**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Oct 25 02:59:57 2011
Oct 25 04:19:59 <jonwil> is there a way to tell apt-get to reinstall a package even if the package is already installed?
Oct 25 04:20:12 <jonwil> without first removing it
Oct 25 04:22:46 <jonwil> found ity
Oct 25 04:23:27 <DocScrutinizer> --force-reinstall or sth like that
Oct 25 04:24:03 <DocScrutinizer> --reinstall ?
Oct 25 04:41:29 <timeless_xchat> ping
Oct 25 04:41:44 <timeless_xchat> which device friendly repo has make?
Oct 25 04:56:48 <Macer> lmao
Oct 25 04:57:11 <jonwil> anyone any good with autoconf and makefile.am files?
Oct 25 04:57:11 <Macer> my n900 is shipping from overseas and wont get here for a month
Oct 25 04:57:28 <Macer> awesome
Oct 25 04:57:55 <Macer> i dont think my g2 is going to last much longer.  it is on  its last limb
Oct 25 04:58:02 <Macer> :-)
Oct 25 05:22:46 <orangey> hello all
Oct 25 05:22:52 <orangey> what's the best twitter client?
Oct 25 05:24:56 <orangey> hmm. sounds like khweeteur vs. tweedsuit
Oct 25 05:25:00 <doc|home> that's not a reasonable question. Your definition of best and ours could be completely different.
Oct 25 05:25:21 <orangey> doc|home: true. I thought about that. I figured that if there were a clear winner, that would emerge
Oct 25 05:25:48 <orangey> e.g., if you say what's the best desktop in linux, you'll get 4 answers out of a possible 20+ desktop environments out there
Oct 25 05:25:50 <doc|home> if it's down to two then try both and see which you prefer
Oct 25 05:25:57 <orangey> doc|home: yeah, will do.
Oct 25 05:26:01 <orangey> what do you use, if any?
Oct 25 05:26:17 <doc|home> I don't, twitter's a waste of time :P
Oct 25 05:26:34 <orangey> of course it is!
Oct 25 05:26:39 <orangey> but communication in general is : )
Oct 25 05:26:54 <doc|home> there's such a thing as productive twitter :)
Oct 25 05:27:01 <doc|home> er, damn it
Oct 25 05:27:04 <doc|home> productive communcation
Oct 25 05:27:14 <orangey> there's such a thing as productive twitter, too
Oct 25 05:27:20 <doc|home> rubbish
Oct 25 05:27:27 <orangey> my usecase is pretty good
Oct 25 05:27:29 <doc|home> now you're just being ridiculous
Oct 25 05:27:40 <orangey> I used to receive links about interesting articles from people via email
Oct 25 05:27:52 <orangey> I had filters more or less categorize them in appropriate folders
Oct 25 05:28:01 <orangey> now, by and large those people have all moved to identi.ca/twitter
Oct 25 05:28:14 <orangey> the good ones are still referencing/linking good articles for me to read
Oct 25 05:28:24 <orangey> just in a different place.
Oct 25 05:28:47 <orangey> I actually don't understand why you can't follow public twitter feeds without an account, actually
Oct 25 05:28:57 <orangey> but no real client has that functionality
Oct 25 05:29:21 <orangey> anyhow, I think that if you back off of your dogmatic view of twitter as total garbage, you'll realize that you can dumpster dive some good stuff sometimes
Oct 25 05:29:33 <doc|home> either way, you're still in a dumpster
Oct 25 05:30:10 <orangey> people eat out of dumpsters
Oct 25 05:30:24 <orangey> sometimes really delicious stuff
Oct 25 05:30:29 <doc|home> oh, well, when you put it that way...
Oct 25 05:30:38 <orangey> like a friday night outside a grocery store.. yum!
Oct 25 05:30:58 <doc|home> I'm going to go over here now to talk to the not-crazy dumpster-food eating people
Oct 25 05:31:00 <doc|home> ---->
Oct 25 05:31:03 <doc|home> :)
Oct 25 05:31:07 <orangey> hahahahaha!
Oct 25 05:31:43 <orangey> what's your main means of communication?
Oct 25 05:32:06 <orangey> hmm. khweeteur's installation segfaults
Oct 25 05:33:38 <orangey> sweet! tweedsuit lets you add RSS feeds too!
