**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 27 02:59:57 2011 Jan 27 03:07:13 Robbie: Been hardware hacking, eh? Jan 27 03:07:25 MrBawb: GitHub sucks Jan 27 03:07:26 Yup Jan 27 03:08:27 My RTC battery basically died, so I replaced it with a special capacitor. I managed to break one of the pads, and had to run a jumper to a different location on the other side of the board Jan 27 03:09:40 Make sure you note that info down, yeah? XD Jan 27 03:10:20 robbie how is the capacitor holding up? Jan 27 03:11:15 I'm gonna have to test; I know it works for the 10s I tested it for. Jan 27 03:12:11 Lets try for one minute... Now that it's had a chance to charge and all(remember the charger is looking for a lithium-battery, so I don't know how fast it'll charge) Jan 27 03:13:28 It worked. Jan 27 03:19:40 WOMEN Jan 27 03:19:41 SPEND MONEY Jan 27 03:19:43 ON MAKEUP Jan 27 03:25:01 RobbieThe1st: congrats Jan 27 03:25:06 Oh gees; whats the name of the package that has mkfs.ubifs and ubinize in it? Jan 27 03:25:11 DocScrutinizer: Thanks. Jan 27 03:29:03 well i knew some people in the netherlands info sec dept Jan 27 03:29:16 they had a product for securing their networks Jan 27 03:29:18 (ubifs) NFC. Seems it's unknown to maemo and even my desktop linux Jan 27 03:32:32 DocScrutinizer: Um...? What I know is that I have mkfs.ubifs and ubinize installed on my n900 through -some- package, but I can't figure out which one it was. Jan 27 03:33:03 hmm Jan 27 03:33:20 strange, apt-cache search didn't find anything Jan 27 03:33:50 Hey Doc. Jan 27 03:35:18 Has anyone worked out a way to update java on the 900 yet? Jan 27 03:35:44 CableTwitch: Update flash, you mean? Jan 27 03:36:15 Unless Java somehow magically became an Adobe product, nope XD Jan 27 03:36:27 CableTwitch: N900 has never had any kind of Java Jan 27 03:36:38 ^^ Jan 27 03:36:49 Ok, that explains that. Jan 27 03:37:10 DocScrutinizer: I know it depends on liblzo; can I get a list of all packages that depend on that? Jan 27 03:37:40 That also explains why my NAS box kept on at me to update java, and doesnt work properly. Jan 27 03:39:11 Note that you can get command-line desktop java on there(install icedtea6), but no browser plugin. Jan 27 03:40:06 Oh, there we go. It's mtd-utils. Jan 27 03:40:41 "apt-get remove liblzo2-2"; only package that'd get removed other than itself is mtd-utils. :P Jan 27 03:55:38 lol the cunts Jan 27 03:57:04 Eh? Jan 27 03:58:27 cunts Jan 27 04:01:41 can we say non sequitur Jan 27 04:21:56 Hello. I've not been in chat rooms much, so I'm not sure how to do things or act. Hope I don't torture anybody. Please be gentle with me. I just bought a used nokia n800 tablet. I don't know a lot about it. I am hoping to be able to download movies and tv shows to my pc and then transfer them to my tablet. Can anyone tell me the best and easiet ways to do that? Jan 27 04:22:38 yes, you can. Jan 27 04:22:48 in principle, though I've not used a n800 Jan 27 04:22:54 - have you loolked at the wiki a bit? Jan 27 04:23:33 http://wiki.maemo.org/Nokia_N800 Jan 27 04:24:20 http://wiki.maemo.org/Category:N8x0 seems to be the main article Jan 27 04:24:48 SpeedEvil do u mean the maemo with downloads site. I've visited there briefly. Oh I don't think I've been there. I'll check it out. Jan 27 04:26:12 How does this chat work? Are all those nicks listed on the right here now? Will I be able to see what everyone is talking about? That's a long list. Jan 27 04:26:17 http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Nokia_N800_Tablet_PDA also Jan 27 04:26:30 There is nobody else talking tight now. Jan 27 04:26:53 it's a rather dead time at the moment - it tends to be more active evenings us and EU Jan 27 04:27:23 Yea Jan 27 04:27:45 So what's with all the names on the right. How do I know who's here? Jan 27 04:28:03 All those people have their