**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Feb 18 02:59:57 2008 Feb 18 03:06:44 excellent, a youtube viewer. Feb 18 03:07:47 johnx: it doesn't work here for some reason Feb 18 03:08:16 so you open osso-xterm, type hnb, hit enter and it says what? Feb 18 03:08:24 well there's uktube Feb 18 03:09:14 the interface for yt-viewer looks perfect. I couldn't imagine anything better. Feb 18 03:09:57 johnx: Error opening terminal: xterm. Feb 18 03:12:16 j0tt: How did you know what class should you modify the remove the border? Feb 18 03:12:23 * to remove Feb 18 03:13:06 well there where just 3 places ,) window, notebook, player ;) Feb 18 03:13:23 jott: Awesome! Feb 18 03:13:49 it annoyed me enough to remove it ;) Feb 18 03:14:15 EruditeHermit, I've never had it try to start its own terminal when run from the command line Feb 18 03:14:31 and I've tried it on many, many Linux systems, basically unmodified Feb 18 03:14:36 hmm Feb 18 03:14:38 weird Feb 18 03:16:05 johnx: I just installed it in my scratchbox and I got error loading /usr/bin/hnb Feb 18 03:16:26 the same error? Feb 18 03:16:31 no Feb 18 03:16:35 its a different error Feb 18 03:16:43 actually...this reminds me of this post: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16763&highlight=xterm Feb 18 03:17:06 maybe, you and that person both have the same problem? Feb 18 03:18:27 tigrux: i still don't really get the buffering stuff with gst.. :/ Feb 18 03:19:26 jott: My neither, it works fine in the desktop. :( Feb 18 03:24:11 tigrux: installing now.. will this do playlists? Feb 18 03:24:21 fysa: No yet. Feb 18 03:24:44 playlists with a shuffle feature would be very nice. Feb 18 03:25:12 fysa: I understand, but that would be like creating a media player. Feb 18 03:25:58 fysa: In that case, haching the maemo media-player should be better. Feb 18 03:26:53 Looping through items in a youtube-stored 'playlist' or 'favorites' -- so you can create a playlists from a desktop Feb 18 03:27:41 * pupnik hacks on gemrb Feb 18 03:27:54 fysa: Fortunatelly, it's written in python and you can modify the source code very easily. Feb 18 03:28:03 precisely. :) Feb 18 03:29:35 fysa: It has a lot of classes but they are mostly clear. Feb 18 03:31:20 only sufficiently empowered users can set a bug to confirmed, on bugs.maemo.org? so really just giving my input to a unconfirmed bug is the only thing I can do to help? Feb 18 03:34:51 can someone with power confirm this bug? https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2952 Feb 18 03:36:03 yt-viewer isnt working for me Feb 18 04:06:16 Wow! conic is very easy to use! Feb 18 04:10:26 Guys, do you think yt-viewer is a good name? Feb 18 04:10:40 Or should I change it? Feb 18 04:11:25 hmm...what else did you have in mind for a name? Feb 18 04:11:53 want me to throw out a couple ideas? Feb 18 04:12:06 Yes! Feb 18 04:12:31 I thought of yt-player, but mine is not a complete player. Feb 18 04:12:37 Python coders, come rescue gemrb :) Feb 18 04:12:47 Usability = Kit | GemRB.GetTableValue(Table, v, 5) Feb 18 04:12:48 TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for |: 'str' and 'int Feb 18 04:12:58 tablet-tube Feb 18 04:12:59 in GUICommon.py Feb 18 04:13:00 And it won't, it is only to listed to music and watch single videos. Feb 18 04:13:49 hmm...maybe yt-browser than? Feb 18 04:13:56 s/than/then/ Feb 18 04:13:56 johnx meant: hmm...maybe yt-browser then? Feb 18 04:14:42 you-viewer? view-tubes? Feb 18 04:15:16 tablet-tuber? (you could have a potato for an icon...) Feb 18 04:15:35 tablet-tuber! Sounds