**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 19 02:59:56 2011 Jul 19 03:22:04 hmmm, this encryption used on the N900 password protected backups smacks a lot of "security by obscurity" Jul 19 03:31:34 rm Jul 19 05:36:12 nice, bug 9902 is >1y old Jul 19 05:36:13 04Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/9902 Autocleaner purged _all_ versions of sflphone-client-gnome from extras-devel Jul 19 06:19:38 can some pl help me Jul 19 06:19:46 i hosed my n900 Jul 19 06:19:54 i installed backupmenu Jul 19 06:20:20 backupmenu works Jul 19 06:20:26 good morning Jul 19 06:20:44 but if i try normal boot all i get is black screen with cock Jul 19 06:20:49 clock* Jul 19 06:20:58 mornin Termana Jul 19 06:22:00 someone please help me Jul 19 06:22:45 * dm8tbr doesn't have the slightest idea what backupmenu is Jul 19 06:23:09 why don't you just reflash your device Jul 19 06:23:34 i hope to fix it Jul 19 06:23:42 its so much work Jul 19 06:23:50 to set up all new Jul 19 06:24:10 then ask the people who made this 'backupmenu'... Jul 19 06:24:59 many ppl on tmo use it Jul 19 06:25:09 ask on tmo? Jul 19 06:25:14 im tryin Jul 19 06:25:30 * dm8tbr goes to mind his own business Jul 19 06:36:53 robbie Jul 19 06:37:02 ure the man i need Jul 19 06:37:10 i installed backupmenu Jul 19 06:37:20 backupmenu works Jul 19 06:37:27 but if i try normal boot all i get is black screen with cock Jul 19 06:37:43 or sometimes a single widget Jul 19 06:37:44 casketizer: i have BM, but haven't yet 'learnt its tricks'. Hang on, he's normally here e Jul 19 06:37:55 he just joined Jul 19 06:38:18 lol, always forgetting *l* Jul 19 06:38:45 it seems hildon home or dsktop isnt loading Jul 19 06:39:13 shit Jul 19 06:39:25 this had to happen today Jul 19 06:39:56 :P Jul 19 06:40:11 Um Jul 19 06:40:23 Make sure the optfs was restored/backed up same as the rootfs Jul 19 06:40:32 You need to do both at once, generally Jul 19 06:40:37 i didnt bakup a thing Jul 19 06:40:50 i just installed bm Jul 19 06:40:55 rebooted Jul 19 06:40:59 bm works Jul 19 06:41:00 And didn't restore anything through my program? Then, um... it has nothing to do with it. Jul 19 06:41:09 maemo doesnt Jul 19 06:41:20 I'd try going into BM and run fsck Jul 19 06:41:28 did that Jul 19 06:41:36 any errors? Jul 19 06:41:40 no Jul 19 06:41:51 Hm... Got a Linux PC? Jul 19 06:41:55 no Jul 19 06:42:01 Oh, ok Jul 19 06:42:14 hm... I forget if I've got badblocks on there... Jul 19 06:42:21 That'd be where I'd check first Jul 19 06:42:28 i.e. corruption on the disk Jul 19 06:42:41 it seems hildon-home isnt started Jul 19 06:42:53 it barfs after the nokia hands Jul 19 06:43:08 hmmm Jul 19 06:43:24 now its a rebootloop after nokia hands Jul 19 06:43:39 Ah, yea. Definite corruption Jul 19 06:44:08 it could be full footfs Jul 19 06:44:11 That happened to me a couple times. First boot(after a reboot having not rebooted in a while) would sort of work, second wouldn Jul 19 06:44:23 i had syslog on Jul 19 06:44:29 Maby, but I'd suspect OptFS corruption more than anything Jul 19 06:44:31 but yesterday was 32mb free Jul 19 06:44:42 Oh. Go into BM, hit terminal mode Jul 19 06:45:03 run 'mountroot', cd /tmp/mnt/rootfs, read your log and see what the issue is Jul 19 06:45:08 i cant login Jul 19 06:45:19 Oh, didn't install ssh/set your password? Darn. Jul 19 06:45:27 You *can* do one thing though Jul 19 06:45:30 root has ssh passwd Jul 19 06:45:38 Yes Jul 19 06:45:42 but it always say wrong passwd Jul 19 06:46:02 Make sure you're pressing the shift/alt+key simultaniously Jul 19 06:46:07 can't press alt, then key Jul 19 06:46:21 huh? Jul 19 06:47:08 Um...say you want "W". Instead of pressing "shift", releasing it, then pressing "w"(which works in maemo), you