**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Feb 24 02:59:57 2011 Feb 24 03:00:25 It said on my phone: Outcoming call vibration Feb 24 03:00:33 app? Feb 24 03:00:48 the coming-out app Feb 24 03:00:50 :D Feb 24 03:00:57 which app does it say likethat lolcat Feb 24 03:01:38 * HtheB renders another xmb video for better quality Feb 24 03:01:56 Why does the n900 suck so much? Feb 24 03:01:56 Not sure, I moved on in my search for neccecary apps Feb 24 03:02:04 Since the power kernel doesn't work Feb 24 03:02:18 Bomberman: Have you too installed the "Outcoming call vibration" app? Feb 24 03:02:26 duh, PK works 99.99% Feb 24 03:02:28 * javispedro grabs popcorn Feb 24 03:02:53 * DocScrutinizer cackles and gasps Feb 24 03:03:02 * javispedro makes loud popcorn eating noises while waiting for activity Feb 24 03:03:11 What? Just asking. Feb 24 03:03:16 Can I install webmin on the N900? Feb 24 03:03:26 * DocScrutinizer headdesks Feb 24 03:03:47 * nox- too Feb 24 03:03:53 I need a terminal where I can see the files logcially Feb 24 03:04:11 * DocScrutinizer suggests xterm & ls Feb 24 03:04:16 Judging by TMO the situation is not good Feb 24 03:04:25 or microb and file:// Feb 24 03:04:40 muHAAAAHAHAHAHA Feb 24 03:05:01 judging by TMO the world ended 1999 Feb 24 03:05:04 DocScrutinizer: I have this config file or something, and I want it to be on my computer, easiest way to do this? A webserver and a symlink perhaps? Feb 24 03:05:42 lolcat: that'S way to reasonable a suggestion for you. I'm not used to that Feb 24 03:05:44 I kinda dont blame Nokia for dropping maemo/meego, why are people so upset? Feb 24 03:05:53 lolcat: I find your choice of words interesting. Feb 24 03:05:58 but honestly, I guess sftp is simpler Feb 24 03:06:21 ahh now I get it. Feb 24 03:06:49 DocScrutinizer: I can't ssh to my phone apparently, I even changed my root password to something simpler Feb 24 03:07:08 lolcat: now that's sth we'd love to help you out Feb 24 03:07:27 lolcat: are you connected over wifi? Feb 24 03:07:29 lolcat: you gotta install bunch of shit from the repositories Feb 24 03:07:33 i mean, the SAME wifi Feb 24 03:07:56 Bomberman: Just got smsbomb, can't wait untill the day before I change subscription Feb 24 03:08:23 HtheB: I don't have a wifi, I use a D-Link DGS1224T to connect my laptop and ps3 to the internet Feb 24 03:08:30 Whats smsbomb? Feb 24 03:08:31 HtheB: I think we should teach this man about ssh :-o Feb 24 03:08:39 he's a terrorist Feb 24 03:08:45 DocScrutinizer: do you have your whip around you? Feb 24 03:08:49 >:D Feb 24 03:09:01 * DocScrutinizer ramps up the MTHELs Feb 24 03:09:15 what kind of a Bomberman are you, if you dont know smsbomb Feb 24 03:09:19 (how ironic) Feb 24 03:09:22 My ip is: 77.17.161.255? Feb 24 03:09:28 Isn't that a broadcast adress? Feb 24 03:09:33 ok, everybody attack to lolcat Feb 24 03:09:42 lolcat: yeah, actually Feb 24 03:09:53 do you have ssh installed on ur phone!? Feb 24 03:09:55 Well, that sucks Feb 24 03:09:55 look VERY odd Feb 24 03:10:08 There: SSH started Feb 24 03:10:45 lolcat: and 77.x.x.x isn't any local IP range Feb 24 03:10:58 Local to whom? Feb 24 03:11:06 local to your LAN Feb 24 03:11:09 I guess I will check with ifconfig Feb 24 03:11:10 Any ideas on improving the skype app on n900 or will it forever be stuck in the stone age? Feb 24 03:11:20 DocScrutinizer: I don't use a NAT/WAN Feb 24 03:11:21 what skype app? Feb 24 03:11:32 DocScrutinizer: he wants to ssh over internet Feb 24 03:11:37 Bomberman: It is pure awesomeness Feb 24 03:11:38 lolcat: so you're in severe trouble Feb 24 03:11:54 javispedro: he meas that the internal skype sux Feb 24 03:12:19 lolcat: A) everybody can and WILL ping you with crap from internet-global Feb 24 03:12:22 The official skype app Feb 24 03:12:28 Seriously, I have the broadcast adress! Feb 24 03:12:44 lolcat: B) probably you are the only person on this planet that can't log in to your own device Feb 24 03:13:07 I have to send my ISP an angry email, I used to use that adress to stream shit when I was in school Feb 24 03:13:10 DocScrutinizer: You can? Feb 24 03:13:24 C) you got a broadcast addr, which means all packets sent to you are sent to everybody else on your subnet Feb 24 03:13:24 Bomberman: are you sure that what you have is a Nokia N900 instead of the Nokla N900? Feb 24 03:13:27 Can you copy the .mupen64plus and zip it and host it somewhere? Feb 24 03:13:52 aha, finally A appears. Feb 24 03:14:05 DocScrutinizer: So if I download a lot of stuff, everyone else on this carrier will use their packages? Feb 24 03:14:09 That is amusing Feb 24 03:14:11 javispedro: i wonder myself the same thing every time i pick up the brick Feb 24 03:14:26 lolcat: stalls at 14 ti0007a210-xe1-5.ti.telenor.net (146.172.111.58) 80.743 ms 85.440 ms 89.681 ms Feb 24 03:14:33 DocScrutinizer, like to see the results? Feb 24 03:14:50 DocScrutinizer: They are firewalling me? Feb 24 03:15:53 lols Feb 24 03:16:00 I guess I will ssh to my server, to break the firewall Feb 24 03:16:03 then ssh back Feb 24 03:16:09 through the server Feb 24 03:16:12 javispedro: sometimes skype is very crap over here too Feb 24 03:16:21 good luck lolcat :P Feb 24 03:16:24 hey DocScrutinizer Feb 24 03:16:30 * javispedro uses skype extensively... Feb 24 03:16:45 lolcat: are you doing all of this in order to do what to mupen64plus? Feb 24 03:17:02 javispedro: Multicontroller setup Feb 24 03:17:03 just use the USB cable and copy the file Feb 24 03:17:11 HtheB++ Feb 24 03:17:25 HtheB: I can't see the rigth foldder Feb 24 03:17:29 then go to terminal and move that shit Feb 24 03:17:31 folder* Feb 24 03:17:36 doesnt matter if u cant see Feb 24 03:17:37 * DocScrutinizer points to the uSD card slot of N900 Feb 24 03:17:40 I don't know what foldder I can see Feb 24 03:17:46 just drag and drop the stuff in the root Feb 24 03:17:49 it will come into: Feb 24 03:18:04 this dir: /home/user/MyDocs Feb 24 03:18:16 What is this??? A personal support line??? Lets change the subject people Feb 24 03:18:28 well, this is #maemo :) Feb 24 03:18:30 DocScrutinizer: I fried my laptop, so I can't use mirco sd cards in anything else than the phone Feb 24 03:18:43 Bomberman: to "why does N900 suck so much??" - sure Feb 24 03:18:50 HtheB: And MyDocs is what I see with the usb? Feb 24 03:18:54 Yup Feb 24 03:19:17 DocScrutinizer: ok perhaps i was a little too judgemental Feb 24 03:19:17 hang on brb :) Feb 24 03:19:21 * DocScrutinizer headdesks again, this tme without loud laughter Feb 24 03:19:33 DocScrutinizer, yo Feb 24 03:20:59 Man all this ssh is boring me to death Feb 24 03:21:00 back Feb 24 03:21:16 DocScrutinizer: www.tinychat.com/HtheB Feb 24 03:22:26 ? Feb 24 03:22:33 Bomberman: anyway congrats. You're the very first person coming here and complaining about TOO MUCH personal support in less than 30 min. I have heard this objection from oldtimers that are in this chan for years, but never from a newbie Feb 24 03:22:40 channel_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port 22 COuld not request local forwarding, arrrgh! Feb 24 03:23:07 Yo DocScrutinizer Feb 24 03:23:10 Bomberman: ssssshhhh Feb 24 03:23:18 wow Feb 24 03:23:28 * HtheB feels ignored Feb 24 03:23:28 helping people is "On topic" in this channel Feb 24 03:23:36 I wish there where a backwards ssh Feb 24 03:23:53 explain Feb 24 03:23:57 because I'm sure there is Feb 24 03:23:57 hss? :P Feb 24 03:24:01 :S Feb 24 03:24:06 I want to connect my laptop to my phone Feb 24 03:24:12 usb :P Feb 24 03:24:14 MY phone is on the broadcast figure Feb 24 03:24:20 ip* Feb 24 03:24:30 lolcat: just install the ssh server Feb 24 03:24:38 on your phone Feb 24 03:24:42 So I need to connect from the phone to my server so that my server can controll my phone. Feb 24 03:25:00 So my laptop can control the server Feb 24 03:25:02 People: i am snoozing off here....help! Feb 24 03:25:08 reverse VNC Feb 24 03:25:15 that's what I would do Feb 24 03:25:21 DocScrutinizer, javispedro and you Bomberman Feb 24 03:25:29 let me show you the XMB for N900 Feb 24 03:25:43 Can I copy text with VNC? Feb 24 03:26:16 HtheB: In riddles to speak he likes Feb 24 03:26:31 lol Feb 24 03:26:38 DocScrutinizer: go to www.tinychat.com/HtheB Feb 24 03:26:53 Why you would wanna vnc on that tiny little screen is beyond me Feb 24 03:26:55 been there - got bored -closed the window WTF Feb 24 03:27:23 DocScrutinizer: if u rly have been there, u would have ask for the pass =) Feb 24 03:27:44 why? I'm not interested in that communication channel Feb 24 03:27:55 errr? Feb 24 03:28:09 how the hell can I show u something over irc then -_- Feb 24 03:28:29 BTW i find that installing not optimized apps from the repos brings my already slow n900 to a crawl Feb 24 03:28:45 no shit sherlock Feb 24 03:28:49 I got the inner vision, the third digital eye Feb 24 03:29:07 DocScrutinizer: just go to there >_> Feb 24 03:29:15 Bomberman: surprise surprise Feb 24 03:29:15 or infobot will kick ur ass Feb 24 03:29:51 HtheB: you're almost crossing the spam threshold Feb 24 03:30:33 :( Feb 24 03:31:01 Some of the apps are pure crapness Feb 24 03:31:13 iphone is full of crap Feb 24 03:32:15 Why can't it listen to port 22? Feb 24 03:32:18 Lots of apps my a** Feb 24 03:32:59 lolcat: install ssh client and ssh server on both your phone and your PC. on PC do ssh -l root and enter root pw as given on installing ssh Feb 24 03:33:25 from phone do ssh -l whatever_your_user_on_PC Feb 24 03:33:45 why the -l? Feb 24 03:34:01 yeah ssh user@host also works Feb 24 03:34:08 ahh Feb 24 03:34:13 because it's written down like this in allmighty manpages Feb 24 03:34:19 Forget ssh on phone Feb 24 03:34:31 I used ssh lolcat@b1ag.com -p 28224 -L 2222:localhost:22 Feb 24 03:34:47 WTF?! Feb 24 03:34:47 But when I connect to b1ag.com at 2222 I get connection refused Feb 24 03:35:53 lolcat, you're incredible. Not able to open a simple ssh session, but starting with a port-forwarding Feb 24 03:36:06 I have started several Feb 24 03:36:09 But the wrong way Feb 24 03:36:31 *BURP* then Feb 24 03:37:29 lolcat: you now have to ask "Why does ssh suck so much on maemo??!!!eleven!11!!??" Feb 24 03:37:50 There is something wrong here Feb 24 03:37:58 Bomberman was right, we should switch topic Feb 24 03:39:34 * DocScrutinizer schedules another mega netsplit at #freenode, just for fun Feb 24 03:42:27 I found the solution, I will just unprotect port 22 on my server Feb 24 03:43:25 better use keys for public sshds tho Feb 24 03:44:02 My passwords are complicated, but since this obviouslt wont work Feb 24 03:44:21 What else fun can I install? Preferably something that can use my 100kbit connection to the max! Feb 24 03:50:20 * DocScrutinizer suggests skype Feb 24 03:50:50 Would calling with 100kbit work? Feb 24 03:51:03 will work great for using up all bandwidth by simply relaying other peers' conversations Feb 24 03:51:27 Even on the maemo client on 3,5G? Feb 24 03:51:40 esp with a globally visible IP like 77.17.161.255 Feb 24 03:52:44 as an added benefit it probably will max out all the other IP clients in same subnet, as it's a broadcast addr as you noticed Feb 24 03:53:31 I hope you don't get a visit by the men in black helicopters Feb 24 03:54:00 I have a gigabit vps Feb 24 03:54:37 All I need is command line vlc Feb 24 03:54:48 And then stream 1080p to MY ip :D Feb 24 03:55:14 and to all other IPs in 77.17.161.x Feb 24 03:55:55 brilliant, content multicast as it's been meant to be Feb 24 03:57:16 Especially since this provider charges like $2 for each MB xD Feb 24 03:58:24 yeah, and all the residents of Fredrikstad will say "thank you very much, llcat" Feb 24 03:58:58 I am in Oslo Feb 24 03:59:37 aha, going undercover in the masses Feb 24 03:59:57 they will spot you nevertheless Feb 24 04:00:19 Spotify works on 100kbit Oo Feb 24 04:00:28 my colleagues with the black sunglasses are damn cute when it comes to spotting people Feb 24 04:01:20 Is everyone else on my network now reciving my spotify data? Feb 24 04:01:31 On 77.17.161.* Feb 24 04:03:56 depends on what crappy router config your telenor mobile has set up for 77.16.0.0/14 Feb 24 04:04:44 by def aka RFC they should Feb 24 04:05:06 x.x.x.255 is always broadcast afaik Feb 24 04:06:24 broadcast means each NIC shall listen to those IP packets, and usually routers will distribute those IP addressed packets broadcast aka to all clients Feb 24 04:07:26 but actually I think x.x.x.255 isn't supposed to get routed from one subnet to another, but traceroute tells differently Feb 24 04:07:37 DocScrutinizer: .255 isn't always broadcast ,no. it depends on the subnetmask Feb 24 04:07:51 probably because no router ever looks at lowest octet Feb 24 04:07:52 broadcast is the last address in the subnet. Feb 24 04:07:54 thats also what i though Feb 24 04:07:55 t Feb 24 04:07:58 yep Feb 24 04:08:16 SwedeMike: yes, right, but here subnetmask is /14 Feb 24 04:08:18 DocScrutinizer: what? routers surely look at the last octet. Feb 24 04:08:40 ahh, ok Feb 24 04:08:42 DocScrutinizer: yes, that means the broadcast is the last address, it doesn't mean all .255 is broadcast. Feb 24 04:08:52 yeah I see Feb 24 04:09:00 this is no /24 Feb 24 04:09:23 broadcast is 77.17.255.255 then Feb 24 04:09:36 aiui Feb 24 04:09:37 no, 77.19.255.255 Feb 24 04:09:57 77.16.0.0/14 Feb 24 04:10:11 yes, if it was a /15 then it would be 77.17.255.255 Feb 24 04:10:13 77.16.0.0 - 77.17.255.255 Feb 24 04:10:19 then it's a /15, not a /14 Feb 24 04:10:20 says whois Feb 24 04:10:30 both Feb 24 04:11:13 inetnum: 77.16.0.0 - 77.17.255.255 Feb 24 04:11:14 netname: NO-MOBIL-BROADBAND Feb 24 04:11:16 route: 77.16.0.0/14 Feb 24 04:11:19 yes, I can do whois as well. Feb 24 04:11:40 but I'm sure no computers are connetced to that using a /14 subnetmask anyway, so what are you really after? Feb 24 04:11:47 it's nt going to be a huge broadcast network. Feb 24 04:11:47 looks like either of both details is odd Feb 24 04:12:10 no, it's perfectly fine. They have registered it as two /15 in RIPE, but it's announced to the internet as a /14 Feb 24 04:12:22 ahh ok Feb 24 04:13:52 SO then the ip isn't messing up my ssh? Feb 24 04:13:53 SwedeMike: I'm not particularly interested at all in that topic, it's just lolcat made me laugh a lot with his ideas about using as much bandwidth as possible, just because he can Feb 24 04:14:59 and btw quite evidently that's not a WLAN connection I'd guess Feb 24 04:15:28 lolcat: we suggested ssh for WLAN, not via public IP addr Feb 24 04:15:31 I told you guys I ahve a WLAN Feb 24 04:15:48 I am not allowed to use wlan in my studio appartment! Feb 24 04:16:09 uhuh Feb 24 04:17:12 And the D-Link has 24 gigabit ports, so I see no need for it! Feb 24 04:17:29 is your studio apartment in a dynamite factory, or a military equipment storage area? Feb 24 04:17:40 Not as far as I know Feb 24 04:18:37 lolcat: sorry, your details decode and compose total random noise here Feb 24 04:19:13 DocScrutinizer: i don't understand Feb 24 04:19:56 your IP is of mobile network, as in 2G/3G, you say you have WLAN, but you are not allowed to use it. Then you talk about a D-Link with 24 GB-ports which I decode as 1000BT ethernet cable Feb 24 04:20:22 CBA to figure any longer what'S your actual setup and problems, sorry Feb 24 04:20:23 I don't have wlan Feb 24 04:20:33 [2011-02-24 05:14:40] I told you guys I ahve a WLAN Feb 24 04:20:49 Oh, I forgott a 'don't' there... Feb 24 04:21:04 I forgot I'm AFK Feb 24 04:37:59 lolcat: you want to use WLAN to connect your phone to your PC, and I can't see whatever law or authority to forbid you doing that. If you aren't allowed to hook up a real AP to your gigabit D-Link - fine, then use the WiFi in your PC/laptop to crank up a local ad-hoc network with your N900. After you did that, sftp is just a snap, as is ssh both directions Feb 24 04:40:21 DocScrutinizer: On my last laptop that worked, then I fried the mobo/cpu :( Feb 24 04:40:26 This one is just weird Feb 24 04:41:45 HotSPot failed to start every time -.-" Feb 24 04:47:17 I need a new kernel Feb 24 04:47:24 What is titans? Feb 24 04:48:18 Huge people fighting olympus guys Feb 24 04:55:46 Need to submit patch for complete rotation. Feb 24 05:00:20 I managed to install the power kernel! Feb 24 05:00:30 But now I don't know what it is for Feb 24 05:04:53 www.facepalm.org Feb 24 05:04:54 lol Feb 24 05:05:01 MOAR POWAAA Feb 24 05:05:08 hence the name Feb 24 05:06:08 xterm crashed while installing the power kernel Feb 24 05:07:31 incredible Feb 24 05:08:03 I don't think it is booting anymore :( Feb 24 05:09:42 then I guess you messed something up. Probably you installed it via apt-get and missed one of the 3 mandatory packages Feb 24 05:09:59 There it booted, but it is slower Feb 24 05:10:19 no it's not Feb 24 05:11:19 HtheB: yeah Feb 24 05:12:59 Is starhashenabler something I need? Feb 24 05:14:42 "I found this spraycan. It says `spray into exhaust pipe of your car'. How do I do that? I can't reach to the end of exhaust pipe. - - Now I cut off some of exhaust pipe and sprayed that stuff in, now what is it going to do?" Feb 24 05:15:03 "MEH, car's not starting!! :-/" Feb 24 05:15:45 "wait - it started but now it takes goes hlf the milage per gallon" Feb 24 05:15:58 s/takes // Feb 24 05:15:59 DocScrutinizer meant: "wait - it started but now it goes hlf the milage per gallon" Feb 24 05:17:12 lolcat: starhash enabler does exactly what's written in the package description: it enables network control codes like *#61# (ask for call redirection) Feb 24 05:17:32 Useless Feb 24 05:17:46 your comment - yes Feb 24 05:21:44 * DocScrutinizer ponders to finally sell NOLO-eraser for just 99ct on OVI. Obviously there will be people who will buy and even test it Feb 24 05:22:23 sell NOLO-restore 3 days later, for 99$ Feb 24 05:23:39 