**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Apr 15 02:59:57 2011 Apr 15 04:01:50 After someow the battery ran out even though i had plugged the wallcharger, on the next boot the status bar won't show, the operator name does show though, so does the title bar of some programs,but most programs if i try to launch will freeze the whole device Dx Apr 15 04:02:25 Can someone please help me diagnose what is happened and try to figure out how to make it work again without having to reflash? Apr 15 04:04:49 Oh, and another possible symptom of what is going on, while charging, it will keep the screen showing the throbber (the "knight rider" dots going back and forth) very dimlly, i've never noticed that before, usually it at most would light the backlight with black screen for a moment, or if it did show the throbber it quickly ewwnt away Apr 15 04:06:29 Any ideas? Apr 15 04:09:58 :( Apr 15 04:19:34 oh, and the key and screen sounds don't play Apr 15 04:27:59 Sorry, switching clients Apr 15 04:28:23 Still no one? Apr 15 04:58:21 Absolutely no idea, sorry. Apr 15 05:09:34 :( Apr 15 05:09:47 thanx for at least replying Apr 15 05:16:44 Not a good time to not be able to count on my N900 :( Apr 15 05:24:53 no calculator? Apr 15 05:25:03 *ba dum tsss* Apr 15 05:25:50 kerio: heh. thought the same Apr 15 05:25:58 TiagoTiago: you still can do python -c "print 2 + 2" Apr 15 05:26:48 TiagoTiago: or perl -e "print 2 + 2" :) Apr 15 05:27:13 heh Apr 15 05:28:01 or even in shell! echo $((2 + 2)) Apr 15 05:29:59 why perl? :( Apr 15 05:30:07 lol Apr 15 05:30:31 python -c "import decimal; decimal.getcontext().prec = 50000; print decimal.Decimal(2) + decimal.Decimal(2)" Apr 15 05:31:08 kerio: because it's in default system install, while python isn't :P Apr 15 05:34:42 is there a way i can activate synchronization of time with the cell network? Apr 15 05:34:50 oops Apr 15 05:34:54 i mean via console Apr 15 05:35:10 * slonopotamus haven't seen any cell operator that supported time sync yet Apr 15 05:36:24 dunno, some 10kb-long dbus call might do that :) Apr 15 05:36:32 mine does, but with the status bar MIA and the Clock program being among the ones that freeze the whole thing if i try to open, i can't activate it via the GUI Apr 15 05:38:31 What is the command to restart the status bar? Apr 15 05:39:03 (i don't mean clear the settings, i mean reset the program/daemon/whatever) Apr 15 05:39:16 like, dbus-send com.nokia.osso.closed.time.sync.service com.nokia.proprietary.time.sync.activation.msg_osso org.freedesktop.extensions.osso.YES_PLEASE Apr 15 05:40:49 reboot Apr 15 05:41:44 it isn't showing after a reboot Apr 15 05:44:17 Anything i should look for on syslog? Apr 15 05:44:36 time sync through mobile network sucks anyway Apr 15 05:45:56 better than setting the time manually at least Apr 15 05:50:16 It isn't safe to unmount /home and run fsck on it, is it? Apr 15 05:51:17 nope Apr 15 05:51:19 just reflash Apr 15 05:58:02 lots of shit to backup, and i can't trust the electrict grid over here (i plan on getting a no-break soon, but it's not gonna be immediate) Apr 15 06:01:46 ah, i keep forgeting it's called a "UPS" in english Apr 15 06:03:06 over here even though the language isn't English we call them "no-breaks", pronouncing the words as in English Apr 15 06:06:15 get a laptop Apr 15 06:06:18 :3 Apr 15 06:07:22 I was hoping i could fix this before going to bed Apr 15 06:08:34 install openntpd Apr 15 06:11:58 no, i mean the N900 itself, not just the clock Apr 15 06:14:36 I didn't paid much attention to the joined msgs, were you here when i described my main issue? Apr 15 06:14:50 i was still asleep, probably Apr 15 06:16:52 After the battery somehow ran out even though i had the wall charger