have to press both keys at the same time. Jul 19 06:47:50 check pm pls Jul 19 06:48:56 i always get interruped before i can complete the passwd Jul 19 06:49:05 i think thats the prob Jul 19 06:49:52 Hm... I dunno. In that case, go into backup mode, make a backup to SD or MyDocs. Jul 19 06:49:56 backup both Jul 19 06:50:27 Once it's done, you can connect the device over USB to your computer, hit "w" for usb mass storage mode, and copy your backup files over Jul 19 06:50:59 They're just tar files, so you can open it and extract whatever logs you want Jul 19 06:51:28 it says login incorrect Jul 19 06:51:40 im sure i got it right tho Jul 19 06:51:54 Ignore it for now. 3 wrong logins and you'll be back to the main menu Jul 19 06:52:17 yea Jul 19 06:52:47 so what can i do? Jul 19 06:53:07 Ok Jul 19 06:53:12 First, reboot Jul 19 06:53:16 back into BM Jul 19 06:53:42 Hold down the hold switch(side switch) for a second or press the reboot key Jul 19 06:54:26 hi Jul 19 06:54:49 seems like my n900 drains battery power like hell, ~20% per hour. anything to check? Jul 19 06:55:20 powertop says 540 wakeups per second :/ Jul 19 06:56:13 Uh, open up htop Jul 19 06:58:28 Xorg is the highest one (except htop of course) Jul 19 06:59:16 waitr Jul 19 06:59:30 Tap the 'time+' column Jul 19 06:59:39 What's the top couple of items Jul 19 07:00:21 Xorg, hildon-desktop, fmrdsnotify, hildon-status-menu, dbus-daemon, hildon-home Jul 19 07:00:35 I guess I will deinstall fmrdsnotify to test Jul 19 07:01:16 How much does hildon-desktop have? Jul 19 07:01:25 and what's the uptime? Jul 19 07:01:55 uptime is 20 minutes, hildon-desktop has 0:30.12 Jul 19 07:02:33 Ok, that's fine. Xorg? Jul 19 07:03:02 0:43.80 Jul 19 07:03:27 Still fairly low Jul 19 07:03:46 I'd go close all programs, let the device sit for an hour or so. Jul 19 07:04:01 see what's gotten really high Jul 19 07:04:23 yes, good idea. thanks! Jul 19 08:35:06 morning Jul 19 08:40:54 does anyone know how to permanently disable display timeout in n900? Jul 19 08:41:04 i had it Jul 19 08:41:24 but i just reflashed and cant find it Jul 19 08:41:38 casketizer, Simple Brightness Applet? Jul 19 08:41:48 could be Jul 19 08:42:01 ill check that when installed Jul 19 08:44:20 I am getting closer to figuring out the encryption used for the osso-backup password protected backups on the N900 Jul 19 08:44:22 :) Jul 19 08:44:49 It screams "security through obscurity" to me Jul 19 08:45:05 Although the security is strong enough if the password is good Jul 19 08:45:10 since its using AES :) Jul 19 09:02:06 do you guys know who is the man behind quassel2go? Jul 19 09:33:50 * robbiethe1st wondered what was going on: 2 xchat instances. Jul 19 09:37:23 appman is soooooo slowwwwwwwww :P Jul 19 09:41:49 Yes Jul 19 09:41:54 I use apt-get always myself Jul 19 09:42:03 you can use faster application manager Jul 19 09:43:47 i normalli use apt too Jul 19 09:43:57 or fapman Jul 19 09:44:06 doing restore atm Jul 19 09:46:28 I see that /sys/devices/platform/gpio-switch/cam_focus/disable Jul 19 09:48:27 lol, battery eye reports that my battery % raised in last three hours idling on the table Jul 19 09:48:57 so, what does that mean? dying battery? phone was purchased in Dec 2009 Jul 19 09:49:33 magic induction table :) Jul 19 09:51:02 gets set to 1 when the device is locked Jul 19 09:51:04 vi__, i see you haha Jul 19 09:51:27 psychologe: wut? Jul 19 09:51:44 thresh: you may be onto something here Jul 19 09:51:58 reversing entropy is something really really hard to do Jul 19 09:52:15 (also it's just bme being stupid as usual) Jul 19 09:52:16 thresh: your phone is not reverse traversing quantum space Jul 19 09:52:31 thresh: it corks out battery form voltage Jul 19 