**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Oct 14 02:59:56 2007 Oct 14 03:53:13 I have thick walls, hope the N800 will be able to pick up on the wifi signal. Oct 14 03:54:16 What's the preferred solution for scratchbox in windows? Oct 14 03:54:42 I have ubuntu in vmware but if there were some better way... Oct 14 03:54:45 I haven't tried but there's a vmware image Oct 14 03:54:55 ah ok Oct 14 03:55:21 ah yeah I seem to recall someone mentioning that Oct 14 04:09:56 sciboy, the N800 has about the best wifi reception on any device ever. ;) Oct 14 04:12:02 <|R> GeneralAntilles: agreed :) Oct 14 04:12:23 GeneralAntilles, Just hoping that's enough. Oct 14 04:13:10 Well, it worked fine in my parents house with 1 wireless router, and lots of lead paint and plaster. ;) Oct 14 04:13:17 Doesn't make it through the last wall for all my devices. Oct 14 04:13:46 Although you go to the door and reception is perfect. Oct 14 04:14:15 I have a WiFi AP with an 10m of ethernet taking advantage of that for my desktop pc. =P Oct 14 04:14:31 At worst, just go pick up another router for $40 and another run of Cat5. Oct 14 04:15:12 I already ate into my gadget budget with the N800. =P Oct 14 04:15:58 Go sell some blood or something, then. :P Oct 14 04:16:40 Anyway it's just the last wall killing the reception, hopefully the N800 will get through it. Oct 14 04:18:02 Seems likely Oct 14 04:18:40 It picks up about 10 networks from my apartment, compared to 3 with my G5. Oct 14 04:19:33 re Oct 14 04:22:14 Still haven't gotten an ETA for my order. =( Oct 14 04:42:10 Oh cool, I failed to notice in my initial enquiry they said the delivery should take a few days since they're in stock. Oct 14 04:42:39 They should be able to confirm my bank transfer tomorrow. Oct 14 05:59:40 * |R is trying to figure out how to setup a dev env to cross compile some utils... Oct 14 05:59:54 * |R misses strings / md5sum ;) Oct 14 06:00:14 linux? Oct 14 06:00:14 <_Monkey> rumour has it linux is a free kernel thats inside most open source operating systems today and its a core technology for Maemo Oct 14 06:00:22 <|R> yep Oct 14 06:00:48 listed in /dev directory? Oct 14 06:01:05 <|R> what? Oct 14 06:01:11 <|R> no a development environment, not /dev :) Oct 14 06:01:15 or you mean setting variable ENV? Oct 14 06:01:39 <|R> maemo 3.2 SDK Oct 14 06:01:41 <|R> or some such... Oct 14 06:01:57 should be set in .bashrc or similar Oct 14 06:02:43 <|R> zoran : what? :P i mean installing the whole thing... Oct 14 06:03:00 hm Oct 14 06:03:01 <|R> http://maemo.org/development/sdks/maemo-3-x--bora-.html Oct 14 06:03:03 <|R> this Oct 14 06:03:10 lemme c Oct 14 06:04:00 there is install.txt Oct 14 06:04:23 strange Oct 14 06:04:26 <|R> why? Oct 14 06:04:33 I saw different manual for that Oct 14 06:04:40 <|R> any suggestions? :) Oct 14 06:05:14 I recall downloading 3 or 4 files from the net Oct 14 06:05:23 then just unziping them somewhere Oct 14 06:05:31 and fine tutorial Oct 14 06:05:43 <|R> this tutorial seems painful... Oct 14 06:05:47 I never installed it cause I have bsd box and it did not work Oct 14 06:06:02 ah, yes, it differs from what I knew Oct 14 06:06:26 after making new site, I cannot find what I want Oct 14 06:06:41 and the tutorial was 1 ot more Mb Oct 14 06:06:52 very large and informative Oct 14 06:07:03 with steps to install and everything Oct 14 06:07:10 maybe you could google for it? Oct 14 06:08:00 <|R> I'll look :) Oct 14 06:09:35 k, found Oct 14 06:09:53 tutorials/Maemo_tutorial_bora.html Oct 14 06:10:17 <|R> ? Oct 14 06:10:40 <|R> ah yes Oct 14 06:10:40 development/documentation/tutorials/Maemo_tutorial_bora.html Oct 14 06:10:49 <|R> i have it open already hehe :) Oct 14 06:10:54 :) Oct 14 06:10:59 good luck Oct 14 06:11:02 <|R> thanks :) Oct 14 06:11:04 :) Oct 14 06:11:14 <|R> http://www.internettablettalk.com/wiki/index.php/Installing_Maemo_SDK_on_Scratchbox Oct 14 06:11:16 <|R> found this too Oct 14 06:11:45 I had an idea to make just one thing: to