computers on and their clients running. Jan 27 04:28:16 But the people themselves may not be at their computer, or looking elsewhere Jan 27 04:28:31 Sorry for my ignorance. What are clients? Jan 27 04:29:15 IRC clients, software similar to what you're using now Jan 27 04:29:15 A program that connects you to the IRC(chat) server. Jan 27 04:29:18 Yea Jan 27 04:29:47 So how do we know who is here, just ask? Jan 27 04:29:51 yes Jan 27 04:30:10 or just as a question Jan 27 04:30:14 ask* Jan 27 04:30:51 In addition, if you know who to talk to, some people may be around but not looking at the chat all the time - Saying someones name -may- get their attention Jan 27 04:31:07 For me, whenever someone says my name, I hear a "beep" noise. Jan 27 04:31:12 People wait till they find a question they can answer, or something that annoys them, or until they have a funny picture of a cat, and post it. Though they'll usually just have the tab open so they can look back at what's happeed while they weren't looking - get messages, ... Jan 27 04:32:48 ok. I'm gonna leave this up but go check out those web sites you gave me. I hope someone is still here if I come back. Thank you SpeedEvil. Jan 27 04:34:21 RobbieThe1st Jan 27 04:34:48 No reason, just wanted to make it beep :O) Jan 27 04:35:04 ? Jan 27 04:35:08 meh. Jan 27 04:35:11 Beep. Jan 27 04:35:28 * CableTwitch is in a slightly deranged mood. Jan 27 04:36:17 Yea, I can see that. Jan 27 04:36:20 Guest61840: Good luck. Jan 27 04:36:33 RobbieThe1st beep. Jan 27 04:37:30 ooooooh, My computer just beeped and then I clicked here and somebody said something to me. So ooooh I get a beep too. Jan 27 04:37:33 Seems I'm not the only deranged one this morning XD Jan 27 04:38:24 Guest61840: Generally picking a more personal nickname will help people remember you if you come back. Jan 27 04:39:47 I was just at http://wiki.maemo.org/Nokia_N800. the search didn't like what I put in. The answers I got for video were too many and confusing. OK let me think of a nick. How do I get it assigned to me? Jan 27 04:41:00 Type /nick *whatyouwant* Jan 27 04:41:01 Eg. /nick Cabletwitch Jan 27 04:41:01 But not MY nick, obviously :O) Jan 27 04:42:10 Anyone know how you could enable autocaps inxchat? Jan 27 04:42:30 *whatyouwant* Jan 27 04:42:44 Not quite. Jan 27 04:42:45 wait Jan 27 04:42:52 Look at my example. Jan 27 04:43:13 nick *gretchen* Jan 27 04:43:38 You dont need the asterisks, and you DO need the preceeding / Jan 27 04:44:02 So, if I wanted to change my nick to Jimbob, I'd type /nick Jimbob Jan 27 04:44:36 If you want to use Gretchen, then you'd type /nick Gretchen Jan 27 04:44:44 thanks Jan 27 04:45:05 There you go :O) Jan 27 04:45:28 ha!... I'm slow Jan 27 04:45:37 hi gretchen Jan 27 04:45:43 Eh, we all are at the beginning. Jan 27 04:45:50 Hi everyone. Jan 27 04:46:30 And hi to you, too Jan 27 04:46:56 So does anybody feel like giving me some search word suggestions so I can transfer videos from my pc to my new and exiting n800 tabet? Jan 27 04:47:02 gretchen: a short introduction to asking questions: Jan 27 04:47:04 ~ask Jan 27 04:47:05 Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. Jan 27 04:47:13 and Jan 27 04:47:17 ~question Jan 27 04:47:17 hmm... question is If you have a question and want people to give useful answers, make sure you have read this first: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Jan 27 04:47:31 gretchen: also lok at the /topic Jan 27 04:47:34 lool* Jan 27 04:47:39 meh! Jan 27 04:47:41 look* Jan 27 04:47:48 Been on the booze, doc? ;O) Jan 27 04:47:52 nah Jan 27 04:47:58 too late, or early Jan 27 04:48:01 or whatever Jan 27 04:48:32 gretchen: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Nokia_N800_Tablet_PDA - has some more details - I've not looked beyond a cursory search. Try n800 transcode video Jan 27 04:48:46 Drunk is easier