**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 13 02:59:57 2011 Apr 13 05:17:13 PySide too Apr 13 05:18:49 __otg__ - run, forrest, run Apr 13 07:59:16 Morning, all Apr 13 08:08:37 morning Jaffa Apr 13 08:18:48 hi Jaffa Apr 13 08:19:39 luke-jr|otg: was that you who needed speakers? Apr 13 08:23:52 Why am I not allowed to buy something from ovi store that doesn't work on my phone? Do they hate money? Apr 13 08:24:25 most likely to product stupid users from themselves ;) Apr 13 08:25:51 wth Apr 13 08:25:55 s/product/protect/ Apr 13 08:25:56 They should make an exception for angry birds rio Apr 13 08:26:02 produce :-) Apr 13 08:26:05 frals, I understood it :) Apr 13 08:28:49 * DocScrutinizer glares at 1300 NTD Apr 13 08:32:38 duh TWD Apr 13 08:37:34 mece: chargebacks are very expensive to stores Apr 13 08:37:45 stores really do not want to be in a position where customers buy something and return it Apr 13 08:37:53 1. they get no net money from the initial sale Apr 13 08:37:57 I guess I have to *bring* EUR to change those to... nothing Apr 13 08:37:59 2. they have to pay for the chargeback cost Apr 13 08:38:56 timeless_w7ip, I understand that, it's still annoying. Apr 13 08:39:22 that doesn't count any other overhead or the fact that the customer was disastisfied and badmouths them for the sale of goods which don't work Apr 13 08:40:24 timeless_w7ip, well, they should still make it so that you can do it with some light hacking ;) Apr 13 08:41:17 "i know what i'm doing, please take my money" ? Apr 13 08:41:27 c'mon OVI - what yer talking bout? Apr 13 08:41:42 fwiw iirc google doesn't allow hackers to use its store at all Apr 13 08:41:53 or maybe they offer "all sales final" Apr 13 08:42:01 i think initially it was the former Apr 13 08:42:06 they might have switched to the latter Apr 13 08:42:38 wtf google store? Apr 13 08:42:44 hah, Rovio solved my problem :D Apr 13 08:42:54 I'm hopelessly behind the moon Apr 13 08:43:21 from twitter: @mece66: @roviomobile How can I send you some monies so I can steal Angry Birds Rio with a clean conscience? Apr 13 08:43:24 @RovioMobile: @mece66 maybe you could buy one of our toys at http://t.co/VqMpMJV Apr 13 08:44:33 but which one? Apr 13 08:44:45 The yellow bird is my favorite in the game. I think I'll go with that one. Apr 13 08:44:54 but the red one is the most iconic... Apr 13 08:44:57 * mece ponders Apr 13 08:45:46 pick both ;-D Apr 13 08:48:11 I bought the red one. Apr 13 08:55:24 so is OVI now really capable of selling my 1.79$ N900 app? Apr 13 08:55:58 o.O Apr 13 08:56:33 fellu: what? Apr 13 08:56:40 What app? :) Apr 13 08:56:49 yet to come :-P Apr 13 08:57:03 oh Apr 13 08:57:04 they probably don't take USD :) Apr 13 08:57:33 what else? TWD? Apr 13 08:57:58 * DocScrutinizer glares again at those 1300 TWD, angrily Apr 13 08:59:28 tbh after support for maemo ceased, how can I expect OVI to support maemo app merchandise Apr 13 09:01:52 Angry Birds Rio works in portrait mode, but not as well as the original angry birds. Apr 13 09:02:37 hmm that might actually be a preenv thing though. Forcing height to 480.. Apr 13 09:35:30 Why hasn't someone made a a non ovi app store for the n900 Apr 13 09:35:39 kinda like cydia for the iphone Apr 13 09:38:07 dotblank: because nobody needs it. Apr 13 09:38:52 the OVI-appstore ist bullshit, the regular package-manager is free and open. Apr 13 09:39:06 and you may add as many repositories as you like. Apr 13 09:43:59 i think he wants to sell apps outside ovi Apr 13 09:53:30 selling apps for a dead platform? Apr 13 10:24:32 Home Calendar Widget on N900 is displaying all events shifted one hour forward. Till yesterday everything was fine. Any ideas how to fix it? Apr 13 10:29:03 I mean Calendar Home Widget Apr 13 11:00:04 good morning Apr 13 11:03:48 OkropNick, it's called daylight savings time Apr 13 11:04:18 OkropNick, you'll probably find the whole world (except for Brisbane and some other states in the US) have changed the