recompiile the kernel Oct 14 06:12:05 and to buy a white box and a lot of pain... Oct 14 06:12:12 just dor stupid module Oct 14 06:12:16 *for Oct 14 06:12:49 I always expected from nokia repository of kernel modules Oct 14 06:13:28 <|R> hehe Oct 14 06:13:45 I was so mad that I did not use 770 for months Oct 14 06:14:13 my fault, I expected too much Oct 14 06:15:05 btw, |R, do you have linux box handy? Oct 14 06:15:52 <|R> for? Oct 14 06:16:06 I had a problem making files on usb flash Oct 14 06:16:14 8.3 problem Oct 14 06:16:25 on freebsd I made it as msdos fs Oct 14 06:16:32 and read it as vfat Oct 14 06:16:35 on linux Oct 14 06:16:52 I thought I should see it as long names Oct 14 06:19:42 <|R> mkfs.dos ? Oct 14 06:20:18 hm, vfat shoud read more than 8.3 Oct 14 06:20:23 *should Oct 14 06:20:40 it is brand new usb stick Oct 14 06:22:21 <|R> yep... you need joliet extensions maybe? Oct 14 06:22:52 hm, I use it on making cd Oct 14 06:23:01 to see it on windows boxes Oct 14 06:23:14 <|R> then i'm lost :| Oct 14 06:23:18 but, this is newly bought flash Oct 14 06:23:23 k :) Oct 14 06:50:48 <|R> ok wtf, my scratchbox-core is too old according to the script... if i change it to 0.0.1 (min required) it still complains :P Oct 14 07:25:37 Is anyone interested in doing some commercial work for the N800? PM me for more details Oct 14 10:01:08 Hello :) Oct 14 10:02:15 Hi. =D Oct 14 11:08:38 ok, i reflashed my n800 so that i could start afresh, and so that i could fix my broken app manager... why is it that after half an hour of fiddling, after one of many occasions when i edit sources.list, the app manager is now broken again..... Oct 14 11:13:19 * sciboy shrugs. Oct 14 11:19:02 You did something wrong? Oct 14 11:19:11 What's the log showing? Oct 14 11:48:32 flip^: well, clearly, whatever you did that broke it the first time, you did again. Oct 14 12:00:06 HI Oct 14 12:00:58 Does somebody know how to install octave on N800 with IT OS 2007? Oct 14 12:01:40 Ar-ras: octave is a problem since it has some many dependencies Oct 14 12:04:57 Do you mean that there are no ready compiled packages fpr IT OS 2007? Oct 14 12:10:20 yep Oct 14 12:12:59 Is there somebody with the needed skill to compile it for N800? Oct 14 12:14:09 I would pay 25 Euro by paypal for a crosscompiled version. Oct 14 12:17:23 Cross compiled version of what? Oct 14 12:17:31 Ähm Oct 14 12:17:41 No idea what that is :) Oct 14 12:17:45 :D Oct 14 12:17:59 If you take a source of a normal linux version Oct 14 12:18:10 and use header from the maemo sdk Oct 14 12:18:19 or something like that Oct 14 12:18:20 :D Oct 14 12:19:19 I want Octave for my N800, to use it for my chemistry study Oct 14 12:19:49 And I read that it would work on N800 Oct 14 12:19:50 http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7724 Oct 14 12:20:15 but that packages seems to be incompatible with N800 Oct 14 12:20:53 i downloaded directly the arm.deb files Oct 14 12:20:56 You could try installing it from the command line. Oct 14 12:21:04 'dpkg -i package.deb` Oct 14 12:22:43 so i change with xterm to the memory card and run that? Oct 14 12:26:03 alterego i need root access Oct 14 12:26:07 so i use sudo Oct 14 12:26:17 what is the password? Oct 14 12:26:17 <_Monkey> the password is probably "rootme" (change it instantly) Oct 14 12:26:20 the root password is rootme Oct 14 12:26:23 :) Oct 14 12:26:23 ok Oct 14 12:26:30 :) Oct 14 12:27:00 lol "Sorry, try again" Oct 14 12:27:29 Don't use sudo Oct 14 12:27:33 use su Oct 14 12:27:37 ok Oct 14 12:29:07 "su: applet requires root privileges!" Oct 14 12:29:33 Look for a tutorial on gaining root access. Oct 14 12:29:37 There's on on the wiki Oct 14 12:29:42 gainroot Oct 14 12:29:42 <_Monkey> gainroot is a quick howto to become root here http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowTo_EASILY_BecomeRoot and more information is here http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowDoiBecomeRoot Oct 14 12:41:24 ok Oct 14 12:41:31 got root