**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Sep 22 02:59:56 2007 Sep 22 04:30:09 The Mana World is a free online role-playing game... http://pupnik.de/tmw_0_23_nokia_770.jpg Sep 22 04:30:48 ... and ya don't stop Sep 22 04:31:02 you got mana world working on the IT?!?!?! Sep 22 04:31:31 network problem right now - can U help? Sep 22 04:31:43 probably not...but what's theproblem anyway? Sep 22 04:31:54 d/n connect to account server Sep 22 04:32:12 it connects to the update server and downloads updates Sep 22 04:32:15 that you, ArnimS? Sep 22 04:32:18 then i see a Sep 22 04:32:18 yes Sep 22 04:32:27 then i see a CLOSE_WAIT on the server connection Sep 22 04:32:32 and no error in the log Sep 22 04:32:46 so i'll probably have to wait until i can work with one of the core devs Sep 22 04:32:53 do you have a n800 iball? Sep 22 04:32:57 excellent..hello. I see you've been busy lately porting over apps....hmm...have you wiresharked it yet to sniff the traffic? Sep 22 04:33:07 not yet Sep 22 04:33:18 i don't know the code well enough to learn much anyway Sep 22 04:34:49 run wireshark on a PC/Mac that's hooked up to a hub connected to both your internet connection and wi-fi AP and filter it for theIP address of the IT so you can see EXACTLY what's happening on the wire. Sep 22 04:35:13 yeah good call Sep 22 04:35:36 I don't have a hub here and no layer 3 switch to setup a monitoringport on or I would take a stab at it for you. Sep 22 04:37:32 hold a minute and i can get the stuff uploaded Sep 22 04:38:11 how is xu4 working out? Is it "compatible" with the xkb you used for DOSBOX U4? Sep 22 04:38:36 Going to load up Pentagram as soon as my U8 download finished. Sep 22 04:39:54 anyone here know EXACTLY how to get the RTCOMM beta working right with Asterisk PBX? Sep 22 04:42:26 http://pupnik.de/tmw.html Sep 22 04:42:48 haven't played with xu4 in ages - always use the bt keybd for that stuff Sep 22 04:43:14 yeah i only had time to test pentagram for a few minutes Sep 22 04:43:23 but it's wicked fast Sep 22 04:43:37 no comparison to exult Sep 22 04:45:46 Hey Arnim, I see you "skipped" Ultima 6. Any reason? There's code out there for it. http://nuvie.sourceforge.net Sep 22 04:46:18 pentagram is faster than Exult?!?! Or are you saying xu4 is faster? Sep 22 04:46:49 pentagram is way faster than exult Sep 22 04:47:04 i have nuvie compiled here but i don't remember what didn't work with it Sep 22 04:48:55 looking at the progress page it seems it's not finished yet. Sep 22 04:49:18 My favorite trick... Sep 22 04:49:21 How to kill Lord British Sep 22 04:49:21 Find, buy, steal or dial up a GLASS SWORD. (Item #48) Sep 22 04:49:21 Wait until Lord British is asleep in bed at night. Sep 22 04:49:21 Do not wake him, or he will kill you. Sep 22 04:49:22 Now, creep up to him and ATTACK him with the GLASS SWORD. Sep 22 04:49:22 Steal his stuff and take the Throne. That's fixed the bastard! Sep 22 04:53:01 heh i remember reading about that Sep 22 05:02:15 nuvie / ultima 6 running now Sep 22 05:02:24 holy crap, you got it running?!?! Sep 22 05:02:29 yep Sep 22 05:02:31 I just installed TMW now... Sep 22 05:02:53 nuvie has a lot of sloppy stuff that needs fixing up though Sep 22 05:02:55 but it runs Sep 22 05:03:00 what's the command to run TMW? Sep 22 05:03:08 oh oops Sep 22 05:03:11 /usr/games/tmw Sep 22 05:04:10 it runs...downloads the data Sep 22 05:04:42 argh....lemme get my BT keyboard out Sep 22 05:06:32 TMW works! Sep 22 05:06:39 ?!?! Sep 22 05:06:53 awesome Sep 22 05:07:07 Instead of trying to login as an existing character I just created a new one....I'm in the castle starter room now...moving around with BT arrow keys Sep 22 05:07:23 are you on an n800? Sep 22 05:07:27 yup Sep 22 05:07:30 maybe that's it? Sep 22 05:07:44 You should try adjusting the screen size or something... Sep 22 05:07:44 you clicked register to set up a new character? Sep 22 05:07:48 yup Sep 22 05:07:53 i did - 800x480 fullscreen Sep 22 05:07:57 register to setup a new character...try it on your N770 Sep 22 05:08:02 i did Sep 22 05:08:22 are some of the graphic elements below the bottom of the screen? Sep 22 05:08:46 nope...the full-screen key pops the little map on and off Sep 22 05:08:54 oh that doesn't work Sep 22 05:08:56 d-pad works for controlling the character Sep 22 05:09:06 hmm Sep 22 05:09:18 did you put the config.xml into ~/.tmw, or did you start without it Sep 22 05:09:31 I staerted without it Sep 22 05:09:35 started without it Sep 22 05:09:40 ok maybe that was the problem here Sep 22 05:09:41 maybe that's the problem? Sep 22 05:09:56 you can change 'screen' to 1 in config.xml to get fullscreen Sep 22 05:09:59 ah, great minds....actually, I plain ol' forgot about the config.xml file Sep 22 05:10:14 do you get any sound with the default config? Sep 22 05:10:24 took a screenshot...I'll look to see if it created a config.xml file Sep 22 05:10:29 no sound Sep 22 05:10:55 menu key pops up the inventory Sep 22 05:11:09 escape key pops up the "Do you wish to quit" dialog Sep 22 05:11:24 which I did to make sure it works...it does Sep 22 05:11:34 yeah we might need onscreen buttons for some commands Sep 22 05:11:49 thanks for testing! that made m y morning Sep 22 05:12:08 morning? You must be in Europe....it's 8 after midnight here Sep 22 05:12:25 what email address do I send my screenshot to? Sep 22 05:13:02 http://pupnik.de/fbk.html for the addy - don't post it here pls Sep 22 05:16:22 ok, check your email Sep 22 05:16:43 hows the scrolling speed? pretty chunky framerate? Sep 22 05:17:09 it's pretty damn fast! I'm impressed! Sep 22 05:17:18 about as fast as the PC/Mac cersion! Sep 22 05:17:20 version! Sep 22 05:17:24 nice Sep 22 05:17:38 ok, remove the config.xml from your page....it auto-generates one Sep 22 05:17:44 have you played tmw