Oct 25 05:33:42 <orangey> but no identi.ca
Oct 25 05:35:20 <orangey> as expected, both together would be the perfect product
Oct 25 05:39:28 <jonwil> bah, cant figure out this makefile and debian stuff
Oct 25 05:51:17 <jonwil> Anyone here any good with automake/autoconf/dpkg?
Oct 25 07:57:14 <crashanddie> jonwil, just ask
Oct 25 09:01:21 <jack_lt> DocScrutinizer2, I need to download a charger script? where to find it?
Oct 25 09:02:51 <Sicelo^> ~hostmode-charging
Oct 25 09:02:52 <infobot> well, hostmode-powered is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=921203#post921203
Oct 25 09:03:10 <Sicelo^> jack_lt: http://enivax.net/jk/n900/charge.sh.txt
Oct 25 09:03:28 <jack_lt> 404 Not Found
Oct 25 09:03:48 <Sicelo^> use this one actually.. latest http://enivax.net/jk/n900/charge21.sh.txt
Oct 25 09:04:10 <jack_lt> ok thx
Oct 25 09:09:49 <jack_lt>  logger stopping vboost && boostoff 
Oct 25 09:10:00 <jack_lt> do I need anything special to run this? ^
Oct 25 09:10:10 <Sicelo^> no. 
Oct 25 09:10:17 <jack_lt> k
Oct 25 09:10:46 <Sicelo^> just run the charge script.. just make sure to use the correct order, ie, don't connect external power before hitting VBoost ON
Oct 25 09:11:13 <Sicelo^> the other commands he put in there were for testing, etc. u don't need them
Oct 25 09:15:12 <Sicelo^> if u are using latest booston script, the dialog to the effect that usb power has been shut down for no reason is not an error msg. took me long to learn
Oct 25 09:23:59 <jack_lt> Sicelo^, charging seems to work, but my keybd doesn't work yet together with charging
Oct 25 09:24:14 <jack_lt> Sicelo^, i've it connected to the active hub
Oct 25 09:25:19 <jack_lt> Sicelo^, Y-cale, 2xA + 1x mini B: main A to upstream hub, other A to downstream hub (charging), usb keybd to other downstream hub
Oct 25 09:31:48 <Sicelo^> did it get recognized after enumeration? check dmesg
Oct 25 09:41:30 <jack_n900> http://fpaste.org/a4KZ/
Oct 25 09:41:47 <jack_n900> Sicelo^, 
Oct 25 09:41:49 <cityLights> I dont understand 700$ for the N9?
Oct 25 09:51:04 <cityLights> hi lardman
Oct 25 09:51:08 <cityLights> coming to fosdem?
Oct 25 09:52:55 <jack_n900> hmm
Oct 25 10:00:51 <Sicelo^> try with only the y-cable
Oct 25 10:02:16 <jack_n900> without hub?
Oct 25 10:03:04 <Sicelo^> yes
Oct 25 10:04:35 <jack_n900> with charger?
Oct 25 10:04:59 <jack_n900> ./charger
Oct 25 10:05:26 <Sicelo^> yeah. see doc's pic as well.
Oct 25 10:06:20 <Sicelo^> also, u may want to restart h-e-n.
Oct 25 10:12:50 <jack_n900> it has nothing to charge from I guess
Oct 25 10:13:28 <jack_n900> without hub
Oct 25 10:14:59 <jack_n900> when do u run logger stopping boostoff
Oct 25 10:15:38 <jack_n900> after booston and connecting usb y + hub?
Oct 25 10:16:29 <jack_n900> or before connecting usb stuff
Oct 25 10:17:17 <Sicelo^> u don't need those. just run hen as usual. when u enable vboost, connect your whole setup to N900. enumerate...
Oct 25 10:17:31 <Sicelo^> then you can start the charging script
Oct 25 10:30:12 <jack_n900> hm i ve my keybd connected with y only
Oct 25 10:30:21 <jack_n900> no charging
Oct 25 10:30:35 <jack_n900> low speed
Oct 25 10:30:52 <jack_n900> keybd conn. to main A
Oct 25 10:31:23 <Sicelo^> how do u connect the B to N900?
Oct 25 10:31:53 <jack_n900> micro B directly 
Oct 25 10:33:28 <Sicelo^> your Y-cable has direct conn to N900? wow!