good. Feb 18 04:16:20 if other people don't like the name just tell them to blame me :D Feb 18 04:19:26 i think yt-viewer is clear and short Feb 18 04:20:08 maybe pytube to let ppl know it needs python Feb 18 04:20:09 pupnik: how did you get osso-xterm to *remember* thaty ou turned off the toolbar? Feb 18 04:20:22 (yeah yt-viewer is actually a good name. I just like making up strange names for things...) Feb 18 04:20:41 hehe Feb 18 04:20:52 i like the potato icon idea Feb 18 04:21:14 how about a truck driving through a tube? :) Feb 18 04:21:33 elb: :/ sorry don't know Feb 18 04:21:56 but you did do so? Feb 18 04:22:48 uhm, The internet is not a big truck you can just load stuff on, it's a series of tubes? Feb 18 04:24:07 Fang64: how is that not non-sequitur? Feb 18 04:24:15 dunno Feb 18 04:24:19 popped into my head Feb 18 04:24:33 I see Feb 18 04:24:36 how helpful Feb 18 04:24:48 ah sorry about that, I tend to be a little random Feb 18 04:25:13 elb, it was free association: tablet-tuber -> truck in tube icon -> Senator "Intertubes" reference Feb 18 04:25:44 it made sense to me...but that's probably a bad metric to judge by :D Feb 18 04:26:11 indeed, I free associated it :D Feb 18 04:28:32 hmmm, ctrl-] remains a problem here Feb 18 04:37:12 * elb puts ] on right shift Feb 18 04:37:52 or maybe not Feb 18 04:39:41 * elb mutters about busted keyboard mappings Feb 18 05:17:34 * pupnik stabs python Feb 18 05:17:54 *python dies in pain Feb 18 06:06:58 So nice to see it established that opengl games can be done on N8xx devices. Feb 18 06:07:54 when dukenukem forever works on the 810 I'll buy one Feb 18 06:08:09 Pfft Feb 18 06:08:21 heh Feb 18 06:08:27 Who the heck would want to play Duke Nukem Forever anyway. Feb 18 06:14:03 unless you have some new information, scibot Feb 18 06:14:16 Hmmm? Feb 18 06:14:33 your statement was incorrect Feb 18 06:14:42 Which one? Feb 18 06:14:58 07:05 < scibot> So nice to see it established that opengl games can be done on N8xx devices. Feb 18 06:15:01 http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16502 Feb 18 06:15:34 that's not using opengl :) Feb 18 06:15:50 "This release of Warzone 2100 uses SDL, OpenGL" Feb 18 06:16:28 I mean through software rendering. Feb 18 06:16:50 it does not use opengl Feb 18 06:16:56 where are you pasting that from? Feb 18 06:17:07 Their site. Feb 18 06:17:32 they are using a newer release that uses opengl. we use the original software renderer Feb 18 06:18:33 opengl is completely useless on the tablets Feb 18 06:23:24 * pupnik_ cries at openal Feb 18 06:29:46 Heh Feb 18 06:35:06 solmumaha: http://www.gamedev.net/reference/articles/article2008.asp http://downloads.gamedev.net/features/snippets/OpenAL-2008.zip openal sample code... also note you can set up multiple devices in openalrc (define devices '(alsa esd sdl native)) Feb 18 06:50:11 hey, if there is a source package that builds multiple debian packages, is there a way to only build one module of it? Feb 18 06:53:45 not sure, try removing one from debian/files Feb 18 06:56:56 pupnik_: what do you mean debian/files? Feb 18 06:57:00 which file Feb 18 06:57:19 look in package source directory Feb 18 06:57:38 there should be a "debian" directory containing a file called "files" Feb 18 06:57:42 or maybe not Feb 18 06:57:57 there isn't a file called files Feb 18 06:57:58 lol Feb 18 06:58:05 ok Feb 18 06:58:09 there are files called abiword-plugins.files Feb 18 06:58:13 and other such files like that Feb 18 06:58:56 maybe you can remove sections from the debian/control file Feb 18 06:59:01 (backup first) Feb 18 07:00:24 Hi Feb 18 07:00:44 does anybody know where can I find source package for /etc/operator_settings? Feb 18 07:02:13 I've installed SDK but no operator-wizard package there( Feb 18 07:03:03 is that piece of proprietary software? Feb 18 07:03:17 * scibot tries to find those demo's (scene) of really nice 3d environments on ridiculously old hardware. Feb 18 07:03:47 vitja, that's very possible Feb 18 07:04:27 on my n800 apt-cache policy lists no repository for the package that owns that file (operator-wizard-settings) Feb 18 07:04:50 do u have operator_settings installed? Feb 18 07:05:03 yes Feb 18 07:05:15 in sdk or tablet? Feb 18 07:05:16 want me to repack it and send it your way? Feb 18 07:05:18 on tablet Feb 18 07:05:29 hmm.. I mean SDK Feb 18 07:05:46 yeah, I don't think it's available anywhere except the tablet flash image Feb 18 07:06:03 I want to use it for my project, that contains very userful info on many GSM providers Feb 18 07:06:21 but I don't known its licenseI( Feb 18 07:06:51 heh. if it's useful, that's a pretty good indication that Nokia hasn't released it under the GPL or similar... Feb 18 07:07:21 /scratchbox/tools/bin/chown: `messagebus:messagebus': invalid user what does that mean? Feb 18 07:08:18 EruditeHermit, that messagebus user/group does not exist? Feb 18 07:09:08 why am I getting it when I am trying to install the package gconf2 Feb 18 07:10:04 because it's postinst script wants to set the ownership of something to messagebus user/group but those don't exist in scratchbox? Feb 18 07:10:08 maybe? Feb 18 07:10:37 arg Feb 18 07:10:42 this scratchbox is so frustrating Feb 18 07:10:53 i386 stuff is simpler Feb 18 07:10:54 lol Feb 18 07:11:15 cross compiling is usually complicated Feb 18 07:11:32 EruditeHermit, at least I have the user and group though Feb 18 07:11:42 so maybe I was wrong Feb 18 07:12:21 jku: how do you check? Feb 18 07:12:32 jku: the command group isn't there Feb 18 07:12:36 Amiga AGA - http://demoscene.tv/page.php?id=513&lang=uk&vsmaction=view_prod&id_prod=6070 Feb 18 07:12:44 err groups Feb 18 07:13:25 EruditeHermit, you're on the device? Feb 18 07:13:56 /etc/passwd will show that user exists Feb 18 07:14:25 johnx, I guess I still can use it as it's just info Feb 18 07:15:25 hmm Feb 18 07:15:30 my scratchbox doesn't have it Feb 18 07:15:33 the device does Feb 18 07:15:44 vitja, a collection of non-copyrightable data can still be under copyright... Feb 18 07:15:57 Anyway I'd be happy enough to get pygame working at 400x240. Feb 18 07:15:59 vitja, well, if's probably copyrighted so it would depend on the fair use laws on your country Feb 18 07:17:03 yt-viewer is cool btw but slow Feb 18 07:17:05 I paid for my n800, did I paid for this one file too? Feb 18 07:18:02 have to go now, thanks Feb 18 07:18:03 bye Feb 18 07:18:53 does anyones scratchbox have messagebus:messagebus group and user? Feb 18 07:19:51 EruditeHermit, yes Feb 18 07:24:19 pupnik you were mentionning espeak here http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2007-08-12.log.html Feb 18 07:24:27 did you port it to maemo already ? Feb 18 07:24:41 If so, could you please push it in extras ? :-) Feb 18 07:25:47 jku: how come my scratchbox doesn't have it? Feb 18 07:39:05 hmm Feb 18 07:39:32 Is there something with dbus that didn't make it create the messagebus:messagebus user and group when I installed scratchbox? Feb 18 07:39:46 melmoth: i just used flite instead Feb 18 07:40:00 grumble Feb 18 07:40:06 i need french tts Feb 18 07:41:12 what do you guys use the