time... Apr 13 11:05:11 crashanddie: I've just talking with widget developer, but thanks. I have in Poland daylight saving time too Apr 13 11:05:29 I was going for funny. Apr 13 11:29:07 /act Apr 13 11:29:11 Erm. Apr 13 11:53:32 Hi, I want to flash vanilla on my n900. Are the latest versions of vanila & combined ok? I heard somebody complain about wifi after 1.3 ... Apr 13 12:17:57 and does flashing vanilla mean flash the VANILLA and then COMBINED images? The docs are fuzzy on what image file to use for flashing the rootfs Apr 13 12:52:38 edheldil: so err Apr 13 12:52:58 there's only one rootfs and you can only flash it with one thing, because if you flash it with something else, whatever was there before will be gone Apr 13 12:53:32 if you're trying to flash a recent rootfs, then you should ensure that you have backed up any data you care about and flash the vanilla image at the same time Apr 13 12:53:45 'same time' is defined as 'without allowing the device to boot between' Apr 13 12:54:20 if you try flashing a very old rootfs, you wouldn't actually need to flash the emmc, because initially we didn't do optification Apr 13 12:54:28 and thus the emmc was not used by the os Apr 13 12:54:55 (some of the docs you'll find will data to then and thus wouldn't have a reason to mention flashing the emmc when describing how to flash the rootfs) Apr 13 12:59:50 timeless_mbp: thank you ... I wanted to know whether I should avoid e.g. PR 1.3. It's a second hand phone and I wanted to get rid of anything nonstandard which could be there. I have found a good enough docs, it was just a bit too fuzzy in the flashing rootfs part - I thought I knew it talks about COMBINED image, but I was not overly sure Apr 13 13:00:28 so, the naming for the images is based on internal details Apr 13 13:00:46 combined mean "support for various hardware variants that will never be seen in the wild" Apr 13 13:00:54 or something like that Apr 13 13:01:18 what's being combined is , , and a couple of other bits Apr 13 13:01:32 most people simply think of it as the rootfs image Apr 13 13:01:42 personally, i'm relatively happy w/ 1.3 Apr 13 13:01:45 and would use it Apr 13 13:01:56 you'll want to flash both rootfs and emmc Apr 13 13:02:03 be sure not to boot between Apr 13 13:02:52 no, I mean it said "Now flash the FIASCO/rootfs image using the above commands with -R parameter" - I figured it out, but for some time I thought I should use the exactly same command as before, including image filename, only with -R flag Apr 13 13:03:45 I have it flashed correctly in the end, just was a bit confused in this step Apr 13 13:03:55 most docs are in wikis Apr 13 13:04:03 wikis can be changed Apr 13 13:04:09 please feel free to improve the docs Apr 13 13:04:49 will do Apr 13 13:07:12 how does one keep debug symbols when compiling again? Apr 13 13:07:54 -g, nvm Apr 13 13:17:34 so much win: http://media.fukung.net/images/28334/aa3e076c38e543aae2b4448e972b4b1d.gif Apr 13 13:46:04 Hello Apr 13 13:46:19 Nice i didn't notice the new camera apps in CSSU. But who do the apps ? Apr 13 13:46:26 i see nothing in changelogs about iut Apr 13 13:47:22 MohammadAG: qt-x11-maemo Apr 13 13:47:23 Optified libraries <<< could this be a source of problem ? Apr 13 13:47:37 no Apr 13 13:47:47 khertan, nicolai Apr 13 13:48:06 ;) Apr 13 13:48:07 thx Apr 13 13:48:21 really nice apps ... working well Apr 13 13:48:34 http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Features/Camera_UI Apr 13 13:49:11 maybe i should change my glassess Apr 13 13:49:11 :) Apr 13 13:50:07 khertan: any eta on khweeteur working together with the new cssu update? Apr 13 13:52:08 merlin1991, it's not his fault Apr 13 13:52:10 blame achipa :P Apr 13 13:52:14 merlin1991: soon :) Apr 13 13:52:31 merlin1991: the line 0.1.6 will be discontinuted soon Apr 13 13:52:51 0.5.x should be available in stable branch soon Apr 13 13:52:52 my desktop has a space that is mssing an icon really badly ;) Apr 13 13:52:55 MohammadAG: Could you test Qthello with the latest CSSU: looks like it is now showing notifications in the wrong color or maybe does not fade them in fully (try losing a game) Apr 13 13:53:05 a current experimental version is available in extras-devel Apr 13 13:53:14 merlin1991: but it s experimental :) Apr 13 13:53:19 RST38h, will do, juts fixing some stuff with camera-u Apr 13 13:53:20 i Apr 13 13:53:32 merlin1991: there is sometime some missing reply text Apr 13 13:53:35 ah =) thanks Apr 13 13:53:39 still didn't know why Apr 13 13:53:46 but other that ... it s working Apr 13 13:54:03 btw can it be that the twitter api cuts texts sometimes? Apr 13 13:54:25 I had it that with several clients I didn't see the full msg, but only on the webpage Apr 13 13:54:25 merlin1991: i didn't think Apr 13 13:54:37 I only noticed that with links Apr 13 13:54:44 merlin1991: it s an error of the client on retweet ;) Apr 13 13:54:47 wich pointed nowhere due to half of them missing Apr 13 13:54:54 message got a truncated status Apr 13 13:55:00 that many client ignore Apr 13 13:55:51 merlin1991: but currenlty i more worried by the bug on qtextedit which was bring by 4.7.2 than something else :) Apr 13 13:55:52 crashanddie, check out Sam Fuld's catch from last week. Apr 13 13:56:02 is there a QTimer::singleShot equivalent in GLib? Apr 13 13:56:08 GAN900, sorry? Apr 13 13:56:18 MohammadAG: addTimeOut Apr 13 13:56:19 crashanddie, one sec. Apr 13 13:56:26 khertan, can you confirm it's Qt 4.7.2 and not the theme? Apr 13 13:56:34 try running the app with -style cleanlooks Apr 13 13:56:46 MohammadAG: timeout_add to be exact :) Apr 13 13:56:59 MohammadAG: ... hu ... good suggestion Apr 13 13:57:30 crashanddie, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2uN0_Qajbw Apr 13 13:57:48 MohammadAG: confirmed Apr 13 13:57:55 nice Apr 13 13:57:59 MohammadAG: same error with the cleanlook on n900 Apr 13 13:58:16 * MohammadAG suggests opening a bug on Qt bugtracker Apr 13 13:58:31 MohammadAG: already done :) Apr 13 13:59:08 MohammadAG: http://www.pygtk.org/pygtk2reference/gobject-functions.html#function-gobject--timeout-add Apr 13 13:59:47 The function is called repeatedly until it returns FALSE Apr 13 14:00:00 http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-18720 <<< and the qt bug report Apr 13 14:01:19 MohammadAG: http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-18720 Apr 13 14:01:20 :) Apr 13 14:01:45 thanks :D Apr 13 14:02:11 Receiving objects: 9% (46823/502403), 61.86 MiB | 124 KiB/s .... pfiou ... Apr 13 14:02:21 willl be slow cloning :) Apr 13 14:02:25 * MohammadAG knows the feeling Apr 13 14:02:48 :) Apr 13 14:03:45 crashanddie, spawned another ridiculous twitter meme: #LegendofSamFuld Apr 13 14:08:05 khertan, is there a way to make it only call the function once? Apr 13 14:08:16 it returns TRUE on success, FALSE on fail Apr 13 14:08:52 MohammadAG: if the called method return False, the call will be made only 1 time Apr 13 14:09:16 it returns true Apr 13 14:09:47 oh that QLineEdit bug is weird Apr 13 14:09:53 indeed :) Apr 13 14:09:57 noticed it in the mediaplayer just now... Apr 13 14:10:00 :) Apr 13 14:10:07 and every app using qt Apr 13 14:10:21 seems also affecting some other text rendering Apr 13 14:10:39 as someone notice invisible text in listview Apr 13 14:10:50 look at t.m.o :) Apr 13 14:10:57 there is some complain about it Apr 13 14:11:26 * MohammadAG looks at commits made to QLineEdit Apr 13 14:11:33 MohammadAG: i didn't understand why you return true ... maybe show me your code Apr 13 14:11:49 khertan, not me, it's an API Apr 13 14:11:54 MohammadAG: what did I do again ? Or is it still the PyQt story ? :) Apr 13 14:11:55 * khertan have try yesterday on Gitorious without success Apr 13 14:12:05 Fix QLineEdit's Highlight color when inactive. Apr 13 14:12:08 wanna bet it's that ^? Apr 13 14:12:23 MohammadAG: there is a good chance Apr 13 14:12:47 July 27 Apr 13 14:12:49 old commit Apr 13 14:13:25 btw