**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Aug 13 02:59:57 2011 Aug 13 06:30:57 vsb end Aug 13 07:52:39 does anyone know how to use the oculo widget with websites that need a sign-in? like twitter/facebook etc? Aug 13 08:08:15 .join #math Aug 13 09:30:11 hi is extended call log the oly way to vie the call duration time? Aug 13 10:47:10 <3 mplayer... **** Your system is too SLOW to play this! **** Aug 13 10:47:20 :) Aug 13 10:47:51 If you use it to record a stream with -dumpstream, it ends with "Core dumped" :) Aug 13 11:08:15 Mh. I got a feeling that audio is the big problem for mplayer. If I use -ao null videos play a lot smoother. I doubt that it's a cpu problem for decoding audio. Probably an issue with pulse or so? Aug 13 11:09:00 Hi, anybody made a simple video-player plugin that can choose play audio of a video Aug 13 11:09:34 Mplayer can, but not via the KMplayer gui Aug 13 11:10:15 robbiethe1st: I knew that, its too complicate to find the files with only mplayer. there are no window management here:S Aug 13 11:10:26 Does mplayer use the n900 hardware accelleration? Aug 13 11:10:51 did any1 manage to play podcasts on n900 Aug 13 11:10:52 ? Aug 13 11:15:48 Aren't they just mp3 files? Aug 13 11:15:50 If so... Aug 13 11:15:53 no Aug 13 11:16:06 m4a Aug 13 11:16:15 files are podcasts, well most of them.. Aug 13 11:17:18 rename them to mp4 if needed; but mplayer ought to play it Aug 13 11:18:13 hehe, isnt that kinda furstrating? it takes 14min to convert Aug 13 11:18:18 m4a to mp3 Aug 13 11:18:40 there isnt any suitable podcast program for n900 to play podcasting.. Aug 13 11:19:45 i've added a list of repositories into /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon_blah_blah.list but i don't see them in the hildon app manager, why? Aug 13 11:21:07 No. rename to mp4 and see if it'll recognise it Aug 13 11:21:28 also, remember that "podcasts" can be of many formats. I've seen plenty of mp3 "podcasts" Aug 13 11:24:37 Is it possible to supply the maemo media player with a cookie file to use with an http url? Aug 13 11:26:57 No clue, just use wget to grab it? Aug 13 11:27:30 Mplayer and or VLC ought to be able to do it if you really need it in the player... Aug 13 11:27:42 robbiethe1st: No I mean when launching it over dbus with a http:// uri, but it would need a cookie to access that uri. Aug 13 11:27:47 mplayer can do it. Aug 13 11:28:45 I have to ask: why stream it in the first place? Aug 13 11:28:52 Can't you download it, then play? Aug 13 11:30:26 robbiethe1st: Because it plays more quickly, instead of waiting for the complete thing to be downloaded Aug 13 11:31:21 Oh. You may be able to simply start the download, then play it in another terminal as it's downloading Aug 13 11:31:35 Unlike windows, Linux allows multiple programs to read while the files being written Aug 13 11:31:54 Works great with VLC/KMPlayer on my desktop with xvid streams Aug 13 11:47:11 Mh Aug 13 11:47:23 It seems like mplayer is not using the DSP to decode H264 Aug 13 11:49:56 No, it isn't Aug 13 11:50:09 It doesn't use the DSP at all, IIRC Aug 13 12:04:35 hi is extended call log the only way to view the call duration time? Aug 13 12:56:31 ping MohammadAG Aug 13 12:56:42 pong Aug 13 12:57:07 I see that Ofline IMAP support for modest was merged on gitorious Aug 13 12:57:28 but its needs one new lang string Aug 13 12:58:25 _("mcen_fi_advsetup_offline_sync") Aug 13 12:59:45 can you regenerate modest.pot file in tree modest-l10n? Aug 13 13:01:22 doesn't a rebuild trigger that? Aug 13 13:02:34 I do not know, but we need to add translations of this new string Aug 13 13:03:39 in English it could be "Enable offline IMAP support for this account" or someting similar Aug 13 13:04:57 see modest screen (with patch) without translation: http://mat.exon.name/modest/ Aug 13 13:42:56 Is there