**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Nov 06 02:59:57 2011 Nov 06 06:30:39 bah, I cant get anywhere with reverse engineering the "conversations" app unless I can find someone who knows stuff about telepathy :( Nov 06 07:53:06 blah Nov 06 07:53:18 copying stuff over wifi so i don't have to touch the usb port lol Nov 06 07:53:32 i am so paranoid about the usb port in my new n900 that i wish i didn't have to touch it altogether Nov 06 07:53:40 i need to find a compatible charging pad Nov 06 07:55:24 hm Nov 06 07:59:14 * jonwil is bored :( Nov 06 08:01:30 jonwil, ever recovered any ext3 data? Nov 06 08:01:37 nope Nov 06 08:07:24 make a image copy before attempting any fsck on flash medias Nov 06 08:10:29 its not that, I stupidly executed mkfs.ext3 on the wrong target. I've already dumped the image and used photorec on it but I'm not getting any filenames back, just the files :/ Nov 06 08:10:42 hi all Nov 06 08:10:49 buy.com has the n810 at 130$ Nov 06 08:11:07 and I have being considering buying it for the last two days Nov 06 08:13:05 does someone know where drnoksnes actually stores its configuration? by default it should be in ~/.config/drnoksnes.conf, but the launcher tells it to look for it in /usr/share/games/drnoksnes/drnoksnes.conf, but the content of that file looks like a desktop icon?? Nov 06 08:13:17 and certainly doesn't contain my configuration, which still works Nov 06 08:13:51 "desktop icon" meaning a .desktop file for hildon basically Nov 06 08:14:36 meh I'll just install strace.. Nov 06 08:20:04 ...didn't help :) Nov 06 08:20:54 I suppose javispedro knows about it, but I'm just kinda baffled how it's supposed to work Nov 06 08:26:45 the problem I have is that at least with a certain game, I can play it, but if I go back to the menu, there's no Continue/Restart buttons and I have to kill drnoksnes to get it working again Nov 06 08:27:20 and it usually has been working so that I can simply press my way out of it and it'll pause it nicely Nov 06 08:30:34 hmm...though I can apparently work around that by opening the rom selection dialog, then closing it, and now I got the buttons clickable again and can even close drnoksnes without killing it Nov 06 08:31:14 what I'm wondering is if it's normal that I can't find where it stores its config and the apparent "config" file is not a config file at all imo Nov 06 09:10:46 wifi xfering over sshfs is murdering my battery Nov 06 09:11:28 so don't do it Nov 06 09:12:11 he has to because he doesn't want to ruin his USB socket Nov 06 09:12:26 you may as well leave it on permanent charge anyway Nov 06 09:16:44 lol Nov 06 09:17:14 i am going to get a hol of a duracell mygrid microusb power clip and see how it fits on the phone Nov 06 09:17:26 i think it will obstruct the cam Nov 06 09:18:04 i am xfering 20GB of music to the internal storage over wifi Nov 06 09:18:09 using sshfs Nov 06 09:18:15 weeeeeee! lol Nov 06 09:18:45 been there, done that. The whole device heated up for a fair while during transfers Nov 06 09:20:59 * ShadowJK is out wandering in the woods, with N810 and maemo-mapper Nov 06 09:21:38 * ShadowJK wishes gps drifted less than 1m in half an hour Nov 06 09:22:35 ShadowJK: it is possible to install debian on the n810 on an SD right? Nov 06 09:23:16 I don't think debian has "native" N810 sxupport Nov 06 09:23:36 hm Nov 06 09:23:40 i was hoping to do it without a chroot Nov 06 09:23:56 i want to use my n810 as a server Nov 06 09:23:57 :) Nov 06 09:55:18 ShadowJK: i will look into it after i get the SD adapter.. kind of sucks that i don't have one. i have no idea what i did with my micro sd to mini adapter... :/ Nov 06 09:55:54 but i want to have a synology box for storage and an n810 as a server for a handful of users... and