**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Oct 11 02:59:57 2011 Oct 11 03:57:40 I can not open MeBook epub reader now, error: libQtWebkit.so.4: can not open shared object file: No such file or directory. I try to search and install this lib file. but can not find. so does anyone can tell me how to fix it ? Oct 11 04:45:12 dont throw tomatoes if I'm asking a question about a really old platform.. but... I have an n770 running 2007he: what I'm trying to do is simply install fbreader to make some use of this old thing, but its stuck looking for libfribidi0 -- I've downloaded the 10.7-4 and 10.9-x versions and the app installer keeps telling me its an incompatible package.. any ideas how to install the right package? I cant find a 10.7-1 of fribidi (same version as fbreader) Oct 11 04:45:50 no wifi here, copying files over usb Oct 11 07:15:12 apt-get install --ignore-missing fbreader ? Oct 11 07:15:22 FIReun: ^^^ Oct 11 07:17:12 * DocScrutinizer does wild-guessing Oct 11 07:18:32 except for the probably correct assumption that an app needing 10.7-1 of xy.so should usually work just fine with 10.7-4 of xy.so Oct 11 07:19:03 http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Program-Library-HOWTO/shared-libraries.html Oct 11 07:22:51 hI Oct 11 07:23:06 :( picking up my still broken n900 from fedex today Oct 11 07:23:09 ugh Oct 11 07:24:04 foo fighters aren't that good Oct 11 07:24:44 also note the soname should be identical libfribidi0.so.10 for libfribidi0.so.10.7-1 and libfribidi0.so.10.7-4, and your app (fbreader) *should* only check for that soname Oct 11 07:35:22 FIReun: so my (still wild) guess was you maybe need to run ldconfig, to make the soname link point to the right realname of libfribidi0 Oct 11 08:29:20 DocScrutinizer: that shared lib explanation is a nice one, thanks Oct 11 08:40:17 edheldil: yw Oct 11 08:49:32 hi guys Oct 11 08:49:49 how do i debug native components in maemo? Oct 11 08:50:08 err, as usual Oct 11 08:50:20 what's a native component? Oct 11 08:50:26 libresource Oct 11 08:51:01 there's this resource-test.c Oct 11 08:51:23 and how would you _like_ to debug it? Oct 11 08:51:26 how do i debug that? i'm sorry if my question is a bit silly , but i'm new to all this Oct 11 08:51:41 using GDB Oct 11 08:52:07 fine, so you're set, there's gdb on fremantle Oct 11 08:52:57 runs just fine I've been told - plus there's even a remote variant Oct 11 08:52:58 but as i understand, libresource is part of the platform rite? Oct 11 08:53:25 err, I dunno libresource Oct 11 08:53:46 for that matter any library part of the maemo platform Oct 11 08:54:09 so this not a lib that i'm creating Oct 11 08:54:17 its already a part of the platform Oct 11 08:54:24 most libs are oss and thus no problem to debug with gdb for that part Oct 11 08:54:52 http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Oct 11 08:55:23 ya but what shou;d be my environment? a virtual box running a maemo image? Oct 11 08:55:37 basically exactly like on your ISA PC Oct 11 08:56:06 so would a virtual; box image work fine? Oct 11 08:59:10 wel, the CPU is quite a bit different, the system... NOT Oct 11 09:00:47 I've seen WinXP and MacOS running on N900, in qemu though Oct 11 09:01:23 or was it winNT? Oct 11 09:02:12 and of course "running" (iirc MacOS needed 2h30 until first window opened) Oct 11 09:03:38 your environment? The device, or scratchbox Oct 11 09:05:26 (of course scratchbox on PC won't provide any of the specific hardware interfaces, so e.g. testing a GPS driver was a bit problematic in scratchbox emu) Oct 11 