tts for? Feb 18 07:41:23 which programs does it work with? Feb 18 07:41:32 or is it just stdin Feb 18 07:41:41 maemomapepr is supposed to use it, but i did not try yet Feb 18 07:42:04 i want a vocal gps navigation stuff, that helps you roam the paris street with velib Feb 18 07:42:21 those city bike you can rent for 1 euro per 30mn Feb 18 07:43:10 i want something you dont have to read a screen to use with, because you need to concentrate on the road and hurd of cursing parisian automobilists Feb 18 07:57:29 hrm, isn't there a wireless-tools package for chinook? Feb 18 08:01:28 yes, look on gronmayer.com/it Feb 18 08:01:37 ta Feb 18 08:04:22 hi room. Feb 18 08:04:47 anyone can tell me how to check the online or offline status? Feb 18 08:04:59 I need this in my own app Feb 18 08:05:19 sleetdrop: conic is your google term Feb 18 08:05:27 or just call ifconfig Feb 18 08:06:30 the device use different connection methods Feb 18 08:06:49 so I can't decide with name to use in ifconfig Feb 18 08:06:59 and my app is written in C Feb 18 08:07:53 then dbus / conic (libconic) Feb 18 08:08:05 re Feb 18 08:08:43 I did not find the conic Feb 18 08:08:52 can you give the the project's page? Feb 18 08:09:02 thanks a lot Feb 18 08:09:50 I get it Feb 18 08:09:51 http://maemo.org/api_refs/4.0/libconic/index.html Feb 18 08:11:48 I am a beginner, there is no example code. :( Feb 18 08:12:15 BTW, thanks for pupnik_'s help Feb 18 08:15:05 sleetdrop: i don't know how to use it, i just know that's a possible solution Feb 18 08:15:26 :) Feb 18 08:15:59 that's okay, I'll read the doc later. Feb 18 08:17:49 <|tbb|> morning_all Feb 18 08:18:11 pupnik_, ya around? Feb 18 08:18:23 yes Feb 18 08:18:33 welcome back Feb 18 08:19:23 no luck with mtpaint. Feb 18 08:19:38 mtpaint 3.0? Feb 18 08:19:41 or the older one Feb 18 08:19:41 i cant figure it out. Feb 18 08:19:51 3.2 Feb 18 08:19:53 0 Feb 18 08:20:01 ok. it's really different looking now Feb 18 08:21:09 Yeah you need to study gtk and learn about callbacks and stuff Feb 18 08:22:08 All i've done is the little changes for the pcsx gtk frontend Feb 18 08:22:27 i'm trying to avoid all that Feb 18 08:22:38 I'm not going to give up on it yet. Feb 18 08:24:27 I am going to take a break from it Feb 18 08:31:23 sleetdrop, http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/4-x/maemo_connectivity_guide.html#LibConIC Feb 18 08:42:57 thanks jku Feb 18 08:45:27 i apologize in advance for such a pedestrian query, but I'm considering booting off a 16gb sd card and I was wondering if anyone had an opinion on partition sizes. I am considering a 13gb fat / 3 gb rootfs split. But I'm also wondering about just allocating most of it to rootfs. TIA for any opinions. Feb 18 08:46:27 I guess it depends on if you ever want to use the card with a windows desktop or not Feb 18 08:47:09 I run Linux on the desktops so I made one nice big partition, but then, I only have a 2GB card Feb 18 08:48:32 well, on my 770 I found that transferring files over USB was painfully slow anyway. Not sure if its the same on N800 yet, but if I can transfer wirelessly then the USB-drive compatibility seems less worthwhile Feb 18 08:49:03 770 with stock kernel has very slow write speed to mmc Feb 18 08:49:12 hmm...USB transfers on my N800 seem somewhat faster than scp transfers over WPA wifi Feb 18 08:49:29 never did a scientific test though Feb 18 08:50:05 i seem to recall something like 230kB/s Feb 18 08:50:18 ok, thanks john for that insight. Feb 18 08:50:51 I think my SD card is the limiting factor for USB transfers Feb 