low level stuff like irssi and named ... maybe even apache if it can handle it.. not sure how well the arm branches run Nov 06 10:12:29 Macer: synology has linux on it Nov 06 10:12:37 Macer: so you canhave irssi and apache there Nov 06 10:13:03 Every time I open the PowerVR blobs in IDA, I always end up realizing just how hard they are for me to even begin to understand Nov 06 10:14:22 same with pretty much all the other bits I want to reverse engineer Nov 06 10:17:17 I guess those are the joys of being a reverse engineer :) Nov 06 10:19:06 The lack of open PowerVR drivers is IMO the #1 problem in the mobile space right now Nov 06 10:22:51 I also seem to get the feeling that no-one cares about my work Nov 06 10:23:04 so I have less incentive to put the effort in if no-one is going to use the results Nov 06 10:23:36 open PowerVR drivers are on the FSF's high-priority list Nov 06 10:24:02 which means absolutely nothing in the real world Nov 06 10:24:04 unfortunately, GTA04 contains a PowerVR-based graphics driver Nov 06 10:24:16 as no-one is actually doing any WORK on opening them up Nov 06 10:24:37 Then it is that much more important that you do it Nov 06 10:24:52 If I had any of the needed skills, I would do it Nov 06 10:26:29 and if I had the money, I would buy the HexRays ARM decompiler Nov 06 10:26:45 and use that to blow some of these things right open Nov 06 10:27:42 sounds like you need to setup a site with donation link Nov 06 10:30:42 ouch, USD$2240 for base ARM decompiler from Hex-Rays Nov 06 10:30:46 yeah ough Nov 06 10:30:50 yeah 2240 Nov 06 10:30:55 plus a couple hundred for IDA Nov 06 10:31:04 about 2779 for the cheapest possible license Nov 06 10:31:30 I doubt a donation link could raise anywhere NEAR that much money Nov 06 10:31:59 well it might not but at least its probably better than nothing. Nov 06 10:32:35 pledgebank.com Nov 06 10:35:32 Doubt that could raise anywhere near enough money. Nov 06 10:35:55 pledgers have no risk Nov 06 10:45:27 decompiler isn't going to help you a lot Nov 06 10:45:45 if you want i can run some files trough it Nov 06 10:47:50 and besides, you can't buy it Nov 06 10:48:05 it's not released Nov 06 10:48:09 and abandoned Nov 06 10:48:25 only people that had x86 decompiler when they were trialing it have arm decompiler Nov 06 10:48:50 the HexRays site says the ARM decompiler is very much for sale Nov 06 10:48:57 if you have $2240 Nov 06 10:48:58 well, try ordering it Nov 06 10:49:49 If I had 2.7k I would try :P Nov 06 10:50:47 http://www.hex-rays.com/products/decompiler/news.shtml Nov 06 10:51:25 find the torrent Nov 06 10:51:27 lol Nov 06 10:51:43 Trust me, if there was a torrent out there, I would know about it Nov 06 10:51:48 i am still trying to find a way to install debian on the n810 without a chroot Nov 06 10:51:58 i know there has to be a way to do it.. mer was on its way Nov 06 10:52:09 lol Nov 06 10:52:14 jonwil: there is very specific reason why arm decompiler hasn't leaked yet Nov 06 10:52:25 jonwil: and you can get latest ida and latest x86 decompiler Nov 06 10:52:43 and that reason is? Nov 06 10:52:46 jacekowski: what is the reason? Nov 06 10:52:51 not many people have it Nov 06 10:53:07 heh Nov 06 10:55:49 wow Nov 06 10:55:56 that arm decompiler looks awesome Nov 06 10:56:03 did you see how it converted the code ? Nov 06 10:56:47 that's after you do quite a lot of work with asm Nov 06 10:56:58 imagine what good could be done on the n900 with it Nov 06 10:57:02 lmao Nov 06 10:57:20 download ida with x86 disasm Nov 06 10:57:52 and see what sort of results you get Nov 06 10:57:53 jonwil: code your own decompiler! lol Nov 06 10:58:13 it gets better every version Nov 06 10:58:35 but it still needs a lot of information to be provided by user