NOLO? Feb 24 05:23:49 lolcat: useless Feb 24 05:24:29 But even know the apt finishes the power kernel install properly it still doesn't use it Feb 24 05:24:52 so it's fine to get NOLO-eraser, read the instructions(!), and NOT start it Feb 24 05:25:42 lolcat: RTFM Feb 24 05:26:10 apt-get install --reinstall -y kernel-power kernel-power-flasher Feb 24 05:26:10 reboot, and test again. Feb 24 05:26:14 Done that twice Feb 24 05:26:38 odds are next boot will fail, bootloop, reflash. You really shouldn't install things without knowing what you're doing Feb 24 05:27:10 I know I need a kernel that supports NAT so I can run mobile hotspot Feb 24 05:27:50 so why don't you use HAM to install things? Feb 24 05:28:23 Never heard of it Feb 24 05:29:20 And the maemo forum is endless Feb 24 05:31:21 installing hotspot via HAM afaik installs *all* needed parts of PK aitomatically Feb 24 05:31:58 Hildon Application Manager Feb 24 05:32:14 I only have the normal application manager Feb 24 05:33:01 well, that's HAM Feb 24 05:33:20 That is how I installed Applixation Manager Feb 24 05:34:01 you once again don't make sense to me Feb 24 05:34:51 Doh Feb 24 05:35:01 That is how I installed Mobile Hotspot Feb 24 05:40:09 I guess I need another power kernel to try Feb 24 05:41:33 How I HATE this dsl-router! clock is fast, so it disconnects the 24h scheduled 1min downtime 4 minutes early, then syncs clock via NTPD and 4 min later disconnects again :-/ X-P Feb 24 05:42:57 lol Feb 24 05:43:22 haha Feb 24 05:45:04 Arrgh, now the power kernel is gone from HAL! Feb 24 05:48:24 DocScrutinizer: Feb 24 05:59:03 http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ray+mcgovern+hillary+clinton irony. irony... Feb 24 06:03:53 pupnik: Feb 24 06:04:04 please vote for my live wallpaper Feb 24 06:04:09 if you like it, I will upload it :) Feb 24 06:04:49 at least if you're there :p Feb 24 06:06:41 meh, im going to sleep then :p Feb 24 06:06:41 nite Feb 24 06:07:10 hello Feb 24 06:07:24 i like live wps Feb 24 06:19:16 One last question from me today, if this works, is the overclocked kernel a powerkernel? Feb 24 06:20:23 overclocking = bad Feb 24 06:20:48 you should read the forums and realize how many people have screwed up their N900 overcloking up to an unusable state Feb 24 06:21:11 But I need a power kernel Feb 24 06:21:15 Sc0rpius: i missed those - broken n900s? Feb 24 06:21:16 what for Feb 24 06:21:23 and the apt installation never worked Feb 24 06:21:24 you can have a power kernel without overclocking though Feb 24 06:21:31 But I can't find it Feb 24 06:21:53 I found the 800 and 900mhz power kernel and it still has 4,5 years of warranty Feb 24 06:22:16 I insist, you don't have to overclock with a power kerneol Feb 24 06:22:47 Can you link me to a power kernel? Feb 24 06:23:02 what's wrong with your HAM? Feb 24 06:23:08 I don't know Feb 24 06:23:23 But for some reason the power kernel disseapeared form there Feb 24 06:23:29 When I tried to install it with apt Feb 24 06:23:42 But when I do uname -F or whatever it shows the old kernel Feb 24 06:23:45 maybe because you're looking for power kernel Feb 24 06:23:49 instead of "kernel-power" ? Feb 24 06:24:00 yes Feb 24 06:24:34 kernel-power - Flashable Linux kernel Feb 24 06:24:36 it's there Feb 24 06:24:42 apt-cache search kernel-power Feb 24 06:24:50 I did allready install it Feb 24 06:25:06 then? Feb 24 06:25:08 apt-get install --reinstall -y kernel-power kernel-power-modules Feb 24 06:25:12 Still no new kernel Feb 24 06:25:23 uname -a ? Feb 24 06:26:43 gotta boot again was waiting for it to get flashed Feb 24 06:27:01 did you install kernel-power-settings and kernel-power-flasher? Feb 24 06:27:27 http://wiki.maemo.org/Kernel_Power <--- read that please. Feb 24 06:27:49 If the new kernel still doesn't boot up, try Feb 24 06:27:54 apt-get install --reinstall -y kernel-power kernel-power-flasher Feb 24 06:28:42 What part of uname -a do you need? Feb 24 06:28:49 armv71 unknown Feb 24 06:29:02 2.6.28-omap1 Feb 24 06:29:15 I guess the date doesn't mather Feb 24 06:30:02 and you don't need kernel-power-settings, in fact I discourage to install those Feb 24 06:30:14 well yeah Feb 24 06:30:28 I installed it because I thougth it could work Feb 24 06:30:42 And I have doen the apt-get install --reinstall three times allready Feb 24 06:30:59 but you missed the flasher part Feb 24 06:31:08 kernel-power-flasher Feb 24 06:31:09 Nope Feb 24 06:31:19 that's why I said "USE HAM!!" Feb 24 06:31:19 I did exactly what the wiki said Feb 24 06:31:34 meh Feb 24 06:31:37 the wiki says kernel-power-FLASHER not modules Feb 24 06:31:38 HAM refused Feb 24 06:31:46 bs Feb 24 06:31:53 Sc0rpius: My memory of what I did is not that good Feb 24 06:32:13 Now I forgott what the ending of lib32 is so I can run the kernel flasher Feb 24 06:32:14 HAM thinks PK is installed because of you screwing it via apt-get Feb 24 06:32:39 yeah I would uninstall it via HAM Feb 24 06:32:43 and then install it via HAM Feb 24 06:32:55 that should fix everything Feb 24 06:32:56 Even before, it said it was conflicting with maemo-kernel Feb 24 06:33:08 I asked how to solve it, nobody knew so I got it from apt Feb 24 06:33:26 do you have PR1.3? Feb 24 06:33:31 But I need to install a few packages in ubuntu, then I can flash it Feb 24 06:33:43 Sc0rpius: I don't belive I know what PR1.3 s Feb 24 06:33:54 I should go to sleep Feb 24 06:34:12 yeah sure, you can flash it, then find it doesn't boot anymore, then come back here and moan a bit more Feb 24 06:34:30 all I can think is HAM is telling you there's a conflict because you're downloading a kernel-power that requires a maemo-kernel newer than the one you have installed Feb 24 06:34:34 because maybe you aren't in PR1.3 Feb 24 06:35:04 I update when it asks me Feb 24 06:35:09 I did earlier today Feb 24 06:35:15 I still wonder why you need a power kernel Feb 24 06:35:32 one thing's for sure, you now messed it up so nicely it becomes double-trouble to talk you out of that Feb 24 06:35:37 I thought Kataroto was raided by Sony Feb 24 06:35:42 err KaKaRoTo Feb 24 06:35:59 yeah, but I think there's a way out: uninstall from HAM and reinstall from HAM Feb 24 06:36:21 CBA Feb 24 06:36:30 I still think the cool guys have omap1 Feb 24 06:36:35 :) Feb 24 06:36:58 the N900 is like a vintage car Feb 24 06:37:02 So the OC kernel isn't a power kernel? Feb 24 06:37:10 you can put decals on it no problem but its best value is with its original engine Feb 24 06:37:26 you want to overclock and fry the N900? Feb 24 06:37:55 I have a moron-insurance on it Feb 24 06:38:04 And a warranty Feb 24 06:38:12 And the N950 is coming soon Feb 24 06:38:13 you already void your warranty installing the power kernel Feb 24 06:38:16 Why not? Feb 24 06:38:22 "Overclocking WILL VOID YOUR WARRANTY. Your warranty does not cover running the device beyond the specifications. " Feb 24 06:38:38 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/24/android_phone_privacy_shocker/ Feb 24 06:38:39 * RST38h yawns Feb 24 06:38:41 Sc0rpius: Nope, not the one that is by law in Norway. It goes under Normal usage. Feb 24 06:38:58 MUHAHAHA Feb 24 06:39:15 heh Feb 24 06:39:17 And no manufactor/retailer is allowed to give a worse deal than the one by law Feb 24 06:39:17 ruskie: Well every time you log into a non-https site, you are sending data in the clear Feb 24 06:39:19 lolcat: you're actually all the time close to triggering the troll-alert Feb 24 06:39:37 Doc: YOu mean,he has not yet triggered your troll alert? Feb 24 06:39:48 Doc: Because he is inmy /ignore list Feb 24 06:39:53 heh Feb 24 06:40:10 RST38h: sigh, +o you know :-/ Feb 24 06:40:35 RST38h, actually reading it might help... ;) Feb 24 06:40:41 not just the title ;) Feb 24 06:41:29 ruskie: I have read it. It says exactly what I've mentioned Feb 24 06:41:50 well it actually says that the apps are crap at respecting https where available Feb 24 06:41:58 ruskie: Facebook and Calendar not using HTTPS, you can sniff data, the undergreaduate DRAMA commences Feb 24 06:42:18 fecesbook set to always use https not using https Feb 24 06:42:32 fecesbook haha Feb 24 06:42:32 ruskie: Do you always use https on the desktop, when the site offers it? Feb 24 06:43:10 Sc0rpius, not my invention... just borrowing it... Feb 24 06:43:13 RST38h, yes Feb 24 06:43:15 it's funny anyway :) Feb 24 06:43:44 RST38h, also I rarely use third party sites for anything personal generally Feb 24 06:44:13 anything that I want to post online generally happens to get posted on a system that I have control of... Feb 24 06:45:05 ruskie: same here Feb 24 06:45:59 ruskie: lots of people do not understand this little detail of what they are doing, so articles like this are always a "shock" to them :) Feb 24 06:46:21 Invalid FIASCO file header Feb 24 06:49:59 lolcat: do yourself and us a favour, sell your N900 *now*, and get a iPhone Feb 24 06:51:46 *pukes* Feb 24 06:51:55 What is titan's kernel?! And where is it? Feb 24 06:54:12 RST38h: +o or -o, I think I can't handle it any other way now Feb 24 06:55:12 RST38h, the funnest part of that article is... use an encrypted wireless network... so apparently that ensures that the whole path is encrypted... Feb 24 06:55:36 ruskie: indeed Feb 24 06:56:09 though OTOH you know the endpoint is NOT encrypting your data Feb 24 06:56:59 well, who cares in times of facebook and cloud computing Feb 24 07:05:24 Well, now I tried unistalling with the HAM but now it says I have no programs installed Feb 24 07:27:24 Now I managed to get HAM to make it work Feb 24 07:27:28 I installed the power kernel Feb 24 07:27:33 But I still have oamp Feb 24 07:31:25 luke-jr: i think size of home was modified to be 4G Feb 24 07:31:53 ?? Feb 24 07:31:58 where? Feb 24 07:32:10 02:43 < luke-jr> jacekowski: any reason your VANILLA image doesn't match the MD5? Feb 24 07:32:19 aah Feb 24 07:33:10 I wonder if we could get additional partitions as well Feb 24 07:33:22 i've looked at that format Feb 24 07:33:24 and yes Feb 24 07:33:30 I wonder if I could get a single non-stock working kernel... Feb 24 07:33:44 but i'm not sure how to modify it Feb 24 07:33:48 Now flasher-3.5 works, but I don't have a kernel image Feb 24 07:34:23 yeah, looks easy, but I wonder why we got no tools to prepare custom eMMC images Feb 24 07:36:07 I also wonder why flasher is closed Feb 24 07:43:28 I know why it doesnt work! Feb 24 07:43:52 I have a custom bootloader (to run android), wont it start the normal kernel? Feb 24 07:45:45 DocScrutinizer: I diagnosed my own problem! Ammen't I good? Feb 24 08:16:13 Now I can't uninstall the new kernel and it won't boot it :( Feb 24 08:32:12 I HAZ powerkernel! Feb 24 08:32:21 I HAZ ownkernel!! Feb 24 08:32:53 Oo Feb 24 08:32:59 You wrote a kernel? Feb 24 08:33:11 Can I overclock it to 601? Feb 24 08:33:19 lol... Feb 24 08:33:34 I wish it was 400 stocl Feb 24 08:33:36 recompiled the base kernel to have most of the normal features that I expect... Feb 24 08:33:45 Then I could oc to 404 Feb 24 08:33:59 have a ton of modules added Feb 24 08:34:02 and fbcon Feb 24 08:34:17 fbcon? As in facebook? Feb 24 08:34:28 OO, now I can increase the cpu speed ALOT Feb 24 08:35:43 How long will it run at 1150? Feb 24 08:38:00 lolcat, 0.00005s ;) Feb 24 08:38:08 lolcat, framebuffer console... Feb 24 08:38:21 fb was short for framebuffer long before fecesbook came along Feb 24 08:38:44 What is a framebuffer console? do I want one? Feb 24 08:38:47 Probably not Feb 24 08:38:51 good answer ;) Feb 24 08:38:53 but HAM is dead now :( Feb 24 08:39:04 ham is crap... always was Feb 24 08:39:18 What is the package name for mobile hotspot? Feb 24 09:11:20 What is the common practice of storing localization files for Qt apps on Maemo? Where should I put it? Any examples/docs? Feb 24 09:31:45 timeless_w7ip, ping Feb 24 09:34:16 pong Feb 24 09:34:57 Does anyone knows Qt app for maemo with translations/localization? Feb 24 09:36:28 timeless_w7ip, mind if I borrow your head for a bit? trying to get a firefox plugin to work with microb, I can't seem to find xulrunner sources except for some portions sitting inside microb-engine-dev. If that is supposed to be the xulrunner it seems now I am missing ejdk sources Feb 24 09:36:50 ejdk isn't gecko related... Feb 24 09:37:25 hmm but I can't proceed with getting microb compiled without some java header files Feb 24 09:37:49 microb-engine-dev should be roughly equivalent to the headers that could pontentially be provided by xulrunner Feb 24 09:38:05 well at least my main point is that I want to get xulrunner working with microb so then I can compile the addon (which depends on xulrunner) to make it work Feb 24 09:39:03 wait, I meant that I don't have xulrunner sources, I only have xulrunner binaries which I doubt microb depends on and the addon probably cannot be compiled against it Feb 24 09:51:41 Hey i'm in desperate need of help. I'm in a different country for a few days and my N900 broke. It happened when I've updated to latest CSSU and then updated the transitions.ini to force autorotate now my phone just reboot and gets to the desktop scren and is stuck there and keeps rebooting. Seems like its killing Hildon-desktop everytme.and Feb 24 09:52:01 ~flashing Feb 24 09:52:01 methinks flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Feb 24 09:52:32 If you screw up the format of transitions.ini, that will happen, I think Feb 24 09:52:33 i dont want to anyway to access phone while off connected to my mac and just removing the transitions file? Feb 24 09:52:37 no Feb 24 09:52:54 Yu can't touch the root filesystem that way, only mydocs Feb 24 09:53:07 damn, anyway to backup using flasher? Feb 24 09:53:50 It may ebe possile to boot into another OS - I've no idea how that works Feb 24 09:53:56 and no Feb 24 09:54:17 there's oss-backup for that as well as maybe backupmenu v2 as well Feb 24 09:54:45 Don't they require installation first? Feb 24 09:55:05 s/oss-backup/osso-backup/ Feb 24 09:55:06 psycho_oreos meant: there's osso-backup for that as well as maybe backupmenu v2 as well Feb 24 09:55:53 and no osso-backup doesn't its standard but whatever other 3rd party apps that you may have got which aren't inside the usual 4 standard repositories may need to be manually added and/or installed separately. Feb 24 09:55:58 Alright, thanks a lot for your help everyone. Can anyone point me into right direction on how to install anther os Feb 24 09:56:38 Flashing will not wipe out user data. Feb 24 09:56:41 If it's on /'home Feb 24 09:56:59 and you don't flash that bit Feb 24 09:57:07 depends on which file you used to flash, fiasco doesn't but emmc will.. and emmc will also erase stuff in /home/user/MyDocs Feb 24 09:58:35 I'm more concerned on the Rootfs data. I haven't backed up recently and not in mood to reinstall and customize everything to my liking again when it's only one file that is causing the reboot Feb 24 10:02:26 Any suggestions? Feb 24 10:04:07 I'm trying to get easydebian to run, but after installing the image which completes successfully, starting the chroot causes lots of Input/output errors when it tries to mount /dev etc.. Feb 24 10:04:34 Also, there are a lot of "attempt to access beyond the end of the device"-errors in dmesg, that refer to the image mounted via /dev/loop0 Feb 24 10:07:11 isfr21: Maybe ask later, when more people are awake Feb 24 10:08:03 hmm, apparently that only happens when I try to install it in MyDocs, not on my sdcard. Does this indicate a hardware defect? Feb 24 10:08:34 dschoepe: it may be not enough space Feb 24 10:08:38 dschoepe: or something like that Feb 24 10:08:56 dschoepe: and that causes loop file to be truncated Feb 24 10:09:25 jacekowski: there should be enough space (on MyDocs). I also umounted MyDocs and ran fsck, and it didn't find any errors. Feb 24 10:09:43 how big is your loop file? Feb 24 10:09:52 around 2G Feb 24 10:09:57 because it looks like it's truncated or something Feb 24 10:10:03 or damaged in other way Feb 24 10:10:15 try copying the one from sd card to mydocs Feb 24 10:10:47 Morning Feb 24 10:10:56 hmm, I tried that with a file a decompressed on my desktop once, is it normal that this took 4 hours? Feb 24 10:11:08 the copying that is Feb 24 10:11:08 hmm, not really 4h Feb 24 10:11:15 but around hmm, Feb 24 10:11:21 hour maybe 2 Feb 24 10:11:45 hmm, I'll try again Feb 24 10:14:57 someone know if there is an updated git version for maemo ... Feb 24 10:15:10 the one in repository didn't have git pull Feb 24 10:15:11 :) Feb 24 10:22:01 Khertan1, you sure about that? Feb 24 10:32:23 hi Feb 24 10:33:13 what qt libs should I use for audio output? somehow qtmobility/multimediakit doesn't work Feb 24 10:33:26 ruskie: i'm sure :) Feb 24 10:35:48 File upload error. You didn't upload a valid .changes file. Feb 24 10:35:49 pffff Feb 24 10:38:41 ruskie: ok .. there is two git package Feb 24 10:38:45 git-core & git Feb 24 10:38:51 git-core have pull Feb 24 10:38:59 while git didn't have Feb 24 10:39:00 :) Feb 24 10:39:03 erm... git-core is actual git Feb 24 10:39:27 ruskie: git-core is newer than git, but not actual : 1.6.6 Feb 24 10:39:31 actual is 1.7.6 Feb 24 10:40:57 Khertan1, actually git atleast in debian used to be gnuit... Feb 24 10:41:17 iirc Feb 24 10:41:50 ruskie: gnuit seems to be something different: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuit/ Feb 24 10:42:02 gnuit is something else : http://packages.debian.org/sid/gnuit Feb 24 10:42:07 dschoepe, yes... but it used to be called git under debian at some older version Feb 24 10:44:01 not 100% sure but that's what I recall when I was searching for git in the repos a few years ago Feb 24 10:45:20 of course might not have been debian but some other distro Feb 24 10:48:31 http://alban.apinc.org/blog/2010/09/15/d-bus-in-the-kernel-faster/ <-- interesting Feb 24 11:09:36 ruskie: that's the reason the git package is called git-core on debian :) Feb 24 11:09:44 at least I think so Feb 24 11:09:58 edheldil, yeah Feb 24 11:10:36 fwiw, i had to use qtmultimedia Feb 24 11:14:57 Hi guys .. quick question: where is this nifty Call-recorder widget for the N900? I had it on the machine, was using it and suddenly it dissappeared. And I can't find it for re-install .. Feb 24 11:17:04 http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras_free_armel/recaller/2.0.0-7/ Feb 24 11:20:34 funny .. I've that repo in my selection, but can't find recaller. Perhas the catalog got corrupted, I'll try and remove/reinsert it, let's see ... Feb 24 11:20:45 (thanks nid0) Feb 24 11:20:51 http://maemo. Feb 24 11:20:51 +org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras_free_armel/recaller/2.0. Feb 24 11:20:51 +0-7/ Feb 24 12:10:35 why can't n900 be used for gsm sniffing Feb 24 12:10:36 ? Feb 24 12:14:54 reenignEesreveR, first hit on google: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=44108 Feb 24 12:17:12 andre__, i've gone through the link already but it still doesn't clarify why it isn't possible? because the GSM processor doesn't alllow promiscuous mode or what? Feb 24 12:20:05 It's basically because GSM is not wifi. Feb 24 12:20:25 The GSM protocol is spread over hundreds of channels. Feb 24 12:20:32 And the radio can only listen on one at once. Feb 24 12:21:59 Sony took down my PSFreedom gitorious repository :/ Feb 24 12:22:19 it's a damn UI Feb 24 12:23:48 MohammadAG: I hate sony, I need linux on it Feb 24 12:24:29 I don't, I made a UI for PSFreedom, whether that is illegal or not is not my problem Feb 24 12:24:52 lolcat: why did you buy a ps3 then Feb 24 12:25:30 can I sue if i'm under 18? Feb 24 12:25:48 you can send a counternotice to gitorious Feb 24 12:27:08 kerio: I got it for free Feb 24 12:27:55 MohammadAG, if you haven't found it yet, have a look at http://www.chillingeffects.org/question.cgi?QuestionID=132 Feb 24 12:51:46 note to everyone - do not travel in or out of the US carrying laptops, usb drives, or cell phones Feb 24 12:51:49 http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/11/09/manning Feb 24 12:51:56 including your N900 or whatever Feb 24 12:54:12 http://www.lawyers.com/our-blog/archives/624-Cell-Phone-Computer-in-Sentencing-Sex-Offender.html is also worrying. Feb 24 12:54:31 Use a 'computer' in the commission of a crime, and the sentance is enhanced. Feb 24 12:54:47 And computer has a really, really wide definition, easily encompassing smartphones. Feb 24 12:55:18 Oh Feb 24 12:55:26 I thought it was a general computer misuse proposition. Feb 24 12:56:02 On further reading, I find it's a grooming offence. Feb 24 12:56:10 there's no reason that using a cellphone to assist in a crime changes the nature of the crime Feb 24 12:56:19 so yes, that's retarded as well Feb 24 12:56:31 Why, it changes the crime to hitech. Hitech is cool! Feb 24 12:56:37 It depends if the phone has sharp corners or not. Feb 24 12:58:05 pupnik: encrypt it Feb 24 12:58:37 the term “computer” means an electronic, magnetic, optical, electrochemical, or other high speed data processing device performing logical, arithmetic, or storage functions, and includes any data storage facility or communications facility directly related to or operating in conjunction with such device, but such term does not include an automated typewriter or typesetter, a portable hand held calculator, or other similar device; Feb 24 12:59:10 That's washing machines and credit cards, and SIMs, and microwaves, and ... Feb 24 12:59:17 jacekowski: you still lose your expensive hardware Feb 24 13:00:29 well under that definition it also includes cd's and floppy disks... Feb 24 13:01:45 Not quite. A CD and floppy is not 'operating in conjunction' Feb 24 13:01:58 unless it's connected to a 'high speed data processing device' Feb 24 13:02:13 Is my toaster a computer? Feb 24 13:02:38 pupnik: yeah, i've just read it Feb 24 13:02:38 It may be. It's probably not - though I wouldn't be surprised if the higher end models were. Feb 24 13:02:53 its directly related to *or* operating in conjunction with, though, and you can easily argue that a CD is a storage facility that both directly relates to and is used in conjunction with a pc Feb 24 13:02:54 pupnik: just make sure you have exploding battery in your laptop Feb 24 13:03:04 Bear in mind that a $.25 component these days is enough to count as a 'high speed data processing device' Feb 24 13:03:22 (a PIC 10F microcontroller) Feb 24 13:03:26 For example. Feb 24 13:03:26 is a transistor a data processing device Feb 24 13:03:29 and if not Feb 24 13:03:33 my electric toothbrush does some clever shit varying its speed, that must have a chip in it Feb 24 13:03:34 when it does become one Feb 24 13:03:47 I wonder if beating someone over the head with it would get me a computer misuse charge Feb 24 13:04:00 jacekowski: Perhaps - it's slightly harder to argue that it is, than a micro with a stored program, registers, and a fast ALU. Feb 24 13:04:19 you're saying that pic is fast? Feb 24 13:07:00 It is fast, compared to doing it by hand. Feb 24 13:07:24 It can probably do over a million adds a second, for example. Feb 24 13:07:44 Which I'm damn sure I could convince any jury is 'high speed'. Feb 24 13:08:42 million monkeys can do million adds a second Feb 24 13:09:13 Infite monkeys would be infinitly wrong Feb 24 13:09:31 But if they where to write MS would their copyrigth still apply? Feb 24 13:23:53 hi all Feb 24 13:24:12 a dear soul once pasted here link to a script to make maemo more responsive, has anybody that link to share again? Feb 24 13:24:28 google is unhelpful as usual, and finding through the forums is a bit troublesome. Feb 24 13:24:43 the script tweaked it to not do so much swapping Feb 24 13:24:53 and I think it was not related to increasing the swap Feb 24 13:25:00 (or maybe it was? I can't remember ;)) Feb 24 13:25:33 sivang: use swapolube :) Feb 24 13:25:55 Khertan1: maybe it was you that pasted the link to that script on wiki / forum ? :) Feb 24 13:26:02 nope :) Feb 24 13:26:07 Khertan1: you have a link to swapolube? Feb 24 13:26:11 but swapolube est a bit the same Feb 24 13:26:19 with a gui if you want one Feb 24 13:26:44 http://wiki.maemo.org/Swappolube so cool Feb 24 13:26:44 sivang: http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/swappolube/0.4-1/ Feb 24 13:27:05 hum there is more recent version : http://maemo.org/packages/view/swappolube/ Feb 24 13:27:05 :) Feb 24 13:27:35 http://moff.mozilla.com/latest-beta/maemo/multi/dists/fremantle/release/binary-armel/ <<< grrrr still no Packages file pfff Feb 24 13:29:07 khertan: it's not reallyworth it, fennec is still not very good Feb 24 13:31:46 Venemo_N900: maybe, but just want to try the beta5 Feb 24 13:31:47 :) Feb 24 13:32:17 maybe i should made my own browser base on WebKit :) Feb 24 13:32:35 khertan: :P Feb 24 13:32:48 khertan: or make a webkit-based browserd backend Feb 24 13:33:54 Venemo_N900: hum ... is it possible to do it in python , Feb 24 13:33:55 ? Feb 24 13:33:56 :) Feb 24 13:34:13 khertan: i dunno a thing about python Feb 24 13:36:25 does there is api/specs about browserd backend Feb 24 13:36:27 ? Feb 24 13:39:11 Venemo_N900: hum ... fennec is slow ... due to a large ram use Feb 24 13:43:20 rah ... khtsync is completely bugged Feb 24 13:43:22 pfff Feb 24 13:45:19 Khertan1: thanks, trying to find it in holdon-app-manager Feb 24 13:46:17 hey Venemo_N900 , you looked for me the other day Feb 24 13:46:53 * sivang holds on for app manager Feb 24 13:47:19 * Khertan1 never use HAM, but apt in xterm ... really faster ;) Feb 24 13:47:40 Khertan1: but then there are those issues with package dependencuies, /opt getting filled and all that jazz Feb 24 13:48:38 * sivang still waits Feb 24 13:49:17 ah! Feb 24 13:49:19 thank god Feb 24 13:49:25 * sivang searches for swalpolube Feb 24 13:50:07 conflicting application package? Feb 24 13:50:08 bah Feb 24 13:50:11 * sivang drops to shell **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Feb 24 17:26:17 2011 Feb 24 17:26:37 consider using kick reasons :P Feb 24 17:27:00 you're right :-S Shouldn't have been lazy on that Feb 24 17:28:36 blame Konversation :-) Feb 24 17:28:52 * pupnik listens to Orbital - Halcyon in his brain Feb 24 17:32:24 , Feb 24 17:34:15 Is it a bad idea to reformat MyDocs as ext3 (or ext2) to avoid vfat's annoying limitations? Feb 24 17:34:56 it might mess up the windows automounting if you plug it in via USB... Feb 24 17:35:15 dunno about any other side effects thp Feb 24 17:35:17 *tho Feb 24 17:35:18 okay, I don't use windows anyway Feb 24 17:35:23 :P Feb 24 17:35:46 would try to get a reply from someone who knows more definitively though, i'm just speculating Feb 24 17:35:51 bbl, lunch Feb 24 17:35:57 