18 08:51:00 and pupnik too. are you ArnimS from ITT? Feb 18 08:51:08 * |tbb| awaitings johnx new theme today Feb 18 08:51:19 heh...no theme from me :P Feb 18 08:51:27 will prolly go to bed soon even Feb 18 08:56:21 Morning, all Feb 18 09:00:07 good morning Feb 18 09:00:41 may i ask how can i get libxmlsec1 onto chinook scratchbox ? Feb 18 09:01:46 johnx: What are the numbers? I get around 600-700 kB/s with my crappy wlan dongle and around 800 kB/s with my wifes iMac (which stung a bit). Feb 18 09:02:41 To a SDHC class 6 card Feb 18 09:11:34 icepolarpolar, get debian source, build and install oackage? Feb 18 09:17:40 hi jku thanks for helping me again .. I am doing that now .. Feb 18 09:18:18 icepolarpolar, might hit some problems on the way, but that's the normal procedure Feb 18 09:43:53 jku: i have installed xmlsec but when i run the 'make check' instead of true or fail, most of my checks return 'skip' .. do you think it is normal ? Feb 18 09:44:12 icepolarpolar, no idea Feb 18 09:44:32 icepolarpolar, I suggest you just try to build the debian package; Feb 18 09:44:46 dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -us Feb 18 09:48:17 ok thanks i will try that Feb 18 09:48:24 :) Feb 18 09:58:21 jott: lacking any other options, I included your libSDL with dosbox distribution. It only installs on N810 though. If you could mention the issue on maemo-developers list that would be appreciated Feb 18 09:58:45 Ahah somebody already ported espeak:http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:Onion/Mapper Feb 18 09:58:53 Onion, whoever you are: thanks :) Feb 18 10:02:50 melmoth, wow, does that Mapper work? Feb 18 10:04:52 oh, not actually for mapping other things than POI at the moment, I guess Feb 18 10:04:53 i dont know, i did not tested it Feb 18 10:05:02 just tested the espeak wav generation. it works Feb 18 10:05:03 Hi Feb 18 10:05:22 and the gpx upload is not automatic yet :( Feb 18 10:05:36 well, nice to see development anyway Feb 18 10:06:18 I'm just amazed how fast openstreetmap grows, even though the process of mapping is not always that easy Feb 18 10:11:17 pupnik: an optimized libSDL is emerging? Feb 18 10:13:22 no just one hack to fix N810 keyboard FN key Feb 18 10:18:46 hi guys Feb 18 10:18:52 please tell me 1 Feb 18 10:19:15 the os 2008 is better than os2007? Feb 18 10:20:19 ???? Feb 18 10:23:26 whois iDS Feb 18 10:25:05 ? Feb 18 10:25:12 can u reply me? Feb 18 10:25:45 iDS: i don't know. the forums at internettablettalk.com will have more information about user experiences with upgrading from OS2007 to OS2008 Feb 18 10:26:40 i know there but wanted ur opinions too Feb 18 10:27:00 2008 is a bigger number than 2007, so it must be better Feb 18 10:27:14 2007 is soo last year Feb 18 10:28:10 n800 can be run on os2008 ?? yes? but without any problem? Feb 18 10:30:55 good morning Feb 18 10:31:56 ??????/ Feb 18 10:32:08 reply please guys Feb 18 10:33:48 so I've heard Feb 18 10:34:07 no first hand experience though Feb 18 10:35:21 oh Feb 18 10:35:27 battery operating times for n800? Feb 18 10:37:01 guys come on Feb 18 10:39:27 iDS, what do you want? OS2008 is the officially supported OS for N800, so yes it works. Feb 18 10:40:11 battery operating time is variable that greatly depends on what you do Feb 18 10:41:50 but any official news for battery operating times in n800? Feb 18 10:41:57 i want to buy n800 soon Feb 18 10:42:19 and don't know the battery operating times yet Feb 18 10:42:29 but n810 is clear Feb 18 10:42:36 so i am confused :S Feb 18 10:42:50 i need ur help and