to give nice results Nov 06 10:59:35 yeah... these examples they give are still impressive tho Nov 06 10:59:40 wow Nov 06 11:01:00 Anyone have some time to review my packages? http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1118751&postcount=4 Nov 06 11:01:06 Would be appreciated... Nov 06 11:03:08 $2240 Nov 06 11:03:29 how about we pool our money together and buy it for the n900 dev! Nov 06 11:03:31 lol Nov 06 11:03:53 i am curious... if you install it on a linux box won't multiple users have access to it? Nov 06 11:04:07 or is the license not multi user? Nov 06 11:04:23 :) Nov 06 11:04:47 its not multiuser, that 2240$USD Nov 06 11:05:17 I iirc it costs $2000+USD per extra license which only covers one user increments Nov 06 11:07:00 can't you just set up a common user acct? :) Nov 06 11:07:03 on the linux box? Nov 06 11:07:12 that is technically "1 user" Nov 06 11:09:04 The license is "one human at a time" basically Nov 06 11:09:15 then time share it Nov 06 11:09:16 hahah Nov 06 11:09:41 and use it one at a time in a common user acct Nov 06 11:09:46 :) Nov 06 11:10:07 either way... honestly.. if someone from the community got a hold of it they would jut shove it somewhere where everybody and theri mother could access it anyways Nov 06 11:10:10 lmao Nov 06 11:10:32 I guarantee that if its leaked, the site I go for all my crap WILL have links Nov 06 11:10:40 Its where I found the latest x86 bits Nov 06 11:11:07 I just wish HexRays was better at C++ stuff (for another project I have) Nov 06 11:13:57 * jonwil must read the bluz source code Nov 06 11:14:12 Aparently the bluz source code contains some nice stuff about some of the DBUS calls I want to know more about Nov 06 11:14:14 heh Nov 06 11:14:29 well.. i'll keep an eye out for it ;) Nov 06 11:16:45 I'd be willing to contribute $10 to the purchase. Nov 06 11:17:00 But - i have doubts you'd find another 270 peeps. Nov 06 11:18:34 some may donate more, some may donate less Nov 06 11:18:53 the bottom line is that even with little donations its better than forking out the full price yourself Nov 06 11:19:19 Well - yes Nov 06 11:23:43 ok, I am seeking to submit a fix to openvpn for maemo Nov 06 11:27:54 I can think of about 1/2 dozen binaries I would love to run through ARM HexRays :P Nov 06 11:32:29 is something wrong with openvpn for maemo? Nov 06 11:32:43 * ShadowJK has been using it since getting his N900 Nov 06 11:34:10 ShadowJK, I think it overwrites entries in /etc/resolv.conf Nov 06 11:34:32 with what... Nov 06 11:35:27 my resolv.conf still says "nameserver 127.0.1.1" Nov 06 11:36:14 I'm using fully static setup, the simple static example from openvpn"s homepage Nov 06 11:36:49 i still use pptp lol Nov 06 11:37:42 My #1 and #2 items for running through HexRays would be libconnui.so.0 and libconnui_cell.so.0 with libsrv_um.so and libpvr2d.so being #3 and #4 :) Nov 06 11:38:46 with nothing, it creates an empty /etc/resolv.conf file afaik. Though if you edit the nameservers for a conf file before hand (I can't remember exactly) it will append those entries in Nov 06 11:44:08 blah Nov 06 11:44:25 still xfering over sshfs over wifi Nov 06 11:45:26 * ShadowJK doesn't use the openvpn applet btw, and also doesn't use dhcp over openvpn Nov 06 12:01:41 ooh neat, some of the CSD dbus interfaces support dbus introspection Nov 06 12:05:41 jonwil: I extgracted a few interfaces: http://hssl.cs.jhu.edu/~neal/woodchuck/src/branches/master/#files:src Nov 06 12:06:51 nothing there I dont already have Nov 06 12:07:01 I have Phone.Net already Nov 06 12:07:21 and the DSME and ICD and MCE stuff Nov 06 12:10:02 The interfaces that I dont have and want would be /com/nokia/phone/SIM for one Nov 06 12:10:09 which I dont have Nov 06 12:10:15 and that one doesnt