09:52:44 thresh: it is just BME being gay Jul 19 09:52:58 psychologe: WTF are you on? Jul 19 09:53:18 vi__: i doubt bme is particularly happy Jul 19 09:53:35 kerio: bme is just plain shite Jul 19 09:53:55 meh :( Jul 19 09:54:25 why is there no replacement for it? Jul 19 09:58:59 kerio: becasue is some gay ass scam nokia bundled a whole bunch of 'IP' into it and made it a user/kernel space frankenbeast. To replace it would brake/unfix soo much stuff Jul 19 09:59:02 . Jul 19 10:00:28 although an interesting set script of scripts have turned up on the forum (thanks to shadowjk, joerg and some others i cannot recall right now) Jul 19 10:00:56 that could potentially be used to chuck BME. Jul 19 10:01:35 actually, if you have an algorithim for doing the charging with the low-level drivers and hardware, implementing the interface used by the other bits of the system to talk to BME isnt hard Jul 19 10:01:47 I posted some docs documenting the bits you need to implement for that somewhere Jul 19 10:01:51 on the mailing list IIRC Jul 19 10:02:00 ~dict IIRC Jul 19 10:02:03 Dictionary 'IIRC' (3): // Common abbreviation for "If I Recall Correctly". ;; If I recall/remember correctly. (1996-11-28) ;; If I Remember/Recall Correctly (Usenet, IRC, telecommunication-slang). Jul 19 10:03:21 AFAIK the only thing missing from shadowjk charging script is a method of updating HAL as to the state of charge/battery Jul 19 10:03:42 ~wtf wtf Jul 19 10:03:43 however that is more or less irrelevant as the only thing using HAL for battery ios the battery status widget Jul 19 10:03:44 WTF: {what,where,who,why} the fuck Jul 19 10:04:00 which is shit anyway Jul 19 10:04:07 and there are replacements available Jul 19 10:05:12 no, there are other things using HAL for battery Jul 19 10:07:49 such as? Jul 19 10:08:28 that isnt replaced by the bq27xxx module Jul 19 10:10:31 what is the preferred way to package python packages? (for n900) IIRC someone was pushing some script to do the packaging work Jul 19 10:20:00 edheldil, didn't you ask the *exact* same question yesterday? Jul 19 10:21:18 the cameraui, fmtxd, mce battery plugin, hildon-games-wrapper, libqtsysteminfo, mediaplayer, mission-control, intellisyncd, actingdead systemui plugin and battery status bar widget all rely on hald-addon-bme Jul 19 10:21:26 either the HAL or dbus interfaces that hald-addon-bme exposes Jul 19 10:24:07 Hey all Jul 19 10:26:47 upstart is some mystery to me .. i added a new thing to event.d by copying an existing entry and giving it a new name Jul 19 10:26:56 but it doesnt get started at boot Jul 19 10:27:12 is there anything else i need to configure to start jobs? Jul 19 10:35:09 not that I would know but what if you moved the script (or copy it) to init.d and add a symlink to it from rc2.d? Jul 19 10:41:01 psycho_oreos: event.d/ configs are quite different to init.d/ scripts, but eventually if i cant tame upstart i just do that Jul 19 10:54:09 how come dbus call: Jul 19 10:54:13 dbus-send /com/nokia/hildon_desktop com.nokia.hildon_desktop.exit_app_view Jul 19 10:54:28 only works once then subsequantly does nothing? Jul 19 10:55:08 it show task switcher btw Jul 19 10:55:18 wtf is everyone? Jul 19 11:05:49 I try to login N900 from Notebook's ssh. but it need a password. I do not know what's the password for user or root . how to know that password ? Jul 19 11:06:43 You have to set it Jul 19 11:06:48 with passwd Jul 19 11:06:54 on the device Jul 19 11:07:03 there's no passwd for user, there is a passwd however for root Jul 19 11:07:51 in fact iirc user logins were forbidden externally, they had exclamation marks for passwd field in /etc/passwd Jul 19 11:09:02 no passwd for user ? Jul 19 11:09:06 yep Jul 19 11:10:19 mgedmin: so how to login N900 user from Notebook ? Jul 19 11:10:36 like psycho_oreos said: first open a terminal on the N900 and set the user's password with 'passwd' Jul 19 11:10:50 I wonder if you need to be root to do that...? Jul 19 11:11:06 hey, actually, when you install openssh-server, doesn't it pop a dialog asking you to set a user password? Jul 19 11:11:15 it's been ages since I did that, but IIRC it did! Jul 19 11:11:16 it does Jul 19 11:11:18 passwd without specifying another user doesn't require root's passwd Jul 19 11:11:22 so the password you entered there is the password you use to login Jul 19 11:11:32 and if you didn't install openssh-server, then you can't login remotely anyway Jul 19 11:11:32 that's for root iirc Jul 19 11:11:38 mgedmin: I remember, try it again. Jul 19 11:11:55 I does setted one password for ssh Jul 19 11:12:01 psycho_oreos, when you run passwd as non-root on normal linux distros it asks for your *current* password Jul 19 11:12:03 well you can also install ssh-switcher? I think it has openssh-server as a dependency Jul 19 11:12:09 so I wonder how that would work when the current password was not set Jul 19 11:12:42 mgedmin, I'm pretty sure in normal circumstances it won't ask your current password if your account does not allow external login :) Jul 19 11:12:50 anyway, psycho_oreos says openssh-server installer sets the root password, not the user password Jul 19 11:13:02 so when you ssh to your n900 be sure you ssh to root@... Jul 19 11:13:04 mgedmin: damn it, I tried 6 times, I am sure I forggten that ssh password .... Jul 19 11:13:41 If i reinstall ssh-server, will it re-ask me that password ? Jul 19 11:13:56 no password for user by default.. you set it as root, passwd user... openssh-server needs u to set rootpasssword at install Jul 19 11:14:13 s/ootpa/oot pa/ Jul 19 11:14:13 Sicelo meant: no password for user by default.. you set it as root, passwd user... openssh-server needs u to set root passsword at install Jul 19 11:14:25 there are other ways of changing root password without having to reinstall openssh-server Jul 19 11:14:44 Evanescence, worst case, there's a package in extras that gives you passwordless root Jul 19 11:14:48 Sicelo: yeah, I did. but 6 times wrong root password. Jul 19 11:14:49 e.g. rootsh, gainroot, (r&d mode) Jul 19 11:14:53 then you can reset the root passw to anything you like Jul 19 11:15:11 psycho_oreos: let me install and try. Jul 19 11:16:11 personally, I change 'user:!:' to 'user:*:' in /etc/passwd and then drop a /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys file for passwordless logins Jul 19 11:16:19 lol maybe should try the default root passwd :D Jul 19 11:16:42 maemo 5 didn't have a default root passwd, afair Jul 19 11:16:51 it does Jul 19 11:17:53 * mgedmin is not going to reflash his n900 just to prove psycho_oreos wrong Jul 19 11:19:42 It works now, thanks, I install gainroot, and posswd root. Thanks Jul 19 11:20:34 mgedmin, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maemo#Security <--- 1st paragraph, 3rd line :) Jul 19 11:21:01 hi, BTW, I find that I start /usr/sbin/sshd from root. Then when I close terminal, the ssh server will be close too. why ? Jul 19 11:21:04 interesting username Jul 19 11:21:09 but it doesn't specify the maemo version Jul 19 11:21:10 I even have the encrypted/salted root string which I once ran john on it :) same result as what wikipedia wrote Jul 19 11:21:14 maemo 4 had root:rootme Jul 19 11:21:26 and harmattan comes with root:rootme and openssh-server preinstalled Jul 19 11:21:49 probably the way sshd is configured Jul 19 11:21:49 eh Jul 19 11:21:54 maemo 5, otoh, came with a locked root account in the firmware image Jul 19 11:22:09 preinstalled and