Oct 25 10:34:00 <jack_n900> with micro usb 
Oct 25 10:34:56 <jack_n900> hmm if I start charger now and connct other A to hub it seems to charge
Oct 25 10:35:02 <Sicelo^> ok. so u must. 1) connect external power to y-cable. and connect kbb. but not to N900 yet. 2) start hen, then soon after u hit Vboost, connect the whole thing to N900
Oct 25 10:35:32 <Sicelo^> 3) start the charge script.. u can also enumerate at this time
Oct 25 10:36:08 <jack_n900> this is what i described right?
Oct 25 10:37:15 <jack_n900> keyb to main
Oct 25 10:37:20 <jack_n900> low speed
Oct 25 10:37:44 <jack_n900> micro usb to n900
Oct 25 10:37:52 <Sicelo^> then i dunno why it's not working. my n900 is actually happier with external power than without
Oct 25 10:37:54 <jack_n900> othet A to hub
Oct 25 10:38:10 <jack_n900> its working now
Oct 25 10:38:16 <jack_n900> afaik
Oct 25 10:38:57 <Sicelo^> working? as well as charging?
Oct 25 10:39:08 <jack_n900> looks like
Oct 25 10:39:41 <jack_n900> but keybd is directly to n900 via Y
Oct 25 10:39:52 <Sicelo^> :)
Oct 25 10:39:58 <jack_n900> does that mean it sucks more power?
Oct 25 10:40:08 <jack_n900> or gets its power from the hub via the Y
Oct 25 10:40:25 <Sicelo^> u also have hhub connected?
Oct 25 10:40:32 <Sicelo^> s/hh/h/
Oct 25 10:40:32 <infobot> Sicelo^ meant: u also have hub connected?
Oct 25 10:40:55 <lardman> hey cityLights 
Oct 25 10:41:05 <jack_n900> one A from Y goes to the hub to get power
Oct 25 10:41:12 <jack_n900> the non main A
Oct 25 10:41:14 <lardman> sorry for the slow reply, probably joined when I switched laptop on and checked my mail
Oct 25 10:41:31 <Sicelo^> ok.  it's fine like that
Oct 25 10:41:49 <jack_n900> the percentage from .charger does it give the state of battery?
Oct 25 10:42:01 <Sicelo^> power is coming from the hub. N900 has stopped providing that power.
Oct 25 10:42:07 <jack_n900> from 58 to 60% now
Oct 25 10:42:30 <Sicelo^> charger script is working fine. :) u are charging, yes.. and it is correct state of battery
Oct 25 10:42:44 <jack_n900> ok cool
Oct 25 10:42:52 <jack_n900> ha ha nice nice
Oct 25 10:43:03 <jack_n900> geeky that is ;)
Oct 25 10:43:32 <Sicelo^> very :P
Oct 25 10:43:38 <Sicelo^> i use it to show off, lol
Oct 25 10:43:50 <jack_n900> he
Oct 25 10:43:59 <jack_n900> need to go now very fast ..
Oct 25 10:44:00 <jack_n900> thx
Oct 25 10:44:02 <jack_n900> bbl
Oct 25 10:44:12 * jack_n900 comes too late
Oct 25 11:04:15 <DocScrutinizer> Sicelo^: thanks
Oct 25 11:09:50 <Sicelo^> thanks too :)
Oct 25 11:16:41 <AlmightyOatmeal> feel the love
Oct 25 12:57:00 <RST38h> http://adage.com/article/digital/nokia-windows-phone-miss-holidays-u-s/230604/
Oct 25 12:59:46 <SpeedEvil> Insane.
Oct 25 13:00:00 <SpeedEvil> And it's probably too late to push n9s into the chanel, even if they wanted
Oct 25 13:11:44 <jonwil> bah, this damn thing still wont build properly :(
Oct 25 13:36:32 <vdv> can anybody advise some working how-to to install nitdroid UMay on internal mmc?
Oct 25 13:36:42 <vdv> i've looked here http://wiki.maemo.org/Nitdroid_easy_install_on_EMMC#Installing_Nitdroid
Oct 25 13:36:52 <vdv> but not sure if it works
Oct 25 13:37:03 <vdv> because there's no instruction to install multiboot
Oct 25 13:37:38 <Dibblah> Wow!