to explain though. Jan 27 04:49:16 gretchen: some mire IRC specific stuff that may help you: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml Jan 27 04:49:24 more* Jan 27 04:49:27 damnit Jan 27 04:49:32 Yeah, drunk XD Jan 27 04:49:53 nope, sick Jan 27 04:50:00 Speevil. Jan 27 04:50:21 Ahh, flu? Jan 27 04:50:31 yep Jan 27 04:50:42 Swine, avian, or normal? Jan 27 04:50:50 just a cold Jan 27 04:50:56 I hope Jan 27 04:50:58 Manflu, gotcha. Jan 27 04:53:01 gretchen: you probably want to register your nick Jan 27 04:53:21 Just while I'm not on a decent enough connection, did the USB hostmode ever become reliable? Jan 27 04:53:23 /msg nickserv help register Jan 27 04:54:19 Just don't forget your password like I did. Jan 27 04:54:24 LOL Jan 27 04:54:28 <-- Retars Jan 27 04:54:32 <-- Retard Jan 27 04:54:37 drunk? Jan 27 04:54:43 Shaddap XD Jan 27 04:55:29 I'd prefer to be drunk. But alas, gone are the days when you could drive trains after a few beers. Jan 27 04:56:05 yeah, nowadays trains will drive you Jan 27 04:56:15 How do I do that DocScrutinizer? Oh ok. I just type that /msg nickserv help register. Is a password then assigned to me? I have just started reading the page about questions. Jan 27 04:56:21 drunk is self-destruction Jan 27 04:56:40 you only notice it after the damage is done Jan 27 04:57:33 Drunk is a railway speciality. Its what happens when you have to wait ages to have a drink. Jan 27 04:57:34 gretchen: no, you need to follow the instructions that nickserv gave you when typing /msg nickserv help register Jan 27 04:58:00 I blame the D'n'A testing. Prior to that, no-one got drunk on duty. Jan 27 04:58:11 people drink when they feel helpless Jan 27 04:58:17 government enslaves people Jan 27 04:58:23 so fight slavery Jan 27 04:58:32 with your fists, or your code Jan 27 04:58:54 It says to follow instructions sent to my email address, but I didn't give it my address. Jan 27 04:58:56 Whatnow? Jan 27 04:59:15 do it again, using your proper email-addr Jan 27 04:59:17 Gretchen: Yeah, you're supposed to give it your address. Jan 27 04:59:17 bombs are really bad style nowadays Jan 27 04:59:24 but holy hell they are fun Jan 27 04:59:53 I don't get it. What do I type and when? Jan 27 05:00:18 everyone here should have bomb-making experience Jan 27 05:00:18 gretchen: right now type sth like /msg NickServ REGISTER bar foo@bar.com Jan 27 05:00:19 I'll go PM with Gretch, Doc. Jan 27 05:00:29 k Jan 27 05:00:31 everyone in #maemo should be able to make a bomb Jan 27 05:00:38 if they want to Jan 27 05:00:50 ~nuke pupnik Jan 27 05:00:51 * infobot prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at pupnik ... B☢☢M! Jan 27 05:01:20 best used on structures Jan 27 05:01:26 Gretchen, you should have another tab appear with my nick on it. You see it? Jan 27 05:02:26 DocScrutinizer: i had a math teacher who used to go to junkyards with dynamite Jan 27 05:02:29 speaking of which, is there a decent clone of Scorch earth for the N900? :D Jan 27 05:02:35 everybody should learn how to blow up shit Jan 27 05:03:44 it's just chemistry Jan 27 05:04:25 yeah, all the idiots who learn how to blow up themselves by producing apex for fun Jan 27 05:08:08 I'd rather make useful stuff, tbh. Jan 27 05:08:31 Explosives are for those with no imagination, and/or a deathwish. Jan 27 05:09:08 hmm, whatever it's been, I stopped that at the age of 16 Jan 27 05:09:39 and I never touched crazy shit like apex Jan 27 05:11:08 except for silvester fireworks :-) Jan 27 05:13:41 with 16 I switched to forkbombs ;-D Jan 27 05:17:07 explosives are tools like cars CableTwitch Jan 27 05:17:25 you can also drive a car at high speed into people Jan 27 05:17:42 Why would you want to? Jan 27 05:17:45 poison is much better Jan 27 05:18:02 drop a few milligrams into someone's food Jan 27 05:18:05 and person is gone Jan 27 05:18:24 