**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Dec 26 02:59:57 2008 Dec 26 07:43:37 GAN800: pong Dec 26 08:34:22 Santa Kills 6! Dec 26 08:38:18 definately puts a new spin on wierd al's "the night santa went crazy" Dec 26 09:02:17 timeless: hm? Dec 26 09:09:22 morning qwerty12 Dec 26 09:09:28 hi Stskeeps Dec 26 09:09:41 Trying out the webkit engine here :) Dec 26 09:10:15 hehe, how is it? Dec 26 09:10:32 No idea, I haven't installed it yet :D Dec 26 09:10:35 ah :> Dec 26 09:11:38 Didn't know that there was an engine-chooser program, I always assumed it was done through the browser hence the hidden option under the engine option in the mozilla config and in gconf. Dec 26 09:11:53 curious, but interesting Dec 26 09:12:11 * Stskeeps wouldn't mind a webkit with browserui Dec 26 09:19:16 especially after seeing how midori performs Dec 26 09:19:59 gmrng all Dec 26 09:20:23 morn RST38h Dec 26 09:20:33 libicu size is killing me :(, the size of that is bigger than the rest of the debs put together Dec 26 09:20:35 morning RST38h Dec 26 09:22:15 yeah, looks a bit nasty Dec 26 09:22:28 qwerty: That is where all the porn is! Dec 26 09:22:39 lol Dec 26 09:23:08 It's the libicudata file, maybe I can get lucky if I replace it with one of my own compiled ones Dec 26 09:23:40 ~curse nautilus for removing the shortcut to my sbox's ~ Dec 26 09:23:40 May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, nautilus for removing the shortcut to my sbox's ~ ! Dec 26 09:24:15 unicode is big by definition :/ Dec 26 09:24:46 Even more of a shame that I don't really need it :/ Dec 26 09:25:05 * RST38h wonders who needs unicode Dec 26 09:25:08 you prolly do when browsing, .. at least some of it Dec 26 09:25:12 Japanese maybe Dec 26 09:25:23 RST38h: i do i do! i want nifty chars Dec 26 09:25:35 While the Japanese language is a nice one, I don't actually go on any Japanese sites Dec 26 09:25:39 Sts: The part I need nicely fits into the upper half of the ASCII table Dec 26 09:25:42 RST38h: there's a lot of non-latin chars out there Dec 26 09:26:07 aquatix: As far as I am concerned, there is exactly 33 non-latin chars and the rest can burn in hell =) Dec 26 09:26:15 cyrillic, the ones hindi is transcribed in and such Dec 26 09:26:15 hehe. Dec 26 09:26:21 RST38h: ghehe Dec 26 09:26:35 * aquatix likes the look of foreign scripts Dec 26 09:28:12 CDBS. We meet again. Dec 26 09:28:30 maemo really doesnt have cdbs? Dec 26 09:28:36 i think fremantle has it though Dec 26 09:28:46 It does, I just hate debian/rules files that use it :P Dec 26 09:29:27 I'm probably a dumbshit but ironically, it takes me longer to figure out what to do rather than saving me time compared with a "normal" debian/rules. Dec 26 09:29:46 And all I want to do is add some CPPFLAGS Dec 26 09:53:05 quite a beautiful day today Dec 26 09:53:36 depends Dec 26 09:53:49 well, it is here ;) Dec 26 09:55:31 cos it's friday and one doesn't have to wander to work? :> Dec 26 09:57:13 Sigh. Remind me not to port anything ever again. Dec 26 09:57:26 Stskeeps: also helps ;) Dec 26 09:57:51 Who files bugs against a port, and not the upstream? Dec 26 09:58:25 derf: An idiot Dec 26 09:58:35 which nicely covers about 90% of humanity Dec 26 09:59:11 "Your program should do X." Does upstream do X? No. Dec 26 10:01:55 * RST38h is getting daily emails from some guy asking "When is the next version will be release? You should add SNES emulation to the next version!" Dec 26 10:02:12 Nice. Dec 26 10:02:18 Not sure if the guy is completely sane though. Dec 26 10:06:07 RST38h: what app is that? Dec 26 10:08:10 The webkit engine is nice, but as per usual, browserd fucks up Dec 26 10:08:23 :) Dec 26 10:25:57 aquatix: iNES Dec 26 10:26:23 ~burn browserd for being "a design decision" Dec 26 10:26:24 * infobot pours gasoline all over browserd for being "a design