support introspection Nov 06 12:16:06 Oops. A bit of research reinforced my fear here: if you've got a device that's part of a RAID group or, like in this case, assigned as a JBOD disk, the Areca controller won't let you run a SMART test on it. This is really unreasonable behavior for a disk controller aimed at enterprise use. Nov 06 12:16:23 (facepalm) Nov 06 12:19:35 jonwil: :) Nov 06 12:20:08 hello,Macer Nov 06 12:22:22 hello Nov 06 12:23:06 The controller is probably doing Smart itself. Nov 06 12:23:12 And aggregating them. Nov 06 12:23:14 But... Nov 06 12:29:11 that was from a blog Nov 06 12:29:37 i just had my raid hiccup... no errors detected by the linux driver tho Nov 06 12:30:08 i cant wait to get my synology lol Nov 06 12:30:30 i need to quit using that thing anyways. Nov 06 12:30:32 jonwil: I also have com.nokia.csd.GPRS.Context.xml, com.nokia.csd.GPRS.xml, com.nokia.Phone.SSC.xml and Phone.Net.xml Nov 06 12:30:35 jonwil: FWIW Nov 06 12:31:34 I have phone.net already, and all the GPRS stuff Nov 06 12:31:55 what pkg extends the time the backlight stays on? Nov 06 12:31:56 Any experience with GTD (getting things done) on n900? Nov 06 12:34:02 phone.ssc on the other hand I cold use Nov 06 12:34:04 could use Nov 06 12:34:17 klingon fonts? Nov 06 12:34:19 point it my way please Nov 06 12:34:24 seriously Nov 06 12:36:22 neal: if you have phone.ssc, I am interested :) Nov 06 12:37:46 jacekowski, you still here? Nov 06 12:40:57 urgh, emmc might be dying in my n900 :/ Nov 06 12:41:11 :/ Nov 06 12:41:58 haha Nov 06 12:42:07 wow really? Nov 06 12:42:28 run fsck :) Nov 06 12:42:55 [110185.748168] mmcblk1: error 1 sending read/write command, response 0x0, card status 0x900 Nov 06 12:43:03 no fsck will really mess it up Nov 06 12:43:09 flash is bad like that Nov 06 12:43:30 i was joking Nov 06 12:43:47 is there an easy way to mark the bad addresses? Nov 06 12:44:02 There are no bad addresses. Nov 06 12:44:09 Well - there are. Nov 06 12:44:28 But the block addresses do not map uniquely to internal blocks. Nov 06 12:44:43 It's the result of the internal block allocation failing due to bad blocks that you're seeing. Nov 06 12:45:34 It may be that due to the wear leveling algorithm you may find that the errors are oving around in a 130M block, and eliminating that block from usage makes it work Nov 06 12:49:11 did you also get a "Maemo 5 secoruity update" on your n900 ? Nov 06 12:49:17 security* Nov 06 12:49:28 xkr47: diginotar-- Nov 06 12:51:48 * ShadowJK wonders what error 1 response 0 status 0x900 means Nov 06 12:57:17 SpeedEvil, ok thx Nov 06 12:57:34 * SpeedEvil points ShadowJK to the mmc spec Nov 06 12:57:54 IIRC there are no 'useful' codes Nov 06 12:58:09 That is - that'll tell you the device is coming tot he end of its life. Nov 06 13:01:16 SMART Nov 06 13:32:12 bah, the people I wanted to talk to are not around :( Nov 06 14:10:55 hm, I can read back the entire partition Nov 06 14:12:20 xkr47: see topic Nov 06 14:35:10 as a newbie, what does ccsu stand for? community*? Nov 06 14:35:33 s/ccsu/cssu/ Nov 06 14:35:35 aholler meant: as a newbie, what does cssu stand for? community*? Nov 06 14:42:50 DocScrutinizer: hi Nov 06 14:43:06 I can I commit a fix to openvpn maemo ? Nov 06 14:43:21 the script used to add the dns is wrong Nov 06 14:44:33 ~SSU Nov 06 14:44:33 i heard ssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/SSU Nov 06 14:46:03 where is mohammad? Nov 06 14:46:22 DocScrutinizer: thanks Nov 06 14:46:30 http://wiki.maemo.org/CSSU Nov 06 14:48:03 MohammadAG: where are you? ^^^ Nov 06 14:48:31 cityLights: does it matter where MohammadAG is? Nov 06 14:52:56 wanted to know if he got his n950? Nov 06 14:53:09 also maybe he can help me commit the openvpn fix Nov 06 15:32:29 ~seen javispedro Nov 06 15:32:33 javispedro <~javier@Maemo/community/contributor/javispedro> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 8d 16h 26m 23s ago, saying: 'nah nah nah nah..'