I wasn't aware you could IRC from Broadmoore. Jan 27 05:18:52 i'm just talking about the LOL in the daily life CableTwitch Jan 27 05:19:02 do you think this doesn't happen? :) Jan 27 05:19:15 Not in Guildford, it doesnt. Jan 27 05:19:34 where the heck is that Jan 27 05:20:01 look you idiots Jan 27 05:20:22 don't you think maemo is an affront to people who want to monitor and control people? Jan 27 05:20:27 it is a revolution Jan 27 05:20:30 it is a fight Jan 27 05:20:37 you dumb asses Jan 27 05:20:52 it is the ability to control your computer Jan 27 05:21:14 how fucktarded are you??? Jan 27 05:21:28 Ok, I was wrong. Its not Doc thats drunk, its you. Jan 27 05:21:44 durr Jan 27 05:21:45 pupnik, sadly, i like this all the time. Jan 27 05:21:47 *is Jan 27 05:22:03 derf, i know, a lot of us need to work for the military Jan 27 05:22:27 but do what you can to promote freedom Jan 27 05:22:41 Oh right... wait, isnt the military government forces? How ironic... Jan 27 05:22:59 CableTwitch: you are 23 years old or less Jan 27 05:23:08 shut the fuck up and listen Jan 27 05:23:21 .... Jan 27 05:23:30 I'm 30 next month. Your call. Jan 27 05:23:32 pupnik are you drunk? Jan 27 05:23:48 CableTwitch: then you're stupid Jan 27 05:23:55 No, far from it. Jan 27 05:24:07 sorry, no insult please Jan 27 05:24:08 I'm just not wholly irrational and paranoid. Jan 27 05:26:41 derf: How do you guys put up with that? :O) Jan 27 05:27:13 crashanddie: pupnik decided to take a forced 6h outtime Jan 27 05:27:57 Autocomplete problem? Jan 27 05:28:05 I'm Cabletwitch ;O) Jan 27 05:28:28 and crashanddie is chanop like me, but more likely to be awake in now+6h Jan 27 05:28:58 Ahh, righto. I dont have the userlist displayed when I'm on the 900 Jan 27 05:31:01 There we go, wifi now. Jan 27 05:34:07 Aaand showertime! Jan 27 05:47:16 Aaand back Jan 27 05:59:53 meh, friggin DSL-DHCP Jan 27 06:20:03 Is CableTwitch here? Jan 27 06:22:17 I just realised my n900 has close to a dozen microprocessors in it. Jan 27 06:23:17 Main ARM, DSP, bluetooth, wifi, SIM, SD card, emmc, wifi, bluetooth, LED controller, modem front and back end. Jan 27 06:23:36 That's not even counting the GPU Jan 27 06:23:59 Or some of the graphics processors that I suspect could be counted but I haven't read enough on them. Jan 27 06:24:34 I'm here, just about. Jan 27 06:29:51 gretchen: ^ Jan 27 06:30:44 Hi SpeedEvil. Hi CableTwitch. I'm way out of league here. I found some information on n800 after doing a google search. Some is outdated like Internet Tablet School. I'm 53 years old. I've got fibromyalgia and therefore have fibrofog so I'm slow. I have no knowledge of programming, and haven't used comnputers much. Any recomendations for online beginning info? Jan 27 06:30:52 SpeedEvil: gmeter, ALS Jan 27 06:31:07 gmeter is probably not stored program. Jan 27 06:31:40 it's a stored program, just you can't update it via I2C Jan 27 06:32:00 it seems you can destroy it though Jan 27 06:32:01 :-P Jan 27 06:32:02 gretchen: What OS do you normally run on the desktop? Jan 27 06:32:08 Hmm, for the N800? I'm not too sure myself, I use the N900. Ask around a bit more in here in a few hours time or so, I'm pretty sure there will be more knowledgable people then myself who can answer any queries you have. Jan 27 06:32:37 SpeedEvil will know more than me, I'm fairly sure ;O) Jan 27 06:32:52 I know almosrt nothing on the n800 Jan 27 06:32:58 SpeedEvil, do you mean on my pc or n800? Jan 27 06:33:05 I saw an n700 once, that doesn't really cout though Jan 27 06:33:08 gretchen: pc Jan 27 06:33:17 Speed: Almost nothing is still more than absolutly nothing ;O) Jan 27 06:33:19 windows xp Jan 27 06:33:40 CableTwitch: use tab expansion! Jan 27 06:34:10 err, nick completion Jan 27 06:34:44 Forwhy? People here not like shortened nicks? Jan 27 06:35:02 CableTwitch: no, but their client won't