any business card reader app in repo? Aug 13 13:45:21 trumee, what kind of business cards? vcards or qrcodes? Aug 13 13:45:30 lcuk: vcards Aug 13 13:46:12 afaik normal contacts can be imported in contacts list Aug 13 13:46:33 open contacts app, menu "Get contacts" Aug 13 13:46:46 lcuk: i have a paper business card which i want scanned and imported into contacts. Aug 13 13:47:01 with ocr? Aug 13 13:47:12 lcuk: yes Aug 13 13:47:24 trumee, to be honest quickest is just writing them Aug 13 13:47:28 typing Aug 13 13:47:34 lcuk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzenf1bv6LA Aug 13 13:48:13 lcuk: typing them takes out the wow factor. But it is a solution Aug 13 13:48:19 speak to lardman Aug 13 13:49:19 he is adding ocs to mbarcode afaik Aug 13 13:49:21 lcuk: google doesnt return any application for linux desktop Aug 13 13:49:25 ocr Aug 13 14:11:32 X-Fade ping Aug 13 15:02:56 hi guys. my question is: does any application exist to convert my n900 into remote touchpad for linux? Aug 13 15:03:45 sure, ssh :3 Aug 13 15:04:56 like ssh root@n900 cat /dev/inputX ? Aug 13 15:04:59 hm.... Aug 13 15:06:07 bluemaemo Aug 13 15:06:31 though I do not remember if it works as is on the N900, but it did very well on my N810. Aug 13 15:07:08 gena2x, what do you mean? Aug 13 15:07:16 bluemaemo is app to make device into HID device Aug 13 15:07:35 javispedro: good, thanks Aug 13 15:08:44 I understood touchpad as in "trackpad" Aug 13 15:08:47 i only miss bluetooth support on my PC :) Aug 13 15:14:29 may be somehow over wifi? Aug 13 15:21:55 I imagine there will be plenty of rewriting the code to make it all work with wifi Aug 13 15:23:15 that plus turning the device into a touchpad/trackpad and having connected over wifi, you probably would end up with the device chewing a fair amount of power Aug 13 16:04:36 I just realized how old python on the n900 is. Aug 13 16:04:40 2.5... Aug 13 16:04:55 the docs even used to look differently... http://docs.python.org/release/2.5.4/lib/node532.html Aug 13 16:38:25 Is anyone aware of any 'hardware' nokia resource? I recall finding a site giving details of how to build a nokia phone charger - voltages and currents. Aug 13 16:38:42 I'm wondering if there is a similar site for NFC/N9 Aug 13 16:42:26 SpeedEvil: don't think it'll help you but the N9 NFC controller is an NXP PN544 Aug 13 16:43:58 it has "Power by the Field" mode Aug 13 16:45:17 Thanks Aug 13 16:45:48 Trying to work out if it can interrogate cards, or act as a host only Aug 13 17:24:13 anyone has the harmattan SDK installed that can run a command for me? Aug 13 17:53:21 * Shapeshifter is on to remembering how to package a python package for the autobuilder queue... Aug 13 18:33:26 How do I correctly package a command line application so it's in PATH but not in the hildon start menu? Last time (for a GUI app) I made a desktop entry in /usr/share/applications/hildon but that's not right now... Aug 13 18:36:03 Should I just drop a symlink/launch script into /usr/bin ? Aug 13 18:36:29 because $PATH doesn't contain much more than that. Aug 13 18:53:28 hi is extended call log the only way to view the call duration time? Aug 13 19:41:54 hello Aug 13 19:43:55 does anyone here know how to repartition and repack a emmc image Aug 13 20:00:34 ok, atleast tell me what format the emmc image is in Aug 13 20:00:44 as its not a plain image Aug 13 20:00:56 It seems like everyone's out having beers. Aug 13 20:01:06 -> Docscrutemp has joined maemo Aug 13 20:01:13 i hope he knows Aug 13 20:01:44 have u checked tmo? i'm pretty sure it's there Aug 13 20:02:22 tmo? Aug 13 20:02:50 talk.maemo.org Aug 13 20:04:57 i know i've seen it before, but right now can't check it out for you. sorry. also check out first part of http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools . not sure if that's relevant Aug 