with a password set? tell me its not actually running by default? Jul 19 11:22:14 which, I guess, is why openssh-server has that postinst script to set the root pwd Jul 19 11:22:27 nid0, on a n950? yes, it's running by default Jul 19 11:22:32 :\ Jul 19 11:22:48 it's a developer-only image; I suppose someone decided convenience > security Jul 19 11:22:59 nice, at least saves one from installing opensshd :D Jul 19 11:23:11 s/installing/installing and configuring/ Jul 19 11:23:12 I'm pretty sure n9's final firmware image will not be like that Jul 19 11:23:12 psycho_oreos meant: nice, at least saves one from installing and configuring opensshd :D Jul 19 11:25:52 crashanddie: I did, but haven't got any answer, as far as I was able to tell. But maybe I just have a too short history Jul 19 12:13:52 any of you guys run pk47 and are using ext3 with your microSD? for some reason on mine, even after making ext3 fs several times on N900 it just refuses to mount properly, however all the errors it showed up in dmesg does not appear to concur with the same microSD　used on a linux lappy Jul 19 12:14:40 psycho_oreos: did you fixed nokias fstab generation/mount scripts too? Jul 19 12:14:47 ooh...I ranted a bit earlier about not having a decent navigation prog for n900, but only yesterday I tried modRana and it seems to be what I was looking for, I really like the snappy interface with big buttons and that it can be customized easily (even downloading maps was easy) Jul 19 12:14:53 these are seriously borked and unuseable you have to work around that Jul 19 12:15:24 (so if someone was discouraged earlier about not finding sygic anymore, I recommend to try modRana instead) Jul 19 12:15:45 and then you may use ext4 instead its noticeably faster than ext3 (but beware, there is no ext4 in the stock kernel, in case you have to replay backups from there its a bit pita) Jul 19 12:15:46 cehteh, nah haven't got to that stage, just a simple mount and it spews errors. Before it mounts the microSD but has flags 0 Jul 19 12:16:58 whats exactly the problem? Jul 19 12:17:02 I'm thinking there's something wrong with the pins on my microSD bay on N900 itself. With another microSD　card reader (microSD -> USB)　the microSD　works perfectly fine Jul 19 12:17:26 could happen some µSD seem to be incompatible Jul 19 12:17:32 rarely but happens Jul 19 12:17:56 note that there are quite some different protocols which can go over the SD bus Jul 19 12:17:57 I can't get N900 to mount my microSD　(which was formatted as ext3), it just spews up errors about corrupt fs Jul 19 12:18:13 did you mkfs on the device? Jul 19 12:18:18 hmm it works fine if the microSD has raw/no fs Jul 19 12:18:38 yeah I did, several times, and after each successful attempt at mkfs, I　tried mounting, they all come up with errors Jul 19 12:18:47 then you did something wrong .. did you partition the sd card? Jul 19 12:19:07 hey or did you got a cheap fake china SD card ;P Jul 19 12:19:12 yeah did that, created one big 32GB partition Jul 19 12:19:45 nope, this microSD card was bought legitimately from a reputable store in Taiwan, and I've tested it already with FFF, so its not a fake :) Jul 19 12:19:45 sdxc card? Jul 19 12:19:49 no Jul 19 12:19:58 FFF? Jul 19 12:20:04 fight flash fraud Jul 19 12:20:17 actually I meant to say I think the actual name of the tool was called h2 or something Jul 19 12:20:22 err f2 Jul 19 12:20:36 dunno about that Jul 19 12:20:57 there are some quite clever fakes cards Jul 19 12:21:04 lol I suck:　http://oss.digirati.com.br/f3/ Jul 19 12:21:14 if you make a 1GB partition, does that work then? Jul 19 12:21:27 hmm I　could give that a shot Jul 19 12:22:08 i'd try that rather than the tool Jul 19 12:22:15 maybe only a 