decision", ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze Dec 26 10:27:49 RST38h: aight Dec 26 11:02:42 qwerty12: webkit's stable? Dec 26 11:03:25 (and does H-I-M work?) Dec 26 11:03:29 Stskeeps, yeah, when I loaded a page with lots of images, I didn't get any crashes compared to loading the page with microb Dec 26 11:03:39 Stskeeps, let me check him Dec 26 11:05:14 hrm, now my browser's gone back to microb Dec 26 11:09:38 Stskeeps, h-i-m works Dec 26 11:10:32 not as stable as I thought, think browserd crashes sometimes Dec 26 11:10:52 k Dec 26 11:11:29 loads pages much faster and browserd is a POS under MicroB anyway so no complaints here Dec 26 11:12:53 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/25/AR2008122500931.html Dec 26 11:13:09 (tomorrow's dailyrotten candidate, easily) Dec 26 11:14:10 heh heh Dec 26 11:15:55 until the taliban starts producing viagra off license.. Dec 26 11:15:56 :P Dec 26 11:25:14 wow, mypaint looks impressive Dec 26 11:33:41 whee, that's me done with milkytracker Dec 26 11:55:44 mypaint felt really clunky Dec 26 12:23:05 it's a touch too slow for me Dec 26 12:23:17 sketching needs to be right-brain intuitive Dec 26 12:23:37 anything that forces you into left-brain mode isn't so good Dec 26 12:23:46 (ignoring for a moment how valid that metaphor really is) Dec 26 12:24:12 'cause the interface is in python :P Dec 26 12:28:48 the part that matters (sketching) is not Dec 26 13:31:07 * lcuk punches qwerty12_N800 in the face whilst wearing comically large boxing gloves Dec 26 13:31:36 That's one way of saying hi :) Dec 26 13:31:50 of course it is :) Dec 26 13:31:57 hehe Dec 26 13:32:09 feeling better today? Dec 26 13:32:56 Nope, still as shitty as ever but I've gotten used to it :) Dec 26 13:35:21 qwerty12_N800, doctors Dec 26 13:35:51 would some little sausages wrapped in bacon make you feel better? Dec 26 13:36:06 oh hang on, theres only a few left Dec 26 13:36:11 lcuk, yeah, you're right but my GP's a prick Dec 26 13:36:13 lol Dec 26 13:37:14 ooops, sorry all gone now Dec 26 13:37:27 qwerty12_N800, you should see about a new doctor then Dec 26 13:37:54 lcuk, yeah, we're trying to change :) Dec 26 13:38:15 * qwerty12_N800 wonders if we've still got any ENO Dec 26 13:38:26 im surei f you chop your leg off and walk into a different clinic they would see you Dec 26 13:38:37 (after you sat waiting for 3 hours bleeding out) Dec 26 13:38:42 foooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood Dec 26 13:38:51 lol Dec 26 13:39:05 oh hi pupnik, errrr there ummmmm was food, but ummm i eated it :$ Dec 26 13:39:37 * lcuk was like cookie monster but with bacon sausage nibbles :$ Dec 26 13:40:08 might explain my bad guts as well, but what can i do, they were smelling so nice Dec 26 13:40:34 infobot, get the food from lcuk's stomach and give it to pupnik Dec 26 13:40:35 * infobot fetches the food from lcuk's stomach and give it to pupnik Dec 26 13:40:55 reading that comment almost did the trick :D thanks qwerty Dec 26 13:41:09 hehe :D Dec 26 13:41:26 its like a random 3d jigsaw puzzle Dec 26 13:43:06 thanks, i just realized that's why i feel weak and sick - no food eaten Dec 26 13:43:28 "Wizard needs food, badly." Dec 26 13:45:42 * You are in a kitchen Dec 26 13:45:42 > look Dec 26 13:45:42 * there are many appetizing nibbles Dec 26 13:45:42 > eat nibbles Dec 26 13:45:42 * You eat all the nibbles Dec 26 13:45:43 * There is an uneasy feeling in your stomach Dec 26 13:47:15 Oh god, I can't play those games. Games ran in ScummVM are cool but I loaded up GFrotz on some text game and I used it as a replacement for sleeping pills :p Dec 26 13:47:54 you kids and your fancy 3d interactive worlds, spoilt i tell you Dec 26 13:49:13 aww, wasn't the technology good enough in the 50's :P Dec 26 13:49:14 in my day we had to write the interpreter, dream up the