before? Sep 22 05:18:11 played it a little on the mac weeks ago when I first said in the forums someone should port it over Sep 22 05:18:14 if you know how to play, i'd appreciate your help in working out the bugs and stuff Sep 22 05:18:18 ok :) Sep 22 05:18:23 I know how to play Sep 22 05:18:41 the auto-generated config.xml file is EMPTY Sep 22 05:18:48 great - i'll fix up the debs so they work with app manager and then try to figure out what buttons to map Sep 22 05:18:59 yeah that's what i saw, so i figured i had to copy one in Sep 22 05:19:06 but - apparently not :) Sep 22 05:19:33 right - thanks for your help - let me know what buttons you want mapped please Sep 22 05:19:41 drop it in an email - i have to run now Sep 22 05:19:58 I'll let you know as well as dropping off a copy of my TMW.log to give you more detail Sep 22 05:20:48 Here's a tidbit of the log file... Sep 22 05:20:50 [05:01:32.35] State: CONNECTING Sep 22 05:20:51 [05:01:32.35] Memorizing selected character Nonya Sep 22 05:20:51 [05:01:32.35] Trying to connect to map server... Sep 22 05:20:51 [05:01:32.35] Map: new_3-1.gat Sep 22 05:20:52 [05:01:32.35] Network::Connecting to 81.161.192.4:5122 Sep 22 05:20:53 [05:01:32.52] Network::Started session with 81.161.192.4:532 Sep 22 05:20:54 [05:01:32.69] Unhandled packet: b0 Sep 22 05:20:55 [05:01:32.69] Unhandled packet: b0 Sep 22 05:20:57 [05:01:32.69] Unhandled packet: b0 Sep 22 05:20:59 [05:01:32.69] Protocol: Player start position: (29, 28), Direction: 1 Sep 22 05:21:01 [05:01:32.69] Unhandled packet: 97 Sep 22 05:21:03 [05:01:32.69] Unhandled packet: b0 Sep 22 05:21:05 [05:01:32.69] Unhandled packet: b0 Sep 22 05:21:07 [05:01:32.69] Unhandled packet: b0 Sep 22 05:21:09 [05:01:32.69] Unhandled packet: b0 Sep 22 05:21:13 [05:01:32.69] Unhandled packet: b0 Sep 22 05:21:15 [05:01:32.69] Unhandled packet: 8e Sep 22 05:21:17 [05:01:32.71] Sound::fadeOutMusic() Fading-out (1000 ms) Sep 22 05:21:19 [05:01:32.71] ResourceManager::release(graphics/images/login_wallpaper.png) Sep 22 05:21:21 [05:01:32.71] State: GAME Sep 22 05:21:23 [05:01:32.71] Window::Window("") Sep 22 05:21:54 still no sound though Sep 22 05:22:00 heh....flood Sep 22 05:31:47 Hello? Sep 22 05:34:58 Noone is here? Sep 22 05:40:19 ^U Sep 22 05:40:21 ? Sep 22 08:17:30 Morning, all Sep 22 08:22:21 hi there Sep 22 08:22:45 Is there any N800 user in here? Sep 22 08:53:50 BadRobot: wassup? Sep 22 09:14:01 * pupnik tasers the channel Sep 22 09:16:32 "Don't taser me, dude!" (or whatever it was he said) Sep 22 09:16:45 :) internet memes... Sep 22 09:17:13 of course, tasers have killed several people so far Sep 22 09:17:17 so it's not non-lethal Sep 22 09:21:17 what's so wonderful about information and open source Sep 22 09:21:21 is that the 'tragedy of the commons' does not apply Sep 22 09:21:24 you can create something, and it is forever an asset to humanity Sep 22 09:21:28 it can not be diminished by use Sep 22 09:21:34 only increased Sep 22 11:46:13 Hmmm .. Sep 22 11:46:22 Having trouble with the chinook beta SDK :/ Sep 22 13:40:39 hello Sep 22 13:40:39 <_Monkey> hey, rcknight Sep 22 13:40:55 hi all Sep 22 13:57:47 I am confused. Sep 22 13:58:15 If armel was introduced in gcc 4.1 how is gcc 3.4.4 included in scratchbox? Sep 22 14:15:02 Deformati: The gcc maemo uses is 3.x + loads of patches from CS Sep 22 14:15:21 Ah. Sep 22 14:15:22 I see. Sep 22 14:15:32 Well that is interesting. Sep 22 14:15:54 Is there any particular reason that 4.x is not used? Sep 22 14:16:29 I dunno, probably not. Sep 22 14:17:17 Have you ever compiled onboard gcc? Sep 22 14:18:09 GCC on target machines to me seems like a ridiculous waste of time so no :) Sep 22 14:18:47 Not if I want to fool around wherever I am. Sep 22 14:19:03 A lot of people use lisp and java on target machines. Sep 22 14:19:05 Why not D? Sep 22 14:19:13 or Python... Sep 22 14:19:14 <_Monkey> python is at pymaemo.garage.maemo.org! Sep 22 14:19:23 _Monkey: Shut up Sep 22 14:19:23 <_Monkey> zuh: excuse me? Sep 22 14:19:24 Yeah, another good example. Sep 22 14:20:20 man i love my n800 Sep 22 14:20:25 was great on holiday Sep 22 14:20:29 watching movies Sep 22 14:24:33 Well. Sep 22 14:24:44 Python is a little different I guess. Sep 22 14:25:05 Because you need the python interpreter to use apps it made. Sep 22 14:25:13 But whatever. Sep 22 14:25:14 <_Monkey> whatever is fun for you. More power to ya Sep 22 14:40:02 Yo, Arnim, you out there? Sep 22 14:44:59 does the maemo rss reader support ssl? Sep 22 14:45:23 i'd like to use it with my trac site. Sep 22 14:45:58 not 100% sure but i have a feeling that the old download code didnt support ssl .. Sep 22 14:46:58 latest trunk we have uses gnome-vfs for all the downloads so atleast in theory ssl might be supported in future atleast. Sep 22 14:48:33 thats in theory thou.. Sep 22 14:50:27 maybe i should modify my server to allow non ssl connections. Sep 22 15:11:42 Hmm. Sep 22 15:11:44 I am wondering. Sep 22 15:11:58 Can I get an armel cross compiler working without scratchbox? Sep 22 15:12:11 Because scratchbox does not work on my os. Sep 22 15:12:35 which os that is ? Sep 22 15:13:47 archlinux Sep 22 15:13:54 It doesn't have proper kernel modules. Sep 22 15:13:57 erm Sep 22 15:14:00 Features Sep 22 15:14:08 And I don't want to recompile my kernel. Sep 22 15:14:23 I am currently using scratchbox via dual boot. Sep 22 15:14:27 But that is no fun. Sep 22 15:15:22 why no kernel recompile? Sep 22 15:16:12 Because. Sep 22 15:16:32 I don't like custom kernels. Sep 22 15:23:41 hehe Sep 22 15:25:43 if its the same thing as with fedora .. Sep 22 15:26:11 there was just one parameter to set in kernel that does not require recompilation of kernel .. Sep 22 15:26:43 just echo something > /proc/something else .. dont remember what it was thou anymore, too long time since