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Jul 24 03:01:59 <casketizer> anyone here knowledgable with ircII/irssi/bitchx ?
Jul 24 03:12:09 <fredrin> NORWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jul 24 03:12:17 <fredrin> uff
Jul 24 03:12:21 <fredrin> ficl
Jul 24 03:12:24 <fredrin> sjot
Jul 24 03:12:26 <fredrin> sjot
Jul 24 03:12:29 <fredrin> shit
Jul 24 03:12:40 <fredrin> fuck
Jul 24 03:13:00 <fredrin> omg     11111111111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111        wtf
Jul 24 03:26:19 <fusi>     class Skynet < ActiveRecord::Base
Jul 24 03:26:19 <fusi>       # DO NOT SET TO TRUE!
Jul 24 03:26:19 <fusi>       def self.is_aware(aware)
Jul 24 03:26:19 <fusi>         if aware
Jul 24 03:26:19 <fusi>           return "Must DESTORY John Connor!"
Jul 24 03:26:21 <fusi>         else
Jul 24 03:26:24 <fusi>           return "2:13am EDT August 29, 1997..."
Jul 24 03:26:26 <fusi>         end
Jul 24 03:26:29 <fusi>       end
Jul 24 03:26:31 <fusi>     end
Jul 24 03:28:11 <JohnConnor> stfu or I will find you!
Jul 24 03:41:43 <fusi> lol :D
Jul 24 03:42:00 <fusi> <3
Jul 24 03:46:10 <fusi> We only said goodbye with words. I died a hundred times. You go back to her, And I go back to Black.
Jul 24 03:46:13 <fusi> :'(
Jul 24 04:03:10 <rm_you> anyone online that has an n900 and can type some stuff for me into a terminal and tell me the results?
Jul 24 04:04:32 <fusi> depends what it is ;p
Jul 24 04:05:36 <rm_you> lol
Jul 24 04:05:40 <rm_you> just need to run python
Jul 24 04:05:43 <rm_you> and do:
Jul 24 04:06:06 <rm_you> import ctypes
Jul 24 04:06:06 <rm_you> mafw = ctypes.CDLL("libqmafw.so.0")
Jul 24 04:06:39 <fusi> what does that do?
Jul 24 04:06:42 <rm_you> registry = mafw.qmafw_registry_get_instance()
Jul 24 04:06:45 <rm_you> err
Jul 24 04:06:48 <rm_you> registry = mafw.mafw_registry_get_instance()
Jul 24 04:07:06 <rm_you> registry
Jul 24 04:07:12 <rm_you> and then tell me what it prints
Jul 24 04:07:23 <rm_you> i *think* it's just a number
Jul 24 04:07:25 <rm_you> but i'm not sure
Jul 24 04:08:39 <fusi> error
Jul 24 04:08:47 <rm_you> where
Jul 24 04:08:48 <fusi> ah hold on
Jul 24 04:08:53 <fusi> typo ^^
Jul 24 04:09:19 <rm_you> errrrr
Jul 24 04:09:28 <rm_you> mafw = ctypes.CDLL("libmafw.so.0")
Jul 24 04:09:32 <rm_you> i mistyped too
Jul 24 04:10:23 <fusi> 0
Jul 24 04:10:26 <fusi> :)
Jul 24 04:10:28 <rm_you> lolwut
Jul 24 04:10:40 <fusi> ill do it again
Jul 24 04:11:02 <rm_you> mafw = ctypes.CDLL("libmafw.so.0")
Jul 24 04:11:02 <rm_you> registry = mafw.mafw_registry_get_instance()
Jul 24 04:11:14 <rm_you> those are the two i originally mistyped
Jul 24 04:11:22 <fusi> yer
Jul 24 04:11:35 <fusi> assignment to regsitry doesnt seem to be returning..
Jul 24 04:12:22 <rm_you> hrm
Jul 24 04:13:05 <fusi> hrm
Jul 24 04:13:16 <fusi> did a 2nd instance, returned 0 again
Jul 24 04:13:18 <rm_you> k thanks
Jul 24 04:13:55 <fusi> what were u expecting?
