**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 21 02:59:57 2009 Jul 21 03:57:52 hmm, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercules_emulator Jul 21 03:58:19 * xnt14 wonders if there is an eval edition of z/os...... Jul 21 04:05:23 wow Jul 21 04:05:35 i know a number of mainframe people who would consider this sacrilege Jul 21 04:05:44 they wont touch a PC with a ten foot barge pole Jul 21 04:07:22 lol Jul 21 04:07:46 so, their main computer is a mainframe? :P Jul 21 04:07:58 home mainframe...lol Jul 21 04:08:37 these people literally live on campus Jul 21 04:08:51 and they still think the PC is a fad Jul 21 04:09:10 they used mainframes for (many) decades Jul 21 04:29:19 Jul 21 04:31:31 * xnt14 goes to sleep Jul 21 05:36:16 so like Jul 21 05:36:25 virtualhosts in apache are supposed to be completely transparent right? Jul 21 05:36:29 even if the box is behind a nat? Jul 21 05:36:41 all traffic is simply directed by the apache server into the virtual hosts? Jul 21 05:36:53 even if the vhost is a redirected host on the local subnet? Jul 21 06:25:12 hi there, i need some advice on partitioning. Im going to install mer .15 tomarrow I want to keep maemo on the internal memory, have mer on the interal flash and have the two OSes use the same swap space on the internal memory? this is what i do with my workstation, but im fuzzy on how maemo uses swap? Jul 21 06:49:46 aah dang it. i cant flash my n810 with firmware. i intstalled boot menu with the mer installer. now when i start up the device with the swap button push... flasher3.0 doesnt do anything and the n810 boots Jul 21 06:57:17 did you start the flasher, and -then- the device? :P Jul 21 06:57:34 anyone know how to make an image of an n810? Jul 21 06:57:38 yes. have done it np a dozen times before Jul 21 06:57:41 that i could flash on to them? Jul 21 06:57:49 like, set one up, make image, flash on to others? Jul 21 06:58:15 for maemo input method,i can't switch one plugin to another using function "hildon_im_ui_activate_plugin(priv->ui,"himExample_vkb",TRUE);".is there anybody who know it? Jul 21 06:59:03 nice... now maemo boots ... and than reboots again and again... this is new. Jul 21 06:59:26 tl: what are you attempting to make? Jul 21 07:00:29 i want to switch from one plugin to another in maemo input method. Jul 21 07:00:49 alright - you have to make it present itself as supporting your current language Jul 21 07:00:51 else it will be grey Jul 21 07:01:16 tomdavidson, they call it userfriendly behaviour. instead of manual fix, it reboots for you Jul 21 07:01:21 yeah the twe plugin all are grey Jul 21 07:01:40 tomdavidson: did you clone to SD before? Jul 21 07:01:54 ha ha right... ive been mssing that feature with ms windows updates Jul 21 07:02:13 i did not clone first. Jul 21 07:02:25 nah, i was talking about if you ever did it Jul 21 07:02:38 hello, my name is Marat and i clone to SD Jul 21 07:02:46 dolly? Jul 21 07:02:46 :P Jul 21 07:02:55 or whatever that sheep name was Jul 21 07:03:05 ha ha ya i got ya Jul 21 07:03:11 i used to clone two times a day, but now do it only once it a week Jul 21 07:03:42 Stskeeps:what i should do to make it support current language.thanks Jul 21 07:04:11 tomdavidson, you should do cloning alone until initiated Jul 21 07:04:23 s/should/shouldn't/ Jul 21 07:06:18 i must be missing something. I dont understand the need for the clone at this point? btw, i used the mer installer rather than flashing the image Jul 21 07:06:43 tomdavidson: did you have low disk space at the time of installing? on the internal flash (root) Jul 21 07:06:48 hm Jul 21 07:06:54 can someone do me a favor and go to www.rancorous.net Jul 21 07:06:58 and see if they see anything? Jul 21 07:07:21 it's up Jul 21 07:07:27 awesome :) Jul 21 07:07:35 