i setup my fedora box .. Sep 22 15:30:53 Whatever. Sep 22 15:30:53 <_Monkey> rumour has it whatever is fun for you. More power to ya Sep 22 15:30:58 I still don't like scratchbox. Sep 22 15:31:08 It is yuckyugleh. Sep 22 15:59:06 do people have any favourite UPnP servers to work with N800? Sep 22 16:04:09 Nero didn't work for me but Windows Media Player 11 is streaming quite well.. Sep 22 16:13:59 I use TVersity Sep 22 16:14:06 works alright with Media Streamer Sep 22 16:14:30 ysss, ok, thanks. Sep 22 16:14:37 * dorto going to try TVersity now Sep 22 16:14:48 The thing is, for N800 the video needs to be transcoded Sep 22 16:15:01 and i don't think you can seek transcoded streams. Sep 22 16:17:50 what if I share N800 compatible videos in TVersity? Sep 22 16:17:59 that should be fine right Sep 22 16:25:16 http://www.msdewey.com/ Sep 22 16:25:16 hot Sep 22 16:25:47 actually got hits for unique311 Sep 22 16:25:57 she disrespectful Sep 22 16:26:00 's Sep 22 16:26:28 that chick has an attitude..wonder if it works on the n800 Sep 22 16:28:16 * Deformati is bored. Sep 22 16:28:27 And I still cannot compile onboard gcc. Sep 22 16:28:29 check out ms dewey Sep 22 16:28:41 she entertains Sep 22 16:29:22 Nah. Sep 22 16:29:57 flash really sucks on the n800 Sep 22 16:30:37 Has anyone ever compiled onboard gcc? Sep 22 16:37:03 flash does suck on the n800 Sep 22 16:40:11 why flash sucks on n800 ? Sep 22 16:43:55 flash movies from the websites don't play smoothly on N800 but play good enough once downloaded/fully cached Sep 22 16:45:11 hum Sep 22 16:45:34 not exist a patch for that flash thing ? i think that i have see something about a "patch" for it somewhere Sep 22 16:45:59 not likely, it's not open source Sep 22 16:47:19 playing flash movies improved with the new ITOS update but is still not completely smooth they say Sep 22 16:57:02 hi all Sep 22 17:05:08 dorto: stil there? Sep 22 17:05:45 dorto: yeah, there's a setting in TVersity to auto-determine the client device and set wether the video needs to be transcoded or not. Sep 22 17:06:30 dorto: i don't know whether that actually works or not. All my media files are higher rates\resolution than the N800 can handle. Sep 22 17:08:07 when was the latest n800 binary released? Sep 22 17:08:14 and what new stuff does it bring? Sep 22 17:08:44 Hi Sep 22 17:09:31 Has anyone got "unionfs" to work on a recent fw release on the 770 or n800 ? Sep 22 17:09:42 do you have the kernel modules? Sep 22 17:29:02 can anybody tell me if /boot on n800 contains anything ? Sep 22 17:32:49 i have nothing on /boot Sep 22 17:32:56 ~ $ ls /boot/ Sep 22 17:32:57 ~ $ Sep 22 17:32:58 rumour has it, $ is a dollar sign Sep 22 17:33:02 ok Sep 22 17:33:24 im trying to put the initfs_flasher thing for 2º boot option (for boot from the mmc card) but i get a error Sep 22 17:33:48 cut: initfs/etc/initfs_version: No such file or directory Sep 22 17:33:56 !!! unkown initfs version, cannot install bootmenu Sep 22 17:34:10 Cannot find initfs.bootmenu.jffs2, something faild, nothing falshed Sep 22 17:38:49 http://tabletschool.blogspot.com/2007/09/nokia-n800-how-to-activate-secret-built.html Sep 22 17:38:54 Is this only in the n800 ? Sep 22 17:40:29 no idea ? ok... i think that's time to edit the scripting files... Sep 22 17:42:01 huh ? Sep 22 17:42:45 ekim|irc, sorry, im talking about my before question Sep 22 17:45:34 I just got a verizon usb evdo modem Sep 22 17:45:40 is there any way I can use that with my n770 Sep 22 17:46:32 also...where is the n770 microphone located ? Sep 22 17:46:34 I know it has one Sep 22 17:48:39 The EVDO modem is for your laptop? I know with Mac OS X it's simple to configure the built-in wi-fi on the laptop to act as an access point, but with Windows...meh, it's a pain. Sep 22 17:49:49 uh, oh... that looks bad Sep 22 17:50:03 my initfs seems EMPTY after a error trying to install it (disk full) Sep 22 17:50:18 i think that if I reboot the n800, it can't boot anymore Sep 22 17:52:45 TPC, can you help me ? i need to know what looks like my initfs, can you do that and paste me the result on http://paste.debian.net ? mkdir -p tmpinitfs ; mount -t jffs2 -o ro /dev/mtdblock3 tmpinitfs ; ls -R tmpinitfs ; umount tmpinitfs Sep 22 18:04:49 mmh... i think that i have a 'dd' of that partition.. Sep 22 18:07:14 morning all Sep 22 18:07:47 I'm trying to add the canola repo for the 770, but the provided url does not exist. Dows anyone knows a working one? Sep 22 18:16:39 Please, can anybody tell me if doing that, has a list files (and dirs) for result ? mkdir -p tmpinitfs ; mount -t jffs2 -o ro /dev/mtdblock3 tmpinitfs ; ls -R tmpinitfs ; umount tmpinitfs Sep 22 18:18:47 Thanatermesis, it should return a list of directories and files, what exactly are you trying to accomplish? Sep 22 18:19:17 saaib, Sep 22 18:19:18 <_Monkey> saaib, are you familiar with the debian way of things? (: Sep 22 18:19:24 uh, oh... that looks bad Sep 22 18:19:24 my initfs seems EMPTY after a error trying to install it (disk full) Sep 22 18:19:24 i think that if I reboot the n800, it can't boot anymore Sep 22 18:19:45 (unless the user you're running the shell can't create a directory or mount directly the device into the directory) Sep 22 18:19:58 saaib, you can be root ? Sep 22 18:20:17 Thanatermesis, there is a package for becomming root in the shell Sep 22 18:20:35 saaib, yes... i mean you, you need to be root for make this command Sep 22 18:20:44 Thanatermesis, that's correct Sep 22 18:20:57 saaib, try if works: ssh root@localhost Sep 22 18:21:21 password: rootme Sep 22 18:21:22 <_Monkey> i guess rootme is the default pw? Sep 22 18:21:26 yes Sep 22 18:21:39 i don't have ssh enabled, but i'll run the console Sep 22 18:21:54 yes but... you need to be root :/ Sep 22 18:22:01 _Monkey, can you have a root terminal ? Sep 22 