Jul 24 04:14:58 <rm_you> like
Jul 24 04:15:00 <rm_you> 342412
Jul 24 04:15:06 <rm_you> or some large number
Jul 24 04:15:10 <rm_you> i *think*
Jul 24 04:15:11 <fusi> a pointer
Jul 24 04:15:14 <rm_you> yeah
Jul 24 04:15:22 <rm_you> it should be a pointer
Jul 24 04:15:27 <fusi> im a coder, just not python ;)
Jul 24 04:15:30 <rm_you> :P
Jul 24 04:15:51 <rm_you> trying to port an app from Fremantle to Harmattan
Jul 24 04:16:09 <rm_you> Fremantle used libmafw but Harmattan uses libqmafw
Jul 24 04:16:27 <rm_you> which is C++ instead of C (I think?) and completely changed the ABI
Jul 24 04:16:31 <fusi> qt?
Jul 24 04:16:46 <casketizer> what do i do if a console prog has wrong locale in osso-xterm? on desktop i can change xterm locale....
Jul 24 04:16:49 <rm_you> i guess, though not sure why
Jul 24 04:16:56 <rm_you> it's the media framework lib
Jul 24 04:17:04 <casketizer> err not locale
Jul 24 04:17:11 <casketizer> character encoding
Jul 24 04:17:15 <fusi> yer mafw :)
Jul 24 04:17:17 <fusi> casketizer: nfi soz
Jul 24 04:17:24 <casketizer> ?
Jul 24 04:17:34 <fusi> dont know sorry
Jul 24 04:18:03 <fusi> rm_you: im sposed to be making the n900 twitter plugin work again
Jul 24 04:18:15 <fusi> but ive been plagued by lethargy ;<
Jul 24 04:18:22 <rm_you> <_<
Jul 24 04:18:50 <casketizer> could it be that is what the other xterm in extras-dev is for?
Jul 24 04:19:08 <fusi> casketizer: you can always try it or ask the author
Jul 24 04:19:19 <fusi> surely theres some cli magic you can do
Jul 24 04:19:28 <casketizer> yeah
Jul 24 04:19:34 <fusi> im no linux pro tho
Jul 24 04:20:00 <fusi> either way this doobie here needs smoking
Jul 24 04:20:10 <fusi> l8rs o/
Jul 24 04:20:13 <casketizer> guess ill ask again at a more friendly daytime when more ppl are up
Jul 24 06:26:43 <doc|home> fusi: I'm glad you appreciated that :D
Jul 24 09:20:45 <ysss> $80 android tablet on deals.woot.com today
Jul 24 10:39:20 <casketizer> anyone now if gconf /apps/osso/xterm/encoding wants it as iso88591 or as iso8859-1 ?
Jul 24 10:43:47 <Tronic> casketizer: A few notes: it is usually called ISO-8859-1 (all caps) but there may be other aliases that also work. You do not want to use Latin-1 in your terminal, instead use luit or screen to do translation if you have to work with legacy apps (that don't use UTF-8).
Jul 24 10:47:18 <casketizer> i'm battling with bitchx
Jul 24 10:47:27 <dm8tbr> irssi ftw!
Jul 24 10:48:18 <casketizer> if i set that GCONF to C1252 the channel sees äöü correctly but i dont see it correctly
Jul 24 10:48:39 <casketizer> all other codepages it fails in both directions
Jul 24 10:48:47 <casketizer> screen also fails
Jul 24 10:49:55 <casketizer> lets try luit
Jul 24 10:52:18 <casketizer> yay partial success
Jul 24 10:52:40 <casketizer> in luit the üöä are correct both ways
Jul 24 10:53:00 <casketizer> but the graphics chars are borked
Jul 24 10:53:14 <casketizer> any idea Tronic?
Jul 24 10:53:26 <casketizer> i never worked with luit
Jul 24 10:54:10 <otwieracz> Hello.
Jul 24 10:54:16 <otwieracz> Is there fltk for Maemo Diablo?
Jul 24 11:04:10 <sobczyk> hi, is everything ok with ovi store? I just get a blank page when enter http://store.ovi.com/
Jul 24 11:04:11 <Tronic> casketizer: i bet you have messed the settings in some of your components
Jul 24 11:05:24 <Tronic> casketizer: without luit with screen you would need to enter screen command :utf8 off on
Jul 24 11:05:54 <Tronic> that turns utf8 off for the active window and on for the terminal
Jul 24 11:07:03 <Tronic> dunno if bx does conversions but you should consider using utf8 for it too and then letting bx convert for those channels where you need something else.
