**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Aug 02 02:59:57 2011 Aug 02 03:00:08 makes sense Aug 02 03:00:51 google however knows *all* :-P Aug 02 03:01:16 possibly Aug 02 03:01:32 that's why I don't really like 8.8.8.8 and 4.4.4.4 Aug 02 03:01:42 * nox- also usually refuses google's cookies Aug 02 03:02:13 won't help when you use 8.8.8.8 Aug 02 03:02:26 hehe Aug 02 03:02:32 8.8.8.8 knows *everything* you do Aug 02 03:02:36 (i didnt say i usually do... :) Aug 02 03:02:50 thats just one publicly available one Aug 02 03:03:28 * DocScrutinizer quits wireshark Aug 02 03:04:35 ..publicly available and easy to remember Aug 02 03:08:24 * DocScrutinizer changed wireshark for filter:ip.addr=8.8.8.8 and let it run for the next days Aug 02 03:20:40 you run that on the router? Aug 02 03:23:04 wireshark? no Aug 02 03:23:36 my router doesn't relay DNS, it just hands DNS IP to DHCP clients Aug 02 03:23:42 oh Aug 02 03:24:09 even more strange then that it would have trouble with a secondary Aug 02 03:24:14 this also renders moot all my rant about ZyXEL being crap and involved there Aug 02 03:24:20 heh Aug 02 03:28:42 heh Aug 02 03:28:49 googled a problem ive got Aug 02 03:29:08 and got linked to an archived irc chat log from this channel Aug 02 03:29:09 hehe Aug 02 03:29:25 unfortauntely the problem doesnt appear to have been resolved Aug 02 03:29:34 but the cause was identified Aug 02 03:29:37 aclocal: macro `gl_FUNC_ARGZ' required but not defined Aug 02 03:31:55 https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/extras-cauldron-builds/2009-November/011125.html Aug 02 03:31:58 hehe Aug 02 03:32:54 can i delete the m4 folder and its contents Aug 02 03:32:58 is it regenerated? Aug 02 03:34:14 that i kind of doubt Aug 02 03:34:28 yea iim looking thorugh it Aug 02 03:34:40 i do see a m4_define([LT_PACKAGE_VERSION], [2.2.6b]) Aug 02 03:34:45 in ltversion.m4 Aug 02 03:34:47 hmmm Aug 02 03:35:16 woglinde which libtool version fremantle has? 01:05 Aug 02 03:35:17 javispedro 1.5.26-4 Aug 02 03:36:04 hmm nope Aug 02 03:36:40 commeting the def out doenst help either Aug 02 03:37:26 hmm lt~obsolete.m4 Aug 02 03:37:47 i think you can run all the auto* foo on a pc, except for the ./configure run itself Aug 02 03:37:58 orly Aug 02 03:38:10 yea im in scratchbox atm Aug 02 03:38:15 `in theory' :) Aug 02 03:38:25 oh you tease Aug 02 03:39:15 but that might have more chances than getting something more recent to work with obsolete auto* tools Aug 02 03:39:28 ooh **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Aug 02 03:41:18 2011 Aug 02 03:41:18 :d ty Aug 02 03:41:21 :D Aug 02 03:41:24 yw Aug 02 03:42:37 and i just found a argz.m4 here that defines gl_FUNC_ARGZ, # Portability macros for glibc argz. -*- Autoconf -* Aug 02 03:43:24 :D Aug 02 03:44:16 ah yeah its from libtool-2.4 Aug 02 03:45:15 ah Aug 02 03:50:45 hoorah Aug 02 03:50:51 compiles and runs \o/ Aug 02 04:25:24 fusi, :) Aug 02 04:25:27 bbl Aug 02 04:57:42 has anyone else placed the "preorder" for the cordia tab Aug 02 05:00:35 antman89691: I will as soon as actual preorders are available Aug 02 05:03:33 it might help to to the pre pre order, aparently he needs to know who is interested Aug 02 05:03:37 but I'm glad to see it coming soon Aug 02 05:04:00 harmattan is proving to be a let down Aug 02 05:04:19 pre pre pre pre order .. wtf :P Aug 02 05:13:51 http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Canalys-August-1-report/ <-- lol Aug 02 05:16:42 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/01/rural_wireless_standard/ Aug 02 07:07:42 when the email app checks my inbox and finds new mails, downloads the body of new mails, but i want it downloads only their headers, not the whole body, how can i configure it? Aug 02 07:10:28 use imap instead of pop3 ? Aug 02 07:11:10 imap doesnt work better on the n900 :P Aug 02 07:11:14 DocScrutinizer: i did, Aug 02 07:11:16 configurability of modest is errrr modest Aug 02 07:11:22 email is just broken Aug 02 07:12:09 not in nokia messaging :P Aug 02 07:55:39 moo all Aug 02 08:18:33 will cordia run apps from fremantle repositories? Aug 02 08:25:53 wtf is cordia? Aug 02 08:26:44 esp what's a cordia tab? Aug 02 08:29:45 sounds like the name of some new soft drink Aug 02 08:46:43 DocScrutinizer: yay, got my lighting working in qtirreco Aug 02 08:47:13 way more range when you get the carrier freq right :) Aug 02 08:48:33 :) Aug 02 08:50:06 do we actually know what wavelength the filter in the n900 case is designed to pass? Aug 02 08:52:50 what filter Aug 02 08:53:08 on the n900 case Aug 02 08:53:12 where the ir led is Aug 02 08:53:52 Quite irrelevant. Aug 02 08:54:05 It passes the LEDs wavelength. Aug 02 08:54:20 which is - pretty much - one wavelength. Aug 02 08:54:22 oh right Aug 02 08:54:30 exactly Aug 02 08:54:32 yeah, i wasnt thinking Aug 02 08:54:46 Probably in the 800nm range Aug 02 08:54:52 and my freq was correctish for my TV, yet the range is <2m Aug 02 08:55:35 at 40khz i was getting 1m and not very reliable. changed to 38khz and