**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 04 02:59:56 2007 Oct 04 03:14:15 ok, i just learned this, and need to share.. Oct 04 03:14:24 How to get drunk fast. Oct 04 03:14:44 really fast Oct 04 03:15:54 beer or wine enema. btw, off topic. Oct 04 03:16:03 iv ethanol? Oct 04 03:16:14 that will work also Oct 04 03:16:35 how did you learn such a thing? Oct 04 03:16:49 manswers.... Oct 04 03:16:56 a show on spiketv Oct 04 03:17:01 i know the show Oct 04 03:17:04 lol Oct 04 03:17:21 shame. a better answer and i could have put this on bash Oct 04 03:17:29 :-> Oct 04 03:18:20 like a story involving a shetland pony, a bearded woman, a golf ball, and a garden hose. Oct 04 03:19:41 http://www.funnydump.com/files/bNf1FjxC.jpg a supported. Oct 04 03:21:17 dumps are not funny Oct 04 03:21:19 they're smelly Oct 04 03:22:23 Tb0n3: no a beer enema is not suppose to be funny....its suppose to get you really fucked up. Oct 04 03:22:41 drinking wine gets me fecked up. Oct 04 03:22:52 wine is dangerous stuff Oct 04 03:22:59 wine is good Oct 04 03:22:59 funny how you mention this now and it was on 4chan not too long ago Oct 04 03:23:28 sorry for not being hip to 4chan Oct 04 03:23:41 i just saw it on spiketv on manswers... Oct 04 03:23:42 but yeah, windows apps under linux could be dangerous Oct 04 03:24:13 wine is not dangerous stuff, it's sophisticated stuff, you hoodlums just keep using it like it were hard liquor Oct 04 03:24:21 :P Oct 04 03:24:37 lolboxofwine Oct 04 03:24:46 ugh Oct 04 03:24:52 wineboxes. Oct 04 03:25:09 wow, hoodlums... Oct 04 03:25:15 thanks for the branding. Oct 04 03:25:20 made my night. Oct 04 03:25:32 btw Oct 04 03:25:33 http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/09/30/india.nazi.bedspread.ap/ Oct 04 03:26:03 the funnydump pic isnt so shocking Oct 04 03:26:13 wow. Oct 04 03:26:51 it isn't Oct 04 03:27:24 well, if that were in the united states where there's freedom of speech Oct 04 03:27:34 oh wait, nevermind, they'd still get sued by jews Oct 04 03:27:41 omg, I'm offended by wtf u r doin Oct 04 03:27:49 stop it or I sue Oct 04 03:27:58 see, a confederate flag flying in the north of germany, that was a bit shocking Oct 04 03:28:04 lol Oct 04 03:28:22 freedom of speech is there.... Oct 04 03:28:29 see a nazi flag in germany and it'll be gone in a second Oct 04 03:28:43 also new flag says "No halocaustlol" Oct 04 03:28:43 just gotta know how to go about it, i guess. Oct 04 03:29:02 freedom of speech, but....Should be what is said. Oct 04 03:29:40 you should be able to go into court and say "freedom of speech lol" and actually pronounce the lol so they know it's retarded to prosecute for percieved "offences" Oct 04 03:29:52 there's many freedoms Oct 04 03:30:11 if the company wants business they can change their stuff, but if they want they should be able to make what they want Oct 04 03:30:26 well they should... Oct 04 03:30:39 i have no idea what the laws in india are Oct 04 03:30:43 meh Oct 04 03:30:48 and i suspect neither do you. Oct 04 03:30:50 but considering the jews rule the world right now....i would be very careful about Oct 04 03:31:00 fuck religion Oct 04 03:31:03 eherm Oct 04 03:31:03 selling stuff that would offend them.. Oct 04 03:31:25 true. Oct 04 03:31:28 same here, i think the world is better of without religion.. Oct 04 03:31:30 well, it's more corporations, but corps don't run the courts Oct 04 03:31:44 just the lawyers Oct 04 03:31:49 you sure Oct 04 03:32:17 all religion does is cause enmity towards others and high standards that just cause