plugged, when i booted the device again the status bar won't show, and trying to launch most programs will freeze all the device, also the system sounds don't play Apr 15 06:17:40 the operator name and the titlebar of programs that do launch still show though Apr 15 06:18:44 check if the battery is actually ok, and reflash Apr 15 06:19:05 i mean it will freeze the device whole (though holding the power key does shut it down, and the backlight does time out and get relit if i open the keyboard) Apr 15 06:19:30 right now reflashing isn't an option Apr 15 06:19:44 why not? the potential for screwing up is like 2µs Apr 15 06:20:09 got lots of shit to backup Apr 15 06:20:28 really? i thought it would take a couple of minutes Apr 15 06:21:00 it takes around that, yeah, but the battery will power the device all the time anyway Apr 15 06:21:17 except for that tiny window where something *could* go badly if the power fails Apr 15 06:21:25 (cit. SpeedEvil) Apr 15 06:22:01 it's actually about 4ms Apr 15 06:22:12 so 2000 times more than what i said :3 Apr 15 06:23:00 i thought it would take more time to transfer the image and stuff Apr 15 06:23:31 yeah, but if the power fails you won't brick the n900 Apr 15 06:24:12 also, it's gonna be a pain reinstalling everything while i'm only on a thortled down 3g connection (will be getting a WiFi router when i get the UPS) Apr 15 06:24:30 usb networking? :) Apr 15 06:25:37 Haven't set it up yet, do i need to set anything on the device itself or just setting the PC and sticking the cable and it's good? Apr 15 06:26:00 set pc and n900 and you have internets Apr 15 06:26:19 yeah, you just need the standard cable Apr 15 06:26:42 does the settings on the N900 can be done easilly just with terminal? Apr 15 06:27:24 I can get the terminal with the keyboard shortcut, but seems just about anything else i try to launch makes the device unresponsive Apr 15 06:29:09 Any idea how i can diagose and try to fix whatever went screwy after it forced a shutdown due to lack of charge? Apr 15 06:29:56 Is there anything i could look for in syslog? Apr 15 06:30:35 or any other log that is expected to be there reall Apr 15 06:30:39 really* Apr 15 06:32:27 http://www.reghardware.com/2011/04/15/review_sonim_xp3300_force_rugged_mobile_phone/ <-- mmmm nice... Apr 15 06:34:45 :( Apr 15 06:37:00 good morning Maemo :) Apr 15 06:37:56 at least with a BSOD you get a cryptic number you can google to get a bit more info about the problem :/ Apr 15 06:56:20 :( Apr 15 07:04:10 I don't wanna have to give up and go sleep :( Apr 15 07:07:11 good morning Apr 15 07:07:24 i wish Apr 15 07:08:13 somthing went bad after the battery ran out and my N900 is just about unusable :( Apr 15 07:22:52 Is it normal to not have a /lib/init folder? Apr 15 07:23:44 Nope Apr 15 07:23:57 I don't have one if that's what you mean. Apr 15 07:25:59 i found a orphan symlink, /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon is pointing to a nonexistent /lib/init/upstart-job , dunno what it means though Apr 15 07:30:07 Is there a log somewhere that would mention errors that happened related to the status bar? Apr 15 07:46:54 Ok, is the file /usr/sbin/immvibed present on your N900? Apr 15 08:03:00 crap, i think i have to go sleep (can't hold my eyes open anymore) without fixing my N900 :( Apr 15 08:03:41 good nite to y'll Apr 15 08:04:31 y'all* Apr 15 08:11:43 hi Apr 15 08:18:55 Morning Apr 15 08:22:00 g'moaning Apr 15 09:08:44 morning Apr 15 09:20:52 Promising that "we will have an over the air email client to announce very very soon," RIM Co-CEO Jim Balsillie also spoke of the reaction to the PlayBook tablet in the first wave of reviews. Labelling that it wasn't "fair" reviewers suggested they rushed the