**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 30 02:59:57 2009
Jun 30 03:34:49 <b-man16> i'm back
Jun 30 03:37:37 <pupnik> good
Jun 30 03:37:53 <pupnik> now we know where to call-in the air-strike
Jun 30 03:42:09 <xnt14> :P
Jun 30 03:43:39 <xnt14> ~airstrike NULL
Jun 30 03:43:46 <xnt14> ~strike NULL
Jun 30 03:43:54 <xnt14> ok w/e
Jun 30 04:40:19 <Proteous> Bears, very, large, bears
Jun 30 04:40:25 <Proteous> that is all
Jun 30 07:50:03 <RST38h> EHLO all
Jun 30 07:53:57 <Corsac_> EHLO RST38h
Jun 30 08:53:59 <pupnik> i have begun to wear off the silver on my n810 keyboard
Jun 30 08:54:06 <pupnik> m and o
Jun 30 09:18:28 <RST38h> pupnik: a and e still holding up? =)
Jun 30 09:19:07 <pupnik> yeah, fine
Jun 30 09:19:20 <pupnik> maybe my right thumb emits acid
Jun 30 09:19:32 <pupnik> how are you, rsalveti ?
Jun 30 09:19:36 <pupnik> RST38h, ?
Jun 30 09:19:56 <RST38h> slow and lazy today
Jun 30 09:20:18 <pupnik> oh you remind me the shiitake needs to go in the basement...brb
Jun 30 09:21:07 <Jaffa> Morning, all
Jun 30 09:21:46 <RST38h> moorning.
Jun 30 09:24:09 <RST38h> Chinese Govt Outlaws Gold Farming heheh
Jun 30 09:24:53 <gomiam> yeah, that's a funny one. Now only the government will be allowed to farm gold
Jun 30 09:25:28 <gomiam> I'm wondering... has anyone had problems downloading Navicore map files on a N800?
Jun 30 09:25:52 <pupnik> rely
Jun 30 09:25:54 <pupnik> surely
Jun 30 09:26:05 <gomiam> oh, it seems _I_ was the error
Jun 30 09:26:09 <gomiam> PEBKAC, as usual
Jun 30 09:26:47 <pupnik> or PEBTAC?
Jun 30 09:27:03 <gomiam> pupnik: in this case, I have a Bt keyboard ;)
Jun 30 09:27:07 <pupnik> i forgot the acronym
Jun 30 09:27:08 <gomiam> so PEBKAC still applies
Jun 30 09:27:10 <gomiam> :P
Jun 30 09:27:23 <gomiam> (Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair)
Jun 30 09:27:28 <pupnik> ahh
Jun 30 09:27:54 <ukki> morning
Jun 30 09:28:06 <gomiam> hi ukki
Jun 30 09:28:09 <pupnik> morning angry stomach
Jun 30 09:31:26 <ukki> pupnik: it's not angry anymore
Jun 30 09:31:26 <the2nd> hi
Jun 30 09:32:22 <the2nd> does anybody know if gpe-calendar on maemo supports caldav?
Jun 30 09:33:36 <pupnik> possibly
Jun 30 09:34:38 <the2nd> there is an option to create an "subcribed" or "published" calendar
Jun 30 09:34:41 <the2nd> but not both
Jun 30 09:39:18 <pupnik> wow, my thinkpad un-died again
Jun 30 09:39:22 <pupnik> magic
Jun 30 09:45:47 <pupnik> wow, i got so happy my back oain receeded
Jun 30 09:48:07 <pupnik> browserd[4379]: GLIB DEBUG default - memory_low_ind = 0,  system_inactivity_ind: 0
Jun 30 09:48:17 <pupnik> swap, swap, swap
Jun 30 09:48:57 <pupnik> xchat + mytube + mplayer + 2 browser windows >= 128MB
Jun 30 09:50:33 <pupnik> RST38h, you know hardware, isnt there some low power dram that could be added to tablets for a "fast swap cache"?
Jun 30 09:51:11 <pupnik> instead of ram+swap, ram+slowram+swap
Jun 30 11:15:31 <lcuk2> http://liqbase.net/liqbase_net_preview.png
Jun 30 11:15:46 <lcuk2> liqbase_net is going live in the next couple of days.