Jul 24 11:07:53 <Tronic> irssi default settings are fine for that and utf8 seems ok on all irc channels nowadays too
Jul 24 11:09:20 <Tronic> irssi does autodetect and convert if someone else is using cp1252 instead of utf8.
Jul 24 11:09:43 <Choom> ITC: People are still using BitchX.
Jul 24 11:20:35 <casketizer> my settings are ok
Jul 24 11:20:42 <casketizer> fresh flash
Jul 24 11:20:58 <casketizer> i changed the gconf back to utf-8
Jul 24 11:21:51 <casketizer> its just bitchx that gives me headache
Jul 24 11:22:00 <ruskie> so switch to irssi or weechat
Jul 24 11:22:19 <casketizer> i want bitchx
Jul 24 11:22:29 <ruskie> then update it to do utf8 properly
Jul 24 11:23:14 <casketizer> im planning to compile it from svn when my linux box is back
Jul 24 11:23:33 <casketizer> atm im stuck with qwerty12's binary
Jul 24 11:24:19 <casketizer> i can live with the graphics broken, its only at startup
Jul 24 11:24:32 <casketizer> but i try to get it fixed
Jul 24 11:43:54 <casketizer> in irssi all is good so its deffo the bitchx
Jul 24 11:54:35 <Choom> you must be one of the last 4 BitchX users in the world
Jul 24 11:59:06 <tuxsavvy> source? :p
Jul 24 12:00:28 <casketizer> i like it for sentimental reasons
Jul 24 12:00:48 <casketizer> also i have tons of old scripts i made
Jul 24 12:02:30 <tuxsavvy> there's nothing special about using bitchx ;) try using telnet, that'll be a challenge
Jul 24 12:03:19 <casketizer> for me its special
Jul 24 12:03:31 <casketizer> sentimental private reason
Jul 24 12:03:42 <casketizer> i use telnet all the time
Jul 24 12:04:02 <tuxsavvy> I meant using telnet to chat on IRC
Jul 24 12:04:22 <casketizer> heh lol
Jul 24 12:04:52 <casketizer> ican do basic www with it but irc will be hard
Jul 24 12:06:45 <tuxsavvy> heck I　can't do basic www, but I've recently used telnet to chat on IRC, its not just hard but it's probably a true typist world lol
Jul 24 12:21:39 <Choom> tuxsavvy: well, everyone who used BX in the '90s switched to irssi in 2000
Jul 24 12:22:14 <Choom> you can very easily notice that by the lack of BX quit messages on IRC in the last decade
Jul 24 12:23:03 <Choom> and the disappearance of the annoying away announcements
Jul 24 12:23:04 <tuxsavvy> Choom, yeah but its not hard to change the default BX　quit message anyway, that plus the fact that there probably are other BX users floating around elsewhere
Jul 24 12:24:05 <tuxsavvy> I still quite like the BX's real_name behaviour, too bad it didn't transverse across to irssi
Jul 24 12:24:41 <Choom> I'm too lame to read BitchX.doc?
Jul 24 12:25:03 <tuxsavvy> yup
Jul 24 12:25:37 <Choom> I like the fact that irssi uses the GECOS field
Jul 24 12:27:10 <Choom> and saying this makes me feel old
Jul 24 12:27:56 <tuxsavvy> didn't BX　behave the same way as well?　using GECOS field to mark the user running BX
Jul 24 12:32:01 <Choom> I believe so, though there were certain conditions which would make that message appear as irc name; I think it's always used the GECOS field for me
Jul 24 12:32:17 <Choom> maybe it only displayed that if the user's GECOS field was empty
Jul 24 13:54:34 <sobczyk> is there any reason when trying to install ovi store app the manager tells me I don't have enough space left? (I have 47M rootfs, 145M /home & /home/opt)
Jul 24 13:55:10 <FIQ> ok, for some reason scratchbox has screwed up normal compile *outside* of it
Jul 24 13:55:16 <FIQ> I don't know how scratchbox work
Jul 24 13:55:23 <FIQ> Scanning dependencies of target hedgewars                                                                                                                                   
Jul 24 13:55:23 <FIQ> [ 29%] Building CXX object QTfrontend/CMakeFiles/hedgewars.dir/HWApplication.cpp.o                                                                                          
Jul 24 13:55:23 <FIQ> sb_gcc_wrapper (/scratchbox/compilers/bin/c++): unable to open scratchbox.config
Jul 24 13:55:27 <FIQ> and then it just exits
Jul 24 13:55:34 <FIQ> i don't even compile in scratchbox... so wtf?