09:06:02 testing a generic lib however should work Oct 11 09:06:44 probably unless it's liblocation or libisi Oct 11 09:07:34 * DocScrutinizer wonders idly if scratchbox libisi would somehow connect to phone via network and cdc_phonet Oct 11 09:08:16 MEH, gn8 - l8r Oct 11 09:09:14 Nimesh_Accenture: http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation Oct 11 09:09:47 http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/devtools/maemo5 Oct 11 09:11:09 http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/devtools/maemo5#Installation Oct 11 09:24:32 DocScrutinizer: Hehe "running". Reminds me of trying Win95 in PC-Task on my Amiga back then Oct 11 13:10:41 A pair of seemingly official adverts for Nokia's first Windows Phone handset have been discovered, which give the rumored Sea Ray the extremely dull new product name Nokia N800. Oct 11 13:10:55 (ok, ladies and gentlemen, you can officially throw up now) Oct 11 13:11:34 * Arkenoi still cannot understand what is the point of reusing model numbers Oct 11 13:12:25 to add insult to the injury for all the current Nokia product users? Oct 11 13:14:34 RST38h, do you have any idea what's wrong with my devel-sh? Oct 11 13:14:42 (offtopic here though) Oct 11 13:14:57 it has been further limited by their platsec team Oct 11 13:15:05 omfg Oct 11 13:15:21 to keep evil people from harming you, if we are to believ the djs-whatever guy Oct 11 13:15:26 but how? i do not remember getting any updates.. though there could be. Oct 11 13:15:34 have not been any Oct 11 13:15:58 so why did it happen and is anyone else affected? :-) Oct 11 13:17:54 no idea, I am away from the device right now Oct 11 13:20:37 Arkenoi: what has happened? Oct 11 13:24:04 Hi Oct 11 13:24:10 Someone sent me an email re spam in the Maemo wiki last week Oct 11 13:24:15 Reggie, I think? Oct 11 13:24:49 There are many wiki admins now - which of them are active in the wiki, I don't know Oct 11 13:25:14 edheldil, my n950's devel-sh *suddenly* stopped running arbitrary unsigned binaries Oct 11 13:25:54 The admins are: amigadave, andre, andrewblack, danielwilms, myself, feri, finni, generalantilles, jacktanner, jaffa, marcell, myrtti, qgil, vdvsx, xfade, zerojay Oct 11 13:26:06 And I'll happily add others Oct 11 13:26:16 Anyone here care? Oct 11 13:30:46 ah Oct 11 13:32:32 dneary_: Someone was moaning about spam, IIRC? Oct 11 13:48:22 dneary_, I don't think anybody cares. Do you also consider http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Avinrude spam? Oct 11 13:59:21 anyone knows how to restart gui't on n900 ? Oct 11 13:59:31 getting att bit sluggish in the menus and everything Oct 11 13:59:53 dont want to do reboot the device, just the gui Oct 11 14:00:08 afaik this is not possible Oct 11 14:00:55 right now, i have closed all apps. and so on. But it's really slow now Oct 11 14:01:10 several seconds between "screens" when touching it Oct 11 14:01:12 check if something is eating the cpu cycles Oct 11 14:01:21 see top in the terminal Oct 11 14:01:24 well, nothing weird is going on there Oct 11 14:01:54 libben: i think killall hildon-desktop as normal user is what u want Oct 11 14:02:04 also, killall hildon-home Oct 11 14:02:22 not as root though Oct 11 14:02:25 from ssh login ? Oct 11 14:03:05 you can even do it directly on device Oct 11 14:03:32 libben: i think killall hildon-desktop as normal user is what u want Oct 11 14:03:41 that's another way to reboot the device Oct 11 14:03:42 :-) Oct 11 14:03:51 i dont want to reboot it Oct 11 14:03:52 =) Oct 11 14:04:04 no NIN101 Oct 11 14:04:07 