Jun 30 11:16:08 <lcuk2> there will be a release of liqbase which includes automatic uploading
Jun 30 11:16:10 <RST38h> live as in what? =)
Jun 30 11:16:14 <lcuk2> syncing back down will follow
Jun 30 11:16:20 <RST38h> "it's alive! it's alive" thing? =)
Jun 30 11:16:24 <lcuk2> yeah :)
Jun 30 11:16:39 <lcuk2> at the moment its on my home server and it will be killed instantly
Jun 30 11:16:59 <lcuk2> its still very much work in progress, but at least ill never lose another sketch :)
Jun 30 11:17:24 <lcuk2> what you dont see there is the reply mechanism and rendering view
Jun 30 11:17:36 <lcuk2> on the tablet its expected to use the zooming interface
Jun 30 11:18:03 <lcuk2> and very simple mechanics to talk and reply to friends
Jun 30 11:18:11 <lcuk2> using sketches notes or photos
Jun 30 11:19:20 <lcuk2> RST38h, i stopped waiting to get the tagging working on device, i couldnt find a nice interface in time, so will defer to large format tagging later
Jun 30 11:20:05 <RST38h> don't you think that it is time to go from just playing around to releasing a completed app?
Jun 30 11:20:34 <lcuk2> and that is what is happening in just a couple of days :)
Jun 30 11:20:51 <RST38h> mmm....
Jun 30 11:21:34 <lcuk2> the app has been complete for me for over a year now, ive got the notes i want and am making use of them and remembering everything i want
Jun 30 11:34:19 <infobot> I herald you, my supreme master! Lead us into the light of your wisdom and power
Jun 30 11:35:35 <lardman> infobot: you seen the General arrive hey?
Jun 30 11:40:48 <thux> OT ain't atom 270 single core? why then cpuinfo see cpu0 and cpu1?
Jun 30 11:41:45 <lardman> hyperthreading?
Jun 30 11:42:00 <thux> could be
Jun 30 11:42:46 <thux> like old p4 got
Jun 30 11:43:35 <lardman> yeah, I heard they were going to re-introduce it even on the multi-core chips
Jun 30 11:44:56 <thux> ok i see
Jun 30 11:47:04 <soap> atom 2xx = single core.
Jun 30 11:47:21 <bongo|kup> hi. when i connect my tablet to a network it uses 100% cpu for about 30 or 40 seconds. what can i do to avoid this?
Jun 30 11:48:46 <soap> 3xx = dual core.  5xx = single core
Jun 30 11:49:58 <infobot> I herald you, my supreme master! Lead us into the light of your wisdom and power
Jun 30 11:49:59 <lcuk2> bongo|kup, don't connect to the network!
Jun 30 11:50:11 <bongo|kup> :P
Jun 30 11:50:26 <lcuk2> have you got anything that tries to sync
Jun 30 11:50:44 <lcuk2> cos that sounds like a culprit you should be investigating
Jun 30 11:51:35 <qwerty12_N810> bongo|kup: as root: /etc/init.d/icd2 stop && icd2 and see what runs when you connect to a network
Jun 30 11:52:21 <bongo|kup> i tried to disable app manager auto update with gconf and turned email update off .... ok, i'll check this
Jun 30 11:55:08 <infobot> I herald you, my supreme master! Lead us into the light of your wisdom and power
Jun 30 12:00:19 <infobot> I herald you, my supreme master! Lead us into the light of your wisdom and power
Jun 30 12:15:16 <infobot> I herald you, my supreme master! Lead us into the light of your wisdom and power
Jun 30 12:16:01 <soap> WTF is up with the "infobot"?
Jun 30 12:16:23 <lcuk2> hes worshiping RichiH who keeps leaving and entering
Jun 30 12:19:43 <t_s_o> hmm, bug hooked up to n810 by way of serial?
Jun 30 12:21:53 * RST38h ponders the usability of teaching infobot about making sacrifices
Jun 30 12:22:36 <RST38h> As in "kick/ban random user every time RichiH enters"
Jun 30 12:34:04 <xnt14> :P
Jun 30 12:34:18 <xnt14> ~seen b-man16
Jun 30 12:34:20 <infobot> b-man16 <n=b-man16@cpe-98-30-195-117.woh.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 8h 59m 30s ago, saying: 'i'm back'.
Jun 30 12:34:29 <xnt14> :P
Jun 30 12:34:41 * xnt14 gets back to work on his dev center
Jun 30 13:06:52 <RST38h> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JF03i7NfIU&feature=PlayList&p=6BA6C22392906B2C&p%20laynext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=4
Jun 30 13:17:49 <GAN800> Nice. New flasher for all relevant OSes.
Jun 30 13:19:35 <fiferboy> lbt, you around?