13 20:31:25 yeah thats just resizing /home Aug 13 20:31:32 i wanna make a custom emmc image Aug 13 20:39:13 :/ tmo... Aug 13 20:44:49 there Aug 13 20:44:55 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=52925 Aug 13 20:45:01 peterbjornxz: ^^ Aug 13 20:46:34 prolly documention for flasher will give clues too :/ Aug 13 20:53:47 006148115Norman SpinradNo Direction Homeaccsm Aug 13 20:53:50 argh Aug 13 21:03:19 more N900 at CCCamp than I thought got sold ;-) Aug 13 21:04:08 SpeedEvil: what do u mean at http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Software_Power_management#Avoidable when you say "Keeping audio active when idle. Pulseaudio can use a large amount of power in some cases, playing 'silence'." Aug 13 21:04:14 how can that be avoided? Aug 13 21:05:16 Stoppig the audio stream, not playing 'null' Aug 13 21:06:05 044631250 Neil Hancock The Wilderness of four-2 Aug 13 21:06:07 argh Aug 13 21:06:12 when Im got a SIM for local camp GSM, the guy at POC desk who sold it to me asked me if there's already new firmware for N950 he would get his next day Aug 13 21:07:18 Sicelo: close audio device/pipe/process on idle/silent Aug 13 21:07:46 thanks :) Aug 13 21:09:34 is it too bad an idea to use the device with bme stopped? Aug 13 21:11:58 Sicelo: It will cause unexpected reboots Aug 13 21:12:07 And the modem to stop working unexpectedly Aug 13 21:13:18 hi is extended call log the only way to view the call duration time? Aug 13 21:13:50 docscrutinizer do you have any info on the emmc image format Aug 13 21:18:36 sorry no Aug 13 21:19:51 ? Aug 13 21:22:58 thanks for help. see y'all laters Aug 13 21:29:22 docscrutinizer, is there any info on FIASCO images then? Aug 13 21:30:03 ~FIASCO Aug 13 21:30:05 L4-compatible real-time microkernel capable of running Linux in usermode. URL: http://os.inf.tu-dresden.de/fiasco/ Aug 13 21:30:14 ~fiasco Aug 13 21:30:16 L4-compatible real-time microkernel capable of running Linux in usermode. URL: http://os.inf.tu-dresden.de/fiasco/ Aug 13 21:31:24 DocScrutinizer51 Aug 13 21:42:24 wazzup? Aug 13 21:43:10 DocScrutinizer51: I wrote a cli client for youtube. Aug 13 21:43:17 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1069359 Aug 13 21:46:06 Shapeshifter: cool Aug 13 22:36:47 im making progress on reverse engineering the flasher so i can write a FIASCO/eMMC format image creator tool Aug 13 22:37:02 :) Aug 13 23:12:03 Um, Firefox 6? Aug 13 23:12:10 Wasn't 5 out, like, 3 months ago? Aug 13 23:13:14 They have that new "rapid-release" cycle going on. Aug 13 23:13:15 what you say! Aug 13 23:13:24 they're at 12 already. Aug 13 23:13:41 14 Aug 13 23:13:53 using firefox? y u no use nightly Aug 13 23:13:59 * javispedro has decided to keep 3.6 until they get sane again Aug 13 23:14:19 Can't they just stfu and use the 'buntu versioning scheme (year.month) Aug 13 23:14:37 Six weeks per release or something-such. After a decade or so they'll hit Firefox 100. Aug 13 23:14:39 zash: they will start doing that from version 11 Aug 13 23:14:40 >:D Aug 13 23:14:47 That's silly. Aug 13 23:14:49 well, version 12 probably Aug 13 23:15:14 One presumes they were just jealous of Chrome's bigger numbers. Aug 13 23:15:24 BIGGER IS BETTER Aug 13 23:15:39 Why don't they just release Firefox 2000 already Aug 13 23:15:51 and then +=1000 that Aug 13 23:15:51 well someone thought they ought to do something or they would be quickly surpassed by chrome in quota Aug 13 23:16:01 until it's OVER 9000!!! Aug 13 23:16:12 it's funny cause at least for me it's actually doing the opposite. Aug 13 23:16:26 (and I'm a chrome hater) Aug 13 23:16:33 javispedro, 3.6 is slower than 4.0 Aug 13 23:17:09 so what Aug 13 23:17:20 disable tabs on top Aug 13 23:17:25 pretty much the same Aug 13 23:18:15 the only pages that are javascript constrainedand I usually visit are: a local TV