program and implement it ourselves hoping the tape would not corrupt Dec 26 14:56:21 Has anyone had any issues with unresolved references whilst creating shared libraries in maemo 4.2.1 SDK? Dec 26 16:30:24 Grrr, these symbols should be resolved at runtime .. Why is the linker complaining >_< Dec 26 17:21:47 Think I've figured it out! :) Dec 26 18:17:57 are here the people of the pys60-project from garage.maemo.org? I know thats a metaquestion, but my notice could be off-topic.. Dec 26 18:19:14 this channel is quiet enough that I doubt it's too fussy about what people talk about Dec 26 18:19:24 as long as it's vaguely relevant, you're fine :) Dec 26 18:20:14 Except for people talking about talking about off-topic stuff. That we can't abide by. :P Dec 26 18:24:13 ;) so i just wanted to update my n95 with the new sis-packages from garage-maemo but my mobilephone just want to install the programm and not to update it ... i think it has some thing todo with the programm-names in these *.sis-files ... It should be called 'Python for S60' and not 'Python runtime' in the Python_1.9.0_3rdEd.sis-file... Dec 26 18:24:38 I hope the dev's from the garage-project will read this.. Dec 26 18:25:51 If you're sure that they contain the same files, you could probably use sisware to give it the same id and resign... Dec 26 18:27:26 can't the dev's do that.. i'm currently working on my projects too and fighting with some problems at home (-.-')... Dec 26 18:29:06 its not a big problem with the sis-files and the project is very active on garage... i think they will (and must solve) that problem in the future... Dec 26 18:29:21 Why don't you start by emailing them? Dec 26 18:29:42 Random shotgun IRC spam usually isn't a very effective way to get things fixed. Dec 26 18:30:50 i just wanted to write in the projects forum, but they disabled it... but thats not a bad idea... I will send them a email in the next time ;) Dec 26 18:31:44 * thopiekar1 is now going to install win-xp on his "tv-recording"-pc....... Dec 26 18:35:18 GAN800: pong? Dec 26 18:38:29 hello, Stskeeps Dec 26 18:38:52 evening b-man Dec 26 18:38:55 how's progress? Dec 26 18:38:56 brb tea Dec 26 18:39:29 Stskeeps, I have a question that I need you to answer. :P Dec 26 18:39:50 GAN800: alright, shoot either here or in msg i guess :P Dec 26 18:40:08 i'm stuck on a nother little problem, with cfdisk and sfdisk, the installer refuses to launch them properly Dec 26 18:40:55 ah Dec 26 18:41:06 define refuse? Dec 26 18:42:01 Give me fives minutes. :P Dec 26 18:42:09 k Dec 26 18:42:54 the installer runs them, but it does nothing, it simply runs and exits and goes on with the installer. Dec 26 18:43:29 b-man: hm. did you make it run as root? Dec 26 18:43:40 yes. :p Dec 26 18:44:04 cfdisk /dev/whatever? :P Dec 26 18:44:18 yes... Dec 26 18:44:49 hmm. Dec 26 18:44:53 any output? Dec 26 18:45:02 insert a 'read foo' after running it Dec 26 18:45:31 ok, i'll try that, Dec 26 18:46:08 just to insert a pause Dec 26 18:47:30 *b-man goes and backs up all of his data and runs the installer* Dec 26 18:49:00 hehe, /me :P Dec 26 18:56:01 hm... watching resident evil degeneration Dec 26 18:56:18 wonder how long it takes to render high quality cgi like this Dec 26 18:59:28 Macer: is I/O really crap on the server? Dec 26 18:59:35 i get like 2mb/s on I/O :P Dec 26 18:59:42 and untarring takes ages Dec 26 19:00:09 (i actually started using it now :P) Dec 26 19:00:19 is it swapping heavily or something? Dec 26 19:03:52 haha Dec 26 19:03:59 well... it's running on esxi Dec 26 19:04:07 i can try to give it more resources in a bit Dec 26 19:04:26 my zimbra server runs on the same box Dec 26 19:04:26 well, you can reduce ram if that helps :P Dec 26 19:04:35 heh Dec 26 19:04:38 it isnt swapping internally so Dec 26 19:04:54 well... the box has 2G ... i gave you guys 