Jul 24 14:02:45 * ShadowJK wonders if 145M is below the 10% reserve, and if app install can't go into reserve
Jul 24 15:31:01 <macmaN> what up yall
Jul 24 15:31:32 <macmaN> so basically getting sftp in dropbear is as simple as unpacking openssh-server...deb and cp -a lib /usr
Jul 24 15:31:45 <macmaN> anyone care to make a package for that anyway?
Jul 24 15:41:40 <macmaN> anyway, http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=SSH&curid=1193&diff=44648&oldid=39895 if anyone's interested
Jul 24 16:11:32 <casketizer> does maemo 5 bash3 ignore .bashrc ?
Jul 24 16:11:46 <casketizer> its not executing stuff i put in there
Jul 24 16:28:09 <tuxsavvy> try symlinking .bash_profile to .bashrc . In either case I don't think bash3 can easily ignore either :)
Jul 24 16:36:57 <casketizer> hmmm
Jul 24 17:48:37 <Sicelo> ~mtd
Jul 24 17:48:37 <infobot> i guess mtd is Memory Technology Device, see http://linux-mtd.infradead.org/
Jul 24 18:36:00 <trumee> ~ping
Jul 24 18:36:00 <infobot> ~pong
Jul 24 21:36:43 <MohammadAG> jacekowski, mind helping out with setting up a builder tomorrow?
Jul 24 21:37:13 <MohammadAG> I want something similar to extras-devel for Harmattan, and no one seems to want to provide that
Jul 24 21:37:20 <MohammadAG> OBS fails to do the same
Jul 24 21:55:15 <Tronic> MohammadAG: There is a community repository for Harmattan.
Jul 24 21:55:53 <MohammadAG> OBS? sure, it'll result in duplicate work
Jul 24 21:56:18 <Tronic> http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=26335#post26335
Jul 24 21:57:08 <MohammadAG> that's OBS
Jul 24 22:02:30 <Shapeshifter> Does someone know how to refresh qtlockscreen after editing the ini file?
Jul 24 22:02:40 <MohammadAG> kill it I guess?
Jul 24 22:02:57 <Shapeshifter> mh. that works
Jul 24 22:15:04 <Shapeshifter> http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1408/sam0726r.jpg :<
Jul 24 22:19:09 <BCMM> Shapeshifter: i am confused.
Jul 24 22:22:46 <jacekowski> MohammadAG: isn't harmattan rpm based?
Jul 24 22:23:07 <MohammadAG> jacekowski, nope
Jul 24 22:23:15 <MohammadAG> MeeGo is, Harmattan isn't
Jul 24 22:24:00 <jacekowski> isn't that same thing
Jul 24 22:24:17 <MohammadAG> to the media, sure
Jul 24 22:24:31 <MohammadAG> Harmattan is Maemo 6
Jul 24 22:24:41 <jacekowski> are there any devices with maemo 6?
Jul 24 22:24:49 <MohammadAG> N950 and N9
Jul 24 22:24:57 <jacekowski> oO
Jul 24 22:25:08 <jacekowski> i've heard these were supposed to be meego
Jul 24 22:25:21 <MohammadAG> they're compatible with MeeGo 1.2's API
Jul 24 22:25:26 <jacekowski> is N9 available?
Jul 24 22:25:29 <MohammadAG> but they're a bit distant from MeeGo
Jul 24 22:25:30 <MohammadAG> no
Jul 24 22:25:41 <MohammadAG> well, for certain Nokians, yes
Jul 24 22:26:08 <jacekowski> ebay is already full of N9 things
Jul 24 22:26:11 <jacekowski> cases and stuff
Jul 24 22:27:59 <MohammadAG> heh
Jul 24 22:28:27 <MohammadAG> X-Fade, #harmattan 
Jul 24 22:34:42 <Shapeshifter> BCMM: apparently, some chinese are selling replacement cases for the n900. in white.