18:22:02 <_Monkey> thanatermesis: i haven't a clue Sep 22 18:22:05 I understand, still I can run 'su' Sep 22 18:22:29 saaib, yes but i don't think that you can be root without ssh Sep 22 18:23:40 saaib, try: sudo gainroot Sep 22 18:26:13 saaib, help me with that and i help you with canola ;) Sep 22 18:27:34 _Monkey, do you have installed ssh or dropbear ? Sep 22 18:27:34 <_Monkey> no idea, thanatermesis Sep 22 18:27:57 Thanatermesis, I'm installing ssh... Sep 22 18:28:14 saaib, thx Sep 22 18:28:15 _Monkey: who is _monkey? Sep 22 18:28:16 <_Monkey> somebody said i was the best programmer in the whole freenode IRC right now Sep 22 18:28:25 _Monkey: forget i Sep 22 18:28:26 <_Monkey> disq, I didn't have anything matching i Sep 22 18:28:50 heh :P Sep 22 18:29:09 _Monkey, exec: apt-get install dropbear Sep 22 18:29:10 <_Monkey> Thanatermesis: huh? Sep 22 18:29:41 _Monkey, spank yourself Sep 22 18:29:42 <_Monkey> Thanatermesis: huh? Sep 22 18:30:45 packet analysis sucks Sep 22 18:31:35 nothing quite like telling a customer that the reason his network is "slow" is because almost all of his 100+ users are using eDonkey and Bittorrent as well as YahooIM and AIM. Sep 22 18:32:21 Thanatermesis, that's correct, i see the filesystem Sep 22 18:32:25 saaib, dropbear is sufficient for ssh: http://www.komputika.net/maemo/index.php?dir=./&file=dropbear_0.48-0.1_armel.deb Sep 22 18:32:26 oh Sep 22 18:32:37 saaib, hurm... then i have removed all that partition :/ Sep 22 18:32:47 saaib, what kind of files you see, for example ? Sep 22 18:32:55 Thanatermesis, what were you trying to do? Sep 22 18:33:10 Thanatermesis, I see the whole file structure for the filesystem Sep 22 18:33:28 saaib, i have tried to flash my initfs for have a 2º boot option, but due to a error of "disk full" i think that original initfs now is empty Sep 22 18:33:28 I would get ssh from the command line using apt-get rather than installing dropbear....why go with dropbear instead of ssh? Sep 22 18:33:58 aparently if i shutdown the n800, it don't boots anymore Sep 22 18:34:12 my GF is looking me with killing eyes Sep 22 18:34:17 Thanatermesis, oops! not good Sep 22 18:34:51 iball, you mean dropbear instead of openssh? Sep 22 18:34:54 that's why I keep a Para-Ordinance Warthog .45 ACP handgun on my desk. Sep 22 18:34:57 Thanatermesis: you have seen, e17 works on n800 ;) Sep 22 18:35:03 yes, why dropbear instead of openssh? Sep 22 18:35:28 saaib, http://paste.debian.net/37754 Sep 22 18:35:29 that's what i have Sep 22 18:35:31 Thanatermesis: (you are a french user of e17 if i remember me) Sep 22 18:35:54 sbz, yes, i have seen that ;) exist any repo with e17 ? i don't want to compile it... no time Sep 22 18:36:25 iball, idk, seems more small Sep 22 18:36:48 no for the moment, rasterman just test as a Proof on Concept, but he will enjoy for the future Sep 22 18:36:50 Oh yes...I guess not everyone is booting from an 8GB SDHC card. Sep 22 18:37:26 Thanatermesis: http://www.rasterman.com/files/e17-n800-1.jpg & http://www.rasterman.com/files/e17-n800-2.jpg & http://www.rasterman.com/files/e17-n800-3.jpg Sep 22 18:37:36 yes, i ahve see the shots :) Sep 22 18:37:47 iball, im on a 4GB sdhc Sep 22 18:37:53 really good news Sep 22 18:37:58 yes Sep 22 18:38:09 i can do tests too in the future... when i found a bit of time to play with :) Sep 22 18:38:42 same for me Sep 22 18:39:04 well, 4GB should be plenty of space. Last night ArnimS recompiled "the mana world" and for some reason he wasn't able to get it running but it ran fine on my N800....a graphical MMORPG and it runs FAST. Sep 22 18:39:05 you have a n800 or a 770 sbz ? Sep 22 18:40:01 iball, any screenshot of this game ? Sep 22 18:40:04 sbz, do you have a n800 ? Sep 22 18:40:14 well... let me try to dd the image of this partition to see if works... Sep 22 18:41:20 Thanatermesis: yes i have Sep 22 18:42:05 Thanatermesis, let me throw a screenshot of it running on my N800 up on imageshack....one problem though: when I try to force it to launch full-screen on the N800 it errors out, but it runs fine in windowed mode Sep 22 18:42:38 http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7628/tmwonn800ba5.png Sep 22 18:43:31 yeaaaaaaah it's look like RPG soleil on megadrive :D Sep 22 18:43:36 there's no sound yet but ArnimS is working on it. Hopefully he'll fix the full-screen mode as well. Sep 22 18:43:40 crap... the dd not has work, strange :/ Sep 22 18:43:58 i have just proc, sys, and tmp dirs, empty's Sep 22 18:44:45 sbz, it's an MMORPG...I can see all the other players on the net running around killing things. As far as I can tell it's the first port/recompile of one like that done for the IT...luckily ArnimS has a 770 and I have an 800 so we can debug them on both platforms at the same time Sep 22 18:44:53 iball: about your skins for maemo, you've created it or get on the web ? Sep 22 18:44:56 and it's FREE as in beer Sep 22 18:45:13 I just replaced the big three icons with others someone else resized for the IT Sep 22 18:45:22 search in ITT forums for the "hack" Sep 22 18:45:31 other than that it's the default N800 theme Sep 22 18:45:40 okay Sep 22 18:45:42 sbz, r17 works on n800?? aah! I want it for 770, thats my wm on my desktop and laptops Sep 22 18:46:54 s/r17/e17, yeah rasterman (the core developper of e17) try it on his n800 Sep 22 18:47:21 saaib, can you show me what exact files you have on it ? Sep 22 18:49:34 Thanatermesis, I didn't run an 'ls -R', instead I did find tmpinitfs -type f | wc -l and I got a lot of files Sep 22 18:50:04 aha Sep 22 18:50:24 the strange thing is that my dd image not has work.. that not has sense Sep 22 18:50:28 doing : ls tmpinitfs, shows the bin boot dev etc lib linuxrc mnt proc sbin sys etc Sep 22 18:50:33 myabe because i have n800 and you a 770 ? Sep 22 18:50:40 sbz, can you