by ssh Oct 14 12:41:43 8) Oct 14 12:43:06 mmh Oct 14 12:43:26 dpkg wants octave 2.9 Oct 14 13:19:06 Is anyone interested in doing some commercial work for the N800? PM me for more details Oct 14 13:27:59 :S Oct 14 13:28:23 says that it doesnt accept because it is wrong platform Oct 14 13:28:33 arm and not armel Oct 14 13:28:37 :( Oct 14 13:29:01 does somebody has the correct packages? Oct 14 14:06:50 Source fixes everything. Oct 14 14:07:39 sciboy ? Oct 14 14:07:40 <_Monkey> rumour has it sciboy is my username at gp32x Oct 14 14:08:29 Ar-ras ? Oct 14 14:08:36 .. Oct 14 14:08:38 sciboy ? Oct 14 14:08:38 <_Monkey> you are my username at gp32x? Oct 14 14:08:45 o_o Oct 14 14:08:55 Why did you choose that to quote me. Oct 14 14:09:03 sciboy is funny, tee hee hee. Oct 14 14:09:06 sciboy ? Oct 14 14:09:06 <_Monkey> you are my username at gp32x? Oct 14 14:09:08 sciboy ? Oct 14 14:09:09 <_Monkey> you are my username at gp32x? Oct 14 14:09:11 =( Oct 14 14:09:20 bot Oct 14 14:09:29 sciboy Oct 14 14:09:30 <_Monkey> i guess sciboy is my username at gp32x? Oct 14 14:09:43 zoran? Oct 14 14:09:43 <_Monkey> zoran is modest guy Oct 14 14:09:50 kh-kh Oct 14 14:19:54 hello ppl Oct 14 14:21:34 lol Oct 14 14:21:46 people say hello Oct 14 14:31:19 anyone here have a 770 handy Oct 14 14:31:37 nein das heißt mobile auf englisch Oct 14 14:31:43 und außerdem ist das kein handy Oct 14 14:32:27 :D Oct 14 14:32:45 haha Oct 14 14:32:52 i do Oct 14 14:36:22 handy == ready to use in this moment Oct 14 14:39:40 hehe Oct 14 14:41:24 I am trying to use import evolution.ebook as evo at N800. When I do that, I´ve got ImportError: could not import evolution.ebook and ImportError: No module named evolution.ebook Oct 14 14:42:03 does somebody uses octave? Oct 14 14:42:06 what packages must i have to install? Oct 14 14:59:15 someone has any kingston usb flash stick? mine is probably preformatted to fat16. shows 8.3 names. unbielavable Oct 14 15:04:07 anyone can help me with import evolution? Oct 14 15:04:35 glaubervinicius: what is url of this package 'import evolution'? Oct 14 15:05:45 I found greenbirdsystems.com/evolution-python; is it your app? Oct 14 15:06:29 pupnik, i have used http://www.conduit-project.org/wiki/evolution-python Oct 14 15:06:50 pupnik, i hav installed from this repository http://maemo.o-hand.com/packages Oct 14 15:08:38 zoran, i this link is broke Oct 14 15:09:36 hm, I opened it few secs before Oct 14 15:09:43 add www Oct 14 15:10:26 http://www.o-hand.com/ perhaps you should contact these people directly, glaubervinicius Oct 14 15:11:08 ok pupnik, i will try Oct 14 15:11:37 glaubervinicius: also you can try to install packages ignoring dependencies, using dpkg -i Oct 14 15:14:38 repositories Oct 14 15:14:39 <_Monkey> somebody said repositories was http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ApplicationRepositories and a searchable index at http://www.gronmayer.com/n800/repos/index.php Oct 14 15:16:16 evolution looks like an interesting PIM suite Oct 14 15:32:15 Tak|work: around? Oct 14 15:35:07 Tak|work: fceu main.c has a default soundrate of 48000 long soundrate=48000;, this variable gets passed to fceu engine for sound emu - i found not much difference lowering it - but it should be at 8192 i think. I also found that soundbufsize gets passed to fceu engine long soundbufsize=24; and increasing it to around 512 reduced skipping Oct 14 15:39:30 wb zerojay Oct 14 15:39:45 does somebody get octave working on N800? Oct 14 15:43:00 what's octave? Oct 14 15:43:00 <_Monkey> octave is a problem since it has some many dependencies Oct 14 15:43:48 octave = matLab Clone Oct 14 15:43:57 pupnik: Thanks. Oct 14 15:44:03 ok thx Oct 14 15:44:13 * flip^ grimaces at mention of matlab Oct 14 15:44:19 yeah same here :) Oct 14 15:44:51 makes me immediately thinks it doesn't mix with handhelds :) Oct 14 15:45:26 :( Oct 14 15:45:48 _Monkey: Octave is a matlab clone Oct 14 15:45:48 <_Monkey> ...but octave is a problem since it has some many