**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Dec 01 02:59:58 2011 Dec 01 03:00:17 unlikely to happen :P Dec 01 03:00:24 I think neal would be interested about cell tower info Dec 01 03:00:50 jonwil: actually pretty easy Dec 01 03:00:54 ( Given that my phone will switch towers even when its plugged in and charging and not moving, using cell tower ID for any kind of location information is totally pointless) No it's not, as it is even more specific on Ur position when switching - U have to be on the borderline Dec 01 03:01:08 jonwil: EMPs wipe out any tech within line of sight. Sats are within a lot of areas line of sight Dec 01 03:01:10 whatever Dec 01 03:01:20 in case I dont care about location stuff other than GPS Dec 01 03:01:23 gimme 60s to find the link Dec 01 03:01:34 anyone else who wants to play with that stuff feel free Dec 01 03:01:50 and yes I am sure there are dbus calls you can make to get the cell ID Dec 01 03:02:01 http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-June/002987.html Dec 01 03:02:07 enjoy!!! Dec 01 03:02:21 you won't get beter info Dec 01 03:03:07 I just use connui_cell_net_status_register from libconnui_cell to get the info my plugin needs Dec 01 03:03:21 hence my libconnui-dev package :) Dec 01 03:03:37 >can you naame them today?< Dec 01 03:04:06 damn you usps where is my n900? Dec 01 03:04:17 naaaaaaaaaaame thm today Dec 01 03:04:32 "Processed Through Sort Facility" at november 16th, so where is it now? Dec 01 03:05:19 merlin1991, you have multiple n900s? Dec 01 03:05:56 moo Dec 01 03:06:02 I bought a 2nd one so I can run cssu testing and stable side by side Dec 01 03:06:13 but apparentlys usps wants to deny my the 2nd one Dec 01 03:06:26 s/my/me/ Dec 01 03:06:27 merlin1991 meant: but apparentlys usps wants to deny me the 2nd one Dec 01 03:07:37 jonwil: hello again, anything I should do? Dec 01 03:08:02 not really Dec 01 03:08:06 if its installed fine, it should be good Dec 01 03:08:08 * arvut testsubject reporting for duty! Dec 01 03:08:17 oh well Dec 01 03:08:19 it all depends on whether your network sends cell broadcast SMS messages Dec 01 03:08:24 merlin1991: outbound or inbound? Dec 01 03:08:29 which is more likely on 2G Dec 01 03:08:47 sethstorm: parcel is supposed to go from usa -> austria Dec 01 03:08:51 I could try switching from gsm to 3g or to dual mode Dec 01 03:09:04 merlin1991: then I can see a good deal of problems Dec 01 03:09:34 never heard of our customs being like the ones from israel :D Dec 01 03:09:41 fsck me gently, starting an employment after 30 years freelancer eats my nerves Dec 01 03:09:46 I'm curious about the fAPN application tho. what exactly is it for? Dec 01 03:10:16 what's really odd is, that it's just been "processed through sorting facility" then nothing anymore Dec 01 03:11:07 neither entered austria customs, or went through us customs, simply nothing Dec 01 03:12:00 my eperience is that the USPS tracking system is pathetic and useless Dec 01 03:12:32 they're better at delivering it than tracking it Dec 01 03:13:10 this is gonna be funny on friday Dec 01 03:13:44 I'll go to my local post office and go like "uh I'm expecting this parcel from the us since over two weeks, I only got a tracking number from usps, you know anything?" :D Dec 01 03:19:51 where is the device lock password stored? (iirc its a DES encrypted file) I need to decrypt it as I've forgot the pw I set on day 1 of this phones life :) Dec 01 03:29:46 arvut > here's a script for john the ripper i found on google > http://bigbob.fun.free.fr/maemo/Nokia-N900-Security-Code-Recover Dec 01 03:29:56 looks like > /dev/mtd1 Dec 01 03:40:55 *sigh* at bug 12203 Dec 01 03:40:57 04Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12203 CSSU-testing makes downgrading to stock camera-ui extremely difficult Dec 01 03:42:37 arvut: HyperSnyper: since PR1.3 this has changed and all effort in vain Dec 01 03:46:12 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1129548#post1129548 Dec 01 04:14:34 I *could* give you a virgin