try me that thing ? Sep 22 18:50:51 saaib, aha, i don't have all those thing Sep 22 18:50:52 s Sep 22 18:50:54 yes what ? Sep 22 18:50:57 wait Sep 22 18:51:14 sbz, mkdir -p tmpinitfs ; mount -t jffs2 -o ro /dev/mtdblock3 tmpinitfs ; ls -R tmpinitfs ; umount tmpinitfs Sep 22 18:53:31 Thanatermesis, you might want to do a: find tmpinitfs -type f -print , instead of the ls command, so you can have better space usage Sep 22 18:54:24 and other partition than /dev/mtdblock3 just don't mount Sep 22 18:54:26 Thanatermesis: it's work good Sep 22 18:54:38 sbz, files ? Sep 22 18:54:47 Thanatermesis: you want the output ? Sep 22 18:55:01 sbz, yes, show me it on http://paste.debian.net Sep 22 18:55:16 saaib, nothing Sep 22 18:58:02 so, wait a minute Sep 22 18:58:06 ok Sep 22 19:02:26 sbz, forget the paste Sep 22 19:02:29 Thanatermesis: http://paste.debian.net/37755 Sep 22 19:02:33 oh Sep 22 19:02:53 exact.. i don¡'t have those things... removed! Sep 22 19:03:02 sbz, can you send me a copy of all those files ? wait.. Sep 22 19:03:35 you want an archive of my / ? Sep 22 19:03:43 dd if=/dev/mtdblock3 of=dd.img Sep 22 19:03:47 no, just the dd.img file Sep 22 19:03:56 and... a copy of that dir, a tar of it Sep 22 19:05:20 you want a prefer block size ? (-bsize) or not ? Sep 22 19:05:34 i think that just the "dd" is ok Sep 22 19:05:49 but is strange that my dd image that i have backuped some days ago... don't works :/ Sep 22 19:08:38 okay, i don't compress with gzip to avoid error on integrity, you can get it here : http://katanux.free.fr/tmpinitfs.tar Sep 22 19:11:21 thank you sbz Sep 22 19:13:00 Thanatermesis, so... do you have any idea how to setup the canola 770 repo? Sep 22 19:13:41 saaib, not exactly, but tell me what's the exact problem, i don't have tried canola yet Sep 22 19:13:58 i want first to boot the system from my SDHC 4GB card for made on it antying Sep 22 19:17:18 Thanatermesis, I have a 770, and want to install canola, the canola web site has a 770 repo url which does not exists anymore... Sep 22 19:17:30 What is the current method to install canola in a 770? Sep 22 19:18:33 saaib, try: Sep 22 19:18:43 deb http://openbossa.indt.org/canola/repository/770 mistral user Sep 22 19:18:53 deb http://repository.maemo.org/ mistral free non-free Sep 22 19:19:17 Thanatermesis, the first one doesnt work Sep 22 19:22:42 saaib, i have obtained those repos from maemo.org, and seems like its for the "mistral" branch, but i don't think that you aare using mistral Sep 22 19:23:05 Thanatermesis, i'm using mistral Sep 22 19:23:32 Thanatermesis: with n800, i ougth to use bora repository Sep 22 19:23:59 sbz, do you know by any change if the n800 binary works with 770? Sep 22 19:24:54 i don't know saaib i don't try Sep 22 19:43:05 Hi, has anybody experienced segfault when python app which uses glade, reparents its gtk menu to hildon window menu? It happens if I remove "New" or "Save" or "Save as" from "File" menu and try to expand it then... when they are present it doesn't happen Sep 22 19:55:36 $MYDIR/mkfs.jffs2 -r initfs -o $1 -e 128 -l -n Sep 22 19:55:55 looks like my n800 don't has mkfs.jffs2, on what package is this file ? anybody has mkfs.jffs2 command ? Sep 22 20:00:02 well, in a normal debian install its in mtd-tools Sep 22 20:00:54 Thanatermesis, give me a minute to find hte link to the tools Sep 22 20:01:10 thx iball Sep 22 20:02:17 http://fanoush.wz.cz/maemo/ Sep 22 20:02:31 It's fanoush's tools for initfs to boot from SDHC Sep 22 20:02:42 it's in that tgz file Sep 22 20:04:06 iball, you have do the flashing /dev/mtdblck3 partition thing ? Sep 22 20:05:06 oh.. is on the dir Sep 22 20:05:20 iball, i have removed the contents of /dev/mtdblck3, do you know how to recover it ? Sep 22 20:08:57 gstreamer? Sep 22 20:08:58 <_Monkey> somebody said gstreamer was a smoking pile of cow poo. Sep 22 20:09:02 ok Sep 22 20:09:40 |]~[| ssh root@192.168.64.34 Sep 22 20:09:40 Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer Sep 22 20:09:46 WTF ¿? Sep 22 20:12:05 the wifi dropped on ya Sep 22 20:12:08 reset the connection Sep 22 20:12:26 no idea on how to recover it Sep 22 20:12:55 Thanatermesis, what exactly are you trying to do? Sep 22 20:13:29 iball, i have lost the contents of my /dev/mtdblk3, i need to recover it now (or put the new one that give me to boot from MMC) Sep 22 20:14:40 no idea, head on over to Google to search for recovering a Linux partition or just rebuild it and reinstall apps/firmware if it's not critical Sep 22 20:15:22 hum Sep 22 20:21:33 hi Sep 22 20:21:34 <_Monkey> bonjour, pupnikaf1 Sep 22 20:22:08 ok, im TI-RED Sep 22 20:22:13 time to flash that thing Sep 22 20:24:19 hi pupnikaf1 Sep 22 20:24:23 8/nick pupnik Sep 22 20:24:27 heh Sep 22 20:24:29 heh Sep 22 20:24:40 * erstazi always does that Sep 22 20:25:09 hello geaaru_ Sep 22 20:27:59 pupnik: have you ever installed gstreamer on OS2006? Sep 22 20:28:45 http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howto_flashlatestnokiaimagewithlinux/ Sep 22 20:28:50 i supose that this is what i need Sep 22 20:29:59 i supose that this flash the entire internal disk correct ? not just the /dev/mtdblk4 Sep 22 20:30:01 iball, ? Sep 22 20:31:08 WHat I usually do is flash the the entire device with the latest firmware and then immediately go about setting it up for external boot, that way my internal flash boot is always clean. Sep 22 20:31:16 ArnimS, you here? Sep 22 20:31:31 pupnik, you get the emails I sent you? Sep 22 20:33:49 Product ID not valid. Please re-enter the 12-digit code. Sep 22 20:33:51 WTF ? Sep 22 20:34:09 iball, where you get the lastest firmware ? from http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_770.php ? Sep 22 20:34:24 that's the place Sep 22 20:34:36 iball: yes Sep 22 20:34:57 oh wait, that's for 770 Sep 22 20:35:03 fix the