because the watchdogs won't like it, and will reboot the device Oct 11 14:04:17 it's as root that it reboots device Oct 11 14:04:23 hmm Oct 11 14:04:32 as user, it just re-spawns it Oct 11 14:04:42 hmm Oct 11 14:04:47 at least mine does so Oct 11 14:04:53 Sicelo: just tested, you are right :-) Oct 11 14:04:56 cant login at my user Oct 11 14:05:04 must forgot password Oct 11 14:05:05 =) Oct 11 14:05:16 change password for root at the phone? Oct 11 14:05:19 possible? Oct 11 14:05:27 cause on the phone i just type root Oct 11 14:05:31 and then i become root Oct 11 14:05:43 but i want to login with ssh and printscreen my htop for u Oct 11 14:05:46 libben: don't killall hildon-desktop as root Oct 11 14:08:25 http://piclair.com/85uis there is my htop Oct 11 14:08:32 dont understand why ists sluggish as hell Oct 11 14:10:26 Sicelo: NIN101 http://piclair.com/data/85uis.jpg Oct 11 14:10:37 any reasons why hildon should act sluggish? Oct 11 14:12:04 dunno. And u just don't want to reboot to keep your uptime alive :-)? Oct 11 14:12:14 =) Oct 11 14:12:15 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/11/nokia_ringtone/ Oct 11 14:12:21 im working hard on that one =) Oct 11 14:12:49 i use my phone everyday and charge it like 1 hour before i leave work and when i go to bed. Otherwise it will die on me.. Oct 11 14:13:10 I otoh wonder if so much pulseaudio is normal Oct 11 14:13:11 trying to see how long i can get it running without messing it up =) Oct 11 14:13:25 pulseaudi is the mediaplayer i presume Oct 11 14:13:33 no Oct 11 14:13:43 ooh Oct 11 14:13:46 what is it then? Oct 11 14:13:56 it's the sound server Oct 11 14:14:32 for? Oct 11 14:14:35 the N900 Oct 11 14:14:45 yeah, but what is sound server ? Oct 11 14:14:50 for the calls? Oct 11 14:15:12 with this thing it's possible to mute one application but not another one Oct 11 14:15:26 aah... hm Oct 11 14:17:41 libben: also try killing hildon-status-menu Oct 11 14:18:06 as user too Oct 11 14:19:37 so kill hildon-desktop && hildon-status-menu Oct 11 14:20:35 yeahyes Oct 11 14:23:42 kill hildon-desktop Oct 11 14:23:46 just says not found Oct 11 14:23:54 killall not kill Oct 11 14:24:00 killall hildon-desktop Oct 11 14:28:13 thanks, a little bit faster Oct 11 14:28:26 should i try kill pulseaudio as well and hope for it to restart? Oct 11 14:30:49 or, whats the worst thing with killing pulseaudio and i cant get it to start, that my games are not muted where they are supposed to be muted? Oct 11 14:31:08 or my phonecalls is at a default value every time someone calls? Oct 11 14:32:09 if pulseaudio does not run, you won't hear anything, I think Oct 11 14:32:14 * Arkenoi tries to figure out why my n900 is much faster after reflash and applying performance hacks and bfs -- either performance hacks work really good or just disabling activesync did the trick Oct 11 14:34:08 pulseaudio should respawn after being killed. Oct 11 14:38:10 reflash makes it faster anyway Oct 11 14:38:16 fragmentation is sometimes an issue Oct 11 14:40:27 any use of meego on n900 yet or still just fooling around? Oct 11 14:56:59 libben, http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900 Oct 11 14:57:23 ~omap-oc Oct 11 14:57:23 it has been said that omap-oc is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2010-08-01.log.html#t2010-08-01T22:16:05 read that!, or and this http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2011-03-11.log.html#t2011-03-11T03:04:11 Oct 11 15:07:03 hi.. got problems building a theme package on Ubuntu: http://pastebin.com/xgmspmn5 Have you got any