Oct 25 13:37:39 <Dibblah> http://www.dealextreme.com/p/n9-3-5-lcd-touch-screen-dual-sim-dual-network-standby-quadband-gsm-cell-phone-java-black-103485
Oct 25 13:37:54 <Dibblah> An N9 for $76.40 ;) ;) ;)
Oct 25 13:37:57 <ShadowJK> lol
Oct 25 13:38:49 <Dibblah> It does Java! That must be good, right? Dual sim, too!
Oct 25 13:39:37 <Sicelo^> vdv: i haven't used it. but i suppose multiboot comes in at step 2, Enable (all) repos
Oct 25 13:40:41 <Sicelo^> which is followed, after a few steps, by apt-get install nitdroid-installer
Oct 25 13:52:21 <vdv> Sicelo, thanks
Oct 25 13:55:37 <vdv> Sicelo, but you have nitdroid installed on internal mmc?
Oct 25 13:55:59 <Sicelo^> no. i don't use nitdroid. what i said is guesswork
Oct 25 13:56:22 <crashanddie> This channel does not support nitdroid
Oct 25 13:57:10 <Sicelo^> :P
Oct 25 14:01:02 * jonwil wonders why people dont like nitdroid that much...
Oct 25 14:01:09 <jonwil> Is it something to do with android generally
Oct 25 14:01:18 <jonwil> or is the port to the Nxxx just crap?
Oct 25 14:01:40 * Sicelo^ understands it to be 2
Oct 25 14:07:49 <crashanddie> man, our server load just went from 40 to 800 in 15 minutes
Oct 25 14:08:14 <crashanddie> CPUs still at around 60% tops, 30-40% average
Oct 25 14:09:43 <X-Fade> crashanddie: IO? Disk died or so?
Oct 25 14:09:51 <crashanddie> Nope
Oct 25 14:10:12 <X-Fade> crashanddie: Nothing in dmesg?
Oct 25 14:10:17 <crashanddie> Disk is fine, hardware interrupts at 0.1%, software interrupts at 0.6%
Oct 25 14:10:40 <X-Fade> vmstat shows nothing out of the ordinary?
Oct 25 14:11:12 <crashanddie> procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- --system-- -----cpu------
Oct 25 14:11:12 <crashanddie>  r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   so    bi    bo   in   cs us sy id wa st
Oct 25 14:11:12 <crashanddie>  0  0    484  82672 208976 9243332    0    0     8    17    0    1  1  0 98  0  0
Oct 25 14:11:14 <crashanddie> nope
Oct 25 14:11:27 <ShadowJK> is that first line of output from vmstat...
Oct 25 14:11:30 <X-Fade> crashanddie: run it a bit longer.
Oct 25 14:11:44 <X-Fade> crashanddie: vmstat 1, and see after 5 secs or so.
Oct 25 14:13:21 <crashanddie> http://slexy.org/raw/s2ThK0WjUS
Oct 25 14:14:01 <X-Fade> crashanddie: Just a lot of processes.
Oct 25 14:14:05 <crashanddie> aye
Oct 25 14:14:56 <crashanddie> but there's 200 processes running, how can the load shoot up to 800?
Oct 25 14:15:12 <SpeedEvil> threads
Oct 25 14:15:17 <crashanddie> none
Oct 25 14:34:23 <vdv> if partition starts at cylinder 2 and ends on 884865, how can i calculate the size of the partition?
Oct 25 15:08:09 <vdv> how can i get list of installed packages? with dpkg -l?
Oct 25 15:19:10 <flux> yes. another way is dpkg --get-selection (and --set-selection is its inverse)
Oct 25 15:32:22 <jacks_n900> DocScrutinizer, ok keybd + charger seems to working. nice
Oct 25 15:33:19 <jacks_n900> i ve usb directly to main A 
Oct 25 15:33:32 <jacks_n900> of Y 
Oct 25 15:33:44 <jacks_n900> micro B to n900
Oct 25 15:33:55 <jacks_n900> other A usb to hub for power
Oct 25 15:34:08 <jacks_n900> low speed as without hub 
Oct 25 15:40:46 <jacks_n900> e.g. usb keybd directly to main A of Y-cable via FF adapt.
Oct 25 15:49:07 <jacks_n900> e.g. usb keybd directly to main A of Y-cable via FF adapt.
Oct 25 17:06:13 <pwn3dU> Can I install maemo on Nokia N8?