full-screen and sound problems with mana world yet? Sep 22 20:35:26 just saw your 800x600 error...! Sep 22 20:35:36 here: http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N800.php Sep 22 20:35:42 thx Sep 22 20:35:45 that's where you get the latest firmware Sep 22 20:35:51 pupnik, so what's causing that? Sep 22 20:36:15 checking right now Sep 22 20:37:07 86 mb of firmware... looks good Sep 22 20:37:53 iball, i hope that flash all the partitions of the disk of the device... if not, when i reboot it can't boot anymore because the /dev/mtdblk3 is EMPTY!, that's the partition of the BOOT (initfs) Sep 22 20:38:50 Plug in USB calbe and press power and home key at the same time while powering up....then use the Linux flasher tool or the Windows flasher tool to reflash the device Sep 22 20:38:54 that should fix it Sep 22 20:38:59 heh i screwed up all my fonts on 770 Sep 22 20:39:27 Meh, I found that the built-in default fonts were good enough...what did you do? Bad TTF? Sep 22 20:39:32 what is the home button ? the one in the bottom of the front part ? Sep 22 20:39:57 i don't know - too many changes to track Sep 22 20:40:28 i have a new deb that fixes the 800x600 problem but keep the old deb around, as the new deb might be causing the connection problem Sep 22 20:42:39 throw me the new deb and I'll try it out right quick Sep 22 20:42:54 i've still got all the original debs saved in a separate folder Sep 22 20:43:22 you do network admin for a job? or customer support? Sep 22 20:43:56 network engineer....folks call me in when it all goes to hell or they need a major upgrade or installation done Sep 22 20:43:59 correct... it don't boots anymore :/ Sep 22 20:44:04 * Thanatermesis trying to flash now... Sep 22 20:44:17 the home button is the one with the house on it Sep 22 20:44:40 ok Sep 22 20:47:14 iball: http://pupnik.de/ Sep 22 20:47:27 iball: http://pupnik.de/tmw_0.0.23-3_armel.deb Sep 22 20:47:34 ok, I see you didn't increment the number on the deb file.... Sep 22 20:47:44 oh yes you did...nevermind..grabbing it now Sep 22 20:48:24 i cheated and just renamed the deb Sep 22 20:48:56 well... booted :) Sep 22 20:49:42 pupnik, it runs in windowed mode fine...testing full screen now Sep 22 20:56:57 pupnik, it works just FINE in full-screen mode. Wow, you ported over the first graphical MMORPG to the internet tablet. Sep 22 20:57:34 there's a little lag once in a while, but it's still playable. The lag might be only on my end though since I am running Mauku with three web windows open and my Mac is downloading a tv show via bittorrent Sep 22 20:57:57 good to hear Sep 22 20:57:59 * flip^ looks in as a relative newbie Sep 22 20:58:01 btw this firmware looks better :) Sep 22 20:58:37 now, what about getting sounds to work? Sep 22 20:58:41 pupnik: now much of your software will work on a n800? Sep 22 20:58:42 :) Sep 22 20:58:56 I'm never satisfied...get sound working! Sep 22 20:59:02 iball: which game are you talking about? Sep 22 20:59:46 a new one ArnimS/pupnik just ported over...."The Mana World"...more info on the game itself: http://themanaworld.org/ Sep 22 21:00:17 pupnik, you might want to throw an in-game screenshot up there Sep 22 21:00:24 in addition to the login screen Sep 22 21:01:09 pupnik, also change the binary on the tmw page you setup from the -2 version to the working full-window -3 version Sep 22 21:04:31 pupnik, see if you can work an on-screen keyboard in there as well Sep 22 21:05:28 doesnt seem to work on n800 Sep 22 21:07:19 * flip^ needs to find more cool stuff for his n800 Sep 22 21:07:29 (where cool can also mean geeky) Sep 22 21:09:12 iball: i can't get to in-game Sep 22 21:09:35 flip^: yes almost everything i build works fine on N800 - but you need to install them from the command line Sep 22 21:10:02 as things mature, to stable, i'll get native N800 builds finished, with one-click install etc. Sep 22 21:10:10 but that is probably early 2008 Sep 22 21:10:11 smw seemed to install ok, though i'm yet to launch it Sep 22 21:10:29 i presume it'll need launching from the command line) Sep 22 21:10:43 load-applet-run? Sep 22 21:10:44 <_Monkey> load-applet-run is, like, John Costigan's awesome toolbar applet to monitor cpu and launch programs: http://gnuite.com:8080/nokia770/ Sep 22 21:10:50 osso-statusbar-cpu? Sep 22 21:10:51 <_Monkey> somebody said osso-statusbar-cpu was at http://www.maemo-hackers.org/wiki/OssoStatusbarCpu Sep 22 21:11:03 those will let you run 'command line' games from a shortcut Sep 22 21:11:31 i apologise for not dealing with the maemoization - i'm just doing this for fun you know Sep 22 21:11:32 * flip^ nods... i have one of them installed, but have yet to actually use its commands thing.. it's just useful to see when i've broken something and got something hogging cpu atm Sep 22 21:11:41 heh Sep 22 21:12:10 once i work out scratchbox, i'll have a bit of a poke around for fun too, but i've not worked out how to add users to it yet to actually run it (only installed it on my box half an hour ago) Sep 22 21:12:18 where's ssvb when ya need him... he got allegro libs built and i can't do it Sep 22 21:14:26 so you're working on the no-sound issue in TMW now, pupnik? Sep 22 21:14:38 no Sep 22 21:15:25 i haven't learned enough about sound backends yet Sep 22 21:15:26 For pupnik's "command line" programs I just build a custom PROGRAMNAME.desktop file to launch it in /usr/share/applications/hildon Sep 22 21:15:59 what do you need the allegro libs for? Sep 22 21:16:22 waitaminute, all you need is a desktop file? Sep 22 21:16:39 Hi! Sep 22 21:16:49 kioil Sep 22 21:16:53 sry. Sep 22 21:16:58 yeah, pupnik....duh Sep 22 21:17:14 You guys seem to be professional. Sep 22 21:17:26 here's mine for Man World Sep 22 21:17:28 [Desktop Entry] Sep 22 21:17:28 Encoding=UTF-8 Sep 22 21:17:28 Name=The