Jun 30 13:19:45 <lbt> yep
Jun 30 13:20:03 <fiferboy> 4.5.2 with fingerscrolling is really slow too
Jun 30 13:20:20 <lbt> yes, I'd noticed :(
Jun 30 13:20:32 <lbt> it's horrible
Jun 30 13:20:51 <fiferboy> I'm going to double check to make sure I got everything in that patch I made, but I can't really see it working at all if I left something out
Jun 30 13:24:48 <fiferboy> lbt: I wonder if the webkit scrolling should be done by patching webkit instead of Qt, like Tear does
Jun 30 13:24:58 <lbt> I *strongly* suspect there is something wrong with the build
Jun 30 13:25:10 <lbt> eg the render engine has changed
Jun 30 13:25:26 <fiferboy> I'll double check to make sure my patch is correct, but I agree with you
Jun 30 13:31:38 <fiferboy> raster rendering backend looks borked
Jun 30 13:31:51 <fiferboy> running "birdlist -graphicssystem raster" results in horrible performace
Jun 30 13:32:06 <fiferboy> "birdlist -graphicssystem native" is much better, but not as good as raster used to me
Jun 30 13:37:49 <fiferboy> lbt: Try running a program with "-graphicssystem native" and see if it is better
Jun 30 13:39:50 <lbt> I'm in Diablo atm with the standard Qt-maemo
Jun 30 13:40:24 <lbt> and it's not good either
Jun 30 13:40:41 <fiferboy> Even with native rendering backend?
Jun 30 13:40:57 <fiferboy> It is smoother in Diablo for me, but not as good as it used to be
Jun 30 13:41:26 <lbt> no, not tried native yet
Jun 30 13:42:13 <lbt> -graphicssystem native makes a *HUGE* improvement!!!
Jun 30 13:42:27 <fiferboy> Yeah, raster looks like it has a problem
Jun 30 13:45:27 <VDVsx> hahah, a lot of buzz around the name of the new network manager thing, lolol
Jun 30 13:49:23 <lbt> fiferboy: that's odd... after I ran "-graphicssystem native" it was good
Jun 30 13:49:34 <lbt> then running it with no args is good too
Jun 30 13:50:03 <fiferboy> It seems to use the last graphicssystem until another argument call
Jun 30 13:50:32 <Macer> my bloody valentine cracks me up
Jun 30 13:50:34 <Macer> hahaha
Jun 30 13:51:11 <lbt> -graphicssystem raster is good too...
Jun 30 13:51:16 <lbt> opengl isn't found
Jun 30 13:51:20 <fiferboy> Better than native?
Jun 30 13:52:19 <fiferboy> raster is still choppy for me
Jun 30 13:53:23 <fiferboy> Running with no argument is also choppy for me
Jun 30 13:53:26 <lbt> native is possibly better
Jun 30 14:01:43 <toggles_w> q
Jun 30 14:01:43 <toggles_w> q
Jun 30 14:43:33 <N810-013-Tilburg> hey everyone
Jun 30 14:43:45 <X-Fade> Hi N810-013-Tilburg.
Jun 30 14:43:47 <N810-013-Tilburg> ive just bought an nokia n810
Jun 30 14:43:56 <N810-013-Tilburg> hu X-Fade
Jun 30 14:44:13 <N810-013-Tilburg> do you have any experience with the N810
Jun 30 14:44:22 <X-Fade> N810-013-Tilburg: Then you are the second one with a N810 in Tilburg ;)
Jun 30 14:44:31 <N810-013-Tilburg> ow:P
Jun 30 14:44:44 <N810-013-Tilburg> more NL people arround here then:D
Jun 30 14:44:56 <X-Fade> A few.
Jun 30 14:45:03 <N810-013-Tilburg> aha
Jun 30 14:46:46 <N810-013-Tilburg> i think i will receive my n810 in about 2 days. because i have just ordered it via the internet
Jun 30 14:47:14 <N810-013-Tilburg> i can wait :P lol
Jun 30 14:47:31 <X-Fade> Heh. You've waited for a long time, so ..
Jun 30 14:49:03 <N810-013-Tilburg> yeah itindeed
Jun 30 14:49:07 <N810-013-Tilburg> i must go
Jun 30 14:49:09 <N810-013-Tilburg> see you
Jun 30 14:51:12 <Razumihin> Hilarious :)
Jun 30 14:55:52 * RST38h yawns
Jun 30 14:56:04 * toggles_w stretches
Jun 30 14:57:46 <RST38h> "Peter Sunde told Torrent Freak that they are indeed closing down TPB's tracker and decentralizing to the point listed torrents won't be hosted on the site anymore."