am now getting it from the other side of the room, ~4m Aug 02 08:56:15 well, most IRRX are not exactly carrier selective Aug 02 08:56:35 my room lighting uses one of those 3pin ir reciever chips Aug 02 08:56:58 with built in amp and filter that outputs the raw pulses at 0-5v Aug 02 08:57:46 yeah , iirc those are usually spec'ed like >>38..42kHz<< and >32..36kHz<< Aug 02 08:58:02 sth like that Aug 02 08:58:51 at least the one used in my TV evidently is characterized correctly by such spec Aug 02 08:59:50 http://psi.abcom.co.nz/leds1s.jpg Aug 02 08:59:54 http://psi.abcom.co.nz/leds2s.jpg Aug 02 09:00:19 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jH_wRJW5vU Aug 02 09:01:09 hehe, my room lighting video came up as the 4th item in google search results for "led room lighting" Aug 02 09:01:18 * Psi feels special Aug 02 09:57:14 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/02/isolated_human_genes_can_be_patented/ <-- can we stop with patenting nature? Aug 02 09:57:38 ^^ Aug 02 10:16:15 ruskie: I've decided I'll never move to the U.S. if there's a chance I'll want to do any kind of innovation - and since I'm an engineer, that chance will always be there Aug 02 10:16:28 hehe Aug 02 10:16:37 I decided to not even visit the US... Aug 02 10:20:55 ~seen thopiekar Aug 02 10:21:02 having to fill out an essay in order to visit the place is a pain :< Aug 02 10:21:12 Hi all Aug 02 10:22:00 someone here can help me to find why autobuilder reject my build with error : Aug 02 10:22:01 dh_pysupport Aug 02 10:22:03 make: dh_pysupport: Command not found Aug 02 10:22:05 make: *** [binary-arch] Error 127 Aug 02 10:22:07 dpkg-buildpackage: error: fakeroot debian/rules binary gave error exit status 2 Aug 02 10:23:05 yes, I try to avoid visiting U.S. too, but since one of my friends live there, it's not easy to avoid completely Aug 02 10:23:39 Creteil: you need Build-Depends: python-support Aug 02 10:24:18 villager, thanks I understand now How to fix all this type of problem ... Aug 02 10:26:19 * Arkenoi is going to visit US someday but i am kinda worried NSA and DHS will fuck my brain. Getting visa if you are involved in something with words "security" or/and "crypto" in it might be lengthy and annoying procedure. Aug 02 10:26:20 Creteil: that's part of what the autobuilder is for Aug 02 10:27:11 villager, just fixed the control file and send to autobuilder with dput ... Aug 02 10:28:26 Creteil: otherwise I suppose you just have to learn stuff... try things... ask more experience people... do research (e.g. "dpkg -S dh_pysupport" would have told you which package the file is in) Aug 02 10:29:23 look at other packages to see how they're done... Aug 02 10:29:27 whatever it takes Aug 02 10:29:49 villager, yes for sure ... Aug 02 10:52:56 has anyone found a way to get more than 4 desktops yet? Aug 02 10:53:19 last i checked the needed code was still closed source Aug 02 10:55:27 isnt there an app to unlock that (or just setting some configure option) Aug 02 11:03:33 Yea, there is Aug 02 11:03:41 there's a topic showing how to get up to 9 Aug 02 11:03:56 ...Not that I've ever messed with it; I haven't needed more than 2 Aug 02 11:11:55 Psi: with the cssu you get up to 9 Aug 02 11:20:54 Aug 02 11:24:45 cehteh: config... set 9 instead of 4... Aug 02 11:25:39 Psi: that is old... was one of the first desktop tweaks out afair Aug 02 11:29:16 my apmd died, how can i check what happened? Aug 02 11:36:19 you're not supposed to have an apmd? Aug 02 11:37:34 ShadowJK: where are you not supposed to have an apmd? Aug 02 11:38:09 AFAIK you can have one on N8x0... then again it might be the applet just talking trash when it connects to the battery info. Aug 02 11:43:31 ShadowJK, battery applet says so (that it died and it cannot get battery level because of it) Aug 02 11:44:16 must be some random crapapplet :) Aug 02 11:45:21 the stock battery indicator shows it all grey as well Aug 02 11:47:25 batterygraph, however, dies get the proper values Aug 02 11:47:27 does Aug 02 11:57:07 * gomiam ps -efa's... Aug 02 11:58:25 there seems to be no process called apm-whatever Aug 02 11:58:46 which means the apm is either an applet brainfart or something embedded somewhere else. Aug 02 11:59:28 checking /usr/lib/advance-power-monitor/* ... Aug 02 13:00:37 Arkenoi: ok, it seems there is a /usr/lib/advanced-power-monitor/AdvancedPowerMonitorDaemon.py that acts as APMD for the applet. /etc/init.d/apmonitord restart might be the command you want to run as root to get APMD back up again. Aug 02 13:01:21 i had installed mymenu and now i've removed that, but now i see that it has broken the menu, and lots of installed apps are not shown in the default menu Aug 02 13:01:27 what can i do with it? Aug 02 13:02:05 strange, apmonitord is missing from my init.d Aug 02 13:02:11 how could it happen? Aug 02 13:03:01 and there is no /usr/lib/advanced-power-monitor as well Aug 02 13:03:13 Arkenoi: mmm... it seems you lack some package Aug 02 13:03:16 checking... Aug 02 13:03:36 TimmyT, have you