:28:45 does not start streaming in vorbis *.ogg Sep 21 20:28:55 only mp3 Sep 21 20:29:33 I downloaded ogg vorbis player Sep 21 20:29:46 I installed it Sep 21 20:30:41 When i founded the voice stream i putted the http Sep 21 20:31:58 and now is locked without doing nothing and without give a reply, it remains totally white why ? Sep 21 20:41:42 Then it is impossibile to visit other pages when i am downloading something i must to wait any time that fiinish the download to be sure that have downloaded all, many times happen it stops, or download any parts of all without i said to stop it it does himself Sep 21 20:44:21 now i got the battery down i must close the connection i must turn back to home to charge the battery and take my dinner Sep 21 20:46:24 I invite all of you to visit http://richardwarriors.net Sep 21 20:46:34 Bye bye paolo Sep 21 21:30:00 _Monkey: pentagram is an open-source game engine to play Origin System's "Ultima 8 - Pagan" role-playing game. It is still in development - svn ports available at http://pupnik.de/pentagram.html Sep 21 21:30:00 <_Monkey> OK, pupnik. Sep 21 21:30:12 hi Sep 21 21:42:12 mhh.. what is the source problem when trying to start the 770, then the Nokia logo displays, the scrollbar move a little and then it turns off Sep 21 21:42:46 maybe corrupt fs Sep 21 21:42:47 battery was full last time I turned on successfully Sep 21 21:43:30 see, now that i try to turn it on it doesn't even show the nokia logo Sep 21 21:48:23 removed battery, re-connect it, plugged in the power connector cable now it shows the battery charging icon Sep 21 21:48:29 man, what a mess Sep 21 21:50:12 does anyone knows if invernation is enabled in the 770 kernel? Sep 21 21:50:44 I turn it on and it immediately showed the two hand and starting sound screen Sep 21 21:50:55 no scrollbar or nokia logo Sep 21 21:54:54 12-16 fps walking with mouse :) Sep 21 21:54:58 awesome... Sep 21 21:55:01 <[31d1]> did you put weird stuff in your .profile? Sep 21 21:55:10 <[31d1]> saaib ^ Sep 21 21:56:09 [31d1], no, I haven't mess with .profile or any other file, I was looking at a video, then i closed the video player, and while the main screen I turn it of Sep 21 21:56:39 <[31d1]> :( sounds not-so-good Sep 21 21:57:21 so, what do you do when you won't be using your 770 or 800? turn it off or just cover the screen? Sep 21 21:57:43 <[31d1]> i usually just cover the screen Sep 21 21:57:56 <[31d1]> depends on how often you use it Sep 21 21:58:21 only at nights (except today) Sep 21 21:58:24 <[31d1]> i'm always sshing into it and messing with it so i dont turn it fully off a lot Sep 21 21:59:37 is there a doc on how to add menu entries? Sep 21 22:00:07 <[31d1]> was your battery low when you turned it off - some reports about turning it off when battery is low causing trouble Sep 21 22:01:19 [31d1], before turning it off I saw the battery icon as "full" Sep 21 22:01:26 <[31d1]> ok then not that Sep 21 22:01:30 bearclaw_: menu? Sep 21 22:02:33 where all aps go Sep 21 22:02:38 http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/3-x/howto_making_an_application_package_bora.html Sep 21 22:02:52 what I want to start is a qt app Sep 21 22:03:06 <[31d1]> you can moe stuff around in control panel Sep 21 22:03:48 [31d1], what you mean move stuff around? I just launched control panel Sep 21 22:04:24 <[31d1]> task manager i think Sep 21 22:04:51 <[31d1]> that was for bearclaw_ Sep 