http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/qt-x11-maemo/blobs/history/master/src/gui/widgets/qlineedit.cpp Apr 13 14:13:37 achipa: cssu can't be installed for khweeteur user, as python2.5-qt4-test depends on libqt4-test =4.7.0, and khweeteur depends on python2.5-qt4 which depends on python2.5-qt4-test ... Apr 13 14:13:53 yeah i use the meta package where i should not Apr 13 14:13:57 meh This Git object is too large to be displayed in the browser Consider cloning the repository locally and look at the object there Apr 13 14:14:02 khertan: yeah, so pyqt story Apr 13 14:14:10 but for promotion bug reason ... i use it Apr 13 14:14:18 achipa: pyqt story ? Apr 13 14:14:18 khertan: in fact, latest scientific research says you're doing the right thing Apr 13 14:14:32 ? Apr 13 14:14:41 scientific research? lol Apr 13 14:14:42 HAM is inherently broken wrt to upgrade strategy for packages like pyqt Apr 13 14:14:52 merlin1991, ping Apr 13 14:14:57 HAM is inherently broken Apr 13 14:15:02 is enough :) Apr 13 14:15:04 MohammadAG: pong Apr 13 14:15:13 merlin1991, how do I get what was changed in c46f00ec595ae60046affa1d0ed19b2e5a14d4f6 Apr 13 14:15:29 but only for one file Apr 13 14:15:34 so even though the Debian way of 'right thing' would be to depend on the particular libs, with HAM I will start bundling ALL libs in the metapackage Apr 13 14:15:42 i.e. the modules will be the metapackages :) Apr 13 14:16:26 as it's just way too easy to run yourself into an upgrade dead-end Apr 13 14:18:28 indeed Apr 13 14:19:09 MohammadAG: git diff commit1 commit2 pathtofile Apr 13 14:28:10 khertan, qlineedit.cpp wasn't changed much Apr 13 14:28:17 do you know where text highlighting is painted? Apr 13 14:30:50 nope sorry Apr 13 14:31:01 i'm far to be a qt expert :) Apr 13 14:32:16 wtf Apr 13 14:32:31 QTextEdit inherits QTextBrowser and QTextBrowser inherits QTextEdit Apr 13 14:41:36 khertan, full diff of widgets http://pastebin.com/pgtsxCmx Apr 13 14:43:14 someone should really fix Qt's text input bug... Apr 13 14:43:23 :) Apr 13 14:43:52 Venemo, can't fix it if you can't find it Apr 13 14:44:21 MohammadAG, meh, a Qt guy pointed me to some few thousand lines long cpp file Apr 13 14:44:47 MohammadAG, I forgot which one though. the code and the task to even try understand it seemed enormous at the time Apr 13 14:45:09 I just fucked up Apr 13 14:45:13 what? Apr 13 14:45:16 upgraded to Qt 4.7.2 in scratchbox Apr 13 14:45:33 oh well, at least that'll help to see if compiling against new Qt fixes it Apr 13 14:45:51 :) Apr 13 14:47:56 nope Apr 13 15:55:54 Heheh, I've just found hack to start logging duration time of calls :) It's here, post #20: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=42624&page=2 Apr 13 15:59:16 OkropNick: extened call log show the duration time Apr 13 15:59:18 of the call Apr 13 15:59:37 oh , wait not Apr 13 15:59:54 just the time Apr 13 16:00:43 E0x: will be showing duration time after above hack Apr 13 16:00:54 cool Apr 13 16:00:55 at least from 0.5 version Apr 13 16:01:43 khertan, it's not QText* Apr 13 16:01:47 it's all text selection in Qt Apr 13 16:01:53 see About Qt dialogs Apr 13 16:11:36 chem|st, ping Apr 13 16:15:19 new symbian update Apr 13 16:15:22 look like maemo Apr 13 16:15:51 MohammadAG: ouch Apr 13 16:18:22 Is full "Terminal" app sources FOSS Apr 13 16:18:33 * alterego wants bell to trigger vibra Apr 13 16:19:14 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/04/13/red_hat_unveils_project_ceylon/ <-- anyone want something like java but not java? Apr 13 16:19:27 scala ? Apr 13 16:19:38 oh Apr 13 16:19:41 is a new JVM Apr 13 16:19:53 alterego, yes, patches to CSSU welcome :P Apr 13 16:20:05 code is from 2004 I think Apr 13 16:20:51 bell to trigger vibra ? Apr 13 16:24:14 E0x: there's a ANSI control code that triggers a "bell" from you terminal, I want it to make a noise and ring vibra, hand if you use remote screen with notification scripts. Apr 13 16:24:31 Or some IRC clients can