highlight Jan 27 06:35:03 SpeedEvil for example is more likely to have a highlight on foobarevil rather than speed Jan 27 06:35:08 CableTwitch: more convinient to have the full nick Jan 27 06:35:18 Bah, you're all awkward XD Jan 27 06:35:32 CableTwitch: bingo! Jan 27 06:35:34 Maybe its only me that has highlight on all variations I can think of. Jan 27 06:35:40 CableTwitch: we love the N900 what else can we be? Jan 27 06:35:53 chx: Touché Jan 27 06:36:12 SpeedEvil: don't you think it's funny to talk about usb cable when he's around? Jan 27 06:36:50 cble for usb is awesome :-P Jan 27 06:36:55 cable for usb is awesome :-P Jan 27 06:36:57 meh Jan 27 06:37:45 When and where are you guys? What time is it there? It's 10:33pm here. I'm on the pacific west coast of the U.S. I'm gonna go lie down soon. Where's a good place to ask newbie questions? What's a good time to check back? Jan 27 06:37:51 CableTwitch: that's what tab nick completion is meant for, what's so hard to use it? Jan 27 06:38:11 7:37 AM Jan 27 06:39:06 good time here in this chan is maybe from now+2h to now+18h Jan 27 06:39:17 gretchen: it tends to be quite active mid-afternoon for you Jan 27 06:39:28 gretchen: say 3-10pm? Jan 27 06:40:58 Doc: Well, for instance, I type Doc, and it completes to dockane Jan 27 06:41:21 And its easier typing 'Doc' ;O) Jan 27 06:41:32 pff, then type docs, or hit tab until it shows DocScrutinizer51 or DocScrutinizer Jan 27 06:41:42 That, and I'm not used to using nick completion yet. Jan 27 06:41:53 OK That's a 9 hour difference. OK thanks. I need to do some beginning research. Later. Bye. Jan 27 06:41:57 Its not part of my typing habits. Jan 27 06:42:06 gretchen: cya Jan 27 06:42:09 gretchen: Good luck, and see you around! Jan 27 06:42:43 I think I'm going to hit the sack too, its 6:41am, and I need to be up at 3. Jan 27 06:43:54 CableTwitch: my irc client even re-inserts the recently used nick, when tab'ed on empty line. That's for sure more convenient than typing doc: which doesn't help anything as it doesn't highlight here Jan 27 06:44:16 CableTwitch: see Jan 27 06:44:18 CableTwitch: what Jan 27 06:44:19 CableTwitch: i Jan 27 06:44:21 CableTwitch: mean Jan 27 06:45:10 Sure, I know. Mine also highlights on Cable, Twitch, CT and Bastard. Jan 27 06:45:31 Which does occasionally pick up random crap in conversation, but keeps me alert :O) Jan 27 06:45:46 sorry, no tab expansion on Bastard, so you'll have to live with me calling you CableTwitch Jan 27 06:46:04 Whatever works, I guess ;O) Jan 27 06:48:18 anyway, doc: is even ambiguous (as you noticed already), so you'll never again find me highlighting it Jan 27 06:48:53 DocScru, maybe? XD Jan 27 06:49:04 I'll try and remember to use tab complete when I'm here./ Jan 27 06:50:23 Anyhow, sleep for the useless sod now. Adios! Jan 27 06:50:52 don't dream of nasty cable snakes Jan 27 06:53:27 * DocScrutinizer off for chemical cocktail, with caffeine and milk Jan 27 06:54:01 add some whiskey Jan 27 06:54:14 ^.^ Jan 27 06:55:06 I'm not sure if that's exactly recommended by the chemicals' user manuals Jan 27 06:56:36 it's generally good advice though Jan 27 07:09:32 VLC vulnerability: http://www.videolan.org/security/sa1007.html Jan 27 07:10:08 Summary : Buffer overflow in Real demuxer Jan 27 07:11:13 Solution Jan 27 07:11:14 VLC media player 1.1.6 addresses this issue. Patches for older versions are available from the official VLC source code repositories. Jan 27 07:12:49 it's unlikely but not impossible to see an exploit tailored for ARM out in the wild Jan 27 07:13:09 Does the stock stack use VLC? Jan 27 07:13:15 npe Jan 27 07:13:20 not afaik Jan 27 07:14:40 so the situation isn't as nasty as it's been (and still is?) with flash-plugin Jan 27 07:16:08 and unlike flash we got source for VLC Jan 27 07:17:18 so little chances to bash Nokia all over the place, for