rebooted since uninstall? Aug 02 13:04:10 FIQ|n900: yep Aug 02 13:04:23 where did you install it? Aug 02 13:04:34 andvanced-power-monitor is already the newest version Aug 02 13:04:48 Arkenoi: do you have advance-power-monitor installed? Aug 02 13:04:58 erm... advanced-power-monitor, I mean Aug 02 13:05:34 FIQ|n900: what so u mean where did u install it? i've installed on my phone. where can i install it? Aug 02 13:05:59 er Aug 02 13:06:11 yes Aug 02 13:06:12 TimmyT: he asks where did you put, on the menu, the mymenu link... I think. Aug 02 13:06:24 Arkenoi: reinstall it then, please. Aug 02 13:06:30 i wonder what repository you installed it from Aug 02 13:07:11 ahah, official repositories, but dunnu which one Aug 02 13:07:17 ah, i found this: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=57822 Aug 02 13:07:53 i've ssh access to my phone Aug 02 13:08:15 reinstalled, everything is ok Aug 02 13:08:29 how could it vanish from the system though apt thinks it is still there? Aug 02 13:08:55 TimmyT, that's really an outdated thread so the solution might not work however Aug 02 13:09:03 but try it Aug 02 13:10:23 FIQ|n900: someone reported that by doing this, rearranging is not possible Aug 02 13:10:49 he said: I had the same problem, did the same thing and everything worked fine... Aug 02 13:10:51 BUT Aug 02 13:10:51 When I tried to rearrange icons in menu it got back to the old, damaged/ missing icons one.. And had to do this again.. Aug 02 13:11:00 i see it, readed the thread as well Aug 02 13:11:22 but i don't really use mymenu, so i don't know exactly why it happens Aug 02 13:11:31 so i can't help you there really Aug 02 13:11:38 except from linking that Aug 02 13:11:57 if i know it will happen, i would behave as u :D Aug 02 13:12:11 and i would not install it Aug 02 13:12:14 the only other solution I can give is... well, reflash Aug 02 13:12:43 FIQ|n900: lol, i've just reflashed it Aug 02 13:12:52 um Aug 02 13:12:56 and it didn't help? Aug 02 13:13:02 fiq" Aug 02 13:13:11 and you've already removed everything? Aug 02 13:13:23 no, it was ok, i've installed this app after that Aug 02 13:13:49 if so, try reflash again, that will help for sure :) Aug 02 13:14:03 even if it might be a quicker way that i don't know about Aug 02 13:14:07 i mean if i reflash it, it'll be ok. but i've just done that today Aug 02 13:14:15 ok Aug 02 13:14:41 so no one will remove or report this app? Aug 02 13:14:58 it'll broke more phones Aug 02 13:15:06 err, brick Aug 02 13:15:32 indeed it will Aug 02 13:15:40 submit a bug report if it isn't already Aug 02 13:16:24 Arkenoi: good question. I have no answer for it though. Aug 02 13:17:17 TimmyT, you might want to try installing something that rebuilds the menu and see if it works Aug 02 13:17:32 like catorise Aug 02 13:17:43 (and then uninstall it) Aug 02 13:17:54 let me try Aug 02 13:21:50 FIQ|n900: i've just installed catorise and it has restored my icons, but seems it's a good menu, Aug 02 13:21:53 tnx Aug 02 13:22:39 ok Aug 02 13:22:42 np Aug 02 13:23:36 where to report it? Aug 02 14:02:59 media player says 'no songs'. everything is gone except the radio stations. help? Aug 02 14:07:48 have you tried turning it off and on again? Aug 02 14:09:17 nusse: no. that seems bothersome and I wouldn't even know what the problem was Aug 02 14:10:45 perhaps the Tracker database needs to be rebuilt Aug 02 14:12:15 villager: How do I do that? I see tracker is running Aug 02 14:12:28 hmm, wonder if infobot has any information about that Aug 02 14:12:33 ~tracker Aug 02 14:12:36 !tracker Aug 02 14:13:15 well, if infobot knows, I'm not sure what the keyword it Aug 02 14:14:20 try /usr/lib/tracker/trackerd -r Aug 02 14:16:59 Shapeshifter: or, according to a web search, maybe it's tracker-processes -r Aug 02 14:17:56 of course this all assumes that your songs aren't physically gone... Aug 02 14:33:08 villager: thanks, I was jsut driving somewhere else. tracker-processes -r did something but didn't solve the problem Aug 02 14:35:06 mh it's probably running in the background Aug 02 14:35:08 Shapeshifter: it may take a while to reindex... but can you check if the files are physically there? with the file manager, say? Aug 02 14:36:08 villager: yes they are, I can play them through file manager as well. Aug 02 14:36:26 Shapeshifter: ok, then perhaps you'll just have to wait for the reindex to complete Aug 02 14:42:47 villager: yep they're back Aug 02 16:06:43 i install cutetube-qml it's a great program,but i can't login my youtube accounts. Aug 02 16:20:38 ~packrat Aug 02 16:20:39 methinks packrat is a cute little rodent that keeps everything it finds. http://www.ageofikon.com/prh/ Aug 02 17:01:36 i have a second hand n900; the previous guy has tinkered a lot to install a lot of unwanted software ... i was wondering if there could be a way to get my phone into a state as if it was unboxed ... flashing etc would do? Aug 02 17:02:01 ~flashing Aug 02 17:02:01 somebody said maemo-flashing was http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Aug 