CAL image that will reset lockcode to 12345, but I don't feel like doing that Dec 01 04:26:36 hi Dec 01 04:27:12 the lowest option for scanning for connections in settings->internet options is 5 mins Dec 01 04:27:26 is there a way to set it to 10 secs from the shell? Dec 01 04:28:56 looking for a terminal for maemo 2006 .. the maemo.org link is broken. Dec 01 04:32:44 dangergrrl: a single scan will take longer than 10s Dec 01 04:34:08 but I donno how to make WLAN never stop scanning - maybe it's not a good idea after all anyway, as WLAN scans cut thru your bat in no time Dec 01 04:35:46 dammit, world goes apeshit with screwed ideas Dec 01 04:36:31 priceless: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1130363&postcount=382 Dec 01 04:38:20 i would google for this but i have no idea how Dec 01 04:39:00 sigh, the germans are likely asleep :( Dec 01 04:39:23 dbus-monitor is your friend Dec 01 04:39:50 also gconftool -R / > before Dec 01 04:40:00 diff before after Dec 01 04:41:29 * DocAvalanche yawns Dec 01 04:50:54 What's an N770 worth these days? Dec 01 04:51:27 3.50? Dec 01 04:53:24 wait a little (2..7 years) and sell to collectors Dec 01 04:54:36 you already may get collectors' offers Dec 01 04:55:08 haha Dec 01 04:55:27 hell, new N810 are probably more expensive than new N900 (if you can find either) Dec 01 04:55:40 it is a shame. N770 and N8x0 were ahead of their time Dec 01 04:55:57 DocAvalanche: i need new tracks for my n810. it took a dive :( Dec 01 04:56:08 still works fine but the slider gets stuck Dec 01 04:56:24 hmm, can't be sth serous Dec 01 04:56:28 you have to force it up or move it around to get itto open Dec 01 04:56:41 disassemble, clean, oil Dec 01 04:56:43 i don't think it is either Dec 01 04:56:50 i don't think it is oil ;) Dec 01 04:56:57 but it does need a new track Dec 01 04:57:21 i might be able to repair the old one but i havent taken it apart yet Dec 01 04:57:55 slider mech for N900 is ~25 bucks - never seen any for 810 Dec 01 04:58:08 i looked Dec 01 04:58:15 they are impossible to find ;) Dec 01 04:58:23 best to get a broken n810 for parts Dec 01 04:58:30 thought as much Dec 01 04:58:34 that might actually be easier Dec 01 04:58:55 well, I'll keep my two Dec 01 04:59:13 both still fine Dec 01 05:00:08 one severely used but working, one *new* Dec 01 05:01:54 so new I hadn't a chance yet to realize it got diablo Dec 01 05:25:41 hahaha Dec 01 05:26:09 an n810 is great for carman :) Dec 01 05:26:23 i was going to just hook mine up to the car windpw Dec 01 05:26:26 window Dec 01 05:26:43 and have it give me o2 stats and stuff Dec 01 05:27:01 other than that i haven't used it in a very long time Dec 01 05:31:40 carman? Dec 01 05:31:52 I was idly wondering about porting carman to n900 Dec 01 05:55:25 :) Dec 01 05:55:32 battery eye is great Dec 01 05:55:52 although it doesn't understand that i have been swapping batteries Dec 01 05:56:09 damn tho... idling while i was asleep the n900 sips power Dec 01 05:56:30 and that is with wifi and IM still doing their thing.. as well as email polling every half hour Dec 01 06:21:51 Still able to reproduce #12318 - close button doesn't work now? Dec 01 06:26:06 *beep* Dec 01 06:30:28 so this a.out file. I should b able to run it without ssh'ing, right? I haven't locked down my phone and won't do it until its secure to do so (in other words: me having the pw) Dec 01 06:31:59 ssh button on dropdown menu might not be so good to have installed incase I lock down the device by accident (or worse, someone else finds my phone and does just that. Dec 01 06:32:02 ) Dec 01 06:33:01 if the a.out file is on the device then yes you won't need to SSH Dec 01 06:33:15 but otherwise you're being vague Dec 01 06:38:21 yeah, thats exactly what I meant.. curious though, is the a.out a binary executable? (no, haven't dl'd it yet) Dec 01 06:40:25 sorry if my questions are a bit obscure. got a major headache and sligh fever + insomniac tiredness so my head aint too clear atm =.