experience Feb 18 10:43:46 :'''( Feb 18 10:43:55 from 2-3 hours watching videos to 10+ days if the tablet is idle Feb 18 10:44:42 what about audio on n800? Feb 18 10:45:48 ~4+ hours if you use mp3 Feb 18 10:46:26 oh n810 is longer :( Feb 18 10:47:09 n810 and n800 use the same batteries, same CPUs and most of the hardware Feb 18 10:47:23 except for the display, which is a bit smaller on n810 Feb 18 10:47:50 so even if n810 lives longer, it's not hours longer, it's minutes Feb 18 10:48:27 oh ok tnx :D Feb 18 10:49:21 <|tbb|> tony: its not the same battery Feb 18 10:49:35 <|tbb|> n770 and n800 uses same battery Feb 18 10:52:43 |tbb|: ah, right. Feb 18 10:56:19 good morning Feb 18 10:59:24 heya Feb 18 10:59:39 damn... ppl @ truecrypt really screwed up! Feb 18 11:00:13 no text version without X installed... no command line switches to create a container... Feb 18 11:00:17 too bad.. Feb 18 11:37:42 in a Gtk TreeView, when a user is selecting a row, I'd like to tell which column was clicked on, but I can't find anything in the docs about how to do this. Any thoughts? Feb 18 11:40:40 tried row-activated signal? Feb 18 11:41:00 or cursor-changed Feb 18 11:44:38 <|tbb|> hmmh, mamo-launcher eats constantly 5% from cpu sometimes more, whats the problem? Feb 18 11:48:22 there's no way to set proxy on this os2008 microb? Feb 18 11:49:12 you can set proxy from network properties Feb 18 11:49:12 systemwide Feb 18 11:50:19 cool. anyone else btw experiences instability with the bluetooth? seems it doesn't detect if phone disconnects Feb 18 11:51:12 tontsa: no... never... which phone? Feb 18 11:51:29 nokia e70 Feb 18 11:51:46 never heard about any trouble... Feb 18 11:51:50 :( Feb 18 11:51:52 can't find that network properties Feb 18 11:52:27 is where you configure netowork parameters... IP address... and so on... Feb 18 11:53:06 i don't have anything like that.. only properties are some idle times Feb 18 11:53:35 solmumaha: great - cursor-changed is just what I was after. Thanks a lot. Feb 18 11:53:38 the connection is adhoc wlan and it's using dhcp i think Feb 18 11:54:06 yes... you have to go to connecction properties.. Feb 18 11:55:12 i have connectivity settings.. there you have general and idle times. then connections button where you can edit the defined connections.. but even there the only choices are bluetooth, packet data or wlan Feb 18 11:56:27 ok... start from scratch... ;) Feb 18 11:56:38 click on the network icon on the top bar... Feb 18 11:57:00 you have a network settings command... Feb 18 11:57:22 i have select connection and connectivity settings Feb 18 11:57:38 yep... connectivity settings... sorry... Feb 18 11:57:50 there i have that general tab and idle times Feb 18 11:57:55 nothing with proxys though Feb 18 11:58:03 there is a "connection" button... Feb 18 11:58:13 yes Feb 18 11:58:19 click on it... and the select the connection you wish to change settings for... Feb 18 11:58:48 aaargh yes. i'm blind. there's next button there Feb 18 11:58:59 let's see if this works with this adhoc one though Feb 18 11:59:18 proxy settings are under the advanced settings... Feb 18 11:59:59 will be a bitch though.. the hotspot changes it's name everytime you start it :) Feb 18 12:00:19 ?! Feb 18 12:00:37 wich hotspot can do such a dumb move?! Feb 18 12:00:41 it's "Joiku Spot" for S60 3rd edition phones Feb 18 12:00:54 trying that so i could use internet somewhat reliably from n810 Feb 18 12:01:17 why not using BT? Feb 18 12:01:43 even if slower it won't require changing proxy evere 5 minutes... Feb 18 12:01:44 cause