21 22:05:09 [31d1], hehe ok :) Sep 21 22:05:24 <[31d1]> sry saaib i have no further ideas - if i were you i'd be trying to reflash Sep 21 22:05:56 how mature is 2007HE to use it in a 770? Sep 21 22:06:07 aha ok a .desktop with an exec entry is enough Sep 21 22:08:19 [31d1], about the low battery issue, what's the problem and how to solve it? Sep 21 22:09:08 <[31d1]> i feel like they said you turn it off and let it charge for a couple hours before trying to turn it back on Sep 21 22:10:28 good LORD it's even fast with scale2x Sep 21 22:10:29 9-14fps Sep 21 22:32:23 Is there an IRC client with text-to-speech output? I suppose I could pipe the text IRC client to flite. Sep 21 22:33:28 a simple way would be to turn logging on, then tail -f logfile | flite Sep 21 22:33:59 Good point. Sep 21 22:34:52 Gaim doesn't seem stable on OS 2007, so I might have to pick a new client anyway. At least logging is a nearly universal option. Sep 21 22:46:55 SE-Wilco2, why aren't you using Pidgin? Sep 21 22:48:11 I've had bad luck with Pidgin on Windows and Pidgin is still marked Beta with installation difficulties on N800. I've been using Gaim for years. Sep 21 22:48:21 s/Windows/MS-Windows/ Sep 21 22:48:21 SE-Wilco2 meant: I've had bad luck with Pidgin on MS-Windows and Pidgin is still marked Beta with installation difficulties on N800. I've been using Gaim for years. Sep 21 22:54:50 s/bad luck/crashes/ Sep 21 22:54:50 SE-Wilco2 meant: I've had crashes with Pidgin on Windows and Pidgin is still marked Beta with installation difficulties on N800. I've been using Gaim for years. Sep 21 22:55:03 s/SE-Wilco2/SE-Wilco/ Sep 21 22:55:44 * SE-Wilco2 observes it won't recurse. Sep 21 23:23:29 Offical Announcement: Ruby/Maemo: http://maemo.rubyx.co.uk/projects/ruby-maemo Sep 21 23:23:30 :) Sep 21 23:24:25 hice Sep 21 23:25:49 Now to read up more about SVN :) Sep 21 23:26:01 I'm loving it so far ^_^ Sep 21 23:43:22 very nice to have new people contributing stuff, alterego Sep 21 23:43:42 don't be disappointed if the response isn't overwhelming - it's a small community compared to pc-land Sep 21 23:43:55 Yeah, I know :) Sep 21 23:44:09 Besides, I'm not sure my server could handle any significant load ;) Sep 21 23:44:17 Lets hope I don't get slashdot'd ^_^ Sep 21 23:51:29 does anyone know what is the status of maemo webkit port? Sep 21 23:52:34 ruby... Sep 21 23:53:29 Ruby! Sep 21 23:55:45 was hoping the monkey had a response to it.. Sep 22 00:06:06 monkey? Sep 22 00:06:07 <_Monkey> somebody said monkey was a not-very-smart bot Sep 22 00:06:19 Ah, monkey .. Sep 22 00:11:58 lol, just checked out the first computer RPG game i played in 1980 -- What cost $34.99 in 1980 would cost $93.69 in 2006. Sep 22 00:16:47 alterego: did you add your debs to the garage? Sep 22 00:17:03 No, Sep 22 00:17:08 downloading them pretty slow Sep 22 00:17:49 I'll looik into it. Sep 22 00:17:55 k Sep 22 00:18:12 probably being downloaded by alot of people right now. Sep 22 00:18:23 lots of lurkers in here.. Sep 22 00:18:52 What's the rate you're getting? Sep 22 00:19:12 7Kb.s Sep 22 00:19:24 Urgh :/ Sep 22 00:19:27 usually in the 400 Sep 22 00:20:22 rubyforge has lots of little apps i want to see if they compile with your release.. Sep 22 00:20:51 Cool. Sep 22 00:21:14 being a newly addict to sudoku Sep 22 00:21:14 Unfortunately, rubygems is _extremely_ slow, In fact, I wouldn't use it at all on the devices. Sep 22 