dependencies... Oct 14 15:46:01 _Monkey, forget octave Oct 14 15:46:02 <_Monkey> celesteh: I forgot octave Oct 14 15:46:26 _Monkey: Octave is a matlab clone that can be a problem because it has so many dependencies Oct 14 15:46:27 <_Monkey> OK, celesteh. Oct 14 15:46:37 octave? Oct 14 15:46:37 <_Monkey> octave is a matlab clone that can be a problem because it has so many dependencies Oct 14 15:47:01 app catalog 2006 shows 4 deps Oct 14 15:47:21 armin-varda/de/arno Oct 14 15:47:39 ? what does that mean? Oct 14 15:47:50 Octave? Oct 14 15:47:51 <_Monkey> Octave is a matlab clone that can be a problem because it has so many dependencies Oct 14 15:47:52 _Monkey? Oct 14 15:47:53 <_Monkey> celesteh? Oct 14 15:47:54 repository for 2006; Oct 14 15:48:08 if lucky, maybve works for 2007 Oct 14 15:48:50 btw, do you have some binaty for octave? Oct 14 15:48:55 *binary Oct 14 15:49:24 whyly@gmx.net is a contact Oct 14 15:49:45 zoran Oct 14 15:49:58 huh Oct 14 15:49:59 i dont found compatible binary# Oct 14 15:50:09 ask the man Oct 14 15:50:13 whyly Oct 14 15:50:15 wrote a mail to him Oct 14 15:50:24 no answer till now Oct 14 15:50:43 but if i could find the 2006 binaries... Oct 14 15:50:57 but dont know where they are :(+ Oct 14 15:51:14 just found some arm but not armel binaries Oct 14 15:51:25 maemo.org/maemowiki/ApplicationCatalog2006 Oct 14 15:51:44 I heard that there is a diff Oct 14 15:52:50 diff in what? Oct 14 15:54:02 arm vs armel or else Oct 14 15:54:07 dunno Oct 14 15:56:45 yeah Oct 14 15:56:57 that are armel binaries Oct 14 15:57:59 should it be arm for n800? Oct 14 15:58:50 no Oct 14 15:58:54 armel is correct Oct 14 15:59:01 it installed Oct 14 15:59:03 but Oct 14 15:59:16 i cant find it in the "start menu" Oct 14 15:59:18 see the list of 4 dependencies Oct 14 15:59:26 no big deal :) Oct 14 15:59:31 call it from command line Oct 14 15:59:40 octave &; exit Oct 14 16:00:24 want demos of the OMAP 3430 doing OpenGL graphics? http://www.imgtec.com/PowerVR/insider/Demos/index.asp Oct 14 16:00:32 (mpeg video) Oct 14 16:01:33 hehe i have installed octave Oct 14 16:01:35 not technically the omap though still - same gpu Oct 14 16:01:45 but now it is to complicated for me :D Oct 14 16:02:32 nothing is too complicated for n800 user! Oct 14 16:02:37 hehe Oct 14 16:02:45 but i thought it would have a gui Oct 14 16:02:55 what it is in deed? Oct 14 16:03:06 it should be a CAS Oct 14 16:03:10 Computer Algebra System Oct 14 16:03:29 I thought so ... Oct 14 16:03:45 hm, like it with lemon Oct 14 16:03:55 uh Oct 14 16:04:04 does it work for you now? Oct 14 16:04:08 lemon is CAS for N800? Oct 14 16:04:21 it is a buggy shell :S Oct 14 16:04:56 standard xterm or maemo-hackers' one? Oct 14 16:05:11 xterm from maemo-hackers repo Oct 14 16:05:44 shell is ash Oct 14 16:06:11 if you could install bash and call it from prompt: "bash" Oct 14 16:06:25 where is the prompt? Oct 14 16:06:34 I had an issue making bash default via chsh Oct 14 16:06:45 prompt? Oct 14 16:06:58 the very first sign on the line Oct 14 16:07:02 :) Oct 14 16:07:14 so Oct 14 16:07:24 use xterm to start bash? Oct 14 16:07:59 could be safer Oct 14 16:08:05 just type bash Oct 14 16:08:09 mothing else Oct 14 16:08:15 ? Oct 14 16:08:19 on N800? Oct 14 16:08:26 if you have a prob with ash Oct 14 16:08:33 why not? Oct 14 16:08:42 you haev spare space as you liek Oct 14 16:08:48 and where is the command line? Oct 14 16:08:55 on the xterm Oct 14 16:09:40 ok Oct 14 16:09:49 what problem it shows? Oct 14 16:10:01 I never saw it in action Oct 14 16:10:11 Do you know an alternative Program for using N800 as CAS? Oct 14 16:10:27 bc? Oct 14 16:11:01 bc? is that the name of the program? Oct 14 16:11:15 if you find one in perl and python, you could port it in a sec Oct 14 16:11:25 yes, bc, in app cat 2006 Oct 14 16:12:17 ah, no bc for 2007 Oct 14 16:12:30 strange Oct 14 16:14:45 k, found something called "maxima" for perl Oct 14 16:15:54 is there nothing with GUI? Oct 14 16:16:31 hm Oct 14 16:17:00 