be configured to use bell on PM etc. Apr 13 16:25:07 MohammadAG: might look tonight, after I've got my meego dialer work merged. :) Apr 13 16:25:31 alterego, sources here https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/osso-xterm Apr 13 16:25:38 * SpeedEvil ponders an exciting rapid development agile language. Apr 13 16:25:48 I shall call it 'BuckFast' Apr 13 16:25:56 alterego, by any chance, do you know where painting of text selection is done? Apr 13 16:25:58 I mean, where is standard text stuff handled in Qt Apr 13 16:26:44 Not sure, must be something linked with QPainter I guess. Apr 13 16:26:57 I donmt know if Qt has anything like gtks' pange Apr 13 16:27:44 alterego, cause 4.7.2 introduced a bug Apr 13 16:27:56 if text is highlighted, non-highlighted text is white on white Apr 13 16:28:10 or black on black Apr 13 16:28:14 That's probably a theming issue Apr 13 16:28:26 it's not, already considered that Apr 13 16:28:33 And this is m5 Qt 4.7.2 right? Apr 13 16:28:43 using -style cleanlooks does the same Apr 13 16:28:47 alterego, upstream Apr 13 16:29:06 Interesting. I'd get someone to confirm in #qt Apr 13 16:29:21 well, I need to check if 4.7.2 on my PC does the same Apr 13 16:29:27 but I can't find a PPA for it, and I cba to build Apr 13 16:29:54 My theme is ugly Apr 13 16:37:25 uhhh, can anybody tell me why the new community ssu wants me to have nokia software suite installed?! Apr 13 16:37:54 probably a conflict, try apt-get install mp-fremantle-community-pr Apr 13 16:38:41 ssu is just a piece of code, it can't want anything Apr 13 16:39:01 until they start including the self-awareness module! Apr 13 16:40:07 ok, that solved it... using inbuilt app-manager wanted me to connect my n900 via usb to my pc and run from there pc-suite Apr 13 16:52:42 if I copy my CSSU transitions.ini (the one with additional settings) on a phone without any CSSU update, is there any problem? Will hildon-desktop crash? Apr 13 16:59:34 *should* not Apr 13 16:59:56 but who lmows about secrets of h-d Apr 13 17:00:03 knows* Apr 13 17:00:36 some folks hiding in Collabora do... :) Apr 13 17:01:01 general paradigm is there must not be any problems with unknown keys and empty/commented lines in ini files Apr 13 17:01:35 Robot101: do they have particular reason to hide? :-P Apr 13 17:02:22 just working on totally unrelated stuff mostly Apr 13 17:02:23 I heard QSettings segfaults on #comment lines Apr 13 17:04:40 MohammadAG: whouhou... finally finish the download of the qt git clone of qt Apr 13 17:04:42 :) Apr 13 17:07:39 ( why the new community ssu wants me to have nokia software suite ) Apr 13 17:08:05 * DocScrutinizer mentions that his HAM has not shown ANY conflicts for the update Apr 13 17:08:24 but I haven't allowed it to update yet Apr 13 17:17:10 I heard QSettings segfaults on #comment lines Apr 13 17:17:19 no, just replaces them with UTF Apr 13 17:17:29 UTF-8* Apr 13 17:18:10 haha like #0223 = ">"? Apr 13 17:19:07 anyway, thank you for the info Apr 13 17:20:13 DocScrutinizer51, sort of, yeah Apr 13 17:21:49 well, they shouldn't use plain QString for files like those Apr 13 17:22:54 prolly #1 of Qt WTFs Apr 13 17:23:55 a shame not even Qt devels get their sh*t sorted Apr 13 17:28:05 the QA for Qt products somewhat seen a scaring decay since beginning of the story Apr 13 17:32:33 ranting about it doesn't help :P Apr 13 17:32:52 sure, ranting is always the first step Apr 13 17:34:55 seious devels are happy about good rant, much more than about unqualified cheers Apr 13 17:35:58 marketing droids and HR dudes aren't exactly happy about it, but it gives them a reality check Apr 13 17:37:28 Or they just ignore you. Apr 13 17:43:55 those are the morituri Apr 13 17:45:19 and of course those living happily in autism of "I'm doing it for MY fun" Apr 13 17:45:47 yea Apr 13 18:48:43 Hi, I've installed icetea6 (java) and I'm getting an error from a java app. "UnsatisfiedLinkError: jnidispatch" Somewhere I found a similar bug