= Dec 01 06:41:41 a.out is the default filename that is outputted when one uses things like gcc for instance. It can be a binary executable or it can be anything else.. remember you can rename a simple text file in a.out but that does not instantly render the file an executable binary. For that there's a tool called `file' which takes loads of guesswork out Dec 01 06:48:38 like 118 left before kdebase-meta is done installing :D Dec 01 06:50:01 help, I can't reflash rom, n900 has bricked... when I tried to reflash emmc, in the progress of copying emmc image into n900, the progress will stop at 'init 20%' Dec 01 06:50:14 What's wrong? what should I do now? Dec 01 06:51:07 try flashing combined first before eMMC, but make sure to never reboot in between that process Dec 01 06:51:31 psycho_oreos: oh! I've rebooted Dec 01 06:51:32 psycho_oreos: so this a.out file that will temper with or somehow reveal (not sure tbh) the device lock pw is what? Dec 01 06:51:44 What's going on?... Dec 01 06:52:37 arvut, oh you were following that thread by qwery12, never tried that program so I wouldn't know Dec 01 06:52:41 trying to recover lost pw for device lock, so that I (or some other fool) wont accidently (or on purpose) lock my phone Dec 01 06:53:19 LaoLang_cool, Generally if you flash combined first and eMMC second you should never have reboot flags set on Dec 01 06:53:21 heh ok, so a.out in this case is the gcc output as a binary executable then? Dec 01 06:53:29 yes Dec 01 06:53:35 cool Dec 01 06:53:38 well executable under ARM only Dec 01 06:53:56 psycho_oreos: yes, I've done something wrong :( Dec 01 06:54:09 * arvut ponders if the sourcecode is available somewhere =P Dec 01 06:54:29 It stopped at [init 20 % 32768 / 255947 kB 0 kB/s] Dec 01 06:54:31 LaoLang_cool, I don't really have much of a suggestion.. except to repeat the process again Dec 01 06:54:38 amazing music on ah.fm now, headache is slightly cured now :) Dec 01 06:54:48 arvut, I doubt it, qwerty12 hardly provides source codes on his work Dec 01 06:54:55 oh Dec 01 06:55:59 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/30/xen_kvm_hypervisor_for_arm_chips/ Dec 01 06:56:40 The symptom is like http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=78088, I'm reading it Dec 01 06:57:41 ruskie: not interesting :P Dec 01 06:58:41 oh, KVM too? Dec 01 06:58:48 missed that in the URI Dec 01 07:00:50 luke-jr, I'm not your father! Dec 01 08:24:40 a full reflash is what I must do. would a complete backup restore the device to its former state (but without the old device lockcode) after reflash (I know I have to dl all the apps again..) Dec 01 08:25:24 arvut, the lockcode remains the same Dec 01 08:25:36 arvut, there's some app that can help you reset it iirc Dec 01 08:40:50 ~flashing Dec 01 08:40:51 rumour has it, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Dec 01 08:42:16 Hi. I have a hildon-gtk-based application which uses hildon_notification_new() and notify_notification_set_hint_string() to produce a notification that will show as this yellow window in the background and lets the led blink. I want to port this application to QtMaemo5, but I have not found a way to achieve this. QMaemo5InformationBox() only does Hildon banners and notes. Any idea? Dec 01 08:45:27 mihu: you know Maemo is long dead, right? <.< Dec 01 08:46:11 luke-jr: Yes, but this is not the answer to my question. :-) Dec 01 08:47:04 k :P Dec 01 08:48:46 Ok, just to answer to myself: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=54815 suggests that this is not possible. Looking at http://vcs.maemo.org/svn/eve-watcher/trunk/poc/notification-example/qmaemo5notification.cpp it's obvious that the class is just a small wrapper around libnotify. There is a suggestion to achieve my goal mentioned in http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/How_to_show_notification_from_Qt_aplication_in_Maemo_5. Dec 01 09:51:22 Is there supposed to be anything in /root ond the n900? I have two rather large files, Packages and Packages.1 in there. Can't remember if I put them