people to hide what they're doing Oct 04 03:32:31 it's not a solution, it's a rug to cover the dirt Oct 04 03:32:54 "There are about 5,500 Jews living in India, a predominantly Hindu nation of 1.1 billion people." Oct 04 03:32:55 HA Oct 04 03:33:21 what about the symbol on buddah's hand though, I'm sure somebody's offended by that Oct 04 03:34:18 what's this symbol? Oct 04 03:35:25 I believe it's a swastica Oct 04 03:35:28 well, speaking as a jew who used to work for a non profit group representing holocaust survivors.... no, no one cares about the swastikas on buddas. Oct 04 03:35:29 but not called that Oct 04 03:35:30 google doesn't seem to want to help me with that one.. Oct 04 03:36:09 I used to wear a shirt from tshirt hell "I like my women like I like my coffee" "ground up and in the freezer" so I don't care about offending people Oct 04 03:36:16 its on his chest.. Oct 04 03:36:19 also Oct 04 03:36:25 also, "rape is no laughing matter" "unless you're raping a clown" Oct 04 03:36:28 http://www.mega.nu/ampp/eden/buddha01.jpg Oct 04 03:36:32 and it's in his palms Oct 04 03:36:32 also, there is a difference between a hackenkreuz and a swastika, though not in common speech. Oct 04 03:37:14 so, clockwise/counterclockwise, square/diamond? Oct 04 03:37:37 crap, I should stop now, I'm already known several other places for my monologues and rants Oct 04 03:37:41 so the hackenkreuz was being sported by the kid in the picture.... Oct 04 03:37:58 pretty much. but its also fairly contextual. Oct 04 03:38:21 no, the kid is wearing a swastica Oct 04 03:38:47 the bedspread is nazi all the way...nothing to do with buddha there right.. Oct 04 03:38:55 i think the issue here was the "NAZI" name for the line. Oct 04 03:39:26 it's a symbol, as the article says they don't know wtf hitler was so well known for, just another guy in history, people make fun of wars Oct 04 03:39:28 like ours right now Oct 04 03:39:36 i suspect a line of bedsheets with swastikas only wouldnt have been noticed Oct 04 03:40:05 all i can say - its a good thing they werent making lampshades. Oct 04 03:40:06 hey Tb0n3 our war has a meaning.. Oct 04 03:40:11 oil. Oct 04 03:40:20 then why are gas prices rising Oct 04 03:40:26 if it were for oil then it wouldn't make sense Oct 04 03:40:26 not sure..lol Oct 04 03:40:37 we're there because our president had an agenda Oct 04 03:40:44 avenge daddy Oct 04 03:40:45 maybe it would be 3 times as high, if the war didn't happen.. Oct 04 03:41:20 All wars have reasons....may not be good ones at times... Oct 04 03:41:24 what I don't understand is, wtf did we go after saddam when he wasn't the one who did anything to us recently Oct 04 03:41:26 but reasons are there.. Oct 04 03:41:30 that coulda been put on the backburner Oct 04 03:41:38 i know it sucks to think this way... Oct 04 03:41:45 send 1million troops to afganistan and maybe shit wouldn't have gotten away Oct 04 03:42:10 who's a bin laden? Oct 04 03:42:19 sounds familiar Oct 04 03:42:28 he might be dead.. Oct 04 03:42:32 wasn't that the guy who helped saddam bomb the us? Oct 04 03:42:36 :P Oct 04 03:44:58 grrr why did i stay home.... sigh... cute women Oct 04 03:45:22 * Luria debates going out now Oct 04 03:45:48 predictions for the next leader that gets it from america? bets? Oct 04 03:46:02 wed. night.... Oct 04 03:46:12 how about bush Oct 04 03:46:18 I want bush to get it from america Oct 04 03:46:24 not going to happen.. Oct 04 03:46:41 then again, if he got it, we'd be stuck with the devil himself Oct 04 03:46:58 umm, no one? Oct 04 03:46:58 <_Monkey> no one is on skype now Oct 04 03:47:06 XD Oct 04 03:47:09 _monkey, die? Oct 04 03:47:10 <_Monkey> no idea, luria Oct 04 03:47:47 http://www.infomercialscams.com/scams/video_professor Oct 04 03:47:48 :D Oct 04 03:47:57 Iran presidente, is really acting invincible right about now.... Oct 04 03:48:56 na und?