it keeps disconnecting every like 2-3 minutes, then you have to turn off bluetooth off and connect again Feb 18 12:01:48 driving me nuts Feb 18 12:02:05 tried upgrading firmwares? Feb 18 12:02:12 both on the phone and N810? Feb 18 12:02:13 have latest on both Feb 18 12:02:42 that's very very strange... Feb 18 12:03:39 tell me about it.. when that happens you can't disconnect the bluetooth dialup connection Feb 18 12:03:42 atleast from the gui Feb 18 12:03:47 you have to turn off the bt Feb 18 12:05:33 that joikuspot works well though. now just need wrapper for openssh that will issue CONNECT thru it's proxy Feb 18 12:06:08 hope that joikuspot final version comes out soon.. now it's totally unsecured wlan hotspot, anyone can connect and whore my phone :) Feb 18 12:08:16 i also tried to use usb 3g/gprs/edge modem Feb 18 12:08:32 but even with powered usb-hub the host-mode of n810 doesn't seem to detect the card Feb 18 12:29:04 seems there's no l2ping packages in any repo for chinook Feb 18 12:29:10 packaged* Feb 18 12:54:51 hello Feb 18 12:55:12 there is no xchat for os2008? only for 2007? Feb 18 12:55:16 os2007 Feb 18 12:58:43 there's atleast beta version Feb 18 12:59:19 pidgin work ok as irc client Feb 18 12:59:27 *works Feb 18 13:03:51 LoCusF, with specific values of "works" Feb 18 13:04:15 I think pidgin is possibly the worst IRC client I've ever tried Feb 18 13:04:49 LL000: http://zeus.rm-fr.net/~skyhusker/xchat-chinook-betas/ Feb 18 13:06:09 Pidgin is horrible, but not as bad as some others. Feb 18 13:07:05 cgi:irc should be ok :) Feb 18 13:07:15 <|tbb|> how can i access smb-shares of my desktop (which displayed nice on osso-filebrowser) from commandline (osso-xterm) Feb 18 13:07:53 |tbb| i guess you need to install some samba client packages Feb 18 13:09:34 thanx tak Feb 18 13:12:03 tobmaster: http://mibbit.com is pretty nice Feb 18 13:12:11 s/tobmaster/tontsa/ Feb 18 13:12:12 Tak meant: tontsa: http://mibbit.com is pretty nice Feb 18 13:14:41 So let's get a party going (let's get a party going) Feb 18 13:14:42 Now it's time to party and we'll party hard (party hard) Feb 18 13:14:45 why!? Feb 18 13:14:49 sorry Feb 18 13:19:57 jku: well I like it Feb 18 13:20:13 jku: its the only one that supports scandinavian characters Feb 18 13:20:31 HAI Feb 18 13:21:55 CAN I HAS SCRATCHBOX? Feb 18 13:22:04 12/F/CALI, U? Feb 18 13:22:25 MOARRRRRRR Feb 18 13:22:47 over and out Feb 18 13:22:48 xxx Feb 18 13:23:00 that was interesting :) Feb 18 13:27:49 lol Feb 18 13:29:29 hmm, xchat supports utf... Feb 18 13:32:07 what's surprising about that? Feb 18 13:32:43 does mplayer support x264 and aac? Feb 18 13:34:29 I don't think that there is enough kick to do x264 Feb 18 13:53:29 any rotate screen application? Feb 18 13:56:59 LL000: there's an interesting video on planet maemo Feb 18 13:57:35 felipec: can xserver-omap do rotation now? ooOOO Feb 18 13:58:32 hi there Feb 18 13:59:26 robtaylor: I guess so: http://labs.vivi.eng.br/blog/?p=39 Feb 18 14:00:30 hey, would somebody know how to reduce the amount of padding between toolitems in GtkToolbar? By default the icons take nearly twice the size they need Feb 18 14:00:52 *twice the space Feb 18 14:05:14 it's mamona Feb 18 14:05:29 it's not on os2008 Feb 18 14:05:35 what is mamona? Feb 18 14:05:49 an os with e16? Feb 18 14:06:05 LL000: you could build a new xomap package with the patches applied Feb 18 14:06:08 vivijim, ^^ Feb 18 14:06:16 magicrobotmonkey: http://dev.openbossa.org/trac/mamona Feb 18 14:06:20 LL000: and make up something to poke xrandr Feb 18 14:06:21