no errors where reported. and i had a fresh flash of maemo so i do not thinki had disk space issue Jul 21 07:07:50 i don't believe in facebook.. i believe if i am going to rant about things that it should be on my own server Jul 21 07:07:53 haha Jul 21 07:08:11 i have to start working on vhosts and web pages now :) Jul 21 07:08:37 Stskeeps: if you don't mind I'll work on making a mer one.. this site should run fast (at least 20x faster than that piece of crap esxi stuff did) Jul 21 07:08:38 stays booted with out the usb pluged it. also looks like the mer installer was going to use the interal sd for swap. i thought that was a bad itea? Jul 21 07:08:40 wow was taht a disappointment Jul 21 07:09:11 tomdavidson: nah - it's not that bad, but external swap would probably be saner Jul 21 07:09:37 the sd memory doesnt "wear out" faster? Jul 21 07:09:55 yeah.. and it's non-replacable Jul 21 07:10:11 afaik sd memory wearing out is a myth but who knows :P Jul 21 07:14:46 Stskeeps, sd cards have ~10k write cycles per block, right? Jul 21 07:15:18 Stskeeps, i wonder how many of them happen each day Jul 21 07:15:25 dang it. i start flasher. get the "Suitable USB device not found, waiting" message. Then I turn on the n810 with the swap key pressed. But i get the boot menu from when i tried to install mer and no flash. not finding much on the web Jul 21 07:17:25 tomdavidson: you can try the alternative, turn off n8x0 totally ad then put inn usb, then put in charger Jul 21 07:19:24 ms expressions isn't too bad for web design Jul 21 07:19:33 i mean not that i'm a hard core web designer Jul 21 07:19:36 but it looks rather good :) Jul 21 07:22:43 stskeeps still got the boot menu Jul 21 07:22:55 tomdavidson: hmm, flasher-3.0-static? Jul 21 07:23:35 nope flasher-3.0, i dont konw the differnce. Jul 21 07:23:48 try grabbing flasher-3.0-static, because your libusb may be foobar Jul 21 07:24:00 at this point it looks like it's on the computer side Jul 21 07:24:09 can i see the command you use to flash? Jul 21 07:27:58 i just tried static linked version.. "./flasher-3.0-static -F RX-44_DIABLO_5.2008.43-7_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R Jul 21 07:28:04 " Jul 21 07:30:52 will flasher let you create flash images? Jul 21 07:30:59 OMFG! Jul 21 07:31:02 SanDisk Extreme® (III) SD. and SDHC. Cards Jul 21 07:31:05 EXTREME!!@# Jul 21 07:31:08 !! Jul 21 07:31:16 30mb/sec! Jul 21 07:31:27 pavlov i have not tried. will do. just a min Jul 21 07:32:04 -F ... -f -R is what you want Jul 21 07:32:09 to flash an image on there Jul 21 07:32:32 Pavlov: heh Jul 21 07:32:40 yeah that thing is extreme Jul 21 07:32:50 Macer: yeah, i've got a few of them -- they're pretty nice Jul 21 07:33:22 really? Jul 21 07:33:24 tomdavidson: i dont know much about how mer works though Jul 21 07:33:32 class 10 32GB sds? Jul 21 07:33:34 heh Jul 21 07:33:41 Macer: i've just got the 8gb ones Jul 21 07:33:45 are you hoarding them? Jul 21 07:33:47 oh Jul 21 07:33:54 not the new fancy ones Jul 21 07:33:58 oh Jul 21 07:33:59 though i think the newer ones are just bigger Jul 21 07:34:32 but mine only claim class 6 Jul 21 07:34:40 but 30mb/s which i think is class 10 Jul 21 07:35:04 allright. i give. how do i create an image with flasher? Jul 21 07:35:13 dunno Jul 21 07:36:13 tomdavidson: no result on flashing diablo? Jul 21 07:36:48 tomdavidson: you're plugging it in via usb and then turning it on right? Jul 21 07:36:59 stskeeps nope not yet. bout time for me to call it quits though. Jul 21 07:37:03 yes pavlov Jul 21 07:37:12 tomdavidson: can i assume you pop the battery? Jul 21 07:37:59 and you're holding down the right button when you turn on your device? Jul 21 07:38:01 i did several times in troubleshooting. but never had to in the past Jul 21 07:38:33 the button