not fixing a vulnerability that's documented and not fixable by community ;-) Jan 27 07:18:56 yeah, the stock uses gstreamer, and i don't believe even supports real Jan 27 07:19:39 I still like to find a website that spreads an evil flash-virus that implements keylogger and whatnot on my N900, then sue Nokia for the damage done and get compensation. Well, probably I have to code that maemo-flash-virus by myself :-) Jan 27 07:20:09 hmm o.O Jan 27 07:21:30 try writing something that just changes the root password, configures sshd to auto-start (assuming installed) Jan 27 07:21:58 and then of course notify you somehow Jan 27 07:22:05 :-D Jan 27 07:22:26 would be simpler to write methinks Jan 27 07:22:34 wait, I have a script for that collecting dust on some dark sectors of my HDD Jan 27 07:22:53 and you could then login and do whatever you wanted... keylogger, harvest imsi, dial non-free phone numbers Jan 27 07:23:13 yep Jan 27 07:24:14 but that's a bit harder to link to flash, in a provable way sufficient for a case at court Jan 27 07:25:20 so my chances to sue Nokia for compensation for that $500.000 somebody booked off my bank account are a bit smaller Jan 27 07:25:55 erm??? Jan 27 07:26:16 * ieatlint wishes he had $500k in a bank account to be stolen Jan 27 07:26:53 yeah, I started to feel that's a point in my idea not well thought Jan 27 07:29:47 well, the virus could call a few 0900-LICK-MY-BOOTS numbers, and so my fiancee gave me a ticket to run and refused to marry me. I guess that's worth some compensation for damage done to my life Jan 27 07:30:20 there you go Jan 27 07:30:27 won't work for me, but i can come up with something else Jan 27 07:32:36 yeah, coming up with material or immaterial damage done by a virus that sneaked in cause Nokia didn't care about the known vulnerability, that's really easy Jan 27 07:33:06 although, the problem with that plan, is that your fiancee would actually have to leave you Jan 27 07:33:28 that's no problem, I just need to find one first :-P Jan 27 07:33:33 haha Jan 27 07:34:05 that's not too hard Jan 27 07:34:15 :nod: Jan 27 07:34:20 it's 8:30am there? just go to the bar, and ask any woman there... she should be desperate enough Jan 27 07:34:39 hehehe Jan 27 07:35:08 here, at 8:30am, even the bars are desperate Jan 27 07:35:15 I.E. closed Jan 27 07:35:20 or craigslist: "need fianc�e for scam" Jan 27 07:36:15 DocScrutinizer, how do you get xchat nick recompletion. some xchat setting? Jan 27 07:36:23 clearly you don't live in a place with enough alcoholics... 95% of bars are closed here at 8:30am, but that still leaves quite a few open Jan 27 07:36:57 trumee: xchat defaults to tab-completion Jan 27 07:36:57 well, I could reduce my estimated value of damage by 75%, if Nokia is going to release a fixed flash-plugin for maemo Jan 27 07:37:11 see the "interface-> input box" settings Jan 27 07:37:34 ieatlint, i have tab completion Jan 27 07:37:44 trumee: err, I got shift-space, it's set up in keybindings. Dunno if it's in default as shipped with xchat now Jan 27 07:38:13 DocScrutinizer, i thought you meant some sort of autocompletion Jan 27 07:38:14 ah Jan 27 07:39:22 xchat is painfully missing the tab-at-start-of-line repeating last nick Jan 27 07:39:28 [06:44] CableTwitch: my irc client even re-inserts the recently used nick, when tab'ed on empty line. That's for sure more convenient than typing doc: which doesn't help anything as it doesn't highlight here Jan 27 07:39:47 DocScrutinizer, what setting is that? Jan 27 07:39:56 trumee: you're free to ctcp version me Jan 27 07:40:10 trumee: see settings i referenced Jan 27 07:40:29 I'm using Konversation Jan 27 07:40:34 on my PC Jan 27 07:40:34 ieatlint, thanks Jan 27 07:40:36 there's a setting for order of tab completion, alphabetical vs last spoke order Jan 27 07:40:47 DocScrutinizer, not on N900? Jan 