Oct 25 17:07:49 <petteri> not possible
Oct 25 17:09:57 <jacks_n900> hm
Oct 25 17:15:49 <pwn3dU> ok 
Oct 25 17:16:12 <pwn3dU> there is only one nokia phone which has maemo installeed, right?
Oct 25 17:17:35 <GeneralAntilles> Well, arguably there are /3/.
Oct 25 17:17:39 <GeneralAntilles> But Nokia doesn't market it that way.
Oct 25 17:17:44 <SpeedEvil> One escaped.
Oct 25 17:17:48 <SpeedEvil> It wasn't really released.
Oct 25 17:17:53 <GeneralAntilles> Yes
Oct 25 17:17:54 <SpeedEvil> So, two.
Oct 25 17:17:59 <GeneralAntilles> the other is discontinued
Oct 25 17:18:01 <SpeedEvil> But one for sale now.
Oct 25 17:18:08 <GeneralAntilles> and the latest one is mostly not available to anybody living in a real country.
Oct 25 17:18:54 <pwn3dU> is it worth buying a maemo phone?
Oct 25 17:19:04 <SpeedEvil> pwn3dU: the n9?
Oct 25 17:19:19 <SpeedEvil> Investigate it, see if it appeals to you.
Oct 25 17:19:23 <pwn3dU> when there is iPhones and Android?
Oct 25 17:19:34 <pwn3dU> maemo is linux, right?
Oct 25 17:19:53 <GeneralAntilles> Yeah
Oct 25 17:20:03 <GeneralAntilles> iOS and Andoid are Suffering, though.
Oct 25 17:20:09 <DocScrutinizer> unlike andridiot
Oct 25 17:21:40 <pwn3dU> in maemo can I compile and run most of the linux porgrams?
Oct 25 17:22:56 <crashanddie> pwn3dU, yes, but the same is true for webOS and Android to a lesser extent
Oct 25 17:23:29 <pwn3dU> I Android I can't compile and run conventional linux programs
Oct 25 17:23:59 <pwn3dU> In android all the programs run under Dalvik VM
Oct 25 17:24:23 <crashanddie> erhm, no.
Oct 25 17:24:36 <crashanddie> In Android, you can run regular C apps, you just need to link against the Android libc.
Oct 25 17:26:55 <pwn3dU> really?
Oct 25 17:27:28 <crashanddie> Do you even understand what Android is?
Oct 25 17:27:31 <crashanddie> ffs
Oct 25 17:27:32 <DocScrutinizer> for some weird definition of "run" that might be true
Oct 25 17:28:26 <pwn3dU> Android is linux
Oct 25 17:28:48 <pwn3dU> the programs you write are in java
Oct 25 17:28:51 <DocScrutinizer> err, not really
Oct 25 17:28:56 <pwn3dU> I know you can
Oct 25 17:29:00 <pwn3dU> run c in anroid
Oct 25 17:29:21 <pwn3dU> using the NDK
Oct 25 17:30:15 <pwn3dU> But it's not like a linux machine, I want to weather maemo fells like linux?
Oct 25 17:30:22 <crashanddie> whether
Oct 25 17:30:54 <DocScrutinizer> yes, maemo fremantle pretty much feels like it should
Oct 25 17:31:50 <pwn3dU> *whether
Oct 25 17:32:19 <DocScrutinizer> mostly FHS conforming, all the usual commands are available, the kernel is OSS and 99.x% linus-head
Oct 25 17:32:22 <pwn3dU> crashanddie: autocorrect on my mac
Oct 25 17:33:24 <pwn3dU> @DocScrutinizer that sounds good
Oct 25 17:33:27 <DocScrutinizer> all the usual libs are there as well, with same API
Oct 25 17:34:56 <DocScrutinizer> for harmattan though you got this thing called aegis that forbids I guess 70% of what I'm used to do on my linux machines on a daily basis
Oct 25 17:35:29 <jaska> hmm, i thought they managed to bypass it?
Oct 25 17:35:35 <DocScrutinizer> so harmattan kinda is like a linux system without root access
Oct 25 17:36:09 <petteri> on n9 i have just put my binaries to /home/user/bin and they seem to work as they should
Oct 25 17:36:19 <petteri> running on from terminal
Oct 25 17:36:28 <DocScrutinizer> jaska: well, you can boot your own kernel without aegis, and watch the userland system break into pieces
Oct 25 17:36:29 <petteri> from terminal
Oct 25 18:19:34 <RST38h> Ok, so they are notreleasing WP7 phones to the US
Oct 25 18:19:52 <RST38h> Doing Europe first. So much for Elop's wonderful new strategy.