Jun 30 14:58:48 <RST38h> Funny what $8m can do...
Jun 30 15:04:26 <slonopotamus> Stskeeps, hello :) i finished alphabet
Jun 30 15:07:53 <slonopotamus> anyone has ideas how to most easily implement -H/-V options of text2screen
Jun 30 15:07:54 <slonopotamus> ?
Jun 30 15:13:09 <slonopotamus> i see.
Jun 30 15:46:23 * xnt14 is bored
Jun 30 15:47:17 <xnt14> #include <stdio.h> int main() { printf("Hello World!"); return 0; }
Jun 30 15:47:27 <xnt14> :P
Jun 30 15:48:36 <RST38h> *(void *)0=0;
Jun 30 15:57:37 <RST38h> FireFox 3.5 is out!
Jun 30 16:02:00 <_berto_> RST38h: the definitive weapon: http://5.media.tumblr.com/yS8gPi2Zln2nqznte8xAYujio1_400.jpg
Jun 30 16:03:05 <RST38h> berto: I wonder what stopped them from using a poster from the well known SNES game =)
Jun 30 16:03:37 <_berto_> there was a firefox game? i remember starfox/starwing
Jun 30 16:04:47 <RST38h> Starfox, yes
Jun 30 16:07:11 <RST38h> Hmm...I already see some problems. Video does not play until completely loaded
Jun 30 16:07:36 <RST38h> And do I understand it correctly that OGG is now the standard for web video/audio?
Jun 30 16:10:04 <caotic> Do anyone knows if the n810 supports 16 GB microSD cards ?
Jun 30 16:10:24 <bef0rd> I think so caotic
Jun 30 16:10:37 <RST38h> caotic: It should.
Jun 30 16:10:58 <caotic> I see
Jun 30 16:11:13 <caotic> I hope, drooling at the idea :P
Jun 30 16:16:14 <wjs_ltop> Hello,  does anybody know where I can get the cdc_acm kernel module for diablo (2.6.21-omap1)?
Jun 30 16:17:29 <toggles_w> anyone know how to tether to a pc via bt for internet? even usb would probably do..
Jun 30 16:17:48 <lbt> usb is covered in the wiki
Jun 30 16:17:57 <toggles_w> lbt: thanks
Jun 30 16:18:09 <lbt> BT is a PAN thing ... I want to do it but haven't :)
Jun 30 16:18:13 <toggles_w> bt would be cooler
Jun 30 16:18:16 <toggles_w> ;-)
Jun 30 16:18:18 * lbt nods
Jun 30 16:18:36 <lbt> do you mean a linux PC/laptop ?
Jun 30 16:18:45 <toggles_w> lbt: yeah, ubuntu
Jun 30 16:19:18 <lbt> well, I do the USB thing from time to time... I use bridging
Jun 30 16:19:43 <toggles_w> im searching the wiki for it
Jun 30 16:19:49 <lbt> http://pastebin.com/m131fc4d
Jun 30 16:19:58 <lbt> in /etc/network/interfaces
Jun 30 16:20:28 <lbt> missed br0..... http://pastebin.com/m4dd06749
Jun 30 16:21:01 <toggles_w> lbt: on the n8x0 or desktop?
Jun 30 16:21:08 <lbt> desktop....
Jun 30 16:21:25 <lbt> hmm, actually looking at that I don't use bridging anymore do I :)
Jun 30 16:21:32 <toggles_w> lbt: thanks
Jun 30 16:21:44 <lbt> find the wiki page too
Jun 30 16:21:55 <lbt> IIRC you need to boot Mer holding down a key
Jun 30 16:22:04 <lbt> and then select usb host mode
Jun 30 16:22:29 <toggles_w> lbt: oh, yeh, that's automatich, I do that all the time, i was thinkgin more diablo
Jun 30 16:22:33 <lbt> you can do it live via rmmod/modprobe but I don't know which and never bothered
Jun 30 16:22:34 <toggles_w> automatic
Jun 30 16:23:01 <lbt> oh, I'm in #maemo :)
Jun 30 16:24:58 <toggles_w> ;-)
Jun 30 16:34:18 <lopz> hi
Jun 30 16:45:10 <Floris2> hi
Jun 30 16:49:50 <Floris2> hi
Jun 30 17:30:12 <wjs_ltop> Hello, does anybody know where I can get the cdc_acm kernel module for diablo (2.6.21-omap1)?