. Nov 06 15:32:53 o.O Nov 06 15:37:40 O.O Nov 06 18:08:57 hi khertan Nov 06 18:09:23 can any one pls help me fix a small bug in openvpn? Nov 06 18:09:38 the maemo-resolv script is wrong Nov 06 18:09:46 how can I submit a fix? Nov 06 18:43:59 is there a better e-mail client than modest for the n900? Nov 06 18:44:18 it's fine for most things, but the lack of search is annoying sometimes Nov 06 18:44:34 hard to find e-mail that's older than like a week Nov 06 18:44:45 * Sicelo uses mutt. there's a bunch of others, such as claws, etc Nov 06 18:45:28 that is an interesting idea. mutt does search? Nov 06 18:45:39 there's also alpine Nov 06 18:46:00 wouldn't mind cli if it had more features and was faster Nov 06 18:53:14 modest is a useless POC for a mailing client Nov 06 18:54:19 DocScrutinizer: That's harsh. Nov 06 18:55:01 I actually think a webmailer is not the worst idea for a mobile device like N900 Nov 06 18:55:32 DocScrutinizer: I think it is great that it is free software and unfortunate that no community developped around it. Nov 06 18:55:51 DocScrutinizer: It lacks some features, but I think the architecture is sound. Nov 06 18:56:00 maybe Nov 06 18:56:15 DocScrutinizer: As for a web mailer, I completely disagree: you can only use that if you are connected to the net. Nov 06 18:56:21 I wouldn't want to use it to do any serious mailing anyway Nov 06 18:56:34 DocScrutinizer: May be that is not the point. Nov 06 18:58:22 (only use it when connected) well, modest I can't use ever, for a lot of things Nov 06 19:29:51 is there a page listing all the OS options for n900? Nov 06 19:30:32 i'm specifically interested only in dists which can make calls and have cellular data support Nov 06 19:53:56 wiretapped, I doubt there is even a list for all the supported linux anyway. There's probably less than a handful that is known to be able to work with N900. If you want cellular data support and be able to make/receive phone calls, it would probably boil down to 3 OS that is currently capable of doing that Nov 06 19:58:37 maybe even two now that I checked one of the three OS that is capable of fulfilling two of your prerequisites Nov 06 20:13:37 <_rd> I would like to circumvent a navit shortcoming with two shellscripts, one to setup car and one to setup bike navigation. Nov 06 20:14:19 <_rd> I have the shell scripts in place, I just would need a nice way to integrated them into maemo5.... Nov 06 20:15:28 <_rd> ...either an entry in the settings would be nice or an entry in the panel (similar to the dual-gsm-3G switcher). Nov 06 20:15:49 <_rd> Does anybody know which way is easiest and where to start reading? Nov 06 20:27:45 hmhm, in the end, was there an “upgrade” for n810 people after diablo? Nov 06 20:36:46 psycho_oreos: so, which of the 3 of maemo5 fremantle, SHR, meegoCE, is it you tested? :-D Nov 06 20:40:29 _rd: iirc MohammadAG once built a generic app to add arbitrary cmdline execution button to system status "panel" Nov 06 20:41:26 <_rd> DocScrutinizer: thanks...I am sure, you do not remember the name, right? Nov 06 20:41:41 sth like `sytraybutton --icon foo.gif --cmd "/bin/sh -c myscript.sh" Nov 06 20:41:52 no idea about the name Nov 06 21:03:42 starting point: http://maemo.org/packages/view/example-status-applet/ Nov 06 21:27:02 psycho_oreos: so, which of the 3 of maemo5 fremantle, SHR, meegoCE, is it you tested? :-D <--- only maemo4 fremantle, I was about say ***droid but I'm sure that'll set you on fire ;) Nov 06 21:27:38 I didn't think about SHR being a potential candidate though Nov 06 21:29:31 well, seems I didn't think