02 17:02:37 i don't think i need to update the firmware as such ... Aug 02 17:03:35 read the page, it answers your question. Aug 02 17:04:18 thx Aug 02 17:22:29 Hi everybody Aug 02 17:22:55 I'm getting a Green(or yellow) light when i plug my Nokia N900 at usb plugging into my PC Aug 02 17:24:21 it charges fine Aug 02 17:25:14 whats the problem? Aug 02 17:25:25 green is charged Aug 02 17:25:38 i'm not sure if it's green Aug 02 17:25:39 yellow solid is charging, but too low battery voltage to boot Aug 02 17:25:45 hmm Aug 02 17:25:50 but the device powers up finely Aug 02 17:25:51 Yellow flashing is charging after booting. Aug 02 17:26:10 Yellow solid Aug 02 17:27:16 That's charging - when off then. Aug 02 17:27:36 but that color when device powered on? Aug 02 17:29:38 that also when booting another O.S.,like MeeGo Aug 02 17:29:52 Odd. Aug 02 17:30:14 With device powered on - if it's not maemo - whatever that OS chooses to do Aug 02 17:30:40 but on Maemo i get the same Aug 02 17:36:02 Does it charge properly? Aug 02 17:36:15 An have you installed any LED pattern stuff? Aug 02 17:36:31 It's possible for the MCE file to be corrupt, and have the wrong patterns stored. Aug 02 17:37:08 Yes,it charge s Aug 02 17:37:17 no,i haven't led pattern app Aug 02 17:39:58 and i've flashed too recently Aug 02 17:49:55 I think the usb on n900 will break any day now :( Aug 02 17:58:45 ahoy Aug 02 18:01:53 hmm Aug 02 18:02:30 when stepping into a func exported by this .so, the program exits withcode 0 :( Aug 02 18:02:42 i guess it cant find the .so? Aug 02 18:02:58 thought it would of failed at link/load time? Aug 02 18:03:36 am i able to use ar and glom the .a intp the program? Aug 02 18:04:39 or will that still require the .so? Aug 02 18:04:57 is the .a just an import file? no actual cdoe? Aug 02 18:12:10 http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Program-Library-HOWTO/shared-libraries.html Aug 02 18:12:13 yay Aug 02 18:14:47 hmm ldconfig Aug 02 18:15:25 fusi: lazy linking: a symbol is resolved the first time it is called Aug 02 18:15:38 so yes, it will die if it can't find it the moment it is called. Aug 02 18:15:48 however, it should print something meaningful to stderr. Aug 02 18:25:24 javispedro: aha Aug 02 18:25:36 thanks, unfortunately it silently exits Aug 02 18:25:42 exit value: 0 Aug 02 18:25:47 im assuming it cant find the lib Aug 02 18:25:55 but its in /usr/local/lib Aug 02 18:25:56 hmm Aug 02 18:26:21 am i able to link the .a into the program Aug 02 18:26:32 so that it doesnt need to link the external lib Aug 02 18:26:37 are you closing stderr or sth wierd? Aug 02 18:26:51 using the hello world template Aug 02 18:27:03 clicking the big button calls into this lib Aug 02 18:27:16 no stderr messing around afaics Aug 02 18:27:43 hmm Aug 02 18:28:29 aha Aug 02 18:28:39 nope im looking at the wrong console ^^ Aug 02 18:28:50 /home/maemo/workspace/helloworld/helloworld: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/liboauth.so.0: undefined symbol: RAND_bytes Aug 02 18:28:53 waaah Aug 02 18:29:04 so.. its findiong the lib? Aug 02 18:29:14 but its not exporting the required symbol Aug 02 18:29:16 eeeh Aug 02 18:29:50 * fusi scratches head Aug 02 18:31:36 thanks for your help javispedro Aug 02 18:32:32 hmmhmmhmmhmm Aug 02 18:33:23 hmm Aug 02 18:33:39 RAND_bytes is declared openssl/rand.h Aug 02 18:34:07 fusi: sounds like a hard problem Aug 02 18:34:09 soo it must be that it cant find openssl lib Aug 02 18:34:23 naa Aug 02 18:34:34 its just me being noob with build envs =) Aug 02 18:34:38 yes Aug 02 18:34:40 I mean Aug 02 18:34:49 you are probably running a Diablo binary in Fremantle, or the like Aug 02 18:34:57 yer Aug 02 18:35:19 hmm Aug 02 18:37:34 what im doing is basically Aug 02 18:37:47 got liboauth from the repo Aug 02 18:37:55 built it, installed yada Aug 02 18:38:15 now afaik that should of pulled down all the openssl stuff and whatnot Aug 02 18:39:09 check the versions of the openssl packages you used Aug 02 18:39:17 device and scratchbox should match Aug 02 18:40:03 yea Aug 02 18:44:41 hmm Aug 02 18:52:01 hiemanshu: get your dang USB fixed then Aug 02 18:52:32 NOW Aug 02 18:56:33 I'm trying to use my n900 as a router, connecting my laptop via usb Aug 02 18:56:53 unfortunately, whenever the n900 is on gprs, the laptop can't connect to the n900 Aug 02 18:56:56 any ideas? Aug 02 19:08:08 the gprs interface seems to interfere with the usb device Aug 02 19:08:32 I can't even ping the ip on the usb interface from the n900 Aug 02 19:08:41 schaueho: ping is disabled by default Aug 02 19:09:30 schaueho: did you adjust routes? Aug 02 19:09:46 schaueho: is forwarding enabled? ( i have no idea what background i can assume ) Aug 02 19:11:08 yes, forwarding is enabled, but I don't even get to the n900 Aug 02 19:11:23 although I can ping the laptop from the n900 just fine Aug 02 19:11:27 schaueho: echo requests are disabled, enable them if you want to play with ping Aug 02 19:11:41 schaueho: i mean echo replies are disabled Aug 