I think the boot scripts might take issue with it Feb 24 17:36:07 hrm, lunch Feb 24 17:36:11 sp3000: got plans for food? Feb 24 17:36:13 mostly because they expect fat32, iirc Feb 24 17:36:13 * timeless_w7ip could use lunch Feb 24 17:36:24 is it possible to stack ` in .sh files? Feb 24 17:36:38 you can use $() instead... Feb 24 17:37:27 DocScrutinizer: Oh - see patch to ofono - http://lists.ofono.org/pipermail/ofono/2010-December/006829.html Feb 24 17:37:28 hmm, on a related matter: Is there an easier way to make more room for more applications in an easydebian installation instead of creating a bigger image? (Which lead me to my previous question) Feb 24 17:37:41 *led Feb 24 17:37:56 DocScrutinizer: To get neighbouring cell info. However, I don't see an underlying modem driver. Feb 24 17:43:01 MEH Feb 24 17:43:12 SpeedEvil: thanks nevertheless Feb 24 17:43:41 However - the @nokia address is at least signs of some progress. Feb 24 17:51:57 timeless_w7ip: plan is shower then food Feb 24 17:53:42 timeless_w7ip: have a location in mind? Feb 24 17:58:04 SpeedEvil: questionable if this progress will help for RAPUYAMA aka N900 modem Feb 24 17:59:19 I'm setting all my hopes in jacekowski eventually REing the whole cmt FW and tell us how to exploit undocumented features in ISI Feb 24 18:00:13 dschoepe: just add something to that file Feb 24 18:00:15 dschoepe: on the end Feb 24 18:00:21 dschoepe: and run resize2fs on it Feb 24 18:01:35 * pupnik_ is amazed at the prices people pay for apple stuff Feb 24 18:01:40 SpeedEvil: you for sure recall Dieter's analysis of calypso firmware, telling us about cmds in AT interface that nobody knew of Feb 24 18:02:47 makes 'em feel cool Feb 24 18:02:47 yes. Feb 24 18:02:47 DocScrutinizer: Indeed. /however - Rapuyama is probably not EOL chipset. AIUI. Feb 24 18:02:47 I guess for cmt FW / ISI that's way more complicated but feasible Feb 24 18:02:47 But - yes. Feb 24 18:03:10 rapuyama is a lot more complicated than calypso Feb 24 18:03:32 jacekowski: yeah, I know :-/ Feb 24 18:04:07 and lot of stuff is done in hardware directly Feb 24 18:04:31 sure Feb 24 18:05:16 but I still guess we should find some sort of command interpreter with a list indicating what's implemented in ISI Feb 24 18:06:34 that would be step one: find what random sequence of bytes to send to BB5 over ISI makes some sense whatever. Feb 24 18:07:30 i'm not sure randomly testing is going to work Feb 24 18:08:19 then either RE the trial and error way, by sending 'challenges' and trying to make sense of the response. Or disassemble those particular cmds that are implemented but not documented, and try to make sense of the code Feb 24 18:08:44 kerio: that's exactly what I said Feb 24 18:09:38 RE of command interpreter shall tell us what are worthy "random" sequences to investigate further Feb 24 18:14:38 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uef17zOCDb8 3d without glasses :D Feb 24 18:14:58 on Nokia 6210 you had to send a special unlock cmd via AT interface, to enable service monitor, which then was available as additional item in UI menu. It's quite likely similar schemes of implementation can be found on newer Nokia phones as well, as there's rarely ever anything re-invented Feb 24 18:16:37 calypso had undocumented ATM m,n for accessing ServiceMonitor functions Feb 24 18:17:03 AT%SM Feb 24 18:17:09 i remember having the service monitor on my 6250 Feb 24 18:17:49 * RST38h sighs, wonders what is new andexciting tonight Feb 24 18:21:23 * timeless_w7ip has written and half integrated code to crawl around the web and get terribly confused Feb 24 18:21:38 can it follow links on a page timeless_w7ip ? Feb 24 18:22:12 pupnik_: sure, as long as the page is meego.gitorious.org and links are to directories in that page :) Feb 24 18:22:40 oh Feb 24 18:23:27 wow Feb 24 18:23:32 it even managed to find something to do Feb 24 18:23:34 * timeless_w7ip is shocked Feb 24 18:23:53 cool though! Feb 24 18:23:56 it actually did its job Feb 24 18:24:23 anyone know where I can stick a command to be run after an X server has been started up? Feb 24 18:24:35 * lardman is getting rather confused by the X script mess Feb 24 18:30:10 lardman: .xinitrc in user home Feb 24 18:30:12 not work ? Feb 24 18:30:37 doesn't exist Feb 24 18:31:03 lardman: if you create one Feb 24 18:31:04 is .xinitrc run after the server has started up then? Feb 24 18:31:05 maybe will work Feb 24 18:31:43 lardman: in normal *nix distro yes Feb 24 18:32:01 ok, thanks Feb 24 18:56:42 quit Feb 24 19:17:11 http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-e5KdXMW5d44/TWUWnuN_foI/AAAAAAAAC1U/d0EdoluK62s/s1600/possum.jpg Feb 24 19:17:53 lol@nokia Feb 24 19:43:02 freenode still kinda shaky? Feb 24 19:45:55 ~ping Feb 24 19:45:56 ~pong Feb 24 20:00:57 is there a way to record sound output without using cables? Feb 24 20:01:02 i.e something with pulseaudio? Feb 24 20:01:15 (on a PC of course) Feb 24 20:01:27 where is the mic? Feb 24 20:01:29 * pupnik boggles at dirt on n900 engine board Feb 24 20:02:05 MohammadAG: mplayer --dumpstream ? Feb 24 20:09:59 MohammadAG: yeah Feb 24 20:10:10 MohammadAG: on some cards Feb 24 20:10:57 MohammadAG: pulseaudio has issues. Also, so do all the pulseaudio alternatives Feb 24 20:13:26 moin Feb 24 20:38:10 MohammadAG: the monitor devices provide this Feb 24 20:38:31 valdyn, how do I use them? Feb 24 20:40:32 MohammadAG: im looking into it, this is totally new yet Feb 24 20:40:36 MohammadAG: ( to me ) Feb 24 20:41:14 MohammadAG: ok, this source says, just make it the default recording device and use any recorder Feb 24 20:41:43 can i ask here about a problem with cssu? Feb 24 20:41:43 MohammadAG: that can be arecord too if ~/.asoundrc is set to pa Feb 24 20:44:15 ThreeM: You can, although #maemo-ssu is more appropriate Feb 24 20:44:41 yesterday i have try 9 desktops. all worked well and i configure the view back to 4 desktops. today i want to enable 2 desktops but i cant do that anymore in the "manage view" options. there are only 4 desktops available Feb 24 20:44:47 MohammadAG: i dont see that option, but record -> in pavucontrol, 2nd tab switch the source to any monitor Feb 24 20:45:23 ThreeM: Are you using something like Theme Customiser or a modified system package? Feb 24 20:45:36 nope Feb 24 20:45:51 ahh just a moment Feb 24 20:46:16 hmm Feb 24 20:46:47 Jaffa, it's a bug, only happens on some devices for some reason Feb 24 20:46:51 i have it installed but i dont use it Feb 24 20:46:56 Jaffa, I fixed it on gitorious by hardcoding the value to 9 Feb 24 20:47:48 yesterday all things are fine. that is what i cant understand :) Feb 24 20:48:37 and only change i have made is activate 9 desktops and disable the desktops again Feb 24 20:54:28 how can i fix this? Feb 24 20:55:35 ThreeM: It seems it's already a fixed bug (MohammadAG: is there a bugzilla entry for it so ThreeM can track release progress?), so it's a case of waiting for a new release, I guess. Feb 24 20:56:36 Jaffa, no, no bug report Feb 24 20:56:50 Tsk ;-) Feb 24 20:57:05 if you can't wait, compile the source (psst: http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/hildon-home_0.3.71-5_armel.deb ) Feb 24 20:57:57 Jaffa, I think a new release is due Feb 24 20:58:17 Parallax, zoom on press effect, modest patches Feb 24 20:58:56 MohammadAG: Modest patches for portrait? Feb 24 20:59:11 MohammadAG: Don't push that out unless Sc0rpius has fixed the message details and other dialogues. Feb 24 20:59:21 New Message fixed Feb 24 20:59:41 MohammadAG: Since you can't see the subject much in the window title, you rely more on "Message details" but it doesn't open properly. Feb 24 20:59:46 agreed Feb 24 20:59:58 Unless that's the MR you've just merged ;-) Feb 24 21:00:43 nah, that fixes the New Message button and hildonizes one of them Feb 24 21:00:53 (I thought the latter was part of Nokia Messaging, which is closed) Feb 24 21:01:39 Cos Modest currently doesn't actively support portrait, does it? Making it add the flags should be dependent on fixing the dialogues. Ideally, the toolbar too (i.e. the prev/next buttons shown rather than the drop down of overflowing icons) Feb 24 21:01:48 But that's secondary to getting it working :-) Feb 24 21:01:52 Anyway, g2g Feb 24 21:14:15 http://i52.tinypic.com/33u99tx.jpg needs work Feb 24 21:24:25 wow the n900 speakers are tiny! Feb 24 21:24:52 10x6 mm wide and about 2 mm thick Feb 24 21:25:06 you can boost them, go too high and they'll go ultrasound permanently :P Feb 24 21:25:26 these are broken yes Feb 24 21:27:17 oh and do not remove the stylus if you open the unit Feb 24 21:27:40 no, wait... you can break the speakers by whoopsing the volume? :| Feb 24 21:28:33 my speakers stopped working and i think someone else's did also - but we bypassed the speaker protection Feb 24 21:28:37 or rather, i did Feb 24 21:31:29 LjL, yeah, just remove protection