27 07:40:56 DocScrutinizer, got it Jan 27 07:41:02 nope, DocScrutinizer51 is on RX-51 Jan 27 07:41:06 won't work for an empty line, but will solve things like the multiple doc issue Jan 27 07:41:10 DocScrutinizer, even i do konversation on PC Jan 27 07:41:37 bbl guys Jan 27 07:48:35 self soldered cable Jan 27 07:49:09 http://pastebin.com/i4nAqdHZ Jan 27 07:50:07 its with a usb serial adapter in full speed hostmode Jan 27 07:52:00 after some time it detects it Jan 27 07:58:08 mhm Jan 27 07:59:12 * MohammadAG prefers one nick for all now Jan 27 07:59:26 that way i don't have to check both nick's PMs Jan 27 08:00:06 well, ZNC didn't play nice with Konversation plus xchat, for the ctcp Jan 27 08:05:25 sid_on: you're not by any chance bastibasti of http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=928798&postcount=682 Jan 27 08:05:29 ? Jan 27 08:06:19 any tips for 3G and battery life? Jan 27 08:07:12 have a spare battery? Jan 27 08:07:21 don't do it? Jan 27 08:07:23 :-D Jan 27 08:07:40 /dev/ttyUSB0 is created automatically; i already modprobe'd usbserial Jan 27 08:08:40 DocScrutinizer, besides the 4 batteries I have Jan 27 08:08:49 and no WLAN for two weeks :P Jan 27 08:09:09 wallcharger Jan 27 08:09:23 while on the go? :P Jan 27 08:09:45 oh well, then get a mobile mains outlet Jan 27 08:09:58 will buy one; its probably the cable Jan 27 08:41:10 moo all Jan 27 08:44:22 DocScrutinizer, no problem, he deserved it. Jan 27 08:49:20 Morning, all Jan 27 08:53:43 /join #pyqt Jan 27 08:57:36 * jonwil learnt 2 things about his N900 yesterday Jan 27 08:57:54 Yes? Jan 27 08:58:10 The first is that the speakers on the N900 are hard to hear when there are fireworks going off and you are trying to use the FM radio app :) Jan 27 08:58:24 BTW, does anyone know a good person to talk to about PyQT and tasktray icons? Jan 27 08:58:36 The second is that you shouldn't use the touchscreen just after eating some KFC Jan 27 08:58:37 jonwil: And the second? Jan 27 08:58:42 Ah, yea Jan 27 08:58:55 But, that's what cotton T-shirts are for. Jan 27 09:01:45 Tonight is going to be a "stay up past midnight drinking coca-cola and working on N900 stuff" night. Jan 27 09:03:42 jonwil: once you spill coca-cola on your n900 it is no longer happy. Jan 27 09:04:05 which is why I plan to keep the coca-cola and the N900 away from each other Jan 27 09:09:42 Sometimes phone application on N900 doesn't rotate when I rotating phone. Accelometer is working fine, it's some software error. Restarting N900 is helping, but I'd rather to restart only one app or daemon. Does anyone knows what to restart? Jan 27 09:24:53 * RST38h amusedly observes tmo people going bonkers about some obscure new linux distro Jan 27 09:26:37 tmo? Jan 27 09:34:56 sid_on, talk.maemo.org Jan 27 09:46:31 ~tmo Jan 27 09:46:31 from memory, tmo is http://talk.maemo.org, or too much off-topic, or not ~t-mo Jan 27 10:00:31 hey. i'm considering getting a n900 for some development and to use as an everyday phone. can anyone give me some battery lifetime estimates? Jan 27 10:01:46 Yea. Jan 27 10:04:24 lets say im running a small app that uses the GPS and sends my current position every minute or so over the 3G connection Jan 27 10:04:38 no other apps are active Jan 27 10:04:52 for how long do you think the n900 will survive? Jan 27 10:05:30 8-12hours Jan 27 10:06:03 more, especially if he does it the right way - i.e. switch off the GPS in those pauses Jan 27 10:07:04 plus the vast array of underclock/undervolting :) Jan 27 10:07:36 but I guess the real question is the 'everyday phone' part, that might be the dominant battery sucker Jan 27 10:10:54 ok, 8-12 hours sounds nice Jan 27 10:11:37 is it really viable to turn off the gps in between samples if samplerate is 1 / minute? won't it draw quite a lot power as it tries to fix satellites during init? Jan 27 10:12:14