02 19:11:54 hmm, but only if on gprs? Aug 02 19:11:56 schaueho: obviously they're not disabled on your laptop Aug 02 19:12:19 schaueho: nah, they're generally off by default iirc Aug 02 19:12:34 when the n900 is on wlan, I can ping it from the laptop just fine Aug 02 19:13:04 I suspect that the routing I get from the gprs is the culprit Aug 02 19:13:28 I get a default route 0.0.0.0 with a gateway of 0.0.0.0 Aug 02 19:13:40 schaueho: thats ok Aug 02 19:14:15 Shapeshifter: thing is that your route to the laptop via usb needs to be above in the routing table Aug 02 19:14:29 schaueho: ^^ Aug 02 19:14:32 Shapeshifter: sry Aug 02 19:15:01 well, if I can trust the output of route -n, that's the case Aug 02 19:15:12 schaueho: sure you can trust it Aug 02 19:16:07 schaueho: do verify that echo is on Aug 02 19:16:51 schaueho: oh and do verify that routing table on the laptop too Aug 02 19:20:16 think ive found the root of the problem Aug 02 19:20:37 ./configure doesnt work in scratchbox due to wrong libtools, so i ran it outside of scratchbox Aug 02 19:20:53 which must of pulled in aaaaaaall the wrong versions of dependancies Aug 02 19:21:14 so ive gotta recreate the build env for this liboauth basically Aug 02 19:24:42 valdyn_, you're right, the echo replies are disabled Aug 02 19:28:43 hi Aug 02 19:29:55 got a little problem here: whenever I try to do something on my N900 filesystem it fails, on the console i get the reason readonly filesystem, but when i check it with mount it says rw not ro, any ideas? Aug 02 19:30:19 fuk? Aug 02 19:30:21 full Aug 02 19:30:22 >? Aug 02 19:30:28 * SpeedEvil stabs his keyboard. Aug 02 19:31:23 hm, settings tells me theres 1 gb free space Aug 02 19:31:58 df tells me 96 percent Aug 02 19:32:51 which filesystem Aug 02 19:32:54 plus it also fails on rm Aug 02 19:34:16 - /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /home/user/MyDocs type vfat (rw,noauto,nodev,noexec,nosuid,noatime,nodiratime,utf8,uid=29999,shortname=mixed,dmask=000,fmask=0133,rodir) Aug 02 19:40:36 I'd look at dmesg Aug 02 19:40:41 see if there are any errors Aug 02 19:40:45 Oh - this is mydocs? Aug 02 19:40:53 you can - as root - unmount that Aug 02 19:41:03 and then dosfsck it Aug 02 19:41:04 I think Aug 02 19:41:13 Or mount on a PC and run a filesystem checker Aug 02 19:45:17 ok look slike liboauth is in the repos anyway Aug 02 19:45:25 so i wont bother building that myself Aug 02 19:51:32 re Aug 02 19:52:02 hi Aug 02 19:52:05 did anyone answer after i posted the mount output? because at that time my system crashed Aug 02 19:52:34 how to make time delay for camera? i want to make group photos with myself sometimes Aug 02 19:52:47 @justus: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/latest.log.html Aug 02 19:54:34 thanks alot, ill have a look Aug 02 19:55:46 @Juozapas: IIRC the stock version can not do it. But take a look at this: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=964196 which is now shipped with CSSU... Aug 02 19:56:01 OOOOOMF IT WORKS Aug 02 19:56:13 * fusi dances Aug 02 19:56:32 thx Aug 02 19:56:52 0x8504170 "Failed to validate oauth signature and token" Aug 02 19:56:53 \o/ Aug 02 19:56:57 what name does the microB binary have? Aug 02 19:58:14 how do i know which firmware version would be best for me? there are about 20 options available :( Aug 02 19:59:30 what is "vanilla" version? Aug 02 20:01:01 reenignEesreveR: http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware#What_does_it_do.3F Aug 02 20:04:13 what about regions? Aug 02 20:04:24 Juozapas: you can also use something like: sleep 30; phone --control --capture Aug 02 20:04:41 there are around 5 regions, my country doesn't fall any of those so prolly i'll be ok with "global" ? Aug 02 20:06:55 Sicelo: no command phone' Aug 02 20:07:05 sorry Aug 02 20:07:10 phone-control.... Aug 02 20:07:27 @FIQ: /usr/bin/browser Aug 02 20:07:45 ahh Aug 02 20:08:01 Ev'ning, all Aug 02 20:09:05 reenignEesreveR: yes I think "global" is the right choice for you. Also, for the first time it is recommended to read the whole page. Aug 02 20:09:28 Sicelo: the same problem.. maybe i must install something first? Aug 02 20:09:39 oh yeah.. Aug 02 20:09:44 i found :) Aug 02 20:09:46 thx Aug 02 20:12:51 yw Aug 02 20:19:55 itschue Aug 02 20:54:35 :) Aug 02 21:06:38 achingly close to getting libpurple-twitter-protocol working Aug 02 21:06:53 (twitter plugin for conversations/contacts) Aug 02 21:07:50 can anybody suggest app for managing working hours? Aug 02 21:07:57 flexo Aug 02 21:08:04 just installed it Aug 02 21:08:30 isn't there any alternatives? Aug 02 21:08:37 dunno, thats what i use Aug 02 21:09:12 if i have for example 80 hours in a month, then this counts as balance there? Aug 02 21:10:00 flexo's logic is a bit unclear Aug 02 21:10:41 i've set 4 as working days in settings, and have 80 hours in ballance Aug 02 21:10:56 *working day Aug 02 21:11:19 working day in hours is the number of hours you must work a day Aug 02 21:11:28 so set it to 8 or 7.5 or whatever Aug 02 21:11:48 