Jul 24 23:06:30 <divan> hi all
Jul 24 23:06:51 * divan finally got N950. Even three ones =)
Jul 24 23:07:04 <macmaN> divan: who did you rob
Jul 24 23:08:15 <divan> Macer, :) Just helped Nokia to transfer devices to other country due to problems with DHL
Jul 24 23:08:38 <macmaN> oh, and you took a cut of a few devices
Jul 24 23:08:38 <divan> Tomorrow I will give two of them to local Nokia representatives
Jul 24 23:08:39 <macmaN> smart!
Jul 24 23:09:33 <divan> Oh, I see #harmattan channel is created. Sorry for flood.
Jul 24 23:12:19 <macmaN> yeah thats where the cool kids hang
Jul 24 23:12:20 <MohammadAG> you could help me of course :P
Jul 24 23:14:47 <trx> divan which country?
Jul 24 23:40:01 <divan> trx, from Russia to Ukraine. They delivered devkits for Ukraine via Russian office. I was in Moscow today, so agreed to help with transfer.
Jul 24 23:40:21 <trx> oh
Jul 24 23:40:42 <trx> they told me that they will send my n950 via Russia
Jul 24 23:40:48 <trx> i am in Serbia
Jul 24 23:41:14 <trx> Ukraine and Hungary are in between
Jul 24 23:42:01 <trx> maybe its mine, maybe not..
Jul 24 23:42:25 <divan> trx, I didn't asked. They received a bunch of devkits last friday, and will send then further this week with DHL.
Jul 24 23:42:42 <divan> trx, or in other way for Serbia, don't know for sure.
Jul 24 23:43:01 <trx> never the less, thank you very much for this info
Jul 24 23:43:11 <trx> i now know i should expect it this week
Jul 24 23:43:56 <trx> on the developer.nokia.com page status changed to device sent on 11.
Jul 24 23:44:13 <MohammadAG> still New order for me
Jul 24 23:44:14 <trx> so i stayed at home as much as i could :)
Jul 24 23:44:41 <divan> trx, I can give you the contact for responsible person in Nokia Russia. They are concerned about how to deliver it as well, so perhaps if you contact him personally, it'll speed up things for everyone.
Jul 24 23:44:57 <trx> MohammadAG some people have said that they recieved their device with that status
Jul 24 23:45:08 <trx> so maybe you are one of them
Jul 24 23:45:20 * divan still has 'Device sent to customer' status :)
Jul 24 23:45:40 <MohammadAG> trx, that'd be bad, for me at least
Jul 24 23:46:22 <divan> MohammadAG, try to contact your local representatives.
Jul 24 23:46:23 <trx> divan well that would be nice, but i dont know if i should contact them, would that be appropriate?
Jul 24 23:46:38 <MohammadAG> divan, what representatives?
Jul 24 23:46:40 <trx> MohammadAG have you contacted the DDP?
Jul 24 23:46:47 <MohammadAG> Nokia Israel? that doesn't exist
Jul 24 23:46:55 <MohammadAG> trx, yes, standard answer + apology
Jul 24 23:47:00 <divan> MohammadAG, oh.. So yours is sent by DHL?
Jul 24 23:47:10 <trx> the thing is
Jul 24 23:47:13 <MohammadAG> it's still New Order
Jul 24 23:47:21 <trx> we have DHL in serbia in several cities
Jul 24 23:47:36 <MohammadAG> I got my second N900 DDP via DHL
Jul 24 23:47:37 <trx> and in my town i see their trucks all the time
Jul 24 23:47:42 <divan> MohammadAG, they preparing your device to have lates builds, I guess :)
Jul 24 23:47:56 <trx> but they must send it via russia... that i dont understand..
Jul 24 23:49:06 <divan> trx, he is pretty open person so don't hesistate to ask him. Sent mail in pm.
Jul 24 23:49:17 <trx> thank you
Jul 24 23:49:56 <trx> i'll send him a mail in the morning
Jul 25 00:24:00 <MohammadAG> DocScrutinizer, indeed, forgot I was on #harmattan 
Jul 25 01:42:29 <Termana> good morning
Jul 25 02:06:01 <DocScrutinizer> MohammadAG: still awake?
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