` Oct 04 03:48:58 when have we gone after the most deserving enemy? Oct 04 03:49:19 touche Oct 04 03:49:35 we'll probably go after tony blair or something Oct 04 03:49:50 cause he dun totally screwed us over by giving up Oct 04 03:50:05 :P Oct 04 03:50:28 screw going out. pizza. Oct 04 03:50:55 yum Oct 04 03:51:07 god bless seamlessweb.com Oct 04 03:51:17 and delivery.com too Oct 04 03:51:19 with flasher-2.0 do I have to have only 1 usb device plugged in for it to recognize it? Oct 04 03:51:25 and freshdirect Oct 04 03:51:30 cause it didn't seem to work on ubuntu 6.06 Oct 04 03:56:30 who knows somebody who still owns windows ME Oct 04 03:57:12 i own it... i even had it installed on a computer for about an hour and a half Oct 04 03:57:27 seven years ago Oct 04 03:57:36 lol Oct 04 04:02:22 oooh alds yankees tomorrow Oct 04 04:03:50 boston/nyy alcs would rock Oct 04 04:06:30 bye Oct 04 04:24:58 gyro pizza or mexican. thse are the choices that try men's souls. Oct 04 04:27:44 http://pupnik.de/WalkingSteps.wav <<< UltimaIV walking steps done correctly - you can hear how the pitch changes slightly/randomly with each step. That's how it's done right. Oct 04 04:31:20 hmmm nothing's happening with the hildon ham group. shame. Oct 04 04:33:11 heh wb Luria Oct 04 04:33:24 hey thanks Oct 04 04:33:26 graah Audacity adds 4.6 seconds to the end of every sample Oct 04 04:33:43 amateurs! Oct 04 04:35:04 hmmm... 44 people for the slashdot party in nyc Oct 04 04:35:04 not bad Oct 04 04:35:54 I should open a mexican fast food joint someday Oct 04 04:37:01 if you do, sign up with seamlessweb and delivery.com Oct 04 04:37:26 i love ordering food online Oct 04 04:49:52 there appear hm 39 mexican restaurants in hessen (pop 6.2 million) Oct 04 05:09:34 i have a hardrive that i think is stuck in sleep mode.. Oct 04 05:09:41 can it be waken up. Oct 04 05:10:10 come to find out, everything in my thinkpad is ok..the hardrive is just sleep and will not wake up... Oct 04 05:10:19 or broken... Oct 04 05:14:42 ummm Oct 04 05:14:46 harddrives don't sleep Oct 04 05:15:00 it's the computer's problem, just hard reboot Oct 04 05:15:01 they can Oct 04 05:15:09 sounds like a bad horror movie name Oct 04 05:15:16 lol Oct 04 05:15:22 man hdparm Oct 04 05:15:26 look out for the harddrive that never sleeps Oct 04 05:15:37 "Harddrives don't sleep" in theater near you! Oct 04 05:15:59 hdparm -S Set the standby (spindown) timeout for the drive Oct 04 05:16:07 awww, and here I thought I could eat my hd with parmesian Oct 04 05:23:19 repositories? Oct 04 05:23:20 <_Monkey> hmmm... repositories is http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ApplicationRepositories and a searchable index at http://www.gronmayer.com/n800/repos/index.php Oct 04 05:23:54 0 repos for wxwidgets Oct 04 05:24:17 would be nice to have libwxgtk2.6-0 Oct 04 05:27:05 * czr wraps libwxgtk2.6-0 into gift wrapping paper and gives it to pupnik Oct 04 05:28:54 is it even possible/practical to get wxwidgets on the tablet? Oct 04 05:29:32 possible yes, practical not very maybe. not sure about the build deps on it, but if they're complex then you might want to rethink Oct 04 05:29:46 hardrive is definitely screwed... Oct 04 05:30:21 http://n770.herraiz.org/archives/18 