your balance is how much flexi time you have accrewed Aug 02 21:11:50 or owe Aug 02 21:12:03 i dontquite understand what you mean Aug 02 21:12:22 if u dont work your target hours a day you will go into negative flexi - i.e. oweing time Aug 02 21:13:14 of course you could always go to felxo's website Aug 02 21:13:17 and read the manual Aug 02 21:13:19 my case, is that it's possible to work 2 hours today (instead of 4) and tomorrow 6 Aug 02 21:13:29 which is here: http://www.balenet.com/flexo/guide.html Aug 02 21:13:36 ah, ok, thanks :) Aug 02 21:14:30 pomodoro comes up in my searches for time mamangement application on maemo as well Aug 02 21:16:00 i'll look at it too, thanks a lot Aug 02 21:20:20 yw Aug 02 21:43:43 want to install garnet vm on n900, which version should i take? Aug 02 21:43:56 OS2009? Aug 02 21:47:50 yes Aug 02 21:53:42 When i plug my wall charger,with phone turned off,instantly the yellow led appears Aug 02 21:53:46 what should i do so? Aug 02 21:54:15 i'm getting nervous i can't fix that Aug 02 21:54:17 leave it that way for at least half an hour, if it does not work, replace battery. Aug 02 21:54:49 you mean,buy another one? Aug 02 21:55:49 it charges finely,powers on/off but that green/yellow(mixed) led is bothering me.. Aug 02 21:56:02 i don't know if i broken my usb port Aug 02 21:57:02 it turns on? Aug 02 21:57:34 yes Aug 02 21:58:51 i think i know what is Aug 02 21:58:53 but i'm not sure Aug 02 21:59:07 i was playing in another distribution a bit with it's led Aug 02 21:59:15 powering on,off,etc... Aug 02 21:59:29 but after a reboot,it should be fixed.. Aug 02 21:59:37 not necessarily Aug 02 21:59:45 remove battery for a while Aug 02 21:59:56 (and obviously unplug the device beforehand) Aug 02 22:00:22 a while,5 mins? Aug 02 22:00:50 1 o2 Aug 02 22:00:52 *or Aug 02 22:01:00 ok Aug 02 22:01:25 " not necessarily" you say about " but after a reboot,it should be fixed.." ? Aug 02 22:01:31 s/say/said/ Aug 02 22:02:08 yes Aug 02 22:02:41 hmm Aug 02 22:02:52 ad in last case,a flash may fix? Aug 02 22:02:54 s/ad/and/ Aug 02 22:03:11 led's you say Aug 02 22:03:19 dont they have thweir own controller that you flash Aug 02 22:03:33 so a reflash of that would fix things Aug 02 22:03:41 * fusi thinks of custom led pattern editor thingy Aug 02 22:03:46 steady orange does not come from led controller but rather charge chip Aug 02 22:03:53 ah Aug 02 22:04:16 ill keep schtum, dont know much ^^ Aug 02 22:04:23 Let me plug battery Aug 02 22:04:42 fusi: the experts are elsewhere, so don't keep schtum. Aug 02 22:05:00 bad advice vs. no advice at all ^^ Aug 02 22:05:37 should i turn it on before turn plug the charger? Aug 02 22:07:04 btw,recently i cleaned my phone with water + soap :) Aug 02 22:07:31 haha Aug 02 22:07:41 now it blinks crazly Aug 02 22:07:58 i hope gently with an everso slightly damp sponge Aug 02 22:08:12 there's the Orange led ,but the green one replaces it Aug 02 22:08:12 rather than submerged in a bucket with suds and all ^^ Aug 02 22:08:41 no fusi :) Aug 02 22:08:47 softly :) Aug 02 22:09:20 ooh Aug 02 22:09:21 let me flash Aug 02 22:09:22 :\ Aug 02 22:11:54 wow Aug 02 22:12:00 the led shows also when flashing Aug 02 22:12:07 :( Aug 02 22:16:25 didn't solve Aug 02 22:16:31 should i cry? Aug 02 22:34:43 ooh Aug 02 22:34:53 knowing sweet fa about qt/qml Aug 02 22:35:06 and browsing various sources that use it Aug 02 22:35:15 i must say that it is very understandable Aug 02 22:35:28 i am impressed Aug 02 22:36:33 the way javascript interacts with the c++ is rather sweet Aug 02 22:42:47 something else useful fusi. You can use javascript' Aug 02 22:42:51 xmlhttp class Aug 02 22:43:05 to do networking for you without needing to use QNetowrkAcessManager Aug 02 22:46:16 yea im seeing this here Aug 02 22:46:20 incredible Aug 02 22:46:42 oooh i should of got into this a long time ago Aug 02 22:46:51 <3 Aug 02 22:47:59 someone running some sort of script kiddie attack on my server atm Aug 02 22:48:17 e.g. Aug 02 22:48:19 Node (path: 'Myphp/scripts/setup.php') could not be found. Aug 02 22:48:20 ip: 72.55.148.21 Aug 02 22:48:20 url: //Myphp/scripts/setup.php Aug 02 22:48:32 * fusi sighs Aug 02 22:48:43 looooads of them Aug 02 22:48:46 fusi: my lighttpd log is full of stuff like that Aug 02 22:48:51 all different urls to setup scripts tehe Aug 02 22:49:22 random ip scans? Aug 02 22:49:59 might have to lower the content on my 404 pages Aug 02 22:50:44 "GET /MyAdmin/scripts/setup.php "GET /myadmin/scripts/setup.php "GET /pma/scripts/setup.php "GET /phpmyadmin/scripts/setup.php ... Aug 02 22:50:58 lol yep those are the ones Aug 02 22:51:22 in my case the scanner is 67.205.103.187 Aug 02 22:52:04 got a whole filtered logfile here of suspect accesses Aug 02 22:52:18 contains... Aug 02 22:52:47 hehe Aug 02 22:52:57 2580 for this year Aug 02 22:54:03 hm wonder if the ssh gets probed too Aug 02 22:54:12 lots of naughty naughty ppl on the intarwebs Aug 02 22:54:25 this list includes ssh blocks Aug 02 22:54:28 ftp Aug 02 22:54:30 etc