informatik.uni-leipzig.de/~graebe Oct 14 16:18:01 ? Oct 14 16:18:05 link Oct 14 16:19:20 folks, somebody had to reformat usb drive to handle long names? Oct 14 16:19:27 anybody with n800 and fceu NES emulator installed want to test a tweaked version? i am curious to know if sound is better .. http://pupnik.de/fceu2_test.tgz Oct 14 16:20:02 zoran Why did you posted that link? Oct 14 16:20:19 for you to take a look at math progs Oct 14 16:20:47 <|R> pupnik : i was testing for tak who fixed the flickering with button press and trying to recover the UI at startup but i didn't notice any problem with sound on my n800, so maybe i'm not the best tester for that :) Oct 14 16:21:15 * zoran goes to see if dragons still use fire to burn Oct 14 16:21:35 zoran I am from Leipzig Oct 14 16:22:08 |R: when music plays, you do not hear stuttering/slow music? Oct 14 16:23:13 <|R> no, the only thing slow is the video refresh Oct 14 16:23:26 <|R> well let me see, maybe i'm too tolerant and didn't notice brb :) Oct 14 16:24:06 <|R> (btw, anyone has their applet all unchecked after a screen sleep?!) Oct 14 16:24:41 zeez writes "Except for the sound stuttering a bit" Oct 14 16:26:19 <|R> nop, no stuttering here Oct 14 16:27:35 <|R> the applet thing is weird, if i reboot they come back, but in the menu they are all unchecked Oct 14 16:27:36 <|R> ... Oct 14 16:35:24 <|R> is there anything special to know to change the logos in: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/hildon Oct 14 16:35:38 hi Oct 14 16:35:40 <|R> (are they signed somewhere? keep same resolution? special formats? Oct 14 16:35:41 <|R> ) Oct 14 16:41:13 copy them to pc and examine Oct 14 16:41:33 <|R> that's what i've done, just wondering if there is any counter indications ;) Oct 14 16:41:47 <|R> don't want to reinstall everything just because i changed the bootup screen :P Oct 14 17:14:43 \o/ my old craptastic nokia syncs with ntp now Oct 14 17:14:46 whoops Oct 14 17:14:54 wrong channel :P Oct 14 17:40:22 Good afternoon all Oct 14 17:40:53 I'm trying to find a build of the Nano editor for the n800 Oct 14 17:41:19 One was listed at maemo.com but the link is aparently no good Oct 14 17:41:37 searched gronmayer? Oct 14 17:41:41 repositories Oct 14 17:41:42 <_Monkey> repositories is http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ApplicationRepositories and a searchable index at http://www.gronmayer.com/n800/repos/index.php Oct 14 17:41:56 thanks Oct 14 17:41:58 checking Oct 14 17:48:54 same result. it says 'nano' is in the maemo 3.0 repository but it simply isn't there Oct 14 17:49:38 ie, doesn't show up in the installable apps list when that repo is added (I already had it) Oct 14 17:50:19 the packager should be informed of this Oct 14 17:52:13 K Oct 14 17:52:46 i don't have a local copy for you sorry Oct 14 17:58:51 pupnik: np. Tanks for the guidance. Perhaps this is a good oportunity for me to grab the SDB and learn how to build and package for the N800 Oct 14 17:59:32 from the docs, it appears the toolchain is well defined and the packaging is streight forward .deb more or less Oct 14 18:29:15 pupnik: FYI this thread seems to discuss the nano problem. I guess it's just not in a repo as it should be http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-5627.html Oct 14 18:29:31 I haven't tried the package from the indicated source though (yet) Oct 14 18:52:33 Hi I am shopping for an SD card and was wondering if I am limited to 4G HDSC or if I could go to 8GB or even 16GB Oct 14 18:54:23 8GB is the limit Oct 14 18:54:51 I think I read somewhere that 16GB will be supported in future firmwares, but I could be mistaken about that Oct 14 18:55:23 Where can I verify that? Oct 14 18:56:20 searching on http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/ would be a good place to start Oct 14 18:56:34 OK thanks, I will Oct 14 19:19:55 I thought SDHC standard goes way higher than 8GB. Sounds kind of like artificial limitation. Oct 14 19:21:25 They probably only had 