Oct 25 18:20:19 <ShadowJK> lol
Oct 25 18:20:46 <RST38h> If we are lucky, we will have pleasure to watch 'em release these into the same markets they released N9 to =)
Oct 25 18:21:43 <GeneralAntilles> Awesome.
Oct 25 18:26:56 <ErwinJunge> RST38h: So Belgium and.... Kazakhstan?
Oct 25 18:27:29 <RST38h> yeah
Oct 25 18:30:54 <nielsle_> The train stations in Denmark are full of N9 advertisements these days.
Oct 25 19:09:44 <AcTiVaTe> hi all
Oct 25 19:11:25 <Sicelo> hey ya AcTiVaTe 
Oct 25 19:11:28 <AcTiVaTe> I was wondering if anyone could tell me why I can't get others to join my hotspot using Qt Mobile Hotspot
Oct 25 19:12:12 <AcTiVaTe> on my laptop I don't even see the network and specfying the SSID by hand didn't change a thing
Oct 25 19:20:51 <jacks_n900> DocScrutinizer, so keybd + charger is working now ... :)
Oct 25 19:21:08 <jacks_n900> thx
Oct 25 19:21:34 <DocScrutinizer> yw
Oct 25 19:31:18 <jacks_n900> bbl
Oct 25 21:10:22 * javispedro sighs at the recent tmo overclocking  thread
Oct 25 21:16:49 <DocScrutinizer> ooh
Oct 25 21:16:58 <DocScrutinizer> the one I left? :-D
Oct 25 21:29:59 <javispedro> that one indeed.
Oct 25 21:36:17 * DocScrutinizer headdesks
Oct 25 21:36:52 * DocScrutinizer blames javispedro for making him read posts like http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1113633&postcount=79
Oct 25 21:37:20 <GeneralAntilles> lol
Oct 25 21:37:24 <javispedro> you are entirely to blame
Oct 25 21:37:33 <javispedro> I don't usually sigh after reading a high quality post ;P
Oct 25 21:37:48 <DocScrutinizer> right
Oct 25 21:38:47 * DocScrutinizer is afraid of next sleep - nightmare of getting a job at first level helpdesk pending
Oct 25 21:39:24 <javispedro> a helpdesk job?
Oct 25 21:39:47 <javispedro> a large, red, flashing "ABORT MISSION" usually appears on my brain after the word helpdesk is heard
Oct 25 21:39:52 <DocScrutinizer> I might have a nighmare of that
Oct 25 21:41:32 <DocScrutinizer> the "is it safe" thread gave my subconscious enough of ideas for a decent nightmare next night. And I'm actually about to sign an employment where it's unclear what I will have to do, so... :-O
Oct 25 22:24:56 * DocScrutinizer idly wonders what happpened to that guy who wanted to swap borked eMMC for a uSD some days ago. Did he succeed in editing all mmcblk[01] occurrences and movinf /home and swap (and MyDocs) over to uSD?
Oct 26 00:14:02 <jonwil> anyone here good with autoconf/automake who can take a look at my makefiles and see why they arent doing what I want?
Oct 26 00:14:08 <jonwil> Relavent bits are at http://www.cncmods.net/files/cbspatch.zip
Oct 26 00:15:15 <jonwil> I just cant get it to output the cbspatch binary :(
Oct 26 00:21:01 <cehteh> jonwil: i am to lazy to download/unzip it, may you paste the relevent parts to a pastebin?
Oct 26 00:23:27 <jonwil> http://pastebin.com/zrVCsWn8
Oct 26 00:23:34 <jonwil> Thats got the 3 relavent files pasted into it
Oct 26 00:23:46 <jonwil> or what should be the relavent files
Oct 26 00:34:03 <cehteh> eek SUBDIRS= :P
Oct 26 00:35:02 <cehteh> jonwil: noinst_PROGRAMS = cbspatch
Oct 26 00:35:15 <cehteh> instead  cbspatch_PROGRAMS =
Oct 26 00:36:09 <jonwil> Is that what I want if I am using dpkg to package this binary up?
Oct 26 00:36:24 <cehteh> nope .. you asked for building it :)
Oct 26 00:36:24 <jonwil> or whatever the command is
Oct 26 00:36:31 <cehteh> well bin_PROGRAMS then?