Mana World Sep 22 21:17:28 GenericName=The Mana World Sep 22 21:17:28 Comment=The Mana World Sep 22 21:17:29 Exec=/usr/games/tmw Sep 22 21:17:30 Type=Application Sep 22 21:17:31 pupnik: you know some of your software links are dead, yeah? Sep 22 21:17:45 works like a charm Sep 22 21:17:49 I'm wondering that how\'s the work situation look like in the Maemo field Sep 22 21:18:07 hmm, i tried for a couple games and it didn't work here, thanks again iball Sep 22 21:18:09 so I take it you'll be adding desktop files to your command-line-only deb pacakges now? :) Sep 22 21:18:14 Sorry, auto escape on :D Sep 22 21:19:37 iball there's more to it but yes. the games also need to appear in the active programs list on the left, and you need to be able to taskswitch - and there's a 'framework' for that called maemo-games (see marbles game) Sep 22 21:19:41 pupnik, so far I've built custom ones for The Mana World, Pioneers, lgeneral, and Chaos Strikes Back. Sep 22 21:19:43 that's how they should all be running Sep 22 21:19:54 what is Pioneers? Sep 22 21:20:20 greetings nisse- Sep 22 21:20:55 of course all the people who KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING are involved in 'serious' projects... Sep 22 21:21:02 something I recompiled to work on the N800...http://pio.sourceforge.net/ Sep 22 21:21:19 see if you can recompile and "make nicer" Pioneers for the IT Sep 22 21:21:28 mine was just a raw recompile and run from the binary Sep 22 21:21:32 cool Sep 22 21:22:26 eyah something i want to try needs allegro lib Sep 22 21:22:49 what needs allegro libs? Sep 22 21:22:58 y Sep 22 21:23:37 nevermind...you could always try to remake dicewars for the IT Sep 22 21:24:05 i know someone "ported" it to the Nintendo DS and it's pretty good Sep 22 21:24:08 addictive as hell Sep 22 21:24:40 http://dicewars.drunkencoders.com/ Sep 22 21:26:08 http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/dice/dice.html does this work in opera browser? Sep 22 21:26:28 unique311 has a flash games collection btw Sep 22 21:26:34 pupnik: Is it easy to get a job? Sep 22 21:26:59 A 'trainee' jov Sep 22 21:27:03 s/jov/job/g Sep 22 21:27:04 nisse- meant: A 'trainee' job Sep 22 21:27:12 Nice! Sep 22 21:27:13 yes, stocking supermarket shelves, tending a gas station Sep 22 21:27:30 punpik Yeah ;D I'm a coder allready. Sep 22 21:27:37 Focused on Linux... Sep 22 21:27:54 i have a lot of things for you to do, nisse- Sep 22 21:28:04 :) Sep 22 21:28:36 pupnik: Sarcastic? Sep 22 21:28:43 no Sep 22 21:28:46 pupnik: yes, it does seem to work in opera Sep 22 21:28:54 pupnik: Go on... Tell me. Sep 22 21:28:54 on n800 anyway Sep 22 21:29:44 nisse-: check out http://pupnik.de/software.html and let me know if any of those interest you Sep 22 21:32:02 what pisses me off is there are these billionaire charity funds and none of them ever sponsor open-source projects Sep 22 21:32:15 pupnik: The acmonitor looks good for a starters. Sep 22 21:32:37 pupnik: I'm fluent in Ruby, PHP and Java(SE). Sep 22 21:33:04 acmonitor is 'finished'. derf wrote it Sep 22 21:33:08 And I know pretty much about C++; Sep 22 21:33:16 i just ripped out some code for the 770 Sep 22 21:33:22 Oh.. Sep 22 21:33:32 Okay, I'll check out something else. Sep 22 21:33:38 how about finishing the penguin command conversion from 800x600 to 800x480 Sep 22 21:34:05 it's maybe 80% done - jsut a few things not lining up Sep 22 21:34:51 Ah, tell me. Sep 22 21:35:19 ... More. Sep 22 21:36:15 acmonitor for N800 link is broken...anyway to host that locally, pupnik? Sep 22 21:38:07 pupnik: ... Sep 22 21:38:29 http://pupnik.de/penguin-command_maemo_source.tgz Sep 22 21:38:35 pupnik, I'm surprised you didn't also port over Castle Combat http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~karlb/castle-combat/ Sep 22 21:39:19 pupnik: 404 Sep 22 21:39:38 sorry - 1 minute Sep 22 21:40:17 pupnik: Got it. Sep 22 21:40:43 planetmath is very slow Sep 22 21:40:57 pupnik: Do you have something with c++? Sep 22 21:42:49 yes, i don't know though Sep 22 21:43:14 pupnik: ?? Sep 22 21:43:16 iball: that combat game uses pygame, and i don't do python Sep 22 21:43:43 ah, no python...got it Sep 22 21:43:46 wb red-zack Sep 22 21:43:59 plenty of folks here who like python Sep 22 21:45:08 pupnik: Did you miss that last one? Sep 22 21:45:33 And yes.. Also no Python. Sep 22 21:45:45 Python feels like walking backwards after Ruby. Sep 22 21:46:08 Has anyone put Ruby on the IT? Sep 22 21:46:16 straind: Yep. Sep 22 21:46:18 nisse-: thanks for the acmonitor link Sep 22 21:46:23 ruby? Sep 22 21:46:28 yes Sep 22 21:46:44 Link? Sep 22 21:46:46 pupnik: have you got a version of xkbd that'll go on a n800? Sep 22 21:46:52 _Monkey: ruby is http://maemo.rubyx.co.uk/projects/ruby-maemo Sep 22 21:46:53 <_Monkey> OK, pupnik. Sep 22 21:47:14 flip^: yes, you can install xkbd on n800 Sep 22 21:47:35 presumably manually, as the app installer just says its not compatible Sep 22 21:47:41 yeah Sep 22 21:47:44 i don't have an n800 Sep 22 21:48:02 i've been spoiled by everything being easy with apt over the years methinks :) Sep 22 21:48:35 dpkg -i Sep 22 21:48:42 will ignore the version incompat Sep 22 21:49:09 cool, thanks Sep 22 21:49:10 pupnik: Are you working on any project with C++; Sep 22 21:49:11 ? Sep 22 21:49:35 i bought my n800 to get myself forced under the hood of this sort of thing again... hopefully will be doing some development or porting of my own before too long Sep 22 21:54:53 it's fun flip^ Sep 22 22:01:15 mv: cannot stat `/home/minra/.deps/allegro/allegro4.1-4.1.15/debian/liballegro-dev/usr/lib/allegro/4.1': No such file or directory Sep 22 22:01:28 gammit Sep 22 22:11:39 speaking of ruby, anyone interested on simple video player (uses mplayer) that can do transcoding and supports seeking Sep 22 22:14:12 that makes no sense