8GB cards to test with. Oct 14 19:21:34 It's not like 16GB cards are easy to find. Oct 14 19:26:35 then again, I haven't even tried anything over 2GB in my n800 yet. Oct 14 19:29:35 my dropbear ssh client is giving "Segmentation fault" :( Oct 14 19:39:47 how do I find the local ip my n800 has? Oct 14 19:43:01 The connection manager has that, Oct 14 19:44:09 "Connection Manager" (Menu) -> "Internet connection" -> "IP Address" Oct 14 19:45:35 ssh + xmms-shell in xterm on the 770 makes a decent stereo remote for my server connected to speakers/TV :P Oct 14 19:46:45 I'd probably wrap that up in a slim web app : Oct 14 19:47:07 hrmm Oct 14 19:47:21 i do know PHP, but it'd be awkward, since i suck at php.. Oct 14 19:47:33 :) Oct 14 19:47:44 I used to write CGI scripts in sh :P Oct 14 19:47:52 You don't have to use PHP. Oct 14 19:47:58 heh, i'd have a bunch of php system() commands Oct 14 19:49:07 Who of you tried an "OpenVPN client" under N800? :) Oct 14 19:49:10 ericz: re ssh+xterm i think there are projects aiming for a gui remote for music Oct 14 19:49:35 ericz, if that was all you were doing then maybe you should do it in bash or whatever ;) Oct 14 19:59:52 just setup shoutcast. Oct 14 20:10:39 "SBOX_CPUTRANSPARENCY_METHOD" what is that variable? Oct 14 20:10:51 It says that I need to define it... Oct 14 20:12:58 Are there any GPS devices you can recommend. I saw a link to a 29.99 device in the form once but can't find it anymore Oct 14 20:13:20 forum Oct 14 20:13:38 anyone else found that with the latest flash, the application launcher crashes every so often just at the end of an installation? Oct 14 20:13:41 I've got a $30 usb-gps thing, works nicely Oct 14 20:14:16 where did you get it and why did you get usb vs blue Oct 14 20:14:18 But i'd recommend a bluetooth type, due to impractical usb-connectors on 770/800 :) Oct 14 20:14:37 That's what I thought Oct 14 20:14:45 Some local store, nothing special about it Oct 14 20:14:53 ok thanks Oct 14 20:25:08 alterego: thank you! Oct 14 20:27:15 :) Oct 14 20:30:39 has anyone had .deb of evolution-python-0.0.4 for armel? Oct 14 20:40:18 where do I find the 'route' command? Oct 14 20:46:00 in /sbin? Oct 14 20:46:56 glaubervinicius, check easy's mailing list (google groups) Oct 14 20:47:13 I sent an early version there Oct 14 20:48:40 * DRoBeR is away: detached client =) Oct 14 20:50:56 lmoura, what is the google group name? Oct 14 20:53:24 disq: there it is...wasn't in my path Oct 14 20:53:24 thank you Oct 14 20:59:16 lmoura, i have not found the easy group at google. Oct 14 21:26:54 hmm, is guardiani.us dead? :( Oct 14 21:34:53 yeah it's down atm Oct 14 21:35:29 thank goodness for google's cache :) Oct 14 21:36:49 tho finding acmonitor could be a pain Oct 14 21:37:42 pupnik.de has it Oct 14 21:38:14 aha, so it does. ta Oct 14 21:39:30 pupnik: are the 770 and n800 versions actually difference Oct 14 21:39:31 er Oct 14 21:39:33 different Oct 14 21:39:39 as you only seem to have the 770 version mirrored ;) Oct 14 21:39:51 yes i made the 770 version Oct 14 21:40:45 i presume it'd be better for me to have the n800 one tho? Oct 14 21:41:17 both should work actually, the 800 version helps keep network connection alive supposedly Oct 14 21:41:29 * flip^ nods Oct 14 21:41:36 well, i guess i can leave claws running to achieve that :) Oct 14 21:43:32 ok, before i reflashed, i used to have this nifty little thing on my status bar which showed cpu/ram usage, the time, and acted as a launcher... anyone know what i'm talking about, as i can't remember where i got it from Oct 14 21:43:43 ossostatusbarcpu? Oct 14 21:43:50 _Monkey: osso-statusbar-cpu? Oct 14 21:43:50 <_Monkey> osso-statusbar-cpu is at http://www.maemo-hackers.org/wiki/OssoStatusbarCpu Oct 14 21:43:53 yep Oct 14 21:43:59 that sounds about right :) Oct 14 21:45:41 btw.. found out that minimo works better at iphone.facebook.com than microb Oct 14 22:12:16 * pupnik goes mandrake harvesting Oct 14 22:33:53 hey guys Oct 14 22:34:07 