guide and engadget. The local TV guide took like 10 seconds to load in Firefox1 and takes 8 seconds to load in Firefox3 despite all the performance crazy according to benchmarks Aug 13 23:18:29 and Engadget will always use all available CPU time no matter the performance, so no big deal. Aug 13 23:18:49 javispedro: too true :p Aug 13 23:19:26 javispedro, I have a local site that'll make you feel better Aug 13 23:19:34 http://panet.co.il Aug 13 23:19:42 5 seconds on microB and the N900's a goner Aug 13 23:20:51 god. Aug 13 23:21:16 also, Firefox4 doesn't support my extensions. and I really mean mine. Aug 13 23:21:19 <--- lazy bastard. Aug 13 23:24:29 * javispedro goes back to crashing the N950's X server Aug 13 23:42:55 dammit Aug 13 23:43:32 this function in flasher is confusing as hell Aug 13 23:45:53 anyone got any info on nokia's image format (FIASCO/eMMC the format with header 0xB4) Aug 13 23:46:09 *magic 0xb4 Aug 13 23:46:11 peter, flasher -F -u Aug 13 23:46:36 no, i want to pack a eMMC image for the flasher Aug 13 23:46:44 fiasco-gen? Aug 13 23:47:28 thanks Aug 14 00:05:34 is the mmc image solely the ext3 part Aug 14 00:05:39 or how does this work Aug 14 00:05:40 nope Aug 14 00:05:53 it contains p1 mydocs p2 ext3 p3 swap Aug 14 00:06:04 ok, then how is it only 250mb Aug 14 00:06:15 sparse file Aug 14 00:06:22 p2 is mostly empty Aug 14 00:06:35 maemo ubifs moves files to p2 on first boot Aug 14 00:06:43 ok, then how do i create a new one from scratch Aug 14 00:07:31 it's hard Aug 14 00:07:40 well, it's hard for emmc Aug 14 00:07:54 since you dont know exactly where the partitions start and end Aug 14 00:08:22 and loopmount doesnt work well with sparse files Aug 14 00:08:38 just reflash device and use backupmenu to fudge around with partitions Aug 14 00:08:57 then back it all up, and store it as a backupmenu... backup. Aug 14 00:09:31 btw don't mess with the partition order Aug 14 00:09:46 p1 must be fat32, p2 must be ext3, p3 must be swap Aug 14 00:09:56 unless you changed genfstab.awk and rcS-late Aug 14 00:10:27 you are free to shrink all of them and make mmcblk0p4 a partition for nitdroid though Aug 14 00:10:37 i dont want to install nitdroid Aug 14 00:10:41 k Aug 14 00:10:50 i wanted to build a modified image on my dev box Aug 14 00:10:54 ah Aug 14 00:11:03 backupmenu would be easier to deal with Aug 14 00:11:24 cause my n900 has a habit of rebooting when copying files or doing other IO/RAM intensive work Aug 14 00:11:29 flasher is extremely cryptic, the way it sends images over the line to directly flash the device Aug 14 00:11:52 peterbjornxz, look into improving N900's IO performance with swappolube Aug 14 00:12:28 blame ohmd and cfs for that Aug 14 00:12:34 especially cfs Aug 14 00:12:54 so theres no simple way for modifying a mmc image on pc Aug 14 00:12:58 yes Aug 14 00:13:15 too bad ohmd interferes with bfs, but without ohmd the phone's processes run wild Aug 14 00:13:49 but, how does the flasher determine where in the mmc image partitions start Aug 14 00:19:46 but, how does the flasher determine where in the mmc image partitions start (resending cause my internet connection is acting up) Aug 14 00:23:19 there's a layout file Aug 14 00:23:34 it doesnt contain offsets into the image Aug 14 00:23:37 just sizes Aug 14 00:24:07 iirc there's something in the image that you can edit by hand to change sizes Aug 14 00:24:17 its the+ Aug 14 00:24:24 layout file Aug 14 00:24:26 bu Aug 14 00:24:27 anyways, it's all cryptic to me, i never poked in maemo 5 flasher, i poked in maemo 6 flasher Aug 14 00:24:43 but, from what ive seen Aug 14 00:24:55 the layout file just defines the layout on-chip Aug 14 00:25:04 but says nothing about the image layout Aug 14 00:30:27 but , how does maemo "6" do it **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Aug 14 02:59:57 2011