tablet out too fast, he also failed to convince the watcher why they should buy the PlayBook. Apr 15 09:21:00 [minor facepalm] Apr 15 09:38:37 DocScrutinizer, you here? Apr 15 10:23:18 not really Apr 15 10:27:17 * khertan is currently installing scratchbox Apr 15 10:55:07 hullo Apr 15 10:56:28 o/ pupnik_ Apr 15 10:57:21 MohammadAG: https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qt/commit/a282eb79745998c38055690577ed829586a00bb1 <<< this one look suspect to me :) Apr 15 10:57:57 MohammadAG: anyway i'm currently installing scratchbox and will revert commit until it s works Apr 15 10:57:57 :) Apr 15 10:58:20 mece: KhtEditor 1.0.1 available in extras devel with work arround for QTBUG-18720 Apr 15 10:58:21 :) Apr 15 11:01:12 hmm, must MyDocs use Fat32? or can i use ext3 there too? Apr 15 11:03:48 khertan, great! I updated but haven't tested yet. Apr 15 11:04:28 ThreeM: Possible, but it's going to take some work I think Apr 15 11:07:25 khertan, I seem to be having the same problem as before... Apr 15 11:09:39 how can I add folders to ossofilemanager? Or where does ossofilemanager gets its information from? Apr 15 11:09:50 mece: activated in prefs ? Apr 15 11:10:17 MohammadAG: is it the qtexperimental package on cssu or did you made your own ? Apr 15 11:10:20 ooh.. lemme check Apr 15 11:11:54 khertan, ah yes. Works now. Would it be possible to add the preferences button to the menu of opened files too btw? Apr 15 11:12:14 khertan, upstream packaged using upstream rules Apr 15 11:12:26 I just moved it into /usr and added the optification steps Apr 15 11:14:46 it was a question from harryf about qtbug-18720 on #qt-maemo Apr 15 11:15:07 * khertan is still downloading scratchbox Apr 15 11:15:40 o/ Apr 15 11:23:04 solved, gnomevfs. Apr 15 11:26:28 Hi all, is there a theme gallery for n900? Randomly trying theme packages is extremely annoying, especially since most of the themes seem to be a variation on black buttons on black background Apr 15 11:26:49 you mean like an app? Apr 15 11:26:56 the most iirc is some website with themes Apr 15 11:32:48 ruskie: I meant a web page containing the themes in standard repos Apr 15 12:10:30 And scratchbox install failed ... pfff Apr 15 12:18:01 khertan, hey sweetie Apr 15 12:18:27 hey ZogG Apr 15 12:18:46 khertan, i think you broke something in new experimental version Apr 15 12:18:53 probably :) Apr 15 12:18:57 answers don't work for old tweets Apr 15 12:19:19 i mean i left it open for several hours - went down to check tweets - answered - nothing Apr 15 12:19:38 and btw no tweet sent popup anymore =(((( Apr 15 12:19:54 could you pastebin content of /home/user/.khweeteur.log Apr 15 12:20:07 ZogG: yep the popup was removed ... but could be readded :) Apr 15 12:20:20 with a little option Apr 15 12:20:45 khertan sure Apr 15 12:20:47 wait Apr 15 12:21:25 btw is there anything simuliar to wgetpaste on maemo? Apr 15 12:23:06 khertan, it's reaaaly long file =) Apr 15 12:24:34 yes Apr 15 12:24:42 it s a debug release :) Apr 15 12:25:03 in fact this is worst than that ... it s an experimental release :) Apr 15 12:25:41 khertan, i'm not gentoo ~amd64, it's okay Apr 15 12:25:48 and i don't care if it helps you anyway =) Apr 15 12:26:15 thx Apr 15 12:26:16 :) Apr 15 12:26:37 i use all day the devel version Apr 15 12:26:44 sometime i got some surprize Apr 15 12:26:51 but else works well :) Apr 15 12:26:53 i didn't see my twwets coming as i said and than i just wrote new tweet and asnwered and it worked Apr 15 12:27:28 khertan, btw if i updgrade and daemon is running and i open new version it restarts daemon? Apr 15 12:27:55 nope Apr 15 12:27:56 :) Apr 15 12:28:14 the post rm package should restart daemon Apr 15 12:28:43 ok Apr 15 12:29:17 but for any reason