there or if they're supposed to be there. They contain stuff similar to what dpkg -L may list. Dec 01 09:52:00 I mean apt-cache show Dec 01 09:53:08 you cane remove those Dec 01 09:53:18 you most likely moved it or something Dec 01 09:53:35 see /var/lib/dpkg iirc Dec 01 09:53:41 should have Packages as well Dec 01 09:57:39 allright Dec 01 09:59:47 well damn, imagemagick isn't optified. Dec 01 10:21:31 bah how much space does CSSU need to install? I already freed up 57.4mb Dec 01 10:43:20 How do I backup the sent email from modest to my desktop? Dec 01 10:44:53 move it into the IMAP Sent folder :) Dec 01 10:51:42 hi, just wondering, but has the Maemo5 extras repository policy changed so that the "free" component also takes non-FLOSS packages ? Dec 01 10:52:48 I see at least one package there for which I was not able to find sources at all (the "source" package is just a wrapper to copy binaries), but I didn't look further to find other examples Dec 01 11:00:33 mgedmin: Hi, pleaze upgrade vim on n900 :) Dec 01 11:08:13 lizardo, I thought you specified what extras you wanted... free and/or non-free Dec 01 11:36:30 ruskie: yes, you can select the component, but looks like QA didn't check if the source package is actual source or just binaries. Anyway, I'm not sure if there is still community QA for Maemo 5 extras, of if currently it is only voting based. Also, the developer may had a mistake uploading to the wrong component Dec 01 12:21:01 DocScrutinizer51: modest does not only not crash on me no more it seems to be faster too Dec 01 12:27:38 I feel taken advantage of by the newest version of the QtTranslate app which shows ads. Is there a way to go back to the old version? I know how to pin, but where can I find an earlier version --are they also in the repositories, or do I need to find out where the previous .deb package is stored on my N900? I don't think the N900 stores .deb packages once they are already installed, right? Dec 01 12:30:26 ovi store or extras? Dec 01 12:31:25 http://maemo.org/packages/view/qtranslate/ Dec 01 12:31:58 http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras_free_armel/qtranslate/1.0.0/ Dec 01 12:34:38 kwtm: you can find .deb at /var/cache/apt/archive/, only if you install via apt-get Dec 01 12:35:15 Jaffa: Hi, pleaze upgrade vim on n900 :) Dec 01 12:35:23 LaoLang_cool: Thx! I'll see if I installed it via apt-get --I might have. auenf: extras, so I'll check there. Thx! Dec 01 12:35:50 LaoLang_cool: What version is vim on N900? I use Vim, too (my N900 is charging and I don't have it with me). Dec 01 12:36:25 kwtm: 7.2 Dec 01 12:39:07 kwtm, there seems to be a .deb of each version in extras Dec 01 12:40:03 auenf: Oh, good! I'm trying to look for the actual repository URL so I can point my browser at it and see if I can find something between the current version and v1.0 Dec 01 12:40:29 LaoLang_cool: Oh, 7.2 is what I've been using on my laptop, too. No wonder I don't feel like I'm missing anything. What's the diff between 7.2 and the latest? Dec 01 12:41:12 doesnt seem to be any version in extras/extras-devel between 1.0.0 and 1.0.3 Dec 01 12:42:58 auenf: Thx. Will get 1.0.0. Dumb ads. :P Dec 01 12:43:43 Wait, when I click on the link, it no longer exists. Will see if I can pin the version to 1.0.0 Dec 01 12:44:02 By "no longer exists" I mean I get a 404 error for http://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/fremantle/free/q/qtranslate/qtranslate_1.0.0_armel.deb Dec 01 12:44:55 Maybe merlin's repository has it. Dec 01 12:47:10 kwtm: many! for example, Persistent undo, More encryption, Conceal text, etc. Dec 01 12:48:16 darn. Even the merlin repository only has 1.0.3. Better start digging or maybe modify the source. Or I could just use the web site, but the N900 web browser is SOOOO slow ... Dec 01 12:48:38 LaoLang_cool: Wow. Will have to look into it. Dec 01 12:51:51 qtranslate 1.0.0 Fremantle Extras free armel Old version cleaned by repository management Dec 01 12:51:56 thats probably why its a 404 Dec 01 