Aug 02 22:54:42 i dont think that tool does probe ssh Aug 02 22:54:55 i dont see correlations Aug 02 22:55:03 if it is a tool they are using Aug 02 22:55:10 looks like one though Aug 02 22:56:07 seems to only be http Aug 02 22:56:21 doesnt probe https either Aug 02 22:56:37 bit of a crap hacking tool whatever it is ^^ Aug 02 22:57:20 oh nhoes my wispa has melted Aug 02 22:59:04 namnamnam Aug 02 23:00:39 haha Aug 02 23:00:50 liboauth example code doesnt work Aug 02 23:01:02 i dont think they ran it ^^ Aug 02 23:03:20 aaah Aug 02 23:03:22 its outdated Aug 02 23:04:21 someone probably uploaded a crap or way more recent openssl to -devel, but the device is locked to an older one Aug 02 23:06:28 :) Aug 02 23:06:51 god hosting any q3 based server suxx Aug 02 23:07:02 q2 for me kthx Aug 02 23:07:27 there is a flaw in the protocol where you can kill the upstream of the server with statusrequests Aug 02 23:07:40 and my server is getting bombarded from several ips with those requests Aug 02 23:07:40 ohdear Aug 02 23:18:31 hm seems like I got them all, traffic is down to okish level again Aug 02 23:22:17 hm Aug 02 23:22:50 It is now solid green color Aug 02 23:23:48 but it blinks randomly Aug 02 23:24:01 and after some time it becames orange solid Aug 02 23:24:14 Are you colourblind? Aug 02 23:24:28 Otherwise, I'd first try a reflash. Aug 02 23:24:48 Then, in principle I'd say it's a hardware fault, so return for warrantyservice. Aug 02 23:24:58 But now that that route gets you an n8... Aug 02 23:25:34 no i'm not colourblind :) Aug 02 23:25:41 i've flashed ten minutes ago Aug 02 23:25:45 Can you ru md5sum /etc/mce/mce.ini Aug 02 23:25:46 ah Aug 02 23:25:48 nvm then Aug 02 23:25:49 angelox|laptop: if you notice nothing else but weird led just nvm it Aug 02 23:25:54 I'd say hardware fault. Aug 02 23:26:07 People have reported issues with the LED before once or twice Aug 02 23:26:08 it was working three days ago.. Aug 02 23:26:13 nokia doesn't replace n900s anymore (at least we had a few cases) Aug 02 23:26:37 i should run nvm from terminal ? Aug 02 23:27:01 s/i should/should i/ Aug 02 23:27:23 yes Aug 02 23:27:31 err - nvm - never mind Aug 02 23:27:45 As if you've flashed without resolving the issue, then it's not going to be that Aug 02 23:28:19 hmm Aug 02 23:28:25 then... Aug 02 23:28:30 i'm going to.. Aug 02 23:31:48 hmm Aug 02 23:31:55 liboauth fails on https for some reason Aug 02 23:33:35 sloghtly annoying Aug 02 23:34:06 SpeedEvil: maybe forgot RD mode enabled when flashing? Aug 02 23:34:25 RD mode will make the keyboard LEDs flash wierdly. Aug 02 23:34:32 It will not do anything to the normal LEDs Aug 02 23:34:50 hmm Aug 02 23:34:58 maybe the water i used ? Aug 02 23:35:01 :) Aug 02 23:35:08 water? Aug 02 23:35:42 i cleaned my phone with cotton Aug 02 23:36:15 With enough water to get inside? Aug 02 23:36:26 nope Aug 02 23:36:38 Shouldn't be an issue Aug 02 23:36:44 maybe a bit(but very bit) into the usb port Aug 02 23:36:54 shortcut Aug 02 23:37:35 hmm Aug 02 23:37:47 by console i can turn on/off leds finely Aug 02 23:37:55 so maybe still a software Aug 02 23:38:02 let me try plug and manually disable led Aug 02 23:39:56 hmm Aug 02 23:40:04 i now finally understood what happens Aug 02 23:40:22 orange colour works fine,it blinks like charging Aug 02 23:40:35 but the green one is turned on everytime! Aug 02 23:40:44 that makes the result seems to be a yellow Aug 02 23:40:53 so,i need disable green one Aug 02 23:41:56 maybe shortcut.. Aug 02 23:44:17 yes Aug 02 23:44:25 ERROR: Module leds_lp5523 does not exist in /proc/modules Aug 02 23:46:35 or wait.. Aug 02 23:49:46 some idea? Aug 03 00:02:50 aha Aug 03 00:03:05 libcurl is set by default to not use any certificates? Aug 03 00:03:32 like not trust any CA's Aug 03 00:03:40 so it doesnt trust any certs Aug 03 00:03:45 so any https req fails Aug 03 00:04:04 unless you screw around Aug 03 00:04:31 save the cert locally Aug 03 00:04:37 (wtf) Aug 03 00:05:22 and then use curl_setopt to set it to CURLOPT_SSL_VERIFYPEER, CURLOPT_SSL_VERIFYHOST and CURLOPT_CAINFO Aug 03 00:05:32 setting CURLOPT_CAINFO to the location of the local cert Aug 03 00:06:03 or i could just set CURLOPT_SSL_VERIFYPEER to false Aug 03 00:06:18 hmm Aug 03 00:06:32 that sucks Aug 03 00:07:28 good morning Aug 03 00:07:44 moinz Aug 03 00:09:11 http://www.openssl.org/docs/ssl/SSL_CTX_load_verify_locations.html Aug 03 00:19:44 hi all Aug 03 00:20:40 I'm currently try to compile a new package with autobuilder in extra-devel, btw the package I try to compile depend from another one I have just pushed to extra-devel also Aug 03 00:21:43 prolly have to wait? Aug 03 00:21:47 obviously the package don't compile claiming it couldn't find the other package ... Aug 03 00:21:47 iono :) Aug 03 00:22:16 fusi, have to wait about what ? Aug 03 00:22:31 for the autobuilder or smt? Aug 03 00:22:36 a guess ^^ Aug 03 00:23:12 well, the 1st package was already successfully compiled by autobuilder ... Aug 03 00:23:45 mm Aug 03 00:23:51 i cant help sorry Aug 