768 Dec 26 19:05:04 weird.. i wonder what causes it then Dec 26 19:05:12 hm Dec 26 19:05:32 does distcc work between fbsd and linux? Dec 26 19:05:46 that sounds doubtful :) Dec 26 19:05:49 not sure Dec 26 19:05:51 hmmh Dec 26 19:05:59 i'm pretty sure it should be possible Dec 26 19:06:13 i have a dual dual core 8TB fileserver Dec 26 19:06:48 Stskeeps - it might actually take a while for esx to give you all the resources Dec 26 19:07:11 i can work on limiting my zimbra server a bit.. it runs on the same box in centos Dec 26 19:07:23 alright, it's probably just swapped out extremely from inactivity :P Dec 26 19:07:32 i'm sure it is Dec 26 19:07:37 just give it a few minutes Dec 26 19:07:41 k Dec 26 19:07:43 esx kind of shoves things in the background Dec 26 19:07:50 did you get the sdk Dec 26 19:07:52 ? Dec 26 19:08:01 i'm guessing yes since you're trying to use it to build things Dec 26 19:08:05 yeah, it's installed now :P Dec 26 19:08:09 ah Dec 26 19:08:20 i'll work on giving it more in a little while Dec 26 19:08:33 k Dec 26 19:08:48 i'll lower the slices on the zimbra server too.. there's not too many users on it Dec 26 19:08:51 but java is a hog :) Dec 26 19:08:55 HOG! Dec 26 19:09:38 and if worse comes to worst... the network should work fast enough.... i'll try giving you a spot on my fs Dec 26 19:10:11 or even just give you a dedicated box Dec 26 19:10:43 but i'm guess that it's just swapped out Dec 26 19:12:24 included in linux kernel 2.6.28: The Phone Network protocol (PhoNet) is a packet-oriented communication protocol developped by Nokia for use with its cellular modems for both IPC and RPC. With the Linux Phonet socket family, Linux host processes can receive and send messages from/to the modem, or any other external device attached to the modem; the modem takes care of routing. Phonet packets can be exchanged through various hardware connections depending on Dec 26 19:13:20 m Dec 26 19:13:23 uhm Dec 26 19:14:47 dystopia: so? Dec 26 19:19:40 /dev/mmcbk0p3: no such file or directory - WHAT?!?!? Dec 26 19:19:55 blk Dec 26 19:20:11 woops ;p Dec 26 19:25:17 my mmcblk0p3 and 0p2 devices are missing..... ?????? Dec 26 19:26:16 if you dont have the partitions? :P remember reloading partition tables Dec 26 19:27:49 oh - re-loading partition tables failed with sfdisk, maybe that's the problem. :P Dec 26 19:30:25 I'm amazed at how well built my n800 is Dec 26 19:30:46 I had grabbed the case by the wrong end, and propelled it towards my door at a speed that would be enough to shatter my ipod touch, and theres no damage that I can actually see Dec 26 19:32:12 oww Dec 26 19:37:22 b-man: make sure the partitions are unmounted Dec 26 19:38:39 they are. Dec 26 19:38:51 before partitioning? Dec 26 19:39:00 yes Dec 26 19:41:37 it looks like i have yet another problem; "cfdisk: invalid option; -u" i used cfdisk -uM $MERDEV... how can i fix this? Dec 26 19:41:51 dont use u? :P Dec 26 19:41:55 sure its a cfdisk command? Dec 26 19:41:59 and not a sfdisk one? Dec 26 19:41:59 sfdisk uses -u... Dec 26 19:42:11 ... ok. so i just went and picked up my n810! first day! :) i'm super excited but i seem to have hit a snag... i can't seem to get it to pair with my keyboard or earpiece. Dec 26 19:42:39 anyone know what's going on? Dec 26 19:53:01 sheesh... nokia pc suite doesn't support importing google's export csv format Dec 26 19:53:31 man, I don't understand why people work so hard on doing things WRONG. there are open standards, for crying out loud, please support them! Dec 26 19:53:55 [14:42:05] ... ok. so i just went and picked up my n810! first day! :) i'm super excited but i seem to have hit a snag... i can't seem to get it to pair with my keyboard or earpiece. -- Do you know the codes to the ear thing? Dec 26 19:54:01 and the brand of the keyboard Dec 26 19:55:49 http://lwn.net/Articles/303274/ Dec 26 19:57:29 dystopia: phonet is old news Dec 26 19:57:35 btw Dec 26 19:57:47 ahh:-) Dec 26 19:57:53 it was expected and contributed already back at summit i think Dec 26 20:01:36 wb qwerty12_N801 Dec 26 20:01:37 * dystopia attempts to sync Dec 26 20:01:59 thanks Stskeeps, stupid router... Dec 26 20:02:45 dystopia: .. sync with n8x0? :P Dec 26 20:30:35 Stskeeps: -current =] Dec 26 20:34:20 mm, cos sync is possible in fremantle with g_nokia it seems Dec 26 20:58:29 grmblr Dec 26 20:58:58

: service unavailable. Command output: Message content rejected Dec 26 21:04:05 Vulcanis: uhm... rocketfish and motorola Dec 26 21:04:16 the "codes" come up automatically, but it just refuses to connect. Dec 26 21:08:09 !!! What a huge performance with the webkit engine compared to the old! Dec 26 21:09:18 google reader work as fast as it works with FF3 on my ubuntubox Dec 26 21:15:38 does it glitch? Dec 26 21:15:53 Meiz_n810: How do you install it? Dec 26 21:16:42 Vulcanis: download a bunch of packages and dpkg -i them Dec 26 21:16:52 check itT for them Dec 26 21:17:25 glitch? Dec 26 21:17:32 whats that ? Dec 26 21:22:24 :P even google maps is usable with is Dec 26 21:22:28 s/is/it/ Dec 26 21:22:29 Meiz_n810 meant: :P even google maps it usable with is Dec 26 21:22:52 * sp3000 sends a third time Dec 26 21:58:18 well, yay, the community list doesn't like me Dec 26 22:00:42 * sp3000 sends a fourth version Dec 26 22:06:12 Hello, I have a n800 (diablo, 5.2008.43-7) and seems everything works fine except maemo-mapper gets a segfault on startup. Dec 26 22:06:43 I tried to reinstall, no change .... I renamed ~/.maemo-mapper, no change Dec 26 22:07:08 I compared the ldd output with another n800 on which maemo-mapper works fine, exactly the same. Dec 26 22:07:20 I am wondering what else I could check. Dec 26 22:07:30 it might not be for diablo, check the repos Dec 26 22:07:32 Does anybody have a hint.....? Dec 26 22:13:16 Vulcanis: I have version 2.5.2-os2008, is there a os2008 which is incompatible with Diablo? Dec 26 22:13:27 I meant the maemo mapper stuff Dec 26 22:13:31 but I have no idea, I don't use it Dec 26 22:14:38 I have deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ diablo free non-free in the sources.list.d Dec 26 22:14:50 That is the source which provides maemo-mapper Dec 26 22:15:02 that shouldn't be the problem, then Dec 26 22:15:21 Alright, Modest can't copy more than one line. Dec 26 22:17:59 * rzr is about to flash SU-18_2008HACKER_4.2007.50-6_PR_F5_MR0_ARM.bin on his n770 Dec 26 22:18:05 is it risked ? Dec 26 22:18:42 rzr: let me know how it goes I have an n770 with os2006 here. Dec 26 22:18:59 i got a n770 in need of some fresh sw too Dec 26 22:19:20 * sp3000 sends a fifth version Dec 26 22:21:29 glass: hey are you the glass of #j2me etc ? Dec 26 22:21:48 no, he is a glass of tomato juice. Dec 26 22:22:56 GAN: Really? Dec 26 22:23:35 * RST38h hasn't really managed to send anything using Modest and quit attempts on using it Dec 26 22:25:40 rzr: yeah Dec 26 22:25:47 rzr: what you're up to nowadays? Dec 26 22:26:17 i am back into mobile bizness :) Dec 26 22:26:22 rzr: nice :) Dec 26 22:26:24 4 years later :) Dec 26 22:26:27 rzr: i just switched jobs Dec 26 22:26:35 same for me Dec 26 22:26:42 rzr: i'm at openbit/tanla now, mobile payment stuff Dec 26 22:27:01 i'll tell you where i am soon Dec 26 22:27:06 i havent started yet Dec 26 22:27:09 hehe Dec 26 22:27:17 rm_us Dec 26 22:27:19 rrrraagh Dec 26 22:27:24 rzr: i did symbian for a long while Dec 26 22:37:27 Stskeeps, OK, since I can't freaking copy this. Dec 26 22:38:12 Stskeeps, basically: what areas and components should the community focus on for a community backport? Dec 26 22:42:43 glass: is symbian diying now ? Dec 26 22:44:15 rzr: no, not at all Dec 26 22:44:48 rzr: not at least if you look at numbers. if