for an older version of Maemo. (I'm using a n900). Any ideas to fix this? Apr 13 18:52:22 This is the error: http://fpaste.org/CX6y/ Apr 13 18:56:45 What I'm trying to do is install Gmote-server so I can use my nook color as a mouse to my n900. The reason for that is that nothing android offers is as open or as good as what maemo / hildon-desktop offer Apr 13 18:57:30 newbie007: hi Apr 13 18:57:44 newbie007: are you trying to run an android app? Apr 13 18:58:19 Only on the nook color. The Gmote-server is made for desktops Apr 13 18:58:41 newbie007: I see Apr 13 18:59:05 really what I want is hildon-desktop and repos on my nook color. But a 3d driver is stopping that from happening. Apr 13 18:59:28 Maemo is superior to andoid imho Apr 13 18:59:55 *jni*dispatch makes me think this has sth to do whith native code being accessed from java Apr 13 18:59:55 If I worked for nokia I would release all of the closed source stuff for the n900 so that maemo could then over take the android devices Apr 13 19:00:54 I'm not familiar with it myself. When I looked into the requirements for that app, it stated that only VLC was required. Apr 13 19:00:56 newbie007: not that simple. what mostly blocks porting are proprietatry closed stuffs on phones (drivers compiled agains Google libc for example, and thus incompatible withc "standard" glibc Apr 13 19:02:10 to me this looks like either a lib is missing on the java side (jni related), or some native software is missing and the java code just cannot find it Apr 13 19:02:57 if VLC is required, how is it used? direct use of the library? this is most probably native Apr 13 19:03:10 I was assuming tha ta lib is missing on the Java side. Seems like I need to find the owner of that app and start there.. ? Apr 13 19:03:23 that could explain why the java app cannot access it Apr 13 19:03:24 About vlc.. I'm not sure, but even Maemo supplies a VLC Remote viewer Apr 13 19:03:52 VLC is doing some sort of screen capture and forwarding over apache Apr 13 19:03:59 ok Apr 13 19:05:04 did you try any other java app? does it work? another way to ask: are you sure your java environment is working fine? Apr 13 19:06:45 I have not tried that, I will. It seems that running java at the command line works as expected Apr 13 19:08:48 not sure with icetea, but regular jdk (or is it sdk) embeds some java (java swing, java2D, etc.) examples apps Apr 13 19:09:09 if available, this would be a good test of your java environment working fine or not Apr 13 19:09:38 I'm looking for something now Apr 13 19:10:47 keep in mind, that even if a 100% java app runs fine, this does not show that a java app with jni calls works Apr 13 19:10:54 Yes there is a Micro Emulator program that works Apr 13 19:13:48 do you know if this uses native code? Apr 13 19:14:14 no I do not Apr 13 19:16:11 The error from the app (user friendly error message) is " /com/sun/jna/linux-arm/libjnidispatch.so not found in resouce path " Apr 13 19:16:30 ok Apr 13 19:18:14 this looks like it is looking relative to whatever paths explored by java (environment variable like JAVA_...), for a path ../com/sun/[snip]/libjnidispatch.so Apr 13 19:18:19 and cannot find it Apr 13 19:18:34 look for a file libjnidispatch.so on your computer Apr 13 19:18:38 if you cannot find it Apr 13 19:19:10 look for it in packages. You may find that this is in another package that you have not installed Apr 13 19:20:16 under debian exists a tool apt-file IIRC, that might help finding a file, and to which package it belongs, even if not installed Apr 13 19:20:52 http://www.techeye.net/business/nokia-will-lay-off-up-to-6000-next-week old? Apr 13 19:23:46 onen|openBmap: I did a "cd / " then "find | grep libjni " Apr 13 19:24:36 except for 300 "Permission denied" errors I did not find this file Apr 13 19:24:53 newbie007: faster $locate name-of-file (check the last update of the database, with updatedb command) Apr 13 19:25:35 newbie007: is apt-file available in repos? Apr 13 