to the left of the power button Jul 21 07:38:34 for the n810 it is the swap button. hold it down than turn it on Jul 21 07:38:41 the two overlapping triangles yeah Jul 21 07:38:47 er, rectangles Jul 21 07:39:07 hmm Jul 21 07:39:28 tomdavidson: try a different usb port on your computer? Jul 21 07:41:33 Nirbubgm akk Jul 21 07:41:44 ya i need to try it with out the hub. but the computer is in a closet in another room. ill have to rearrain a bit to make it work. using the same port as i had in the past though.sounds like it is the comptuer and not something with the boot menu or n810. freak, mayber i just need to restart after the latest updates Jul 21 07:41:45 * Stskeeps passes Jaffa a big mug of coffee Jul 21 07:44:08 push 2am for me. thank you for the help. i will hit up more later... good night Jul 21 07:44:42 gooud luck Jul 21 07:56:23 Good morning all Jul 21 07:57:28 I am catching the stylus motion event from my applet. But it does not get the motion / drag event. System handles / catches the event. Jul 21 07:57:48 How i can handle the drag event for applet development Jul 21 07:57:59 ?? any body any help..? Jul 21 08:36:28 little piece of me wishes they had iweb for windows :) Jul 21 08:36:45 good morning Jul 21 08:38:06 Lol, I got a Google Voice invite. Anyone happen to know a good proxy? =) Jul 21 08:40:59 Stskeeps: ta :) Jul 21 08:50:13 andre__: kinda amazing someone managed to choose to file a bug in misdirected :) Jul 21 08:50:27 andre__: we can close x-misdirected to new bugs... Jul 21 08:51:59 timeless_mbp, i just did Jul 21 08:52:13 ok :) Jul 21 08:52:14 well. in gnome bugzilla people file bugs into "Do not Use" Jul 21 08:52:21 * timeless_mbp chuckles Jul 21 08:53:06 fwiw, for misdirected, if our bugzilla is new enough we can set an entry group for admin Jul 21 08:53:20 and then you and i can move misdirected bugs w/o bothering the sheeple Jul 21 08:55:29 ah, nice Jul 21 08:55:29 * timeless_mbp sighs Jul 21 08:55:38 the osx dock just works Jul 21 08:55:44 ] Jul 21 08:55:54 i had a firefox item in my dock, i renamed the real app to firefox 3.0.x.app Jul 21 08:56:01 and added a firefox 3.5.x.app Jul 21 08:56:22 Jaffa: possible new target for Mer, -- archos 6 just got cracked open :) Jul 21 08:56:31 or whatever the omap3 one is Jul 21 08:59:06 when i clicked on my dock item, it managed to find 3.0.x and rename the icon in my dock Jul 21 09:01:27 <_BuBU1> Archos 5 (not archos 6 :) ) Jul 21 09:03:22 Stskeeps: nice Jul 21 09:03:37 Stskeeps: Can't see Archos meeting the vendor contract ;-) Jul 21 09:06:31 Jaffa: yeah.. so it will probably be an effort from the device community Jul 21 09:15:25 Stskeeps: did 0.15 ship? Jul 21 09:15:42 timeless_mbp: partly - i had some N8x0 problems Jul 21 09:15:47 so it's not out just yet Jul 21 09:16:54 wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Releases/0.15 to dl .. there's a wide range of known issues though, but we had to do a snapshot release now to get things out Jul 21 09:17:04 and then we'll spend most of 0.16 sprint to fix stuff Jul 21 09:18:01 (yes, i didn't get around to fixing the shift button ..) Jul 21 09:26:09 moo all. Jul 21 09:27:57 moo Jul 21 11:11:35 wtf Jul 21 11:11:54 hm Jul 21 12:23:01 Report: iPhone Leak Interrogations Drive Foxconn Employee to Suicide! Jul 21 12:23:09 -1. Jul 21 13:33:02 hey, i've an ARM7 LPC2378 (http://yhst-27389313707334.stores.yahoo.net/arlpwi2tftto.html) someone knows if maemo it's work on LPC2378? Jul 21 13:33:34 No. Jul 21 13:33:39 No ARM7s, sorry Jul 21 13:33:55 if(is.opera) { window.location.href="config/error.htm"; Jul 21 13:34:34 brankinhu: wiki.maemo.org/Mer might be of interest Jul 21 13:34:37 Cthulhu was feasting on some Norvegian brain matter, it seems... Jul 21 13:34:42 ah Jul 21 13:34:49 arm7, not armv7 Jul 21 13:34:51 