256MB partition Jul 19 12:23:59 I've not seen much clever fake cards personally :) I'm sure they can't lie to f3 imo Jul 19 12:24:41 possibly Jul 19 12:25:09 but well either the card fails or you do something wrong .. Jul 19 12:26:09 usually this are user errors from my experience .. but with so much crapware SD cards around it would be possible that the card is the problem Jul 19 12:26:46 besides the n900 'officially' only supports up to 16GB, when it was released 32GB wherent available Jul 19 12:27:02 (but i heared about people successfully using 32GB cards) Jul 19 12:27:11 I　sort of wouldn't hope it would be card's fault after sinking in some good money on the second one after thoroughly testing out the first one that they weren't lying on capacities Jul 19 12:27:32 heh the irony is that I'm using 32GB card Jul 19 12:27:46 s/testing/tested/ Jul 19 12:28:45 well no idea then, SD cards have quite some delicate timing specs and some cheap ones fail that and are then unreliable or plainly broken Jul 19 12:29:00 even if not fraud, just bad quality Jul 19 12:29:31 or it could be a frail microSD port ;) like that microUSB socket Jul 19 12:29:42 so there is not only fraud with boosted capacities but also with bad controlers and buggy firmware Jul 19 12:29:56 i doubt that, try another card Jul 19 12:30:25 well check that you inserted it correctly Jul 19 12:30:46 (contacts are clean, no moisture, finger grease) Jul 19 12:31:04 and locked the latch Jul 19 12:31:38 humm, looks like its user error so far...*facepalms self* Jul 19 12:31:49 you have the back cover put back on? .. you know that removing back cover will trigger a umount? Jul 19 12:31:55 haha Jul 19 12:32:01 yeah I know and did all that Jul 19 12:32:09 what was wrong? Jul 19 12:32:19 I think my error was trying to mount /dev/mmcblk1 instead of /dev/mmcblk1p1 Jul 19 12:32:27 lol Jul 19 12:32:58 a friend of me once trashed his server by mkswap on the /home partition :P Jul 19 12:32:59 though I noticed that after mounting ext3 I still get 0 as options Jul 19 12:33:07 lol ouch Jul 19 12:33:37 I'd bet he would've had fun recovering the remnants of his data Jul 19 12:33:58 actually he just installed it anew without data :P Jul 19 12:34:36 what, no data in his /home? well he's lucky then :) Jul 19 12:35:42 nah, just admit everything is lost without trying to recover Jul 19 12:35:56 lol Jul 19 12:37:13 I've done something similar like that (actually by far on an actual scale) awhile back, something that makes me shake my head and frown when recalling it Jul 19 12:37:51 hi Jul 19 12:38:01 ih Jul 19 12:38:11 is there a way to setup scratchbox + kdevelop + cmake? Jul 19 12:38:29 i see no way to set cmake executable Jul 19 12:40:37 *shrugs* beats me Jul 19 12:52:33 * jonwil is still trying to figure out the osso-backup password protected backup encryption... Jul 19 12:53:30 joga, unzip didn't do it for you? Jul 19 12:55:17 I have identified that its using AES encryption Jul 19 12:57:44 flux, it seems osso-backup doesn't use zip passwords; it encrypts the whole zip file Jul 19 12:58:36 yes it does Jul 19 12:58:41 it uses AES encryption to do so Jul 19 12:58:44 with some extra bits Jul 19 13:03:44 Borders kaput! Jul 19 13:05:28 what do you mean borders kaput? Jul 19 13:06:12 oh I see now Jul 19 13:21:16 mgedmin, tried gpg then? Jul 19 13:21:36 talk to jonwil, it's his backup Jul 19 13:21:59 defo not GPG or anything I have seen Jul 19 13:22:11 and I am only doing it beccause I am interesting in figuring it out and documenting it for the community Jul 19 13:22:16 not because I need it myself Jul 19 13:22:26 :P) Jul 19 13:22:28 :) Jul 19 13:22:37 Device sent! Jul 19 13:22:41 Yooohooo Jul 19 13:23:11 nice one :P Jul 19 13:23:24 Lets