Feb 24 21:36:18 dang they are cool looking though Feb 24 21:39:04 what is this rotating half-moon shaped device on the system board? Feb 24 21:39:29 vibra? Feb 24 21:39:47 oh duuh Feb 24 21:39:50 ty MohammadAG :) Feb 24 21:41:03 there's probably as many parts as on a laptop in here Feb 24 21:42:04 want to see a picture of the speaker? Feb 24 21:49:31 Hey guys! Feb 24 21:49:50 hey u Feb 24 21:50:05 I've got a quick question regarding SMSCON. Is there any way to make SMSCON hide the SMS notifications if they are a valid command? Feb 24 21:50:26 Is there a potential way to implement it? :) Feb 24 21:54:28 what's SMSCON? Feb 24 21:55:22 http://i.imgur.com/BMKBj.jpg n900 speaker (removed from case) Feb 24 21:55:31 DocScrutinizer: lookit how tiny Feb 24 21:56:39 pupnik: you have very big beer bottle caps. Feb 24 21:57:07 isn't that amazing? Feb 24 22:00:00 * pupnik is amazed Feb 24 22:01:55 * SpeedEvil wishes there was acompressor option on the speakers Feb 24 22:02:29 pupnik: it's a remote-control-N900-by-SMS app. Feb 24 22:03:07 toresbe: COOL Feb 24 22:04:12 It's fairly neat, yes. But I'd like to be able to suppress the SMSes from making it to the UI. Feb 24 22:06:33 wtf Feb 24 22:06:59 why does the Dell configurator tell me that "BIOS: Internal Bluetooth Set To Enabled" costs 5€? Feb 24 22:08:18 because you still haven't uninstalled it Feb 24 22:08:35 I mean their web shop one Feb 24 22:08:50 toresbe: that's a must-have (surpressed to UI) Feb 24 22:09:21 toresbe: if one's n900 gets stolen and one wants to control it, it should be private Feb 24 22:09:35 (I'm _buying_ a PC and they're asking me 5€ to do stuff like "Enable Internal Bluetooth in BIOS", 5€ to "BIOS: Boot First Device set to Hard Drive" Feb 24 22:09:39 , etc) Feb 24 22:10:04 * javispedro hopes this is some mistranslation Feb 24 22:10:08 If you want to set the BIOS in a non-standard way - you have to pay for it Feb 24 22:10:19 If you're happy with it as it ships normally, you can leave it Feb 24 22:10:21 AIUI Feb 24 22:10:23 javispedro, that would presumably require opening the box, powering it up, sitting there pressing buttons etc Feb 24 22:11:04 * javispedro finds plenty of alternative cheaper ways to do that... but hey... Feb 24 22:11:14 javispedro: YOU can Feb 24 22:11:31 javispedro: i bet there are a number of Dell customers (they would be the typical Dell customers) who have no idea. Feb 24 22:12:09 * javispedro sighs Feb 24 22:12:29 and for a few minutes I was thinking that mean I wouldn't have the option to turn Bluetooth on by myself :P Feb 24 22:13:11 it could mean that too yeah Feb 24 22:13:21 javispedro: it'll come with a coin slot, and if you bring a Bluetooth device near it, the screen will flash "Insert Coin." Feb 24 22:15:43 * javispedro thinks what BCMM says will come true in the not-so-far future Feb 24 22:16:37 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdbuSZVYewg&feature=feedu Software upgradable scope javispedro Feb 24 22:29:12 pupnik: http://www.ownta.com/original-nokia-n81-n900-cell-phone-speaker.html Feb 24 22:32:32 javispedro: except you're using paypal, not a coin slot Feb 24 22:33:04 http://i.imgur.com/9VbG6.jpg check it out! n900 speaker opened! Feb 24 22:33:27 M$ is actively pushing that model - lease services (like MS-word) by the minute, or by the line of text Feb 24 22:33:35 nice camera you've got Feb 24 22:33:35 pupnik: which speaker is that? earphone or stereo? Feb 24 22:33:53 stereo Feb 24 22:34:01 wow, it's tiny Feb 24 22:34:08 pupnik: you're insane - you killed it Feb 24 22:34:12 i mean, those are pretty loud Feb 24 22:35:23 DocScrutinizer: they were 'dead' already Feb 24 22:35:32 * DocScrutinizer wonders idly if that nice sharp macro has enough minutiae to make a valid fake fingerprint of pupnik Feb 24 22:35:43 awesome engineering though in such tiny things :) Feb 24 22:35:54 DocScrutinizer, it should be lol Feb 24 22:35:55 javispedro: that sort of thing happens now Feb 24 22:35:58 javispedro: you buy hardware Feb 24 22:36:01 javispedro: like FC switches Feb 24 22:36:07 javispedro: and it has 16 ports Feb 24 22:36:12 but only 8 are working Feb 24 22:36:24 you buy code from brocade or whoever manufactured that switch Feb 24 22:36:29 type it in Feb 24 22:36:33 pupnik: so did you blow it up by playing with mixer settings? Feb 24 22:36:33 and you have 16 port switch Feb 24 22:36:37 well, it's still missing the coin slot =) Feb 24 22:36:44 DocScrutinizer: heh, i like the way you think... Feb 24 22:37:33 javispedro: well, at least they're honest about it, unlike artificial processor binning Feb 24 22:37:45 jacekowski, mishighlighted Feb 24 22:38:00 BCMM: blew it up playing lectures all day without XPROT speaker protection Feb 24 22:38:05 javispedro/javispedro conversations always confuse me Feb 24 22:38:21 BCMM: hey, I do not talk alone THAT often. Feb 24 22:38:23 but apparently the voice coil is still intact, so perhaps simply heating or something jarred it Feb 24 22:38:34 javispedro: hah, can't believe i did that... Feb 24 22:38:39 told you it was confusing Feb 24 22:38:54 LOL Feb 24 22:38:58 pupnik: XPROT? Feb 24 22:39:18 how can I reload ~/.rtcomm-accounts/accounts.cfg ? Feb 24 22:39:34 i'm curious because i want to know if the rumour that you can blow the speakers using only alsamixer is true Feb 24 22:39:45 * DocScrutinizer sneaks by the hot punch an throws 200 trips in Feb 24 22:40:32 which in turn is because i want to play with alsamixer in order to get sound to come out through the earphone Feb 24 22:40:51 since one might occasionally want to listen to internet radio or something like that Feb 24 22:40:59 BCMM: believe me, it is Feb 24 22:41:13 ok Feb 24 22:41:17 i don't see why they 'broke - the suspension is still ok, the coil is still intact Feb 24 22:41:30 pupnik: got a multimeter? Feb 24 22:41:31 The only time I had to get a N900 repaired so far is because a broken left speaker Feb 24 22:41:32 maybe the insulation on the coil wire broke and now the coil shorts Feb 24 22:41:45 yes Feb 24 22:42:15 well, check its resistance i guess... Feb 24 22:42:34 meh, I regret I haven't ordered 3 pairs of spare speakers with that bare pcb Feb 24 22:42:47 probably either burned out a wire, or, like you said, burned out insulation Feb 24 22:42:57 well the wire looked fine Feb 24 22:43:17 ...or simply molten glue and coil got outa shape Feb 24 22:43:48 s/glue/glue or plastic-support/. Feb 24 22:44:45 hmmm, is it silent, or does it sound all wrong? Feb 24 22:44:59 wires rarely melt on long term 200% overdrive. They blowfuse on surges, like applying 24V from a low-Z battery Feb 24 22:45:57 look, plasic melting @200°C, copper malting when? 800°? Feb 24 22:47:30 hmm Feb 24 22:47:45 maybe the amplifier on the n900 board is what's dead Feb 24 22:48:01 * pupnik reassembled speaker Feb 24 22:48:21 really, check with a multimeter... Feb 24 22:48:38 what should i see? Feb 24 22:48:55 pupnik: unlikely Feb 24 22:49:13 pupnik: 8 ohms +/- Feb 24 22:49:31 still won't tell you anything Feb 24 22:49:48 get those: http://www.ownta.com/original-nokia-n81-n900-cell-phone-speaker.html Feb 24 22:50:47 pupnik: if you hadn't killed them yet, I'd suggest you use an empty 1.5V battery and connect it to the speakers contact springs to see if it clicks Feb 24 22:50:54 also, not 0-ish or infinity... Feb 24 22:51:18 (for shorted insulation and burned-out wire, respectively) Feb 24 22:51:44 pupnik: reassembling those won't work, you killed them as you can't place the coil concentric to the magnet Feb 24 22:52:36 BCMM: for shorted isolation there's just one wind shorted enough to kill it for AC Feb 24 22:52:56 and AC is what you use on speakers, usually Feb 24 22:53:05 "usually"? Feb 24 22:53:07 DocScrutinizer: right, i figured -- btw those replacements are better than the original i hope.. http://www.ownta.com/original-nokia-n82-e72-e66-x6-n85-cell-phone-speaker.html Feb 24 22:53:35 pupnik, do the n900 speakers connect in same way as n810? Feb 24 22:53:45 i haven't opened n810 Feb 24 22:53:48 on the n810 there are little springy things Feb 24 22:53:50 meh, what makes you think they fit? Feb 24 22:53:54 that the speakers just press against Feb 24 22:54:06 those look exactly the same DocScrutinizer Feb 24 22:54:20 but maybe the dimensions are different Feb 24 22:54:24 you're welcome to test Feb 24 22:54:39 pupnik, note that people take pictures with toy cars "looking" exactly like real cars on the street! Feb 24 22:55:33 FSCKFSCKFSCK people.openmoko.org also down Feb 24 22:55:40 pupnik: aww, that's cute; somebody thinks repetition is an SEO strategy Feb 24 22:56:17 I hate HDMI Feb 24 22:57:02 I hate rootkits for linux boxes Feb 24 22:57:42 What I hate most about HDMI is that most monitors will usually think they are being fed input from a TV-thing instead of a PC and either overscan or report they support 480p and/or 1080p only Feb 24 22:58:01 DocScrutinizer: by the way, I guess you saw http://nokiaplanq.com/ already ? ;) Feb 24 22:58:07 oh cool, timeout on IRC again? Feb 24 22:58:22 DocScrutinizer: where did you get a bare N900 PCB? Feb 24 22:58:35 nfc Feb 24 22:58:56 http://www.ownta.com/compatible-nokia-n900-cell-phone-pcb-board-without-spareparts.html wow Feb 24 22:59:19 LOL ROTFL on nokiaplanq Feb 24 22:59:35 pupnik: still waiting for delivery Feb 24 22:59:39 :-S Feb 24 23:03:49 javispedro: AWESOME :-D Feb 24 23:04:00 :) Feb 24 23:05:19 pupnik: and how on earth do you use that??? resolder the chips????? Feb 24 23:05:48 You don't. Feb 24 23:05:54 It's practically useless Feb 24 23:06:20 The chances of resoldering on the chips - with a 99.5% good solder-joint rate is about 10% Feb 24 23:07:49 http://www.ownta.com/brand-new-nokia-n900-unlocked-cell-phone.html Feb 24 23:08:14 Brand new N900-coloured N810 WiMax edition! Feb 24 23:09:18 heh... wrong pic Feb 24 23:10:17 javispedro: http://share.ovi.com/media/joerg900.public/joerg900.10096 Feb 24 23:10:28 that whole site has a really, really spammy feel Feb 24 23:11:20 DocScrutinizer: so you're working for OpenMokia now!! Feb 24 23:12:33 anyone tried a 32GB micro sd in their n900 yet? Feb 24 23:13:03 I have one and it works well Feb 24 23:13:15 nice. what brand Feb 24 23:13:30 Sandisk Feb 24 23:13:40 thanks Feb 24 23:14:03 Megaltariak, neat, did you get it out of necessaity or just because you wanted one? Feb 24 23:14:15 * lcuk has about 3gb left on his n900 so thinking about it Feb 24 23:14:32 http://www.google.com/images?q=n900 gets it surprisingly wrong Feb 24 23:14:47 i dont want to wear out the build in flash so moving commonly used/rewritten stuff to microsd is a good idea Feb 24 23:15:12 BCMM google image search for nokia phones tends to be quite horribly wrong across the board Feb 24 23:15:48 also, i think that incorrect ownta pic was nabbed from google image search without checking... Feb 24 23:16:08 can anyone take-apart a n810 and show us the speakers in it? Feb 24 23:16:47 the pic I find really astonishing is like 5th searching for the e7 Feb 24 23:16:51 pupnik: I did, alas people.openmoko.org is down aTM Feb 24 23:16:54 http://www.priceindia.net/mobile/nokia/nokia-e7-price-in-india/ Feb 24 23:16:56 I repartitionned my N900 with 27go /home/ and 2go MyDocs for testing stuff and apps but I still wanted to have space for multimedia/usb storage, so I buyed one. Feb 24 23:17:15 theyve somehow photoshopped a cobbled together mashup of the e7, the n9 prototype, and the n900 all in one Feb 24 23:17:23 pupnik, doc has an n810 disassembly guide but site is afk atm Feb 24 23:17:50 DocScrutinizer: so they're very different size than n900 speakers, correct? Feb 24 23:18:19 * lcuk is slow tonight Feb 24 23:18:21 not afaik Feb 24 23:18:43 lemme check local pics Feb 24 23:19:26 the volume on n810 was much better and i wonder why Feb 24 23:19:34 If anyone ever wants to change default phone account: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=954881#post954881 Feb 24 23:21:00 pupnik: much bigger Feb 24 23:21:33 round about twice the size Feb 24 23:22:39 http://www.google.de/search?q=N810_disassembly/SNC00308.jpg&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 Feb 24 23:23:23 ty luke-jr Feb 24 23:24:49 pupnik: doesn't work with Babyphone ☹ Feb 24 23:24:52 but what does it mean? Feb 24 23:25:03 pupnik: it means you can have Phone use a SIP account by default :p Feb 24 23:25:21 oh duh - ty Feb 24 23:25:36 awesome Feb 24 23:27:02 wow, google cache loading since 3 min, at 49% Feb 24 23:27:13 52% Feb 24 23:27:43 same here at about 0% of pics done Feb 24 23:27:48 57 Feb 24 23:28:07 * DocScrutinizer YAWNS Feb 24 23:28:21 MEH Feb 24 23:32:47 http://share.ovi.com/media/joerg900.public/joerg900.10097 Feb 24 23:33:34 pupnik: ^^^ Feb 24 23:34:17 Is there an app that can talk at to another handset via bluetooth? Feb 24 23:34:42 I kinda want to read contacts and messages from another phone, using AT .. Feb 24 23:34:51 Might have to write it myself I guess. Feb 24 23:34:53 DocScrutinizer: maybe with a dremel i could make space for those :D Feb 24 23:38:47 pupnik: I suggest injecting magnetic fluid to the air gap between coil and magnet of the original ones Feb 24 23:40:28 plus I want royalties of 1.87USD per device for that improvement, for stealing that idea form magnastat and applying it to mobile phone transducers Feb 24 23:43:52 DocScrutinizer: fluid doesn't compress like a gas :/ Feb 24 23:44:46 you mustn't flood the whole speaker with it, just let is settle between magnet and coil, in that 0.1mm air gap Feb 24 23:45:59 air between speaker dome and magnet should vent via a hole in magnet usually Feb 24 23:46:18 did i mention i got some beautiful planar drivers made in germany - from a reseller in USA? Feb 24 23:47:49 yeah, or place some piezo on that back cover plastic and use the whole area as a surface planaer speaker ;-) Feb 24 23:48:13 Bohlender Graebener Neo8-PDR Feb 24 23:48:14 heh Feb 24 23:48:55 used with kickstand that should give way better bass Feb 24 23:49:34 sitting on desk flat it will make your cam lens come off Feb 24 23:50:09 FSCK, laf 18s, 32s, WTF is wrong with freenode today? Feb 24 23:50:14 lag* Feb 24 23:50:20 ugh Feb 24 23:50:21 ~ping Feb 24 23:50:22 ~pong Feb 24 23:50:27 how do I turn off the stupid kb led flashing in R&D mode again? Feb 24 23:50:32 * luke-jr lost all his changes with PR1.3 Feb 24 23:51:07 there's some sysnode you need echo 0>foo Feb 24 23:51:36 nfc what's been the name Feb 24 23:52:18 lag 5s Feb 24 23:52:36 shiiiiit Feb 24 23:53:01 pratchett.freenode.net in Rennes, FR, EU. Feb 24 23:53:44 ~ping Feb 24 23:53:45 ~pong Feb 24 23:54:45 ~ping Feb 24 23:54:45 ~pong Feb 24 23:54:49 nice Feb 24 23:54:55 ~ding Feb 24 23:54:56 dong Feb 24 23:55:01 ~pong Feb 24 23:55:02 ~ping Feb 24 23:55:04 hehehe Feb 25 00:00:44 when trying to SSH to the N900, I get "Error: Host key verification failed Please select another viewer and try again." Feb 25 00:00:46 wft is this? Feb 25 00:02:44 someone is hacking you Feb 25 00:03:00 or the N900 got a different IP addresss Feb 25 00:03:18 yes? Feb 25 00:03:30 no, I reflashed it Feb 25 00:04:17 * pupnik doesn't know the proper precise answer Feb 25 00:04:20 DocScrutinizer: there's a config file somewhere Feb 25 00:05:03 * luke-jr diffs old and new /etc Feb 25 00:05:06 no config file, it's done somewhere in rcs-early or sth Feb 25 00:05:24 that file isn't in /etc ;-) Feb 25 00:06:34 DocScrutinizer: no, I am SURE there is a config file Feb 25 00:06:52 aha Feb 25 00:06:56 /etc/pmconfig Feb 25 00:07:17 oooh Feb 25 00:07:25 i wish that ownta.com site would give the dimensions for those speakers Feb 25 00:07:42 solution was to edit ~/.ssh/known_hosts on my laptop Feb 25 00:08:02 ownta.com are fools Feb 25 00:08:15 they sell chips like potato chips Feb 25 00:08:27 no clue Feb 25 00:08:33 nah, bye-bye guys Feb 25 00:08:44 Venemo: ?? Feb 25 00:08:53 DocScrutinizer: ?? ?? Feb 25 00:09:23 DocScrutinizer: [01:00] when trying to SSH to the N900, I get "Error: Host key verification failed Please select another viewer and try again." ---> [01:07] solution was to edit ~/.ssh/known_hosts on my laptop Feb 25 00:10:05 Venemo: ssh -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -o UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null root@192.168.0.202 Feb 25 00:11:14 DocScrutinizer: that's a hack instead of a proper solution, isn't it Feb 25 00:11:29 known issue, that friggin known-hosts is supposed to stop MITM attacks, but usually just throws stick at your feet Feb 25 00:11:55 mhm Feb 25 00:12:01 okay, thanks DocScrutinizer :) Feb 25 00:12:05 anyway, I should be sleeping Feb 25 00:12:08 so good night Feb 25 00:12:12 it's meant for a internet where's no dynamic IPs Feb 25 00:13:25 DocScrutinizer: sleep_ind controls the flashing Feb 25 00:24:08 luke-jr: exactly, and sleep_ind actually is a GPIO Feb 25 00:24:24 and you can control it via some /sys node Feb 25 00:25:04 intel/apple "thunderbolt" connector promises 10 Gbps connections (usb 2.0 = 480 Mbps) Feb 25 00:25:23 GPIO162 Feb 25 00:26:24 usb always sucked Feb 25 00:27:00 DocScrutinizer: I prefer to use config :>P Feb 25 00:27:13 and afair somewhere in init process, probably in rcS_early or what it's called, I've seen some bootmode cmdline tool asking if R&D is set and doing an according echo 0/1 >/sys/foo Feb 25 00:30:05 I probably found this config file by looking at that init process :p Feb 25 00:30:09 and seeing that it checks the config Feb 25 01:10:58 how do i change ovi map to mappero? to auto launch from address book. Feb 25 01:13:45 is there a prefered application setup config file? Feb 25 02:52:25 Argh! Feb 25 02:52:31 PR1.3 doesn't seem to work with T-Mobile Feb 25 02:57:34 it does in germany if thats of any help... Feb 25 02:57:56 (i suppose not) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Feb 25 02:59:57 2011