Jun 30 17:57:57 <RST38h> azerty
Jun 30 17:58:25 <qwerty12_N810> fvt38h
Jun 30 17:59:51 <RST38h> no such opcode but you can use 30h =)
Jun 30 18:01:29 <qwerty12_N810> :P
Jun 30 18:01:55 * RST38h seems to remember that rst30h was usually used for interslot calls
Jun 30 18:05:53 <johnsq> Hi
Jun 30 18:08:28 <TTilus> should i expect google maps, bing maps, or any alike to work with os2008 browser?
Jun 30 18:08:53 <TTilus> it seems as if they dont
Jun 30 18:09:20 <aquatix> google maps should work
Jun 30 18:09:27 <aquatix> it did here
Jun 30 18:11:51 <TTilus> im trying maps.google.fi, it loads fine except that the map area stays gray
Jun 30 18:12:21 <TTilus> (and its darn small)
Jun 30 18:27:54 <wjs_ltop> qwerty12_N810: I was just rereading the thread on kismet..  I have a version kismet_2008-05-R1_armel.deb, but I'm still not able to post, are you interested in it?
Jun 30 18:29:00 <qwerty12_N810> wjs_ltop: Thank you very much, but the source and the deb was uploaded by another person who happened to have it. :)
Jun 30 18:30:02 <wjs_ltop> Ok, I'm just confused about a 2007 version verses a 2008 version.  I don't remember where I got the 2008 version from though.
Jun 30 18:31:59 <wjs_ltop> Well, since nobody knows where I can get the cdc_acm module..  Does anybody have a SDK env setup where they could compile it quickly for me?  please?
Jun 30 18:33:29 <z4chh> why do programs like advanced backlight use dmse library functions to update brightness level?
Jun 30 18:33:55 <z4chh> dsme ^^
Jun 30 18:34:02 <slonopotamus> z4chh, instead of what?
Jun 30 18:34:18 <johnsq> kernel sys filesystem
Jun 30 18:34:27 <z4chh>  /sys/devices/platform/omapfb/panel/backlight_level
Jun 30 18:35:15 <slonopotamus> because they looked how original applet does it and did the same way?
Jun 30 18:35:17 <johnsq> z4chh: perhaps no user permissions.
Jun 30 18:35:26 <slonopotamus> ah, that's too
Jun 30 18:35:38 <qwerty12_N810> Because dsme will reset the backlight to what it set it to anyway
Jun 30 18:36:03 <z4chh> eh?
Jun 30 18:36:18 <z4chh> i noticed
Jun 30 18:36:40 <z4chh> if i used like nano to edit backlight_level ...it changes it for like 2 seconds and goes back to the brightness it was
Jun 30 18:37:04 <slonopotamus> nano?! oh my :)
Jun 30 18:37:17 * slonopotamus prefers cat for such tricks
Jun 30 18:37:28 * johnsq uses echo
Jun 30 18:37:30 <slonopotamus> echo, i meant
Jun 30 18:37:45 <slonopotamus> cat to read, echho to set
Jun 30 18:37:59 <z4chh> blah i always forget which way the >> << goes
Jun 30 18:38:00 <z4chh> ;p
Jun 30 18:38:32 <slonopotamus> > in, < out. just remember it :)
Jun 30 18:39:07 <z4chh> echo 100 > /sys/devices/platform/omapfb/panel/backlight_level
Jun 30 18:39:07 <z4chh> ?
Jun 30 18:39:25 * qwerty12_N810 wrote shitty code to enable writing to a file in /proc. Because I never checked for \n, I ended up doing count-1 which worked when writing with echo but writing with printf cut off a char. :P
Jun 30 18:39:29 <johnsq> z4chh: yes you should lern forth > is to
Jun 30 18:40:33 <z4chh> so yeah i edit the integer in that file...the brightness gets set to that for like 1-2 seconds...then it reverts to the brightness i configured with like a status bar widget (e.g. advanced backlight)
Jun 30 18:43:54 <qwerty12_N810> z4chh: fanoush's blset ( http://fanoush.wz.cz/maemo/blset ) may give inspiration but keep in mind that it was intended for use with a kernel patch of his
Jun 30 18:44:13 <z4chh> thanks
Jun 30 18:49:43 <johnsq> i have seen a kernel which supports the n810 slideout keyboard, but didn't find it again. any idea what it was?
Jun 30 18:50:12 <johnsq> support = FN sticky stuff in kernel space.
Jun 30 18:58:03 <johnsq> this http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-omap@vger.kernel.org/msg01343.html
Jun 30 19:11:04 <tds5016> hello all.  I have a bit of a problem.