hope these N950s are going to people who genuinely deserve them Jul 19 13:28:07 https://bugs.maemo.org/ has a bug in itself . It is unable to generate a graphical report . was showing abroken image Jul 19 13:28:21 The table report works Jul 19 13:28:29 Has anyone noticed it ? Jul 19 13:28:53 https://bugs.maemo.org/report.cgi?y_axis_field=bug_status&cumulate=0&z_axis_field=&format=bar&x_axis_field=classification&query_format=report-graph&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&classification=Documentation&longdesc_type=allwordssubstr&longdesc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&e Jul 19 13:28:53 mailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&action=wrap&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= Jul 19 13:29:07 oops should have used link shortener . Jul 19 13:29:37 http://bit.ly/o6zB3t Jul 19 13:32:31 bah, this code is too complex, I cant figure it out :( Jul 19 13:34:15 Anyone found the Google+ URL for iPhones etc? Jul 19 13:38:22 pavi: bugs.maemo.org has a Bugzilla component, however unlikely to invest and fix... Jul 19 13:38:31 s/invest/investigate Jul 19 13:39:00 ohh will report it there Jul 19 14:21:58 admiral0 Jul 19 14:22:21 hi khuong Jul 19 14:22:43 good morning Jul 19 14:23:14 I need to go out and grab some breakfast Jul 19 14:23:18 ok Jul 19 14:23:25 i'll be waiting Jul 19 14:24:16 was you able to compile the code? Jul 19 14:25:17 yep Jul 19 14:25:20 easy Jul 19 14:25:29 i switched to cmake though Jul 19 14:31:42 nice, I may have sometime to start on the callerx-ui today, hopefully Jul 19 14:36:47 what is SMS ? Jul 19 14:37:01 Evanescence, sorry? Jul 19 14:37:02 I disabled the proxy on my n900, but running import gconf; gconf.client_get_default().get_bool('/system/http_proxy/use_http_proxy') in Python still returns true. Is this a bug? Do I have to reboot to change the proxy settings? Jul 19 14:37:06 Evanescence, text messages? Jul 19 14:37:35 crashanddie_: I find one app's name is SMSON, I want to know what does it used for ? Jul 19 14:37:53 read the description? Jul 19 14:37:56 crashanddie_: just text message ? Jul 19 14:38:01 crashanddie_: ok Jul 19 14:38:05 smscon? Jul 19 14:38:11 crashanddie_: but the desc is so short.... Jul 19 14:38:23 crashanddie_: yes, smscon Jul 19 14:38:40 ~smscon Jul 19 14:38:58 ~smscon is http://wiki.maemo.org/SMSCON Jul 19 14:38:58 okay, crashanddie_ Jul 19 14:39:29 thx Jul 19 14:39:34 ~tell Evanescence about smscon Jul 19 14:39:59 ~you Jul 19 14:54:42 A random WP7 developer blog: http://blog.lumalilt.com/ Jul 19 14:55:03 (WARNING: severe eyesight hazard) Jul 19 14:57:07 RST38h, lol Jul 19 14:58:04 reminds me of the acid1 test Jul 19 15:26:56 * SpeedEvil does not understand why he doesn't get old texts in a nice rapid queue when the phone is turned on. Jul 19 16:33:17 admiral0 Jul 19 16:33:30 you there? Jul 19 16:33:33 yep Jul 19 16:36:01 lardman: http://s.dealextreme.com/search/2277 Jul 19 16:42:29 SpeedEvil, i don't know which to applaude Jul 19 16:42:33 the fact that exists Jul 19 16:42:42 or that there are 6 customer reviews for it Jul 19 16:42:57 :) Jul 19 16:43:57 Pros Jul 19 16:43:57 :looks like pork Jul 19 16:43:57 Cons: Jul 19 16:43:57 doesnt taste like pork Jul 19 16:44:06 :) Jul 19 16:44:47 lol Jul 19 16:46:09 having connection problem? Jul 19 16:47:49 khuong: no, it's intel driver segfaulting X11 Jul 19 16:48:07 fix is there, too busy to compile it Jul 19 17:07:23 can anyone recommend add-ons for speeding up MicroB. i have only adblockplus, considering noscript Jul 19 17:07:55 but i recall someone mentioning an add-on to improve memory handling or startup... Jul 19 17:08:29 you cannot improve with a plugin Jul 19 17:11:17 i agree it sounds weird Jul 19 17:11:54