I am working in the port of wxWidgets and wxPython to the Maemo platform Oct 04 05:30:47 pupnik, any reason why wx instead of gtk? (just curious) Oct 04 05:31:11 audacity wants wx Oct 04 05:31:32 audacity also wants a lot of resources if you want to use it for anything practical Oct 04 05:31:41 and the GUI isn't very useable with small reso either Oct 04 05:31:46 at least imho Oct 04 05:32:34 yah Oct 04 05:32:44 but hmm. I don't see why you couldn't port wx over to maemo Oct 04 05:33:10 I have a lot of crazy projects as well, so I'm in no position to say that yours sucks :-) Oct 04 05:33:21 actually running one in a window now at 640x480 Oct 04 05:33:32 it's not serious Oct 04 05:33:36 how many tracks can you fit there? Oct 04 05:33:37 * czr ndos Oct 04 05:33:43 noddds. Oct 04 05:34:37 umm checking Oct 04 05:35:04 about 6 would be usable Oct 04 05:35:38 I normally use about two tracks at a time (visible) with vert reso of ~900 Oct 04 05:36:04 but I guess I'm picky then :-) (I like to see the waveforms properly) Oct 04 05:36:05 sorry i wrong Oct 04 05:36:13 about 3 tracks Oct 04 05:36:24 * pupnik naps Oct 04 05:36:27 you planning to do rework on the GUI? Oct 04 05:36:33 for maemo Oct 04 05:36:40 no i am not gonna touch it Oct 04 05:36:44 ok Oct 04 05:36:55 maybe then it would be suitable for one/two tracks Oct 04 05:37:07 can't imagine using it for real work though, not with the stylus at least Oct 04 05:37:14 but I'm limited! Oct 04 05:37:24 there are no rightclicks in audacity Oct 04 05:37:41 how should my 770 be when I connect to the usb for flasher Oct 04 05:37:46 oh, I'm not worried about those (don't use them), I'm more worried about the resolution of the touch pad Oct 04 05:38:03 Tb0n3: off Oct 04 05:38:04 Tb0n3, read the instructions? Oct 04 05:38:21 point to instructions? Oct 04 05:38:29 flasher? Oct 04 05:38:29 <_Monkey> i heard flasher was available from http://tablets-dev.nokia.com Oct 04 05:38:39 and that's where I got it from Oct 04 05:38:43 but there's no instructions to it Oct 04 05:39:00 weird Oct 04 05:39:24 there used to be (long time ago, in a galaxy far away) Oct 04 05:39:34 I'll try it on feisty fawn, if I can get it started Oct 04 05:39:43 some reason my laptop doesn't like it much Oct 04 05:39:44 Tb0n3, this? : http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HOWTO_FlashLatestNokiaImageWithLinux Oct 04 05:40:00 Tb0n3, and this: https://maemo.org/community/wiki/flasher_tool_usage.html Oct 04 05:40:12 can you teach them to monkey pls - i'm off Oct 04 05:40:35 pupnikzzz, later, and good luck with your port Oct 04 05:40:41 aha Oct 04 05:40:44 shut off Oct 04 05:40:45 :D Oct 04 05:40:54 well, I'll be back Oct 04 05:58:53 yay, I figured out what it was Oct 04 05:58:58 I didn't turn it on Oct 04 05:59:03 hooray for rtfming Oct 04 06:00:13 guess, I'll see how 2007 is Oct 04 06:01:03 2007 been quite ok so far Oct 04 06:53:59 is it a known feature that after running command: "PAGER=less fakeroot apt-get dist-upgrade" when upgrading SDK, the network stops working? Oct 04 06:55:00 I'm guessing you mead upgrading from 3.1 to 3.2 Oct 04 06:55:07 jeps Oct 04 06:55:08 and no, it's not a feature Oct 04 06:55:54 I tried to do that twice, and the problem occured twice.. Oct 04 06:57:06 is there a "nice and clean way" to install maemo SDK directly to the latest version without doing any apt-get update stuff? Oct 04 06:57:39 not for 3.2 Oct 04 06:57:53 it's such a minor upgrade Oct 04 06:57:55 how about the 4.0 beta Oct 04 06:57:58 ? Oct 04 06:58:36 beta 4.0 will install stuff from