ideas? Oct 11 15:18:38 andre_: I have only been going to the Maemo wiki for spam when asked to do so Oct 11 15:18:54 ah, ok Oct 11 15:18:55 Jaffa, Do you still go to the Maemo wiki? Oct 11 15:19:25 Jaffa, If none of the maintainers go, and no-one cares about the content, we should make the wiki read only Oct 11 15:19:39 We can do that, you know :) Oct 11 15:19:47 thopiekar: maybe you are are missing hildon macros for automake Oct 11 15:20:30 the wiki is still in use, so why read-only? Oct 11 15:21:01 where are these hildon macros for automake located? maybe in scratchbox? or libhildon? Oct 11 15:21:39 andre__, Looks to me like the wiki is only in use by smappers Oct 11 15:21:59 And why read-only? Because I don't want to get any more weekend emails asking me to revert spam edits :) Oct 11 15:22:15 sounds logical Oct 11 15:22:31 spammers, not smappers Oct 11 15:22:39 Thanks timeless :) Oct 11 15:23:08 dneary_: I still go to it; and still use it. Oct 11 15:23:20 dneary_: Surely anyone can revert spam edits? Oct 11 15:23:47 dneary_, errm, no? see the latest changes - that's definitely not spammers only... Oct 11 15:24:52 andre__, Jaffa, then the people who go & edit it will need to share the maintenance burden Oct 11 15:25:12 makes sense Oct 11 15:25:20 dneary_: I don't disagree - but I'm still not clear why you're having to do it Oct 11 15:25:28 Jaffa, And no, reverting (properly) and banning users are sysop privileges Oct 11 15:25:35 Oh Oct 11 15:26:00 Jaffa, Just undoing the edit leaves the spam in the history, indexed by Google, and brings you more spammers Oct 11 15:26:11 You need to rollback the revision Oct 11 15:26:18 Jaffa, You are an admin, thoughh Oct 11 15:26:27 Indeed; which is what I've been clicking Oct 11 15:26:39 So, there needs to be a distributed point-of-contact rather than people emailing you Oct 11 15:26:46 e.g. a mailing list of ppl who can do it Oct 11 15:26:50 Yup Oct 11 15:27:00 You can see all the sysops in Special:Users Oct 11 15:28:18 (I think that's the name of the page) Oct 11 16:19:28 Hi! Is anybody aware of more recent e2fsprogs for the N900? The e2fsck 1.41.3 is ancient and seems to be causing problems on my device. Oct 11 16:19:51 I was able to copy my filesystem image to desktop and repair it there with 1.41.14. Oct 11 16:28:42 asked that on a ubuntu channel but didn't get any answer.. where is the difference between building a package with pbuilder and dpkg-buildpackage? I am able to build a package via dpkg-buildpackage but it fails in pbuilder (launchpad).. http://pastebin.com/xgmspmn5 .. what can I do? Oct 11 16:28:58 aah wrong channel :D Oct 11 16:34:01 well all I can say from your pastebin is Oct 11 16:34:28 that your autotools can't locate pkg.m4 and they are not parsing it, that's why you get the syntax error on PKG_CHECK_MODULES Oct 11 16:37:02 seems to be a missing package! Oct 11 16:37:35 eijk: I kind have the feeling that you ran fsck on a partition which was mounted :-) Oct 11 16:37:35 many thanks Sc0rpius! searched for a solution for hours! Oct 11 16:37:35 seems to be an ugly mixed up environment Oct 11 16:38:01 well I'd say that your autotools have a different default prefix for packages than pkg-config... Oct 11 16:38:23 NIN101: Sorry, you are wrong. It's not mounted. I know what I am doing :-) Oct 11 16:38:36 Sc0rpius: yes, I'm building hildon-desktop on Ubuntu.. found the missing package, called: pkg-config Oct 11 16:38:47 eijk: it's possible to compile a newer version in the sdk. Oct 11 16:38:53 why are you building hildon-desktop on Ubuntu?!?! Oct 11 