19:26:00 (by the way, the java you installed, does it come from regular repositories?) Apr 13 19:27:08 the java comes from the regular repos, nothing special on my part Apr 13 19:29:27 is apt-file available in repos? $sudo apt-get install apt-file ? Apr 13 19:29:55 I'm looking for it Apr 13 19:29:59 ok Apr 13 19:31:01 there is something called "aptly", also "Aptitude package manager". I already have apt-get but not apt-file Apr 13 19:33:24 maybeArgh: would it be possible for nokia workers to go rogue, and start building hildon-desktop targeted at android hardware. I personally would dump Google Market in a second, in exchange for an open alternative Apr 13 19:33:27 try: $sudo apt-get update Apr 13 19:33:30 then Apr 13 19:33:38 $apt-cache search apt-file Apr 13 19:34:44 okay will do Apr 13 19:39:52 newbie007: (sudo if used under maemo (sorry I have no maemo at hand!), otherwise you have to be root) Apr 13 19:55:16 onen|openBmap: sorry, I'm having to reboot, also seems I don't have gainroot installed... I'm getting there Apr 13 19:56:19 newbie007: what I meant is that to install package through apt-get install, you need rights to do so Apr 13 19:56:33 newbie007: and that is either by being root, or through sudo Apr 13 19:56:37 I get you Apr 13 19:56:43 newbie007: I don't know what maemo uses... Apr 13 19:57:16 I have either forgotten my root or never had it,, I think I never had it,, so getting gainroot should do it Apr 13 19:57:31 *root password Apr 13 20:09:16 I'm having dependancy issues getting apt-file.. Apr 13 20:15:39 onen|openBmap: okay I was able to perform a search using aplty, could never install apt-file. I was not able to find jnidispatch using that Apr 13 20:16:29 I can find other lib* files though Apr 13 20:17:02 well then it looks like it expects the presence of libjnidispatch.so, but if you cannot find any package which provides it... Apr 13 20:17:42 sorry I have no maemo phone for now. so I cannot look by myself :-( Apr 13 20:18:25 thanks for your help! Apr 13 20:21:43 no pb Apr 13 20:22:12 I might be able to look at it in the future though Apr 13 20:22:28 good night Apr 13 20:28:48 moo Apr 13 20:30:08 moo pupnik Apr 13 21:18:19 I really don't understand all this git nonsense. Apr 13 21:18:22 * alterego is lost Apr 13 21:25:04 alterego, merlin1991 knows git best imo :) Apr 13 21:25:59 couple year ago i used to use word `crap` along with all git-related stuff Apr 13 21:26:43 MohammadAG, h!ii! Apr 13 21:27:20 hi Apr 13 21:28:35 are you still nit-kernel maintainer? Apr 13 21:28:52 btw, when did you saw Jay-C last time? Apr 13 21:29:03 technically, yes, but I'm way too busy with CSSU and stuff Apr 13 21:29:09 umm, a year I think Apr 13 21:29:15 ~seen jay-c Apr 13 21:29:20 i haven't seen 'jay-c', MohammadAG Apr 13 21:29:49 hmm, half of year i suppose. Apr 13 21:30:33 MohammadAG, i saw cssu (why not to give it the name??:)). i'm impressed Apr 13 21:31:02 i know not everything `patchable`, but u guyz rocks Apr 13 21:31:34 * e-yes и немедленно выпил Apr 13 21:31:37 :) Apr 13 21:32:42 any idea how to use more recent toolchains for kernel (linaro, codesourcery etc)? Apr 13 21:32:59 i mean to get deb package ;) Apr 13 21:33:54 lol Apr 13 21:34:01 making debs is easy Apr 13 21:34:10 you probably already have most files, you just need to edit them Apr 13 21:34:25 you might find this helpful http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Mohammad7410/Packaging Apr 13 21:39:28 MohammadAG, thanks a lot... /me reading Apr 13 21:59:57 island, started with `bar`, caribian? Apr 14 00:28:57 e-yes, isn't barbados an island? Apr 14 00:36:50 hi, i just broke my usb connector at n900 (it was plugged in) Apr 14 00:37:49 sid: call Nokia. We symphatize. Sorry there's nothing mere mortals can do as far as i know Apr 14 00:38:06 i will open it tomorrow. but is there a second pin where i can solder a new one Apr 14 00:39:25 chx: its clearly not a guaranty issue; but it can e.g start without problems; Apr 14 00:39:49