Jun 30 19:11:11 <tds5016> I am trying to go from chinook to maemo...
Jun 30 19:11:28 <tds5016> I've downloaded the automatic updater, but when I try to go into update mode, the connection fails.
Jun 30 19:11:33 <tds5016> it just boots into the os.
Jun 30 19:11:43 <tds5016> even after the usb symbol shows up in the right hand corner.
Jun 30 19:19:29 <GAN800> ~flashing
Jun 30 19:19:30 <infobot> [flashing] http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware
Jun 30 19:24:02 <caotic> is there a tab equibalent key in the n810 keyboard ?
Jun 30 19:24:16 <johnsq> caotic: CTRL-I
Jun 30 19:25:25 <caotic> johnsq: great thanks,
Jun 30 19:25:52 <caotic> is there a way to reasign this shurtcut, its kinda hard doing that key combination without droping the darn thing :S
Jun 30 19:26:35 <caotic> actually never mind that, what do you use to query your ip ? ifconfig seems to not be in busybox :P
Jun 30 19:27:01 <johnsq> caotic: use usb keyboard :9
Jun 30 19:27:35 <caotic> lol, that kind of defeates the purpose of having a keyboard :P
Jun 30 19:29:09 <RST38h> moo all
Jun 30 19:29:57 <johnsq> caotic: ls -l /mnt/initfs/sbin/ifconfig my bb has it
Jun 30 19:30:12 <ukki> caotic: /sbin/ifconfig
Jun 30 19:31:06 <caotic> oh, so is like an obnoxois redhat/fedora/derivates that dont include it in the path by default :P
Jun 30 19:31:13 <johnsq> caotic: keyboard you need this http://markmail.org/message/uzc3z57njgif6vno but didn't find to which kernel i should apply the patch
Jun 30 19:31:39 <johnsq> caotic: only root should have it
Jun 30 19:31:58 <caotic> oh ok, well that is right ...
Jun 30 19:32:00 <caotic> hehe
Jun 30 19:33:07 <caotic> how do you root on the n810, sorry to ask so many questions, but I have limited time to play with this gadget right now :P
Jun 30 19:33:34 <johnsq> caotic: I use gentoo :)
Jun 30 19:33:34 <qwerty12_N810> ~root-access
Jun 30 19:33:35 <infobot> hmm... root-access is http://wiki.maemo.org/Root_access
Jun 30 19:34:25 <RST38h> Night Skies movie sucks.
Jun 30 19:34:26 <caotic> thanks, qwerty12_N810, i think I would start googling
Jun 30 19:34:59 <RST38h> Why would anyone shoot a movie without a decent script, anyway?
Jun 30 19:35:27 <johnsq> RST38h: expensive and the people look also the crap
Jun 30 19:35:54 <qwerty12_N810> RST38h: the common incentive: $
Jun 30 19:37:18 <RST38h> qwerty: why would anyone watch a movie without a script?
Jun 30 19:38:15 <qwerty12_N810> They got it from <insert favourite torrent site here>? =)
Jun 30 19:39:14 <RST38h> not worth the traffic afaik
Jun 30 19:40:17 * RST38h goes to IMDB to confirm his opinion
Jun 30 19:40:28 <johnsq> RST38h: you have payed a ticket
Jun 30 19:40:34 <RST38h> 4.7/10 ... hmm
Jun 30 19:40:45 <caotic> I think the worst thing that could ever happend to the n810 (other than being stolen) is to get your wifi card busted :P
Jun 30 19:40:57 <RST38h> caotic: And how do you achieve that?
Jun 30 19:41:18 <caotic> dunno, but hardware isnt forever
Jun 30 19:41:21 <RST38h> johnsq: I haven't been to a movie theater for 1+ year
Jun 30 19:44:54 <caotic> should I install  (openssh server, openssh client) or just (openssh server client), I mean my question is, are this packages mantained by diferent people teams/people/comunity ?
Jun 30 19:45:52 <johnsq> caotic: i think they are for different use, only server or client or both
Jun 30 19:51:36 <caotic> It was a bad idea to untar php documentation in the n810, its the little guy is getting hotter and hotter
Jun 30 19:52:22 <ukki> it's a bad idea for any device
Jun 30 19:52:30 <javispedro> some people here have tried to compile openoffice -- supernova-like temperatures I assume
Jun 30 19:52:57 <javispedro> yes, I'm talking about you :)
Jun 30 19:53:40 <caotic> if I would want to compile files like those, how could I compile it in a desktop cpu ? a toolchain is requiered ?