16:39:06 NIN101: Ok, just thought there might be something in the Community SSU that I didn't spot yet. Oct 11 16:39:20 It would be great to also have those core tools updated. Oct 11 16:39:49 Want to use the hildon-desktop on my ASUS T91, which has working graphics drivers on Ubuntu.. Oct 11 16:39:56 the aging software is probably the most annoying thing in maemo. Oct 11 16:40:24 I'm actually making on every new Ubuntu release a downgrade for it (the Intel EMGD driver) Oct 11 16:40:48 hmmm Oct 11 16:40:53 have you heard of "Ubuntu mobile"? Oct 11 16:40:58 that already has hildon Oct 11 16:40:58 some kind of Cordia for Ubuntu.. https://launchpad.net/~cordia-team/ Oct 11 16:41:07 yes but OS2008 Oct 11 16:41:30 as far as I remember.. Oct 11 16:41:57 well yeah I guess they stopped development of that Oct 11 16:43:11 I think only because Nokia moved to git.. there are code imports in launchpad but they point to old svn url's Oct 11 16:43:47 I use now smoku's sources and build it in that PPA Oct 11 16:44:14 hildon-desktop seems to work well, just have no themes at the moment Oct 11 16:44:19 :) Oct 11 16:44:20 ok let's say you install hildon and all that stuff Oct 11 16:44:24 that Asus T91 is a tablet? Oct 11 16:45:00 I'll give you one week and you'll wipe it Oct 11 16:45:53 the lack of software thought to use by finger touch will drive you nuts Oct 11 16:46:18 the ASUS T91 is a netbook+tablet (convertable) Oct 11 16:46:34 thats what the [T]91 stands for.. Oct 11 16:48:00 I also found out that hildon-theme-slicer is broken when build in amd64 Oct 11 16:50:46 Sc0rpius: but I haven't thought about that problem with the keyboard before.. I mean I have not much problems while having a keyboard but pure tables would need a usb-keyboard.. Oct 11 16:51:15 isn't there a project providing a input plugin for hildon? Oct 11 16:55:05 pure tablets don't really need USB keyboards... Oct 11 16:55:18 I mean I have an Android tablet and it's fine without a keyboard Oct 11 16:55:38 because the whole thing was designed to not have a physical keyboard, all the apps, all the user interface, etc. Oct 11 17:00:02 sure all I would need to add now would be a on-screen keyboard which shows up like on my N900 when clicking on a textfield Oct 11 17:00:15 I'm sure I saw such a project on the net Oct 11 17:00:56 thopiekar, there are many Oct 11 17:01:00 found it http://wiki.meego.com/Maliit Oct 11 17:01:23 which would be the best for a Ubuntu system? , Venemo_N900 Oct 11 17:02:30 thopiekar, I have no idea. there is hildon-input-method which may or may not work, but isn't maintained, or maliit which is used in Meego and Harmatta Oct 11 17:02:32 n Oct 11 17:06:09 that could be useful for the beginning: https://launchpad.net/~openismus-team/+archive/openismus-meego-im/+packages Oct 11 17:13:35 ~seen jonwil Oct 11 17:13:40 jonwil <~jonwil@27-33-137-199.static.tpgi.com.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko-cdevel, 4d 3h 41m 30s ago, saying: 'I cant find anything about that anywhere'. Oct 11 18:20:24 anyone know offhand if the n800 hardware drivers ever made it to the mainstream kernel? Oct 11 19:10:09 interesting question Oct 11 19:10:44 I'd take "made it to the mainstream kernel" to mean, as in source code. Oct 11 19:11:20 though the kernel does carry binary blobs now too, doesn't it? That's as far as it would probably have gone for n800-specific hardware, if I had to guess. Oct 11 19:11:27 and I do (have to guess, that is). Oct 11 20:19:27 hmhm, does “connection refused / security block" rings a bell to someone (connection to n900 