if the communication between the daemon and the ui is broken we lost the message Apr 15 12:29:26 this is why i ve rewrite this part for 0.5.5 Apr 15 12:30:49 khertan, i'll upload to dropbox =) Apr 15 12:31:08 :) Apr 15 12:33:09 ZogG: normally version 0.5.5 should be available shortly :) Apr 15 12:33:21 khertan, pm'ed Apr 15 12:33:35 1.7 mb Apr 15 12:33:36 =) Apr 15 12:34:13 ouh ... indeed nice log Apr 15 12:34:13 :) Apr 15 12:34:31 i just flashed friends mytouch4g with custom ROM and jailbreaked iphone4 of other friend, maemo is the best!!! Apr 15 12:34:43 :) Apr 15 12:35:12 khertan if you whenever need log or something, or want to sleep with my biatches or ride my pimp cars, just talk to me =) Apr 15 12:35:34 :) Apr 15 12:35:40 ok i see what happen in the log Apr 15 12:35:46 there is a bug somewhere Apr 15 12:35:47 :) Apr 15 12:35:53 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 17-21: ordinal not in range(128) Apr 15 12:36:02 hum hum ... should be unicode everywhere Apr 15 12:36:17 but currently i ll go to made some repairs on my car ... Apr 15 12:36:42 need to change some brakes part. Apr 15 12:36:44 s Apr 15 12:36:46 khertan ok man. i tweet in russian and can check hebrew as well Apr 15 12:37:41 :) my unicode test is a test repeated 16 time in russian : Apr 15 12:37:42 :) Apr 15 12:38:19 тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест тест Apr 15 12:38:21 :) Apr 15 12:39:26 khertan btw i know how to deal with private feeds retweet Apr 15 12:39:46 and popups of sent is maybe useless but popups of errors are still should be able Apr 15 12:40:00 yep Apr 15 12:40:07 but there should not be error :) Apr 15 12:40:21 there are always error Apr 15 12:40:22 errors aren't an option Apr 15 12:40:25 timeouts for example Apr 15 12:40:32 nope Apr 15 12:40:38 and it can be not khweeteur fault even Apr 15 12:40:49 in case of timeout tweet is resend later Apr 15 12:40:52 i know you have save and send later Apr 15 12:40:52 :) Apr 15 12:41:07 and if it s twitter fault Apr 15 12:41:11 ... khweeteur spam it :) Apr 15 12:41:24 but it should be mentioned as i do hope to see my tweet and i panic if i wouldn't - so at least i know =) Apr 15 12:41:25 yep ... error display should be here :) Apr 15 12:52:21 damn. my phone battery, or bme or usb connection is broken Apr 15 12:52:31 it's not charging like it should Apr 15 12:52:39 it stopps or sometimes doesn't start at all =( Apr 15 12:52:43 it ameks me sad Apr 15 13:28:36 hi Apr 15 13:30:43 yesterday after a forced shutdown due to low battery, when i boooted it up again my N900 is all messed up; the status bar won't show, no system sounds, and trying to launch most programs cause the device to become unresponsive Apr 15 13:31:00 i wanna leave reflashing as the very last resort Apr 15 13:32:41 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=72170 <- thread 'bout my issue Apr 15 13:33:42 would there be a way to copy just the files that are missing without overwriting anything that is already there? Apr 15 13:34:19 may god help u Apr 15 13:39:20 :( Apr 15 13:48:30 is it really that hopeless? :/ Apr 15 13:50:06 anyone know what network the debian channel is on? Apr 15 13:50:33 Viliny_on_N900: #debian is on oftc Apr 15 13:51:24 oftc? Apr 15 14:14:42 crap, it rebooted while running photorec :/ Apr 15 15:03:07 i got a modified partition table that gives /home more space, if i just reflash the rootfs with the original image will that be an issue? Apr 15 15:20:25 i got a modified partition table that gives /home more space, if i just reflash the rootfs with the original image will that be an issue? Apr 15 15:31:38 TiagoTiago: you can just modify emmc Apr 15 15:31:40 TiagoTiago: for that Apr 15 15:31:49 TiagoTiago: modify emmc image* Apr 