you ask from devs who live in a cave then sure yeah it's dying like it has been for 5 years Dec 26 22:46:54 * sp3000 sends a sixth version Dec 26 22:52:05 walter: seems ok : http://rzr.online.fr/q/maemo Dec 26 22:57:43 I HAVE SEEN THE RX-51! Dec 26 22:58:00 is it nice? Dec 26 22:58:20 It is incredibly nice Dec 26 22:58:23 riiiight Dec 26 22:58:32 It opens doors Dec 26 22:58:39 And bridges realities Dec 26 22:58:47 Enjoy: http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/26/nokia-dreams-up-four-way-folding-communicator/ Dec 26 23:03:00 bull Dec 26 23:03:02 * RST38h really hopes Nokia retains those hinges in the N900 Dec 26 23:03:05 woho, mess around with systemui.xml and suddenly the menu is empty even tho the looks correct... Dec 26 23:03:45 oh for fuck's sake Dec 26 23:03:59 huh? Dec 26 23:04:00 * sp3000 splits his message by paragraph to see if the list will have it Dec 26 23:04:11 i read that 12 hrs ago its a multi touch patent application by nokia.. Dec 26 23:04:28 t_s_o: -community is rejecting me :) Dec 26 23:04:39 ah Dec 26 23:05:39 xchat dark theme, my balls... Dec 26 23:07:58 patent application does not guarantee design used in the upcoming device you're rooting for Dec 26 23:08:18 to much defensive patenting going on these days Dec 26 23:08:33 dystopia <-- has no sense of humor Dec 26 23:08:53 I mean, the picture has DOOR HINGES for god's sake... Dec 26 23:09:00 waste of time Dec 26 23:11:00 lets see, what format is systemui.xml supposed to be in, dos or unix? Dec 26 23:12:13 im not sure whats worse, editors that complain about the diff, or editors that silently change one into the other without telling... Dec 26 23:13:46 ye darn missing > Dec 26 23:17:46 hrmf, is there really any practical diff between soft poweroff and just going offline mode and then locking the display? Dec 26 23:18:01 no Dec 26 23:18:11 figures Dec 26 23:18:41 * sp3000 sends the eighth version Dec 26 23:19:13 softpoweroff can be customized not to go into offline mode. + it's a few keypresses short which makes all the difference in the world to lazy people like me ;) Dec 26 23:19:48 well Dec 26 23:19:57 if you're not making it go into offline mode Dec 26 23:20:02 power button + center button = same thing Dec 26 23:21:38 so it does not do anything special with the system state to make it sleep correctly? Dec 26 23:22:34 i just want to tie my lock key with batten down the hatches" Dec 26 23:35:46 * sp3000 sends the ninth version Dec 27 00:08:22 BlackAdder+QT Designer+PyQT looks (to me) like a more productive avenue than Komodo+Glade+PyGtk because QT Designer provides an interface that is closer to WYSIWYG. Dec 27 00:08:46 I'm trying to pick the right toolkit before I write the program, since the program will have to run on Vista, Ubuntu and the Nokia N810 Dec 27 00:26:02 * sp3000 sends the tenth version Dec 27 00:28:05 Stskeeps, still there? :P Dec 27 00:29:12 christmas time, why is it always a time to fix computers \@/ Dec 27 00:29:31 y2k8 bug Dec 27 00:29:46 *9 even come think of it Dec 27 00:30:20 my pooter is spread across the floor in need of tlc Dec 27 00:33:06 * sp3000 sends the eleventh version in two parts Dec 27 00:33:43 Did anybody see me leave? Dec 27 00:34:02 Was this tab closed or did X-Fade finally kick my ass? :P Dec 27 00:35:43 18:48 -!