the internet Oct 04 06:59:00 are you starting from scratch? I mean first scratchbox install and all... Oct 04 06:59:20 jeps I'm a newbie:) Oct 04 06:59:35 ok, then it might be the 'well known' bug Oct 04 06:59:36 waiting my first N800 to arrive in few days.. Oct 04 06:59:52 you plan on buying more than one? :) Oct 04 07:00:28 the problem is most likely in /scratchbox/etc/nsswitch.conf Oct 04 07:00:44 it's copied directly from your host system when you install sb Oct 04 07:01:22 ok and I have done the "host: files dns" modification to that file.. Oct 04 07:01:23 and the line beginning with 'hosts:' should only have options 'files dns' Oct 04 07:01:33 after that apt-get update works Oct 04 07:01:50 but after running "PAGER=less..." network stops working Oct 04 07:02:31 it should not touch anything that would affect the network connections Oct 04 07:03:10 when you upgrade, does it still fetch and install the packages and then stop working Oct 04 07:03:27 yes Oct 04 07:03:48 so you get the latest stuff and then it'll get broken Oct 04 07:03:53 yes Oct 04 07:04:01 does the same happen with 4.0 beta? Oct 04 07:04:23 no, I haven't tried that yet, but I'm planning to try it tonight Oct 04 07:06:07 or maybe I should try it out now and waste valuable "time" here at work:) Oct 04 07:06:25 :) Oct 04 07:07:38 jjo_, my problem is not familiar to you? Oct 04 07:08:32 I've never heard anything like that Oct 04 07:08:54 if you figure it out, I'd like to know what went wrond though Oct 04 07:09:24 make sure nsswitch.conf and resolv.conf are correct on both, host and the target side Oct 04 07:09:49 eg. /scratchbox/etc/nsswitch.conf and /etc/nsswitch.conf inside scratchbox Oct 04 07:09:58 and same for the resolv.conf Oct 04 07:10:01 but nothing should touch those files Oct 04 07:10:12 but there's no harm in checking Oct 04 07:10:18 I've had two problems orignally..the first was that could get network working with wlan. The fix was not to use wlan. May the existence of the two network interface fo something? Oct 04 07:10:33 fo=do Oct 04 07:10:37 don't know about anything touching the files, from there i would start solving the problem :) Oct 04 07:10:56 if my network would be unresponsive Oct 04 07:10:58 that is Oct 04 07:11:06 jumpula, the network works before running the "PAGER=less.." command Oct 04 07:11:49 that's interesting, since that only specifies the command using which text files are viewed Oct 04 07:12:04 shouldn't have an effect like that Oct 04 07:12:49 the command was the one specified to upgrade from 3.1 to 3.2 Oct 04 07:13:25 yeah Oct 04 07:13:48 then it upgrades fine and network stops working, and that's just weird Oct 04 07:24:23 btw, has anyone tried to use/build QTopia on N800? Someone had build KDE for N800, but I think it's not very usable... Oct 04 08:05:52 Morning, all Oct 04 08:53:30 bon dia / good morning Oct 04 08:57:59 hyv�� huomenta Oct 04 09:11:30 do you know the status of hildon input method framework in chinook ? Oct 04 09:34:30 -/nick pupnik Oct 04 09:48:38 no irc before coffee for me! Oct 04 09:54:16 morning all Oct 04 09:54:23 mogeh Oct 04 10:12:19 morning Oct 04 10:12:20 <_Monkey> aloha Oct 04 10:13:21 o/ Oct 04 10:18:49 morning ppl Oct 04 10:20:11 anything wrong with the maemo site? Oct 04 10:21:01 not anymore, strange Oct 04 10:28:57 is it possible to have a media upnp server outside the subnet? e.g. I have a wifi-router that is attached to a switch, on that switch the server is also attached, but my 770 connects through the wifi-router Oct 04 10:30:39 edistar: it is difficult, as