15 15:32:01 TiagoTiago: and no it's not ok Apr 15 15:32:09 TiagoTiago: there is some stuff on emmc image that has to be there Apr 15 15:32:18 TiagoTiago: it's simpler to modify emmc image Apr 15 15:32:23 TiagoTiago: just get any hex editor Apr 15 15:32:31 TiagoTiago: search for 2048 and change it to whatever you want Apr 15 15:36:46 i forgot the exact value i used Apr 15 15:38:55 i don't wanna loose my data Apr 15 15:39:50 make a backup Apr 15 15:40:23 kinda hard to do with the state the device currently is... Apr 15 15:41:37 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=72170 Apr 15 15:54:12 si eveb reflashing just the kernel will overwrite the parition table? Apr 15 15:54:57 no Apr 15 15:54:58 so even* Apr 15 15:55:24 so you're just flashing kernel? Apr 15 15:55:26 not rootfs? Apr 15 15:55:40 i'm considering that possibility Apr 15 15:56:23 what gets overwritten besides the pwoer kernel, fcam driver and the wifi injection stuff? Apr 15 16:00:15 if you reflash full fiasco image only onenand get's overwritten Apr 15 16:00:15 jacekowski: ? Apr 15 16:00:55 ehh Apr 15 16:01:13 n900 has 2 user accessible nvram storage areas Apr 15 16:01:17 OneNAND and eMMC Apr 15 16:01:30 rootfs and kernel and other stuff is on OneNAND Apr 15 16:01:41 /home /opt and stuff is on eMMC Apr 15 16:01:56 rootfs is partitioned once at factory and never again Apr 15 16:02:08 I see Apr 15 16:02:17 eMMC is flashed fully by flasher Apr 15 16:02:42 When you flash just just the kernel, what stays intact in the rootfs? Apr 15 16:02:43 but question is what are you trying to do and what have you done so far Apr 15 16:03:00 if you repartitioned eMMC and wiped content of it at the same time Apr 15 16:03:05 you have to flash rootfs Apr 15 16:03:10 and it may work Apr 15 16:03:25 but normally there is some stuff on eMMC that's not on rootfs Apr 15 16:03:40 so the best way to resize partitions on emmc is to modify emmc image Apr 15 16:03:51 and do full flash of emmc + fiasco Apr 15 16:04:11 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=72170 <-thread about the issue Apr 15 16:05:50 make a backup and reflash Apr 15 16:07:54 lots of data to backup, lots of programs to reinstall, and the backup program itself seems to be not be working well right now.... Apr 15 16:15:19 well, you're supposed to make backups before shit happens Apr 15 16:15:21 not after Apr 15 16:15:26 that's the whole idea of it Apr 15 16:15:59 heh Apr 15 16:19:45 I wonder why humans in general are so relucatant to learn that lesson.... Apr 15 16:20:11 i have backups Apr 15 16:20:16 and backups of backups Apr 15 16:20:23 that's for normal files Apr 15 16:20:31 very important files are stored in 5 places Apr 15 16:21:06 people like you are a minuority by far Apr 15 16:21:38 i used to do backups only of irrecoverable and important stuff Apr 15 16:22:25 but after data loss of recoverable stuff i realised that it's way simpler and faster to recover from backup than have to redo it by hand Apr 15 16:22:37 like i had like 20 of test virtual machines Apr 15 16:22:46 with different software installed Apr 15 16:22:58 i had all cds to reinstall it but it took me whole day to do it Apr 15 16:23:24 from backup it would be just couple clicks and after while it's done Apr 15 16:24:02 * RST38h yawns. How are things tonight? Apr 15 16:24:15 boring Apr 15 16:24:38 not new, no. Apr 15 16:25:04 i'll try harder next time Apr 15 16:25:46 but right now if i can recover things without having to redo much nor risk unrecoverable data i would rather Apr 15 16:27:42 RST38h, the arch team is being picked up by Intel now. Apr 15 16:27:53 GAN: Apr 15 16:27:56 Ted Nelson, founder of first hypertext project, Project Xanadu, went on to say, 'It is a strange, distorted, peculiar