00:21:37 :) Sep 22 00:21:53 i'll see how sudoku goes... Sep 22 00:26:57 alterego: guess this message means it needs Qt? Sep 22 00:27:00 rsudoku.rb:3:in `require': no such file to load -- Qt (LoadError) Sep 22 00:27:59 Yes Sep 22 00:28:09 Maybe you could port it to hildon ;) Sep 22 00:28:15 /gtk :) Sep 22 00:32:35 Blarg. Sep 22 00:38:59 pupnik: Is that the eBay price of that RPG game? Sep 22 00:52:54 nah it was the original sale price in 1980 Sep 22 00:53:14 adjusted for inflatino to 2006 figures (and that number is in reality about 20% too low) Sep 22 00:55:07 what happened with gimp/gimpshop unique311 ? is someone working on it? Sep 22 00:58:48 no... Sep 22 00:59:05 ok Sep 22 00:59:06 i was told by the guys at #gimp it would never work. Sep 22 00:59:23 heheh Sep 22 00:59:30 plus only like real old versions of gimp would run on the n800 Sep 22 00:59:39 so they didn't want to bother.. Sep 22 00:59:42 did you show them a screenshot? Sep 22 00:59:47 yes Sep 22 00:59:55 :) Sep 22 00:59:57 new version would compile but not run Sep 22 01:00:09 ah Sep 22 01:01:12 Why not? Sep 22 01:01:32 never bothered with it to find out. Sep 22 01:01:44 it would crash after the splash Sep 22 01:01:58 2.0 ran Sep 22 01:02:07 video on youtube still Sep 22 01:02:10 yeah... just curious Sep 22 01:02:39 did you look get any menu items repositioned for touchmegames? Sep 22 01:02:45 it needs a quit button :) Sep 22 01:04:19 Hmm. Sep 22 01:04:30 The 770 uses the gnueabi, correct? Sep 22 01:10:13 Someone answer? Sep 22 01:10:50 not yet they haven't. Sep 22 01:11:13 What abi does it use now? Sep 22 01:11:17 Anybody know if there's a way to associate the camera opening signal with a different program than GChat. Sep 22 01:11:37 Deformati: no idea. Sep 22 01:13:32 For some reason when the Camera program is running then opening the camera does not seem to waken GChat. Sep 22 01:14:53 Hmm, google says OS2006 uses eabi, but that makes no sense since gcc 3 does not have eabi. Sep 22 01:14:54 Ugh. Sep 22 01:14:58 * Deformati is pissed off. Sep 22 01:23:34 strange there's no xmkmf / imake in gregale.. Sep 22 01:24:29 It's in gconf Sep 22 01:25:16 hmm ty Sep 22 01:26:25 so i installed gconf2 gconf2 (2.6.4.15-osso4) . libgconf2-6 (2.6.4.15-osso4) libgconf2-dev (2.6.4.15-osso4) Sep 22 01:26:39 make: xmkmf: Command not found Sep 22 01:27:31 and there's no "imake" Sep 22 01:29:31 so what do i do? change the build system of my app'? Sep 22 01:35:59 hah, just use xmkmf/imake from the host system... seems to work Sep 22 01:36:24 with a bit of backtracking afterwards Sep 22 01:37:30 alterego: any comments on this? Sep 22 02:16:51 i have a big problem about aircrack.. i execute the "aireplay-ng" in the xterm in my n770 , and this " not found " some idea? Sep 22 02:22:20 built tmw_0.0.23-2_armel.deb Sep 22 02:22:29 alucardo_6666: i think it is not included Sep 22 02:22:47 ok Thank you pupnik Sep 22 02:24:06 pupnik you not have the tmw_0.0.23-2_armel.deb =P ? Sep 22 02:24:14 xD srry i need try.. Sep 22 02:26:28 i just built it Sep 22 02:26:43 somebody made it already? Sep 22 02:27:17 "impossible install , packake incompatible" Sep 22 02:27:36 T,T Sep 22 02:27:38 where did you get tmw? Sep 22 02:27:44 http://ftp.gnuab.org/pub/debian-hurd/pool-armel/main/t/tmw/ Sep 22 02:28:22 i download , but this package is no compatible Sep 22 02:28:25 wow nice Sep 22 02:28:39 i didn't know there was an armel Sep 22 02:29:04