Oct 26 00:36:34 <jonwil> ok
Oct 26 00:36:48 <jonwil> ok, bin_PROGRAMS it is
Oct 26 00:36:52 <cehteh> note: i dont know about package building 
Oct 26 00:37:00 <cehteh> just a bit of autotools
Oct 26 00:37:32 <jonwil> I just need to know what the right statement is for that so that the binary will end up in /usr/bin if I did a "make install"
Oct 26 00:37:37 <jonwil> then the dpkg bits should do the rest
Oct 26 00:38:07 <cehteh> yes bin_PROGRAMS then
Oct 26 00:38:46 <jonwil> ok
Oct 26 00:38:58 <jonwil> so bin_PROGRAMS causes output to go to /usr/bin and not /bin?
Oct 26 00:41:22 <cehteh> $prefix/bin
Oct 26 00:41:27 <cehteh> whatever your prefix is 
Oct 26 00:41:47 <cehteh> by default its /usr/local .. but i bet debian package sets it to /usr
Oct 26 00:43:48 <jonwil> ok
Oct 26 00:44:47 <jonwil> ok, I did things and its now just saying "make: nothing to be done for 'all'"
Oct 26 00:45:01 <jonwil> with bin_PROGRAMS set
Oct 26 00:45:19 <jonwil> just running normal make, not dpkg stuff
Oct 26 00:45:27 <jonwil> having re-run automake etc
Oct 26 00:45:40 <cehteh> normally not (if yes then your packaging is broken)
Oct 26 00:45:51 <cehteh> oh well .. using SUBDIRS= is broken :P
Oct 26 00:46:08 <cehteh> but check if it created the binary
Oct 26 00:46:20 <cehteh> in the build dir (or some subdir, depending on the setup)
Oct 26 00:46:29 <jonwil> it didnt create the binary
Oct 26 00:47:42 <cehteh> sorry i avoid recursive builds .. to much pita
Oct 26 00:47:52 <jonwil> when I run autoreconf to do the autoconf bits, it says "unused variable: cbspatch_SOURCES"
Oct 26 00:48:02 <cehteh> rather doing a include for sub makefiles
Oct 26 00:48:09 <cehteh> yes
Oct 26 00:48:37 <cehteh> eh what have you now?
Oct 26 00:48:42 <cehteh> some typo?
Oct 26 00:48:49 <cehteh> pastebin it
Oct 26 00:48:52 <jonwil> ok
Oct 26 00:49:42 <jonwil> http://pastebin.com/5Hm8JVYc
Oct 26 00:49:53 <jonwil> thats the makefile as it looks bnow
Oct 26 00:49:55 <jonwil> now
Oct 26 00:50:12 <jonwil> duh, bin_PROGAMS?
Oct 26 00:50:16 <jonwil> bah :P
Oct 26 00:50:41 <jonwil> lets see if this does something now
Oct 26 00:50:59 <cehteh> haha and not 2 underscores 
Oct 26 00:51:12 <cehteh> at __SOURCES and __CFLAGS
Oct 26 00:51:53 <jonwil> ok, trying again
Oct 26 00:52:06 <jonwil> now it doesnt tell me "unused variable blah"
Oct 26 00:52:13 <jonwil> so it should build
Oct 26 00:53:19 <jonwil> we have a binary :)
Oct 26 00:53:24 <jonwil> thanks for your help
Oct 26 00:54:28 <jonwil> now the packaging should grab the binary
Oct 26 02:08:21 <SpeedEvil> Okaay. Has anyone seen a thing where the phone will not properly respond to touch events - it responds to the first click, then acts like the button is held down. 
Oct 26 02:08:45 <SpeedEvil> I don't think it's hardware, as if I lock, and unlock, a new event is generated at the right screen location.
Oct 26 02:16:58 <GeneralAntilles> N900?
Oct 26 02:18:48 <SpeedEvil> yes
Oct 26 02:19:05 <SpeedEvil> And yes - reflash is the simple answer which gets more complex without a USB port
Oct 26 02:40:03 <jonwil> If this displays the right output, I think we are good to go with cell broadcast SMS :)
Oct 26 02:41:20 <jonwil> YES, its displaying an incoming cell broadcast
Oct 26 02:41:34 <jonwil> all the packaging and patching seems to be WORKING at last
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