the SSDP udp multicast is supposed to stay in the lan Oct 04 10:30:45 http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?t=16816 DOSBox 0.7x problem with pointer alignment (or endianness?) since cvs commit Jan 24, 2007. Likely candidate in vga_memory.cpp Please pass the hat and see if someone can help. Oct 04 10:32:50 dev: ok, thx Oct 04 11:02:45 pupnik: Did you see Serge's reply on ITT? Oct 04 11:04:43 nope Oct 04 11:05:12 * lardman searches for it Oct 04 11:05:31 http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10196 Oct 04 11:05:36 ty Oct 04 11:08:47 is 2.6.18-omap1 the kernel version of 4.2007.38-2 ? Oct 04 11:09:10 you might also want to look at any structs: http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail//maemo-developers/2007-September/011682.html Oct 04 11:15:29 zwnj: It must be the same as the previous version as you can get away with only flashing the kernel (i.e. no modules) Oct 04 11:18:04 well, i just flashed the kernel, as described here http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=79099&postcount=61 . so the only thing i can check is the date, yes? Oct 04 11:18:47 the kernel date is 21 Sep, is it the new one? Oct 04 11:19:21 ah, hang on, I've not flashed it, I'll tell you mine Oct 04 11:20:08 Mine's Sun Aug 12th Oct 04 11:20:48 ah, but mine's been rebuilt, so ignore that Oct 04 11:21:22 anyone with the previous N800 kernel care to give the output of uname -a ? Oct 04 11:22:44 wow lardman you rule Oct 04 11:22:48 [96001.396148] Alignment trap: dosbox (1363) PC=0x000962d0 Instr=0xe5802004 Addres s=0x014ab5eb FSR 0x813 Oct 04 11:25:44 now you just have to work out how to find the code that does that! Oct 04 11:26:31 probably a single arcane gdb instruction :) Oct 04 11:28:38 zwnj: I think you should be safe, that date is well and truly after the release date of the last image Oct 04 11:30:23 I'm trying to install the Maemo 3.2 root strap. I followed the tutorial and am now trying to build some stuff. When I run apt-get update && apt-get install -f, I get: The following packages will be REMOVED: bash evolution-data-server-dev hildon-base-lib-dev hildon-control-panel-dev... Oct 04 11:30:44 which looks pretty bad Oct 04 11:31:03 any ideas why 3.2 wouldn't work? Oct 04 11:31:07 or what I need to add? Oct 04 11:31:18 why are you upgrading? Oct 04 11:31:27 I'm not upgrading Oct 04 11:31:30 I'm installing Oct 04 11:31:42 what does apt-get install -f do? Oct 04 11:31:43 I started with nothing Oct 04 11:31:47 oh Oct 04 11:31:52 it tries to fix my installation Oct 04 11:32:13 dunno then, I just downloaded the rootstrap and left it be Oct 04 11:32:43 well I need to install some packages to be able to work on what I'd like Oct 04 11:33:18 No idea, sorry. I no almost nothing about how the debian package system works Oct 04 11:33:32 no! oops, that's very poor - know even Oct 04 11:39:30 http://pastebin.ca/725396 Oct 04 11:39:48 lul bt Oct 04 11:43:00 pupnik: I didn't think backtraces were supposed to work on ARM, probably depends on the compilation options though Oct 04 11:43:04 hi Oct 04 11:44:17 I'm trying to build some software (microb), which says it needs libcairo2, bc and some other packages. Where does one get these from ? Oct 04 11:45:08 the maemo repo I guess, it should be setup already afaicr Oct 04 11:46:04 libcairo, strange that's needed and isn't already installed.... Oct 04 11:46:43 apt-get install libcairp2-dev Oct 04 11:46:52 E: Couldn't find package libcairo2-dev Oct 04 11:46:57 etc. Oct 04 11:47:15 from here deb http://repository.maemo.org/ bora free non-free Oct 04 11:47:35 you haven't grabbed the source for a new version of microb? Chinook is supposed to use cairo Oct 04 11:47:52 browser is from svn Oct 04 11:48:37 I have libcairo.so.2.11.4 installed on my n800 Oct 04 11:48:55 lardman: Do you have evince? Oct 04 11:49:08 zuh: yes, I may have Oct 04 11:49:25 AFAIK cairo isn't in the official images, but evince pulls it in from extras or somewhere... Oct 04 11:49:45 ah, okay Oct 04 11:53:17 lardman: maybe someday we get a /dev/sound/sequencer? dsptask for alsa? :) Oct 04 11:54:02 pupnik: You never know. This bloody vorbis decoder is a real pita though - debugging on the DSP is not quick and easy Oct 04 11:54:15 :/ Oct 04 11:54:41 pupnik: at least not using the free tools, the Windows stuff from Ti has a remote debugger, would be nice :) Oct 04 11:54:58 has nokia expressed any interest in your work yet? Oct 04 11:55:23 I've not produced anything yet! :) Oct 04 11:55:37 It would be a community add-on anyway Oct 04 11:56:16 I think the reason there's no dsp vorbis task atm was something to do with lawyers Oct 04 11:57:12 but I have been talking to some of the Nokia DSP people and they were helpful and friendly, so I'm quite content Oct 04 11:59:41 lardman, hi, you use Trace32 for debugging? Oct 04 12:00:26 mbuf: no, looks commercial to me? Oct 04 12:00:56 lardman, yes Oct 04 12:01:30 it crashes at vga.latch.d=((Bit32u*)vga.mem.linear)[start] Oct 04 12:01:35 gdb = cool Oct 04 12:01:49 mbuf: this is an amateur hobby for me Oct 04 12:02:11 lardman, i see Oct 04 12:02:52 I also think that to use any sort of remote debugger I'll need support in the dsp kernel, and I'm not sure what's in there - I don't want to recompile if I can avoid it Oct 04 12:07:36 (gdb) set print address on Oct 04 12:07:36 (gdb) p 66712 Oct 04 12:07:36 $2 = 66712 Oct 04 12:07:45 * pupnik is confuzled Oct 04 12:08:14 l *0xXXXXX Oct 04 12:08:37 that will print the code corresponding to a memory address Oct 04 12:09:27 ty Oct 04 12:14:40 pupnik: Come on, put us out of our misery, what's caused the problem! Oct 04 12:14:51 :) Oct 04 12:16:56 a cast Oct 04 12:17:10 vga.latch.d=((Bit32u*)vga.mem.linear)[start]; Oct 04 12:17:35 removing (Bit32u*) got past the error Oct 04 12:18:30 well done Oct 04 12:20:34 it is all Qbix telling me what to do Oct 04 12:50:34 hi :P Oct 04 12:53:52 morning all Oct 04 12:56:51 * pupnik is too happy Oct 04 12:57:21 * Tak|work punches pupnik to even him out Oct 04 12:58:40 * pupnik ~wobbles~ Oct 04 13:00:26 so what did that fix? Oct 04 13:01:08 there's no real fix yet - but it was dosbox's uint32 pointer cast that caused the unaligned access Oct 04 13:01:30 ah Oct 04 13:04:25 how long until I can play Tie Fighter in dosbox? :-P Oct 04 13:04:42 ooo, or daggerfall Oct 04 13:06:28 not soon Oct 04 13:06:41 hahaha, I'm kidding anyway Oct 04 13:07:01 have you tried daggerfall on PC dosbox? Oct 04 13:07:12 I think that if I saw daggerfall on an IT, my head would explode Oct 04 13:07:25 no, but I've done Tie Fighter Oct 04 13:07:58 daggerfall really needs the dynamic recomp and it's slow on my p3 950mhz Oct 04 13:08:28 I have an ancient laptop with a freedos boot solely for daggerfall Oct 04 13:08:56 ancient == less powerful than an n800 Oct 04 13:08:57 awesome ccheers - i absolutely love arena/daggerfall Oct 04 13:09:03 ditto Oct 04 13:09:40 I got one of those 586 coprocessor upgrades specifically to make the arena->daggerfall transition Oct 04 13:09:44 oh, and more ram Oct 04 13:10:07 though the daggerfall dungeons are pretty crazy imo Oct 04 13:10:32