about nitdridiot ;-D Nov 06 21:31:09 hah, well that bumps up to the number of candidates that satisfies the user's requirements to four now Nov 06 21:31:30 s/maemo4/maemo5/ Nov 06 21:33:45 DocScrutinizer, seen my epic reply about why meego/harmattan needs a proper keyboard like N950? Nov 06 21:34:19 nope Nov 06 21:34:38 http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1119196&postcount=46 Nov 06 21:35:04 * psycho_oreos is probably going to get grilled/drilled for saying that ;) Nov 06 21:47:46 heh Nov 06 21:47:59 javispedro: HEY!!! Nov 06 21:48:24 hi Nov 06 21:48:44 [2011-11-06 16:32:18] javispedro <~javier@Maemo/community/contributor/javispedro> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 8d 16h 26m 23s ago, saying: 'nah nah nah nah..'. Nov 06 21:49:06 :-) Nov 06 21:49:13 impossible, I was here on wednesday Nov 06 21:49:37 http://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/%23harmattan.2011-11-02.log.html#t2011-11-02T00:59:28 Nov 06 21:49:39 javispedro: maybe you stayed quiet on infobot-monitored chan? Nov 06 21:49:43 ah Nov 06 21:50:36 javispedro: got the N9 for hostmode-hw surgery :-D Nov 06 21:55:25 hostmode-hw surgery? got any pics? Nov 06 22:00:38 i'm sad, the wayfinder map app is no longer supported, the maps are nearly 4 years old, and i can't get a trial or even pay for it :( Nov 06 22:01:16 had a look at sygic maps? Nov 06 22:01:32 i haven't.. is that in a repository? Nov 06 22:01:37 or is this for some other platform you're trying to hide? Nov 06 22:01:42 hmm it might be Nov 06 22:02:03 for some platform i'm trying to hide? what the hell? Nov 06 22:02:06 I think its in Ovi repository (aka, hidden) the maps need to be bought howerver Nov 06 22:02:12 s/howerver/however/ Nov 06 22:02:12 psycho_oreos meant: I think its in Ovi repository (aka, hidden) the maps need to be bought however Nov 06 22:02:43 AlmightyOatmeal, was being naive, I didn't know wayfinder map `app' was also for maemo5 Nov 06 22:03:02 i'm using diablo Nov 06 22:03:40 o.O maemo4? heh well I wouldn't know. sygic is available on fremantle (maemo5) however Nov 06 22:03:47 ah Nov 06 22:03:53 if i'm trying to build a project for maemo target (from qt sdk, qtcreator) i get "'class QList' has no member named 'reserve'" error Nov 06 22:04:09 i'm firing up my 810 now to see if sygic is there, maybe a little googling as well Nov 06 22:04:10 for simulator target build runs normally Nov 06 22:04:22 and building in scratchbox is also ok Nov 06 22:04:22 i don't suppose fremantle would work on the nokia n810 would it? Nov 06 22:04:31 but would get it work from qtcreator Nov 06 22:04:33 afaik no Nov 06 22:04:43 sadness Nov 06 22:04:49 something related here: http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/6jz3kXvHh553w3Wa0wpS Nov 06 22:05:03 iinm N8x0 has slightly different compared to N900 Nov 06 22:05:07 i.e. seems that include dir of my system qt (4.6.2) is messed up with qt for fremantle Nov 06 22:05:34 ah Nov 06 22:05:39 ugh.. slightly different CPU Nov 06 22:05:51 ok maybe not N810 Nov 06 22:07:17 * psycho_oreos would think on a different note that sygic may struggle to run on N8x0 even if its ported Nov 06 22:07:33 too bad its proprietary Nov 06 22:08:40 :( Nov 06 22:08:58 i guess i could contact wayfinder who was bought out by vodaphone and see if they would give me a license Nov 06 23:13:39 How do I open a PDF file in the N900 directory? Nov 06 23:13:57 just touch it... Nov 06 23:14:39 NIN102: it says no files or directories. Nov 06 23:15:06 NIN102: the file browser application says that or whatever its translation in English is. Nov 06 23:15:41 well, that's strange. Nov 06 23:15:58 NIN102: I mounted the phone via USB. Nov 06 23:16:14 NIN102: put a file on it and now sort of expect to be able