Sts: Mer won't run either Jul 21 13:34:57 Sts: No MMU. Jul 21 13:35:31 RST38h: aye, you're right Jul 21 13:53:49 RST38h: yeah that opera story is so FAIL. Jul 21 13:57:03 hah Jul 21 14:31:54 qwerty12_N810: tried out the compcache yet? Jul 21 14:33:10 Nah, looking at the readme and it mentions its own tools, so I'm thinking of building it myself later Jul 21 15:17:48 cool, good to know that people are still interested in it :) Jul 21 16:41:02 fiferboy: I fixed the flicker bug. Jul 21 16:41:08 fiferboy: I had my proxy code in the wrong place. Jul 21 16:48:03 coldboot: Nice! So now only a proxy widget is converted to x11 native? Jul 21 16:48:19 Yep, which is the top-level nativeParentWidget. Jul 21 16:48:24 I have a merge request submitted. Jul 21 16:49:07 http://qt.gitorious.org/~nhooey/qt/nhooey-qt-maemo-bugfixes/commit/72ec52f8cae6264a8ca971a1cb3e8f01b85af106 Jul 21 16:49:08 coldboot: That's awesome. That means there shouldn't be flicker even on widgets that accept input, correct? Jul 21 16:50:12 fiferboy: Yep, all flicker is gone completely. Jul 21 16:50:28 coldboot: Very sweet Jul 21 16:50:39 There is no more conversion to native X windows. Jul 21 16:50:47 Antonio is on vacation right now, I think, so it might be a while before it gets merged Jul 21 16:50:56 That's cool. Jul 21 16:52:32 Have you tested in in 4.5.0 as well? Jul 21 16:53:37 fiferboy: Well, that's the only place I tested it. Jul 21 16:53:46 fiferboy: If you could test it on 4.5.2 that would be great. Jul 21 16:54:02 coldboot: Sure, I can do that Jul 21 16:54:07 Cool, thanks. Jul 21 16:54:12 No problem Jul 21 16:58:07 ehlo all Jul 21 16:59:07 i just had my ears wiped out Jul 21 16:59:10 hi rstr Jul 21 16:59:42 ice cream van parked right under my open window, and started its chimes. i think i am deaf Jul 21 17:00:05 heya lcuk Jul 21 17:00:09 You guys must have some serious ice cream vans over there... Jul 21 17:00:35 lcuk: Parking an ice cream van in an neighbourhood at 6am is a good way to check for illegal concealed weapons Jul 21 17:01:06 RST38h: What? Jul 21 17:01:25 coldboot: nevermind. Jul 21 17:02:17 fiferboy: It at least builds fine in 4.5.2 Jul 21 17:02:39 I'm just going to fetch your branch and test it on my device Jul 21 17:03:33 RST38h, my missus is deaf too, she practically fell off the chair Jul 21 17:03:50 and yeah, if she had a rifle she wouldv been out there with it Jul 21 17:03:51 lol Jul 21 17:04:54 lcuk: Who wouldn't? =) Jul 21 17:09:43 Hi Jul 21 17:10:21 slonopotamus: Hi Jul 21 17:10:37 johnsq, hi there Jul 21 17:12:52 Is superuser.com still in beta? Jul 21 17:32:48 coldboot: I compiled and copied the library over to my device, but I get a segfault Jul 21 17:33:04 ah shit Jul 21 17:33:10 I'm going to try it on a completely clean build, as I may have had some crap in my hildon-input-method branch Jul 21 17:33:17 ok cool Jul 21 17:33:19 Don't panic yet, it may be my fault Jul 21 17:38:54 fiferboy: It segfaults on mine, too... Jul 21 17:39:17 fiferboy: I must have changed something since I last tested it.. Jul 21 17:40:32 I got it Jul 21 17:41:39 maybe not Jul 21 17:59:16 coldboot: What changes have you made recently? Jul 21 18:02:37 fiferboy: I just forgot to check for a null, testing now. Jul 21 18:02:53 I was moving code around between the svn and git version, and deleted a line by accident. Jul 21 18:03:37 You use the SVN version as your base because it is in extras? Jul 21 18:16:39 fiferboy: Okay it's working now, merge again with me. Jul 21 18:17:08 kinky Jul 21 18:17:16 coldboot: Will do Jul 21 18:20:14 is it just me or is talk.maemo.org deadly slow today? :P Jul 21 18:20:37 same here Jul 21 18:35:53 /win 24 Jul 21 18:43:57 doesn't get to the progress bar Jul 21 18:46:20 redoing the partition and trying the image again Jul 21 