Jun 30 19:58:42 <johnsq> development system needed
Jun 30 20:01:43 <caotic> alright well thanks for all the help guys, last but not least, is there a n810 exclusive comunity or its pretty much the same ?
Jun 30 20:20:17 <timeless_mbp> Stskeeps: ping
Jun 30 20:20:34 <timeless_mbp> (or anyone here who understands application manager)
Jun 30 20:20:34 <lbt> he's away this week
Jun 30 20:25:42 <Guest1400_559> when i try to packaging something whit dpkg-buildpackage -tc -rfakeroot...i got this error  :   fakeroot debian/rules clean /usr/bin/fakeroot: 166: debian/rules: not found dpkg-buildpackage: failure: fakeroot debian/rules clean gave error exit status 127
Jun 30 20:25:48 <Guest1400_559> any clue?
Jun 30 20:26:53 <lbt> for that kind of message use a pastebin
Jun 30 20:27:03 <lbt> sounds like you are missing dpkg-buildpackage
Jun 30 20:27:15 <Guest1400_559> how i can install?
Jun 30 20:27:21 <lbt> or maybe debian/rules
Jun 30 20:27:44 <lbt> or maybe fakeroot
Jun 30 20:27:56 <Guest1400_559> hum
Jun 30 20:28:18 <lbt> you've pasted a multi-line message all munged up on one line
Jun 30 20:28:43 <Guest1400_559> yes
Jun 30 20:29:00 <lbt> soyouneedtorunaptgetinstallthemissgingpackage
Jun 30 20:29:16 <lbt> hard isn't it ;)
Jun 30 20:29:25 <Guest1400_559> so here in separate line
Jun 30 20:29:27 <Guest1400_559> fakeroot debian/rules clean
Jun 30 20:29:33 <lbt> pastebin
Jun 30 20:29:54 <Guest1400_559> dpkg-buildpackage: failure: fakeroot debian/rules clean gave error exit status 127
Jun 30 20:31:04 <Guest1400_559> so what i need to install?
Jun 30 20:32:58 <Guest1400_559> ?
Jun 30 21:23:41 <caotic> what is the n810 equivalent state for wait mode ( minimum battery consumption, but not completely off ) ?
Jun 30 21:24:25 <tds5016> how do I see what packages I've installed with apt-get?
Jun 30 21:24:32 <qwerty12_N810> dpkg -l
Jun 30 21:25:33 <tds5016> how can I check the last let's say 50 packages I've installed?
Jun 30 21:27:58 <lbt> tds5016: you can't .... unless you have a log
Jun 30 21:29:15 <kkrusty> what do I need to install in order to get edje_cc? the sdk?
Jun 30 21:29:15 <tds5016> not being able to get to a | key is really pissing me off too...
Jun 30 21:29:27 <tds5016> I want to see ONLY the packages that _I've_ installed.
Jun 30 21:29:44 <ShadowJK> press CHR
Jun 30 21:29:59 <ShadowJK> for pipe
Jun 30 21:30:59 <tds5016> thanks. that is such a random place to put it.
Jun 30 21:31:10 <tds5016> considering it's a linux distro you think they'd make it easy to find. haha.
Jun 30 21:32:00 <ShadowJK> You can put it next to the page up page down ctrl thing onscreen
Jun 30 21:32:32 <ShadowJK> menu -> tools -> settings -> Toolbar shortcut
Jun 30 21:32:45 <ShadowJK> New
Jun 30 21:32:48 <ShadowJK> Title: |
Jun 30 21:32:51 <ShadowJK> Value: bar
Jun 30 21:33:30 <ShadowJK> the "bar" thing is important :)
Jun 30 21:33:30 <kkrusty> this has got to be the most helpful channel on freenode
Jun 30 21:33:34 <kkrusty> thanks a lot buddies
Jun 30 21:35:09 <ShadowJK> caotic, there's a suspend to ram mode, but it's not used
Jun 30 21:36:13 <lbt> ShadowJK: isn't it?
Jun 30 21:36:29 <lbt> 'soft poweroff' ?
Jun 30 21:37:09 <ShadowJK> ?