Sep 22 22:14:39 k Sep 22 22:14:58 the player itself doesn't transcode of course Sep 22 22:15:04 hmm Sep 22 22:15:15 so it lets you transcode on the device before playing? Sep 22 22:15:22 no Sep 22 22:15:39 you install a small server software on your desktop/server Sep 22 22:16:03 it uses vlc for transcoding Sep 22 22:16:22 ahh that could be useful. like the gmyth frontend without the heavy myth server backend Sep 22 22:16:29 indeed Sep 22 22:17:03 it works like the media would be on the device Sep 22 22:17:14 that sounds great I was doing something like that with ssh but it was a pain Sep 22 22:17:27 yeah i want something like that - tons of vids on the pc, but no easy way to view them quickly on the tablet Sep 22 22:17:37 server works with windows/linux/freebsd/os x Sep 22 22:17:58 it's a bit rough around the edges, but it works Sep 22 22:19:36 http://ugz.ath.cx:1414/images/knots/shot0.jpg Sep 22 22:19:40 http://ugz.ath.cx:1414/images/knots/shot1.jpg Sep 22 22:19:43 http://ugz.ath.cx:1414/images/knots/shot2.jpg Sep 22 22:19:56 it's not fancy Sep 22 22:24:08 but works on both models and is quite easy to setup Sep 22 22:25:14 looks cool Sep 22 22:27:02 if anyone is interested, just pm me Sep 22 22:27:31 Looks like a good start. Sep 22 22:27:54 Doesn't look finished to me though. Sep 22 22:28:56 it isn't Sep 22 22:29:03 but it's in usable state Sep 22 22:30:42 and not sure what features it would still need Sep 22 22:32:12 Oh wait. Sep 22 22:32:16 What are we talking about here? Sep 22 22:32:34 I thought we were talking about the theme. Sep 22 22:32:38 haha Sep 22 22:32:43 nm my comments then Sep 22 22:37:53 Google: Results 1 - 50 of about 371,000 for "don't tase me bro". Sep 22 22:39:33 Anyone running gnucalc? Sep 22 22:40:31 err.. gnumeric ;) Sep 22 22:51:00 yeah, a little Sep 22 22:52:54 on a 770? Sep 22 22:53:15 nah, n800 Sep 22 22:53:31 Ah. Ok. Sep 22 23:52:57 so how do i modify the firmware.. so that i can make the error message "Internet connection failed" just a bit more fucking non-specific and uselesS? Sep 23 00:26:17 hi, I have just read a log where anyone told about building emacs on maemo Sep 23 00:26:55 have does anyone done this? Sep 23 01:08:26 straind, do you know anyone running gnucash in 770 or 800? Sep 23 01:20:06 saaib: No. I'm not familiar with gnucash either. :) Sep 23 01:23:27 * Deformati continues to not know how to build gcc Sep 23 01:26:55 Deformati: on your n770/800 install this apt packages with command line : # apt-get install gcc-3.4-base libgcc1 dpkg-dev Sep 23 01:27:08 I do not need to install it/ Sep 23 01:27:11 I need to buiild it. Sep 23 01:28:39 get the source upstream form the web site and used to ./configure && make && make install, if you want to build it Sep 23 01:29:42 i ough to build in your scratchbox, create binary package and install on your nokia Sep 23 01:30:14 because the compilation on nokia can do really really long Sep 23 01:56:41 sbz: I understand that, but I would still like to get it working. Sep 23 01:56:53 sbz: What do you mean source upstream form? Sep 23 01:59:37 the tarball from the gcc website Sep 23 02:10:55 Well yeah, I tried that. Sep 23 02:11:00 And it failed to build. Sep 23 02:16:00 why recompile it when you can have a binary package which works good ? do you are a gentoo user ? Sep 23 02:17:16 No. Sep 23 02:17:36 Lets see if I can explain this well. Sep 23 02:17:44 I need to get GDC working. Sep 23 02:17:54 GDC is GCC with D language support. Sep 23 02:18:04 But in order to build GDC I need to be able to build GCC. Sep 23 02:18:07 Make sense? Sep 23 02:18:09 man, i just watched a movie that almost made me want to cry...... Sep 23 02:18:23 Hi unique311 Sep 23 02:18:27 I'm depressed now Sep 23 02:18:32 whats up Deformati Sep 23 02:18:54 okay Deformati Sep 23 02:18:54 <_Monkey> well, Deformati is not a fan of games. or planning on learning ARM asm Sep 23 02:18:57 unique311, wha't the movie? Sep 23 02:19:09 ghost of cite soliel. Sep 23 02:19:33 unique311: Did a few more quick faces. Sep 23 02:19:38 And now I am drawing fabric. Sep 23 02:19:46 cool Sep 23 02:19:56 fabric as in t's Sep 23 02:20:27 Yeah, just a shirt thrown in some random layout. Sep 23 02:20:35 i need to watch something to get me out of this mood i'm in. Sep 23 02:20:43 Draw. Sep 23 02:20:44 :D Sep 23 02:20:51 i have designs for t's right now.. Sep 23 02:21:06 working on a collection..that i can hopefully shop around... Sep 23 02:21:10 Or, if you want to get really pissed off, try to get gdc working. Sep 23 02:21:13 Deformati: do you have binutils 2.13 ? (see there http://gcc.gnu.org/install/specific.html#arm-x-elf) Sep 23 02:21:23 or more recent Sep 23 02:23:00 Uh. Sep 23 02:23:10 That doesn't help me compile gdc. :D Sep 23 02:23:51 unique311: BTW, I was talking about folds, not designs Sep 23 02:24:06 folds? Sep 23 02:24:58 Like, throw some clothing at the wall, all the shadows and organic designs created by that. Sep 23 02:25:35 never heard of it.. Sep 23 02:25:51 wikipedia on it? Sep 23 02:26:20 Uh... Sep 23 02:26:58 http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Jan-2005/53202-Da-Vinci-small.jpg Sep 23 02:27:09 i didn't do that one. Sep 23 02:27:11 xD Sep 23 02:27:14 ok Sep 23 02:27:42 i like that. Sep 23 02:28:08 look like there's a person underneath it. Sep 23 02:28:18 Yeah, it was one of da vinci's favorite hobbies. Sep 23 02:28:34 how long did it take you? Sep 23 02:28:38 He would take a fabric, and draw it several times with the light in different positions. Sep 23 02:28:41 I did not draw that. Sep 23 02:28:43 As I said. Sep 23 02:29:45 i need to start drawing more. Sep 23 02:29:59 everytime i feel like it is not cutting it anymore. Sep 23 02:31:53 but resident evil is on my mind right now. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Sep 23 02:59:56 2007