- GAN8001 [n=GAN8001@2416422hfc34.tampabay.res.rr.com] has left #maemo [] Dec 27 00:37:19 Ah, too bad. No kickwar today, then. ;) Dec 27 00:38:02 has anyone experienced shunning by the lists, or is it just me :) Dec 27 00:38:14 Shunning? Dec 27 00:38:27 the list is currently in a post christmas hangover state Dec 27 00:38:39 what can i do if i cant open a browsers Dec 27 00:39:04 alterego?! Dec 27 00:39:09 it's given me Message content rejected 12 times :) Dec 27 00:39:27 * sp3000 files a bug Dec 27 00:39:28 sp3000, no, but I haven't mailed anything to them recently. Dec 27 00:40:20 * lcuk twiddles his thumbs Dec 27 00:41:01 could someone be my eyes on the net for a few minutes, i was wanting to find out if theres other toolkits which can sit within gtk but are rendered via opengl Dec 27 00:41:30 ie like clutter - i want to see if the performance problems are down to clutter or ogl itself Dec 27 00:44:06 hi all Dec 27 00:45:19 * qwerty12_N800 debates whether on installing dpkg-dev on my tablet so I can send xchat 2.8.6 to the autobuilder again... Dec 27 00:46:26 Stskeeps, are you awake? Dec 27 00:50:19 oh balls, now the dvd burner crapped out \?/ Dec 27 00:50:33 bug 3964 Dec 27 00:52:00 sp3000, did somebody unsubscribe you for Christmas? :P Dec 27 00:53:06 I have timeless from the 24th on that list Dec 27 00:53:20 Nothing newer here Dec 27 00:53:44 so yeah if someone did that would have been appropriate christmas present timing :P Dec 27 00:54:34 http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2008-December/date.html Dec 27 00:54:45 yeah Dec 27 00:54:57 can you test if it's on? :) Dec 27 00:56:59 email sent Dec 27 00:57:02 waiting... Dec 27 01:02:53 sp3000, confirmed. Dec 27 01:03:01 wee Dec 27 01:04:21 I guess X-Fade'll fix it in the morning. Dec 27 01:06:22 holy poo! this new external burner is faster than the internal one ever was Dec 27 01:06:46 Holy poo! Dec 27 01:06:53 Holy Poo! Dec 27 01:07:13 Mr. Hankey! Dec 27 01:07:33 indeed though, the internal has never managed to get over 2.4 no matter what media i threw at it (but its rare i do dvds) Dec 27 01:08:09 I haven't burned anything in at least a year Dec 27 01:09:09 yeah i havent done much either (mostly hd->hd or net backups) but one of my drives just crapped out so its given me the eeby jeedys Dec 27 01:09:20 b^ Dec 27 01:10:39 mmm, 3 years of old digital cam images == 2gb, 1 year with new cam == 9gb Dec 27 01:11:43 Pfft Dec 27 01:11:44 Nothing Dec 27 01:12:14 I'm up to around 220GB after about 7 years Dec 27 01:12:28 My friend just came back from Cuba with 70GB Dec 27 01:12:30 how do you backup Dec 27 01:12:57 To a 750GB on another machine right now. Dec 27 01:13:34 we truly are in the digital dark ages :) Dec 27 01:13:38 Time Machine locally, periodic remote dumps from my mother's laptop Dec 27 01:14:09 DSLR really eats space quickly Dec 27 01:14:27 It's bad when you can take 40MB of pictures in a second. Dec 27 01:14:54 without post processing and a massive cutting room floor it will be unmanagable soon Dec 27 01:15:40 and its not just the size of data, its the sheer amount created Dec 27 01:16:14 Little crazy Dec 27 01:16:34 I can't imagine what it'd be like to post-process 17,000 photos. Dec 27 01:16:44 its part of the reason im reviewing my everlasting stream ;) Dec 27 01:17:43 your computer should periodically come up with a message: "you are about to lost 90% of your data, tell me what you cannot live without" Dec 27 01:17:51 lose ^ Dec 27 01:25:39 XD :) Dec 27 01:35:03 mmmm ive got the (visually atrractive) qt4 designer on, all well and good, but the widgets and layouts are still all generically mouse oriented Dec 27 01:35:50 * lcuk curses normal uis for making 90% of the screen unfriendly to touch Dec 27 01:36:12 Touch sucks and lcuk sucks. Dec 27 01:37:23 heh gan, it riles me that my system knows ive got a stylus, yet things like lists and browser windows dont do the normal thing and allow me to grab the 90% of real space on the screen to move it and force me to stupidly use the scrollbar Dec 27 01:41:09 gah @ 110% cpu Dec 27 01:49:03 i had to teach my mom how to use a scrollbar Dec 27 01:49:17 but she intuitively tapped the browser and tried to pull the page around Dec 27 01:49:30 so agree with lcuk Dec 27 01:51:16 lcuk: My sensei said, always give 110%. ;) Dec 27 01:51:22 hiya pupnik_ :) Dec 27 01:51:32 It'suh pupnik_. Dec 27 01:51:41