and difficult limited system... the browser is built around invisible links you can see something to click on but youve got nowhere else to go.' Apr 15 16:27:56 Sakari is with Intel. Apr 15 16:28:07 Announced at LCS, apparently. Apr 15 16:28:09 -- TedNelson about WWW Apr 15 16:28:47 GAN: are they the kernel guys? Apr 15 16:30:21 Aha, I see. So, core OS and middleware, basically. Apr 15 16:33:37 Is there a list somewhere of all the files that get overwritten and folders that get deleted when you flash just the kernel? Apr 15 16:34:35 Also, is there a console version of the backup proggie? Apr 15 16:38:31 TiagoTiago: no files get overwritten Apr 15 16:38:47 The kernel is not in a file - it's in a partition Apr 15 16:38:57 a partition with files in it, no? Apr 15 16:39:02 No. Apr 15 16:39:07 No filesystem. Apr 15 16:39:23 oh, i thought it was a bunch of system binaries and configs somewhere Apr 15 16:39:37 Flashing the kernel alone may cause problems with lack of modules Apr 15 16:39:53 * TiagoTiago sighs Apr 15 16:40:07 ok, back to considering reflashing the rootfs Apr 15 16:40:17 will that touch the partition table? Apr 15 16:40:42 No. Apr 15 16:41:08 I'll loose everything outside of /home though, right? Apr 15 16:41:15 yes Apr 15 16:41:24 No. Apr 15 16:41:25 Lose. Apr 15 16:42:40 sorry, been getting a tad relapse with my spelling for some reason Apr 15 16:43:16 Sorry - I'm feeling pointlessly eunastic. Apr 15 16:45:52 ennuistic even. Apr 15 16:46:14 what about getting a job? Apr 15 16:46:39 i can't find either on Wiktionary :/ Apr 15 16:47:01 I have major problems concentrating or doing anything for periods of time exceeding a few minutes without lying down most of the time. Apr 15 16:47:14 http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ennui Apr 15 16:47:43 TRoday, making two shelves for my wardrobe has just about exhausted me. Apr 15 16:48:47 I saw a thing about a condition like that on FOX News a while ago, i think it was called Chronic Fatigue Syndrome or somthing Apr 15 16:49:05 I'm familiar withthe condition. It's not a whole heap of fun. Apr 15 16:49:38 indeed doesn't sound like it would be Apr 15 16:53:59 Under my situation ( http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=72170 ) would you recommend against reflashing rootfs for any reason? Apr 15 16:55:02 SpeedEvil, ennuistic, I like that. Apr 15 16:55:48 at least that can't be misspelled as "board" Apr 15 17:05:56 be back in a moment Apr 15 17:13:54 back Apr 15 17:38:23 damn, the latest subversion segfaults Apr 15 17:45:02 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=72170 <- what are the risks involved if i reflash the rootfs? And what am i expected to have to install and set again? Apr 15 17:49:07 is there a way to debug gps on the n900? i can't see a satellite with mappero Apr 15 17:49:57 nvm i should just activate it in settings, doh Apr 15 17:51:01 TiagoTiago: flashing from a PC? Apr 15 17:51:33 yeah Apr 15 17:51:45 TiagoTiago: risks, not really. and you'd be reinstalling the lot Apr 15 17:52:06 TiagoTiago: stuff in ~/MyDocs shouldn't be effected. other stuff in ~/ will go Apr 15 17:52:23 so for most apps, that means your settings go and your documents stay Apr 15 17:52:36 if you've got a shell, back stuff up Apr 15 17:53:07 Why did they thought it was a good idea to keep user programs together with system files? Apr 15 17:53:29 i approve Apr 15 17:53:38 the last thing maemo needs is *more* partitions Apr 15 17:53:47 they aren't kept together; they're just on the same filesystem Apr 15 17:54:14 backup ~/ apart from ~/MyDocs and you've got settings for most applications Apr 15 17:55:10 i shouldn't need to reinstall programs just to replace missing/corrupt system files :( Apr 