Jun 30 21:37:31 <lbt> when I press the power button I get an extended menu
Jun 30 21:37:39 <lbt> and it has soft poweroff on it
Jun 30 21:37:49 <ShadowJK> dunno who made that and what they made it do
Jun 30 21:37:52 <lbt> a config item somewhere IIRC
Jun 30 21:38:06 <ShadowJK> you can suspend to ram from FTD too
Jun 30 21:38:08 <Guest1604_948> my line issue is /usr/bin/fakeroot: 166: debian/rules: Permission denied dpkg-buildpackage: failure: fakeroot debian/rules clean gave error exit status 126
Jun 30 21:38:10 <Guest1604_948> any clue
Jun 30 21:38:22 <ShadowJK> but the device doesn't use STR by default out of the box :)
Jun 30 21:38:54 <lbt> I've had it do something along those lines when charging IIRC
Jun 30 21:39:05 <lbt> but no biggy :)
Jun 30 21:39:14 <lbt> just interesting
Jun 30 21:40:05 <ShadowJK> I guess when with cpu idle, screen, bluetooth, wlan, gps, usb and audio off the battery lasts a week or more, there was no need for STR :)
Jun 30 21:42:08 <lbt> very true
Jun 30 21:45:08 <lbt> ShadowJK:  in /etc/mce/mce.ini
Jun 30 21:45:19 <Guest1604_948> ;(
Jun 30 21:49:44 <kkrusty> lbt: thanks. sorry for the sarcasm outburst. I figured out the edje_cc part and I'll install those packages on a vm
Jun 30 21:49:56 <lbt> np :)
Jun 30 21:50:16 <kkrusty> Im just trying canola-rtm
Jun 30 21:50:46 <tds5016> has oneone in here ever worked with darwin streaming server?
Jun 30 21:51:03 <lbt> I'm a bit out of touch on the scratchbox side... it's all OBS at the moment
Jun 30 21:55:09 <edrex> right place for mer devs?
Jun 30 21:56:57 <lbt> edrex: try #mer
Jun 30 22:02:22 <lbt> edrex: you wanted Mer devs?
Jun 30 23:05:50 <caotic> this may sound silly, but is there an alternative for the n810 to alt+f2 (run command ) ?
Jun 30 23:37:51 <GeneralAntilles> timeless_mbp, ping?
Jun 30 23:42:55 * GeneralAntilles notes muscle memory is kicking in with the fingerkeyboard more than even a real keyboard.
Jun 30 23:58:59 <GeneralAntilles> Oh, you have to be fucking shitting me.
Jul 01 00:12:16 <daniel32708> guys, it would be so cool to have multi-usser support, with a login screen and stuff
Jul 01 00:12:38 <daniel32708> it shouldnt be that hard to achieve
Jul 01 00:14:04 <daniel32708> what do u think?
Jul 01 00:14:13 <LinuxCode> go on then, make one
Jul 01 00:14:37 <daniel32708> lol
Jul 01 00:14:42 <daniel32708> i am not a hacker
Jul 01 00:14:44 <daniel32708> i wish i were
Jul 01 00:15:02 <LinuxCode> then become one and then make one
Jul 01 00:15:24 <daniel32708> has anyone tried it? or is it planned?
Jul 01 00:15:33 * LinuxCode glares at GA
Jul 01 00:16:58 <daniel32708> also, is it possible to install stuff in the external sd card?   the internal memory aint that much
Jul 01 00:20:54 <caoticM> what shell does the n810 uses ?
Jul 01 00:22:39 <qwerty12_N810> It says "BusyBox v1.6.1 (2008-09-18 09:43:17 EEST) Built-in shell (ash)" at right at the top when you open a terminal...
Jul 01 00:23:45 <caoticM> this is embarassing :p
Jul 01 00:26:19 <daniel32708> is it possible to install stuff in the external sd card?   the internal memory aint that much
Jul 01 00:26:26 <daniel32708> software, etc
Jul 01 00:27:00 <daniel32708> if yes, how?  if not, why?
Jul 01 00:31:27 <crashanddie> daniel32708, you can install the root on the sd card
Jul 01 00:35:09 <caoticM> daniel32708: dirty trick, play with ln links and instalation directories
Jul 01 00:35:13 <GeneralAntilles> LinuxCode, no PPC version of flasher-3.5
Jul 01 00:35:26 <GeneralAntilles> I'm going to start killing Nokians.
Jul 01 00:35:32 <LinuxCode> GeneralAntilles, haha
Jul 01 00:35:50 <LinuxCode> kill one for me for not releasing details to me about when the new device is out
Jul 01 00:35:56 <LinuxCode> Im desperate for a new phone
Jul 01 01:28:01 <daniel32708> crashanddie  and  caoticM :  thx 4 reply!
Jul 01 01:45:44 <Macer> was lois and clark any good?
Jul 01 01:47:28 <daniel32708> maemo rules
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