via bluetooth) Oct 11 20:22:16 Hi, I am using pyside with phonon to play sound. That works. But audioOutput.setVolume(...) does not work and the sound always plays on full volume. What am I doing wrong? Oct 11 20:23:18 using phonon maybe? Oct 11 20:24:34 phonon makes me want to go vomiting whenever I try to configure my KDE in a way it doesn't suck, regarding audio Oct 11 20:24:58 ha ha. There's not other working audio interface in python+qt Oct 11 20:25:25 ... on n900 Oct 11 20:25:34 phonen feels like PA-mindfsck^2 Oct 11 20:25:45 phonon* Oct 11 20:25:49 Man, you vomit a lot Oct 11 20:26:09 Maybe switching to FreeBSD/Xfce/dsp0 will help? Oct 11 20:27:00 anyway, there's not replacement, so regardless of it suckiness, I would like to get it work Oct 11 20:27:20 its Oct 11 20:33:21 mzanetti ? Oct 11 21:06:52 i can't seem to find any documentation for creating a maemo them from scratch.. Oct 11 21:53:48 quick question Oct 11 21:54:12 i need a guide or tutorial on how to diagnose and fix it when the app menu stays empty Oct 11 21:54:17 where can i find that? Oct 11 22:15:39 hello peeps , its me again im having an issue with a code in queenbeecon osso-xterm -e "sudo nmap -sS -v -PN 192.168.1.1-70 " Oct 11 22:16:18 it opens xterminal runs code fine but then it closes how can i keep it open any ideas Oct 11 22:28:01 are you there doc , you normall got loads of good ideas lol Oct 11 22:33:49 hi there is anyone willing to help me with metasploit issue? Oct 11 22:34:05 Zer0cool: give "sudo nmap -sS -v -PN 192.168.1.1-70 ; read" a try Oct 11 22:39:24 nope still same issue ..cheers thou Oct 11 22:51:57 so it doesn't understand ; Oct 11 22:52:47 nope i guess not , just closes once scan is finished Oct 11 22:52:49 put it in a shellscript Oct 11 22:52:56 wait... Oct 11 22:53:15 kk Oct 11 22:53:24 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ecyX4i9K that's it Oct 11 22:53:28 make it chmod +x Oct 11 22:54:30 and then Oct 11 22:54:40 osso-xterm -e /pathtothescript Oct 11 22:54:58 2 seconds Oct 11 22:58:48 gutted same issue it closes once it scanned ... Oct 11 22:58:53 cheers thou Oct 11 23:02:43 Zer0cool: just tested that, though without nmap but with ls, the point is it stays open so I really dunno why not on your device :-). Oct 11 23:03:23 now it opens 2 terminal one does nothin strange Oct 11 23:04:15 maybe cause im using queenbeecon for shortcut ... Oct 11 23:05:25 Zer0cool Oct 11 23:05:27 sorry I had a blackout Oct 11 23:05:29 lol Oct 11 23:05:55 http://pastebin.com/pNgLXN2m I meant this Oct 11 23:09:34 cheers but nothing happens with , i did move sudo inside " an it opens but closes Oct 11 23:12:21 I fial. the command shouldn't be in " " Oct 11 23:13:18 * NIN101 is tired and should sleep. Oct 11 23:15:04 well thanks for your help give me 2 seconds before you go Oct 11 23:15:11 sudo "nmap -sS -v -PN 192.168.1.1-70" must be sudo nmap -sS -v -PN 192.168.1.1-70 Oct 11 23:17:04 it worked dude , you are a star many thanks for your help i removed " an all fine Oct 11 23:17:30 yw Oct 11 23:17:36 new issue thou is closes if i try an type on termianl any idea what that is about Oct 11 23:17:59 never mind you go to sleep thanks again Oct 11 23:18:45 try replacing "read" with /bin/sh or /bin/bash, depending what shell you have installed. Oct 11 23:19:33 thanks Oct 11 23:19:46 gn8 Oct 11 23:19:55 ye night thanks Oct 11 23:34:33 http://maemo.org/ down? Oct 11 23:34:56 response time over 10 Oct 11 23:34:57 s Oct 11 23:35:06 20s Oct 11 23:35:09 prolly **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Oct 12 02:59:57 2011