15 17:55:47 well, work out how to fix the problem then Apr 15 17:56:05 or, do the convinient thing and reset more than you really need to to factory settings Apr 15 17:56:15 (i recommend making backups, then doing the latter) Apr 15 17:56:42 i need help figuring out what went wrong, not all that fluent in the systems involved Apr 15 17:59:28 Having to resintall so much shit over a throtled down 3g connection or hanging a metter from the PC i would rather avoid.... Apr 15 18:03:23 it would already be a pain with broadband over WiFi 'cause of the slowdowns during installations Apr 15 18:04:33 ffs Apr 15 18:04:47 I need to demo some Qt app to someone on Symbian^3 and the damn QtSDK fails to build Apr 15 18:05:17 :( Apr 15 18:07:16 good luck there Apr 15 18:08:00 the TRK shows the port correctly, the SDK doesn't even detect the device Apr 15 18:08:22 TiagoTiago: backup your apt cache Apr 15 18:09:49 corrupt system files? Apr 15 18:10:08 Is it only me, or is the camera ui slower when attempting to focus with half a press? Apr 15 18:10:21 i think i have it symlinked to spmehwere inside /home , not shure how far back the cache goes though Apr 15 18:10:33 MohammadAG: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=72170 Apr 15 18:10:47 forgot to mention: on the latest cssu Apr 15 18:11:55 try apt-get --reinstall install hildon-status-menu Apr 15 18:12:07 that should bring back the status menu Apr 15 18:13:05 alright, booting up to try that Apr 15 18:21:13 should i need to reboot to see the effect? Apr 15 18:22:01 well, rebooting Apr 15 18:26:16 system sounds still missing, at least in the pin entry screen Apr 15 18:30:03 MohammadAG: i tried reinstalling hildon-status-menu it didn't error out, but nothing change :( Apr 15 18:35:15 what if you run it manually? Apr 15 18:35:23 btw, seems vibrations are also gone Apr 15 18:35:35 hildon-status-menu? lemme try Apr 15 18:35:51 good evening Maemo! :) Apr 15 18:36:24 now it shows Apr 15 18:37:04 sounds are back too Apr 15 18:38:14 It even got all the buttons it usually have in the statusbar menu Apr 15 18:40:35 Correction, only some of the sounds Apr 15 18:40:41 no keys it seems Apr 15 18:40:52 no screen Apr 15 18:40:59 nor* Apr 15 18:42:16 okay so is there ANY way to do L2TP/IPsec on maemo? Apr 15 18:42:23 (with the power kernel) Apr 15 18:49:08 Sazpaimon_: Normal ipsec is in extras-testing. Look for strongswan Apr 15 18:49:38 I have strong swan, but that seems to use IKEv2 Apr 15 18:49:56 Sazpaimon_: True that Apr 15 18:50:00 I specifically need l2tp Apr 15 18:51:46 i can pay $5 more a month for openvpn, but before I do that, I'd like to know if I can use l2tp Apr 15 18:53:06 Is that anything like Hamachi? Apr 15 18:53:31 kind of, yeah Apr 15 18:53:44 it's with another providor though Apr 15 18:55:44 You can kinda use Hamachi, no GUI though Apr 15 18:56:05 I'd prefer to use the VPN account I pay for, personallu Apr 15 18:56:09 *personally Apr 15 18:56:42 and for what exactly you need that in you n900 ? Apr 15 18:57:16 Connect to your home/office machines anywhere you go as if they were on the local network? Apr 15 18:57:37 ssh tunnel ? Apr 15 18:57:46 I think so Apr 15 18:57:55 haven't tried yet Apr 15 18:58:15 and my N900 is down right now :( Apr 15 18:58:30 a vpn allows me to keep a single IP address as well, even if I'm on 3G or wifi Apr 15 18:58:32 SDL_FillRect(surface, &box, SDL_MapRGBA(surface->format,0,0,0,0)); that's not transparent :( Apr 15 18:58:56 and I can possibl;y bypass my network's NAT firewall Apr 15 19:22:14 any sybmian devs around? :P Apr 15 19:22:58 check the channel Apr 15 19:34:22 ehh i just bought "usb" charger Apr 15 19:34:27 D+ to D- Apr 15 19:34:30 50kOhms Apr 15 19:40:44 bbl Apr 15 19:50:03 hmm Apr 15 19:50:04