03 00:24:03 u need someone with more knowledge Aug 03 00:26:55 maybe mm Aug 03 00:27:01 have you installed the 1st package Aug 03 00:37:14 fusi, yes Aug 03 00:41:11 testers: please consider giving a thumb-up to http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/marble-maps/1.2.0-1/ and http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/monav-routing-daemon/0.3.release-1/ Aug 03 00:41:45 * SpeedEvil installs. Aug 03 00:45:55 SpeedEvil: Apparently, the shortcut dissapeared :) Aug 03 00:46:10 off Aug 03 00:46:11 odd Aug 03 00:46:28 yes,at least it is working Aug 03 00:46:31 let me reboot Aug 03 00:47:01 it gets fully green when it charged,and when i unlock the screen,it power offs led,showing that everything is ok Aug 03 00:47:46 yep,there's no more problem Aug 03 00:47:49 thanks everyone! Aug 03 00:48:00 DocScrutinizer: Wow - marble has a pile of deps Aug 03 00:48:08 next time i will not use water Aug 03 00:48:10 hehe Aug 03 00:48:18 Water is fine. Aug 03 00:48:19 But. Aug 03 00:48:29 It should be only damp Aug 03 00:48:47 You shouldn't be able to wring out any water Aug 03 00:49:29 after a lot of beats it goes out Aug 03 00:49:32 Also - if I was you, I'd put it in a hot place for a day with the battery pulled out. Aug 03 00:49:47 beats at the pillow :) Aug 03 00:49:55 hmm Aug 03 00:49:57 hot place.. Aug 03 00:50:08 but not moist Aug 03 00:50:19 back of your pc Aug 03 00:50:22 my pc Aug 03 00:50:23 yes.. Aug 03 00:50:42 (un)fortunately my pc gets hot very fast when compiling :) Aug 03 00:50:54 so i'll leave it compiling some kernel :) Aug 03 00:51:02 BATTERY OUT Aug 03 00:51:10 yep Aug 03 00:52:02 or visit a galvanics factory to learn what current and liquid can do Aug 03 00:52:33 but i know Aug 03 00:53:02 before embedded linux,i played with eletronic(i don't know the correct name in english) Aug 03 00:53:26 but i forgot to cover the holes in my phone before cleaning :) Aug 03 00:54:39 fusi, finally I have reinstalled the 1st package from the extra-devel, recompiled the 2nd and pushed it to autobuilder, then it was compiled successfully right now ... Aug 03 00:54:48 fusi, thanks for your help ... Aug 03 00:55:28 DocScrutinizer: btw,where's apt? Aug 03 00:56:15 s/apt/infobot/ Aug 03 00:56:19 N900 is extremely sensitive to liquids Aug 03 00:56:29 it's dead Aug 03 00:57:12 [2011-08-02 12:06:17] * DocScrutinizer frowns at [2011-08-02 12:04:03] [Notify] infobot ist offline (irc.freenode.org). [2011-08-02 12:04:03] [Notify] apt ist offline (irc.freenode.org). [2011-08-02 12:49:01] hmmm [2011-08-02 12:50:02] brownout at Riker's Castle? Aug 03 00:57:59 hmm ok Aug 03 00:58:27 angelox|laptop: I'm one of ibot's masters but I have no access to the iron hosting it Aug 03 00:59:07 DocScrutinizer: Understood,i thought you had :) Aug 03 00:59:17 alas not Aug 03 01:01:38 I can restart the bot, edit factoids, even try to add new channels, but I have NFC why the host is gone Aug 03 01:02:47 prolly sb cut Tim's landline&DSL cable Aug 03 01:03:26 i see.. Aug 03 01:07:31 anyway: Aug 03 01:07:33 [2011-08-02 12:50:02] brownout at Riker's Castle? Aug 03 01:07:34  Aug 03 01:07:36 [2011-08-02 13:16:13] *** ChanServ setzt Modus: +o infobot Aug 03 01:07:37 [2011-08-02 19:40:58] *** ChanServ setzt Modus: +o TimRiker Aug 03 01:08:10 dunno what' Aug 03 01:08:15 s going on Aug 03 01:08:56 01:55 < DocScrutinizer> N900 is extremely sensitive to liquids Aug 03 01:08:57 there's still no hot-standby scheme for ibot Aug 03 01:08:58 eep? Aug 03 01:09:09 eep??? Aug 03 01:09:25 erp Aug 03 01:09:47 burp Aug 03 01:10:01 didnt drop urs in water or smt did u? Aug 03 01:10:03 angelox|laptop: I tried to convince Tim to let me install a fallback/hot-standby but he was reluctant regarding factoid database duplication Aug 03 01:10:03 :s Aug 03 01:10:48 oh Aug 03 01:10:55 eeep like uhm Aug 03 01:11:01 eeeeeeeeeeep!!!111 Aug 03 01:11:04 wow Aug 03 01:11:04 herp! Aug 03 01:11:08 its not an acronym afaik :p Aug 03 01:11:12 DucScrutinizer: i see... Aug 03 01:11:19 fusi: I did http://maemo.cloud-7.de/Gallery-N900-exploded/ so I *know* where are the holes for water to come in Aug 03 01:11:39 oooh Aug 03 01:11:45 DocScrutinizer: sorry,i wrote DUCscrutinizer :( Aug 03 01:11:57 <3 DocScrutinizer Aug 03 01:12:09 you didn't write duck though ;-D Aug 03 01:13:01 heh Aug 03 01:13:02 :) Aug 03 01:13:19 woooaah vm weirdness Aug 03 01:13:23 brb Aug 03 01:15:27 i need go and sleep Aug 03 01:15:35 Good Night Everyone Aug 03 02:38:17 Hi! Is there a way to rearrange windows in the task manager, i.e., if the list is 1, 2, 3, 4, can we make it 4, 2, 1, 3? Aug 03 02:50:59 * DocScrutinizer announces he's back to fremantle 100% of time, until maybe eventually there'll be an TC free harmattan system, or a *working* _real_ meego Aug 03 02:51:45 this also means all harmattan projects are suspended and postponed until that condition is met Aug 03 02:51:57 all of *my* projects Aug 03 02:52:36 N950 repackaged and stowed away 10 min ago **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Aug 03 02:59:57 2011