18:55:11 coldboot: That lastest fix does it Jul 21 18:55:36 Your solution looks good, no flicker, HIM still works fine from what I can see Jul 21 18:59:10 Excellent. Jul 21 18:59:30 Is that last change included in the current merge request? Jul 21 18:59:43 coldboot: Or will you remove that one and send another with the correction? Jul 21 19:01:11 I deleted the last one. Jul 21 19:01:27 Because I didn't want anyone accepting it while I was working on the fix. Jul 21 19:01:40 I also squashed my commits into one, so you only see the working one. Jul 21 19:01:44 I like a clean history. Jul 21 19:02:45 fiferboy: Hey is superuser.com still in beta? Jul 21 19:03:19 coldboot: I will comment on your merge request Jul 21 19:03:35 coldboot: It says it is. What is it? Jul 21 19:09:01 nice design there coldboot very elegant ;) Jul 21 19:10:47 coldboot: proxy widget WAS a good idea Jul 21 19:10:52 I'd suggest some extra text in the description though; something to the effect that this is only expected to be set on toplevel windows as these will always be native Jul 21 19:14:05 lbt: Can you confirm something with the old HIM code? Do you have a Qt maemo install handy? Jul 21 19:14:41 I have a very old install on diablo Jul 21 19:15:17 lbt: When the keyboard pops up after clicking on an input widget, does it automatically pop down when clicking on a non-input widget? Jul 21 19:15:39 ah, 4.5.2-1maemo1 Jul 21 19:16:17 sec, I have another install Jul 21 19:16:53 4.5.2 is fine, I meant before the HIM changes, sorry Jul 21 19:17:09 Without coldboot's changes, that is Jul 21 19:18:06 no, the other install has no Qt on it (bare Diablo) Jul 21 19:18:09 sorry Jul 21 19:21:56 lbt: Thanks! Jul 21 19:22:13 Just ate free cake at work. Jul 21 19:22:24 superuser.com, stackoverflow.com and serverfault.com are question sites. Jul 21 19:22:34 They're all made by Joel on Software and Jeff Atwood, and some other dudes. Jul 21 19:22:53 nice Jul 21 19:22:56 It eliminates the "too many morons replying to the stupid long thread from 800 years ago" problem of asking questions about programming or software. Jul 21 19:23:01 superuser looks identical to stackoverflow Jul 21 19:23:13 im quite fond of stackoverflow Jul 21 19:23:28 Stackoverflow.com is for programming, Serverfault.com is for IT stuff, and Superuser.com is for user questions about software. For example, ATI's stupid crap driver questions would be superuser.com Jul 21 19:23:35 oic Jul 21 19:23:52 coldboot: Do you know if the on-screen keyboard would automatically pop down when a non-input widget was clicked before you made your changes? Jul 21 19:24:01 fiferboy: I can revert 4.5.0 and check. Jul 21 19:24:21 And there is still no KillAllHumans.com ? Jul 21 19:24:23 Weird Jul 21 19:24:34 coldboot: That was something I noticed after my one-line change, but couldn't remember the previous behaviour Jul 21 19:24:49 Ah there is! Jul 21 19:25:03 killallhumans.com is taken. Jul 21 19:27:08 there is some strange stuff there too, may be a viral campaign for some movie Jul 21 19:27:52 RST38h, there's a flash clicking game at killeveryone.com I think. Jul 21 19:28:21 GAN: There is Barrage for the tablet, so I am all set :) Jul 21 19:31:19 fiferboy: Yeah the keyboard goes away when you click a dropdown menu after having been in a text lineedit. Jul 21 19:32:07 coldboot: That's what I suspected. Somehow the "close" signal is no longer being sent on non-input widgets Jul 21 19:32:22 fiferboy: In my fix? Jul 21 19:32:29 shit Jul 21 19:36:38 coldboot: Maybe because you remove the proxy widget on HILDON_IM_HIDE before the command gets sent? Jul 21 19:36:56 fiferboy: That's probably it... Jul 21 19:37:07 has anyone ever tried wiring up a power adapter straight to the battery contacts on an n810 Jul 21 19:37:12 fiferboy: I