is there some website or app that replaces the beta of internet call invitation Oct 14 22:34:17 I want to make video calls, but I don't know anyone else with an n800 Oct 14 22:34:25 I thought I would be able to video chat with skype Oct 14 22:35:49 it's kind of a retardedly stupid thing to remove from the device Oct 14 22:38:08 anyone? Oct 14 22:38:10 anyone? Oct 14 22:40:14 ? Oct 14 22:40:45 video calling is a 'core app' for a camera-enabled internet tablet imo Oct 14 22:41:04 :* Oct 14 22:41:35 so I take it that means no. Oct 14 22:41:41 so yeah you should be able to use skype or whatever Oct 14 22:41:41 I've got to call people with n800's to use it Oct 14 22:41:53 unique311 knows about this stuff - check the internettablettalk.com forums about it Oct 14 22:42:14 imo you should be able to call whomever Oct 14 22:47:27 alright Oct 14 22:47:42 anyone happen to know a repo where I can get samba or aircrack? Oct 14 22:47:46 'internet call invitation' was kinda tied to the owners of n800 Oct 14 22:48:49 n800 owners could only call other n800 users or (windows) pc users that have received an invitation from n800 owner Oct 14 22:49:14 I have an n800, that's exactly what I want Oct 14 22:49:22 and the pc users couldn't call each other, only n800 users that had sent them invitations Oct 14 22:49:42 I want to be able to talk to my friend in Massachusetts with video, on my N800 without buying her an N800 Oct 14 22:50:40 I'm fine with that. Oct 14 22:50:58 I just want something that does that Oct 14 22:51:02 anything Oct 14 22:51:03 <_Monkey> i heard anything was possible Oct 14 22:51:59 I'm not sure if the initial release of skype did that (voice only?) but as I understand it is planned even if it's not supported right now Oct 14 22:54:31 so no one knows of a pc-to-n800 video chat app at all, unofficial spanish betas included Oct 14 22:55:19 seems that gizmo 4.0 beta can do that Oct 14 22:58:22 really? Oct 14 22:58:26 I have that... Oct 14 22:58:28 lemme see Oct 14 23:02:31 guardiani.us seems to be back up Oct 14 23:06:49 can anyone tell me if its possible to put the flash player back on my n800 after removing it? Oct 14 23:07:41 the easiest would be to reflash the firmware (how did you remove it in the first place? sure you didn't just disable flash in the browser?) Oct 14 23:07:56 id prefer not to have to reflash it (no pun) Oct 14 23:08:27 removed it from app manager Oct 14 23:08:41 ooh, is it listed there? interesting Oct 14 23:08:54 no idea (for now) Oct 14 23:10:06 yeah, i think i disabled it without knowing, so tried to reinstall :-/ Oct 14 23:10:54 i thought it might be a reflash Oct 14 23:11:30 thanks disq Oct 14 23:11:48 off to sleep now Oct 14 23:11:51 good luck :/ night Oct 14 23:12:07 cheers Oct 14 23:22:21 anyone here know how to use aircrack-ptw on an N800 Oct 14 23:22:25 yo n stuff. Oct 14 23:24:11 soe, like.. i think that I have a problem with opera on my n800... Oct 14 23:24:23 downloads aren't working right. Oct 14 23:24:38 are they going backwards at points? Oct 14 23:24:45 yeah. Oct 14 23:24:45 it says, 60% done, then 40% Oct 14 23:24:53 yup Oct 14 23:24:58 and then it'll stall Oct 14 23:24:59 mine does that too, I just got my n800, I don't know how to fix it yet Oct 14 23:25:28 it has kinda put a damper on instaling .deb files. Oct 14 23:26:27 yes Oct 14 23:27:07 where in the n800's file structure are the config-type files for the browser? Oct 14 23:27:25 * esworp wants to try and nuke the parts that handle file associations. Oct 14 23:28:35 seriously though, there is a router at work that we don't know the WEP key or password to, and we can't remove it... I'd really like to find out the WEP key to it. Can someone give me a really short walkthrough of aircrack on an N800 or at least answer a few of my question Oct 14 23:28:37 s Oct 14 23:29:13 There's a ton of stuff about that on Google. Oct 14 23:29:42 I'm looking around, they all don't say things like how to find out my mac address, I don't even know the /dev/ name of wifi Oct 14 23:30:10 I wasn't ever a hardcore linux use Oct 14 23:30:26 X.Org and KDM security hole... Oct 14 23:31:11 X.Org's composite extension has a local privilege escalation. Oct 14 23:32:30 so what you're saying is, I should know what those two things are Oct 14 23:32:35 because I don't Oct 14 23:32:56 KDM can allow a user to login without a password if the machine is configured with auto-login for at least one user when a password is required to shutdown the machine. Oct 14 23:33:16 bobbywaz: No, I'm not. One has nothing to do with the other. I'm just informing people of a security hole that was found. Oct 14 23:33:51 bobbywa, just hard reset the router Oct 14 23:34:00 z* Oct 14 23:34:13 Take it off the network. Oct 14 23:35:06 I can't lose all the port forwards in it... It's the only router for the whole company... and with all the things they have plugged in, it would be much easiser to aircrack it... especially since I am really interested in learning how to do it reguardless. Oct 14 23:36:53 alright, forget aircrack then. how do I find my mac address Oct 14 23:42:13 bobbywaz: of your tablet? Oct 14 23:43:31 nevermind, I got that far Oct 14 23:43:43 now, I believe I need root to use aircrack, so I'm doing that Oct 14 23:44:24 k, you can find it from control panel -> device -> about product Oct 15 00:08:52 bah. Oct 15 00:08:55 ? Oct 15 00:09:30 the download glitch is bumming me out. Oct 15 00:11:06 .deb files are recognized by opera as openable, and downloads dont work properly. Oct 15 00:13:33 didnt start till after i restored after a firmwared update. Oct 15 00:15:11 maybe they changed something Oct 15 00:16:13 where in the file structure would i go a-hunting, you suppose? Oct 15 00:17:05 do you have free space on flash memory? Oct 15 00:17:46 do they open app manager at all? Oct 15 00:20:01 i have space, and 'open' is grayed out. the file doesn't download right, so the manager doesn't open it. Oct 15 00:20:37 the percentage progress goes up and down for a bit, then the xfer stalls. Oct 15 00:22:56 never seen that before - sounds like opera problem Oct 15 00:23:16 use apt-get or wget and local file install Oct 15 00:24:44 i think i'll dl another browser; see if it's the browser, or something else Oct 15 00:27:09 can someone tell me how I can get verbose errors in the app manager? i can't install shh and it doesn't say why Oct 15 00:27:38 there's a log in app mgr Oct 15 00:27:46 !list Oct 15 00:29:37 thanks Oct 15 00:30:03 doh! i can do a local install; the downloads don't complete Oct 15 00:39:31 rm Oct 15 00:39:41 anyone here speak finnish? Oct 15 00:40:07 i'm looking for robin hood's finnish time slot Oct 15 01:01:52 Someone should port this: http://www.pineight.com/tod/ Oct 15 01:02:21 So we can have a way to induce vomitting no matter where you are. Oct 15 01:03:11 Haldo Oct 15 01:04:57 dpryo: Hello! Oct 15 01:05:45 dpryo: What model gps unit were you speaking of before, BU-353 or similar? Oct 15 01:06:09 * JesseT77 has a BU-353 and is trying to see how to access usb gps data from N770 Oct 15 01:07:27 zerojay: what is that? Oct 15 01:08:22 zerojay: what are you referring to on that page? Oct 15 01:08:55 pupnik: It's a psycho version of tetris, makes you sick if you try and play it. Oct 15 01:14:29 Does anyone have an assembler on their nokia? Oct 15 01:14:30 you mean lockjaw? Oct 15 01:15:13 ? Oct 15 01:16:59 re JesseT77 Oct 15 01:18:23 ?? Oct 15 01:18:51 i'm talking to someone else Oct 15 01:18:57 i.e. not you, Deformative Oct 15 01:19:04 Oh. Oct 15 01:19:09 Could you be talking to me? Oct 15 01:19:18 I cannot find an assembler in the repository. Oct 15 01:19:37 only thing i know that assembles is gcc Oct 15 01:19:48 Gcc installation fails. Oct 15 01:23:59 re Oct 15 02:24:11 any ideas why gstreamer / mediaplayer would decide that formally playable videos now have unsupported codex (it reports this ONLY after buffering) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Oct 15 02:59:57 2007