to access that file on the phone. Nov 06 23:17:14 usually you shouldn't (be able to) use the intern storage or sd while having the N900 in mass-storage mode. Nov 06 23:18:35 Where is the N900 directory on the device? Nov 06 23:19:05 so unmount the phone from your PC, plug the usb cable out and try it again. Nov 06 23:19:39 The Directory for user data like music, video, documents, etc. is /home/user/MyDocs. Nov 06 23:20:27 NIN102: but when I mount it I don't see a MyDocs dir. Nov 06 23:20:51 so how did you touch it then...? Nov 06 23:21:03 NIN102: I didn't touch it. Nov 06 23:21:19 NIN102: I have it mounted in front of me on my screen. Nov 06 23:22:06 so the file manager on your PC says "no such file or directory" or something similiar, right? Nov 06 23:22:42 NIN102: no Nov 06 23:22:56 NIN102: on my PC it is clearly visible. Nov 06 23:23:19 NIN102: I see subdirs like Mac OS and tmp and DCIM. Nov 06 23:24:42 If they had just put a README document there telling where this directory is one the device, that would have been easy. Nov 06 23:24:51 on* Nov 06 23:25:16 it's MyDocs Nov 06 23:25:42 and it's unmounted on device as long as you have mass storage mode started Nov 06 23:26:40 /home/user/MyDocs is called "Nokia N900" in hildon file manager Nov 06 23:32:30 also MyDocs contains .documents .videos and similar that correspond to the "Documents" folder in filemanager Nov 06 23:38:46 jacekowski: ping Nov 06 23:38:50 neal: ping Nov 06 23:42:21 jonwil: What's up? Nov 06 23:42:41 Did you say you have some dbus stuff for phone.ssc? Nov 06 23:42:44 or whatever it is? Nov 06 23:42:49 I am interested in that if you do Nov 06 23:43:47 I looked, it only has a single definition Nov 06 23:43:54 i.e., is less complete than I thought Nov 06 23:44:02 which one does it have? Nov 06 23:44:31 http://paste.debian.net/143370/ Nov 06 23:45:11 you should run dbus-monitor in a screen session and just let it collect data for a few weeks Nov 06 23:45:15 that's what I did Nov 06 23:45:38 and I've gotten most of the interface definitions that I needed Nov 06 23:46:07 ok Nov 06 23:46:23 I already have get_modem_state :) Nov 07 01:34:23 anyone about that uses psx4m ? Nov 07 01:35:15 with the gui, is there a way to put rom/bin's into seperate folders ? i have to put them all into single the folder listed in settings for them to show Nov 07 01:35:31 pain with a game thats dumped into like 40 .bin files Nov 07 01:38:01 hmmm looks like might nto be possible > http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=960475&postcount=434 Nov 07 01:38:03 "there is no option to select Game Image, Only option to select where psx4m-gui should try to find games (doesn't support subdirectories) Nov 07 01:38:03 tap title -> GUI config -> Rom directory Nov 07 02:06:38 hm Nov 07 02:06:42 hm Nov 07 02:07:05 one of my n900 batteries is only etting 98% charge Nov 07 02:07:25 getting Nov 07 02:07:33 i need an actual charger Nov 07 02:08:13 It's getting a "full" charge. What percent it says doesn't matter Nov 07 02:13:46 i guess Nov 07 02:14:03 i still want the charger and spare batteries Nov 07 02:19:20 http://www.ebay.com/itm/M4Z-1320mAh-Battery-Charger-Nokia-BL-5J-N900-X6-C3-/150646582556?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item23133c6d1c Nov 07 02:19:34 wonder if that will work Nov 07 02:47:04 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Battery-Charger-4-Nokia-5800-5800XM-BL5J-5230-N900-7500-/260616874186?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cadf9e8ca I have ne of these Nov 07 02:47:31 Takes a while to charge, has a red/blue charge indicator Nov 07 02:47:51 Likely isn't great for the battery, but hasn't caused me any trouble so far **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Nov 07 02:59:57 2011