guess I need to remove the proxy after that message is received. Jul 21 19:37:37 coldboot: It looks like that would work Jul 21 19:38:35 jhford, whilst you are trying, i'll phone for ambulance and fire brigade Jul 21 19:38:43 where abouts do you live/ Jul 21 19:39:18 bay area :) Jul 21 19:40:00 what are the laws in your area regarding IEDs? Jul 21 19:40:19 :P Jul 21 19:40:28 i would use the same power as a battery obviously Jul 21 19:40:29 fiferboy: do you know where the message is received? Jul 21 19:41:11 jhford, the battery terminals on the n810 are bidirectional Jul 21 19:41:13 coldboot: The HILDON_IM_HIDE? I assume somewhere in the hildon-input-method code, but I haven't looked through it Jul 21 19:41:17 jhford: IIRC the normal power adaptors can't provide enough current to run the tablet. Jul 21 19:41:55 plus the voltage variation is measured to detect battery characteristics Jul 21 19:42:00 right, but what i want to do is find a power supply that does 1.5mAh at 3.7v (Battery level) and solder it to the battery contacts Jul 21 19:42:11 go for it Jul 21 19:42:14 i don't care about what the charge level says Jul 21 19:42:20 why not just leave the battery in and use a normal nokia charger? Jul 21 19:42:27 do i need to do anything special for the third pin on the back? Jul 21 19:42:33 i know its more "sane" Jul 21 19:42:51 lcuk: i am doing automated unit tests and have to reboot after each run. the device doesn't start cleanly with the AC plugged in Jul 21 19:42:52 jhford: you want to stand as far away from your contraption as possible Jul 21 19:43:06 then you are doing something even more wrong Jul 21 19:43:13 uhh, no Jul 21 19:43:16 why not have your console for your unit tests call "reboot" Jul 21 19:43:29 Lithium based batteries are kinda fiery when they rupture Jul 21 19:43:37 he wont have the battery in Jul 21 19:43:41 RST38h: he won't have a battery in there Jul 21 19:43:41 cause when AC is plugged in, it doesn't come up cleanly, it does an endless reboot Jul 21 19:43:42 direct to mains transfer ;) Jul 21 19:43:50 i don Jul 21 19:43:59 t intend to plug a battery to a power adapter?!?!?! Jul 21 19:44:08 ah Jul 21 19:44:13 i was more wondering why there are three contacts on the battery Jul 21 19:44:18 jhford: the reboot cycle is wrong Jul 21 19:44:25 lbt: oh? Jul 21 19:44:31 jhford, if your device does not come back from reboot when its in the mains theres something wrong with the device Jul 21 19:44:33 (in a normal tablet with a battery installed etc) Jul 21 19:44:39 its a normal expected thing to do surely Jul 21 19:44:45 it does sometimes Jul 21 19:45:01 I have issues with mine when Diablo is on the SD card Jul 21 19:45:04 we have ~=20 of them and about 3-4 need manual resets daily Jul 21 19:45:11 flash-based diablo is fine Jul 21 19:45:26 but if the battery is low then SD diablo won't boot Jul 21 19:45:29 weird stuff Jul 21 19:46:09 there are some PDF specs floating around that may give more info on the 3rd pin Jul 21 19:46:17 I think it's a sensor Jul 21 19:46:19 jhford, so let me get this straight, you want to wire up a whole cluster of tablets to mains instead of battery power Jul 21 19:46:25 lcuk: yes Jul 21 19:46:25 a clusterbomb of sorts Jul 21 19:46:41 lcuk: 3.7v@1.5Ah is not a cluster bomb :P Jul 21 19:46:47 *20 is Jul 21 19:47:11 lbt: you wouldn't happen to have a link to the pdf would you? Jul 21 19:47:24 sorry Jul 21 19:47:34 don't even recall the google magic to find it Jul 21 19:47:39 i wonder if the device would work with nothing done to the third pin Jul 21 19:47:47 fiferboy: There doesn't seem to be a place where HILDON_IM_HIDE is specifically received. Jul 21 19:49:44 coldboot: In the hildon-input-method code outside of Qt? Jul 21 19:49:47 jhford: http://qwerty12.qole.org/q12_patch_writable_bootreason.diff (kernel patch) (excuse the shitty code, C isn't one of my specialities, kernel programming less so) and http://pastebin.com/f22deb603 in /mnt/initfs/linuxrc lets the tablet startup normally with the charger in Jul 21 19:49:50 coldboot: Or within Qt? Jul 21 19:50:38 o_O as usual qwerty, you come with a solution that might actually save lives! Jul 21 19:50:45 qwerty12_N810: awesome! Jul 21 19:52:10 jhford: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3144 Jul 21 19:52:18 (normally == runlevel 2 and dsme thinking it's been booted by holding the power key, and not from the power adapter) Jul 21 19:52:43 jhford: also https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3300 Jul 21 19:56:53 fiferboy: Found it, fixing it now. Jul 21 19:57:42 coldboot: Awesome Jul 21 20:03:11 jhford, the middle pin is connected to a simple resistor to indicate battery capacity Jul 21 20:04:44 3.6 - 4.2V should be fine. The charger puts out >6V though, so don't use that. Jul 21 20:07:13 nope, not fine Jul 21 20:07:32 someone put in a 911 call to the bay area ;) Jul 21 20:10:03 He's not using the battery, so the most he'll do is fry his N810 :-) Jul 21 20:12:25 what media player do people use Jul 21 20:12:40 and are there any that will remotely control one on my windows machine Jul 21 20:13:09 vlc with telnet interface :) Jul 21 20:13:18 (I have a video remote, but thats specific and limited) i am thinking something tied to the player itself and shows/allows selection of music Jul 21 20:13:53 till-, i gather the remote interface oculd be processed Jul 21 20:13:57 thats not such a bad idea.. Jul 21 20:14:24 I once hooked up the IR receiver led from a vcr to line-in on a soundcard Jul 21 20:14:46 And? Jul 21 20:14:52 and wrote decoder for it to use the dead vcr's remote to control mplayer and xmms on my computer Jul 21 20:14:59 yeah, thats possible, as a remote sender as well Jul 21 20:15:12 Ah Jul 21 20:15:18 all it needs is oscilliscope and wav cutter/playback Jul 21 20:15:21 cunning Jul 21 20:15:47 someone in here made one for their n810 i think Jul 21 20:15:47 lcuk: I wrote a lirc -> wav convertor Jul 21 20:16:39 try winlirc Jul 21 20:16:48 stereo connector and 2 ir-leds are enough, nice 9m range. Jul 21 20:18:31 about halfway through making my software, I discovered LIRC had code to support the same contraption. it proved easier to finish my own software hacks than to figure out how to make lirc compile :) Jul 21 20:21:42 * ShadowJK unboxes new earphones :D Jul 21 20:27:40 ShadowJK: shiny.. with mic? if so got link? Jul 21 20:29:04 earphones? no mic Jul 21 20:29:12 remote control receiver? no microphones involved Jul 21 20:33:07 Creative EP-630 Jul 21 20:36:52 Do you guys know how to update a merge request? Jul 21 20:36:57 On Gitorious. Jul 21 20:38:42 coldboot no ... http://blog.gitorious.org/2009/07/15/new-merge-request-functionality/ Jul 21 20:39:21 git push git@gitorious.org: master:refs/merge-requests/892 Jul 21 20:39:26 so yes Jul 21 20:39:42 ah nice Jul 21 20:56:21 coldboot... re function Jul 21 20:56:27 (method!) Jul 21 20:57:46 heh Jul 21 20:58:16 :) Jul 21 20:58:58 QWidget? Jul 21 20:59:13 how is it called?# Jul 21 21:04:56 lbt: Here: http://qt.gitorious.org/~nhooey/qt/nhooey-qt-maemo-bugfixes/commit/54dfbffa83158e4c10c8b843be97efdee1f29fa2 Jul 21 21:05:29 Search for clearHIMProxyIfHidden Jul 21 21:05:37 johan said something in #gitorious too Jul 21 21:06:31 Yeah I noticed, I'll try it in a sec when I fix this. Jul 21 21:06:37 Oh man this has been a while. Jul 21 21:22:56 lbt: I don't think qwidget.cpp can include anything from src/gui ... Jul 21 21:24:43 OK, I think the pattern here is to make clearHIMProxyIfHidden a socket Jul 21 21:24:59 A socket? Jul 21 21:25:07 slot Jul 21 21:25:19 ah ok Jul 21 21:25:21