12:52:41 altho the source seems to be still there Dec 01 12:56:53 kwtm: yes, it's worth to try, more info can refer to http://ivanidris.net/wordpress/index.php/2010/08/22/vim-7-3-released Dec 01 12:59:53 Wow, persistent undo means I can read a file later and still have its undo history? That's great! (I thought "persistent undo" meant that if I undo something, it will stay undone --which is, of course, the way it is already.) Dec 01 13:07:40 kwtm: yes, so I think it's actually a majoy upgrade :) Dec 01 13:08:54 chem|st: (modest faster) expected, thumb is small but slow Dec 01 13:09:12 DocScrutinizer: thumb? Dec 01 13:09:40 modest is fater? than what? Dec 01 13:09:48 s/fater/faster/ Dec 01 13:09:49 LaoLang_cool meant: modest is faster? than what? Dec 01 13:09:51 alternative 16bit opcodes for arm Dec 01 13:10:34 LaoLang_cool: CSSU testing modest "now" is slightly faster than "before" Dec 01 13:10:49 chem|st: got it Dec 01 13:11:23 I've tried with CSSU yesterday, but think that the offical release is enough for me :) Dec 01 13:12:04 on pc, I use fetchmail + procmail + mutt, it's missing on n900 though Dec 01 13:12:46 LaoLang_cool: there is ssh... Dec 01 13:13:06 my primary client is mutt... anywhere Dec 01 13:13:41 translates to "gimme ssh and I am online just enough" Dec 01 13:14:03 mutt irssi centerim.... love it Dec 01 13:14:26 but I am a freak... my netbooks windowmanager is ion... Dec 01 13:15:30 after reflashing, I rm -r * and .*, and restored old files/dirs of /home/user, not modest says Internal error. Application 'E-mail' closed Dec 01 13:15:33 What's wrong? Dec 01 13:15:47 s/not/now/ Dec 01 13:16:49 LaoLang_cool: woldrich in #vim says he's using 7.3 on his n900. Dec 01 13:17:14 after reflashing, I rm -r * and .*, and restored old files/dirs of /home/user, now modest says: " nternal error. Application 'E-mail' closed" Dec 01 13:17:22 I don't know what's wrong Dec 01 13:17:54 kwtm: wow, good, don't know if he could provide .deb Dec 01 13:22:37 Which files/dirs store the sms database? Dec 01 13:24:12 And which files/dirs store the calendar database? Dec 01 13:24:44 And tasks, contacts Dec 01 13:25:05 I don't know where to find them Dec 01 13:28:38 LaoLang_cool, try ~/.osso-something or other Dec 01 13:28:45 I don't recall atm Dec 01 13:29:05 ruskie: thanks, will try Dec 01 13:29:21 I know contacts would probably be ~/.osso-abook Dec 01 13:30:14 ~/.calendar Dec 01 13:31:10 ruskie: after renamed .osso-abook, contacts still works fine Dec 01 13:31:17 .rtcomm-* Dec 01 13:31:52 I think that about covers it Dec 01 13:33:07 LaoLang_cool, well you would need to kill the app as well Dec 01 13:33:09 not just close it Dec 01 13:33:14 iirc it runs in the background Dec 01 13:33:39 ruskie: how to rerun it? Dec 01 13:33:48 ok, I reboot n900 to check... Dec 01 13:36:36 LaoLang_cool: When I asked woldrich about it, he just said enable all repositories (except testing). Dec 01 13:44:21 kwtm: but at the site http://maemo.org/packages/view/vim/, it shows that the latest version is 7.2 Dec 01 14:03:00 ruskie: thanks :) sms: .rtcom-eventlogger/, Contacts: .osso-abook/, calendar: .calendar/ Dec 01 14:03:21 hehe Dec 01 14:55:13 http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2011/11/30/phone-rootkit-carrier-iq-may-have-violated-wiretap-law-in-millions-of-cases/ Dec 01 15:02:05 Oops. Dec 01 15:06:38 * merlin1991 is going to flash emmc for the first time Dec 01 15:15:29 fu austrian postal service Dec 01 15:16:06 guess what, customs decided the n900 I got needs more customs paid, therefore postal serverices lemme pay another 12€ for taking care of the process Dec 01 15:34:12 merlin1991: bastards. Dec 01 15:35:39 merlin1991: who are you? I have never seen you before then you suddenly pop up and you are a cssu stable big cheese. Dec 01 15:36:55 has anyone who has done the 720p recording/playback thing noticed a dramatic increase in cpu power required for mafw. Dec 01 15:37:23 i.e. the mafw-dbus-wrapper process is taking ~50% moar cpu. Dec 01 15:41:08 vi_____ I've been with cssu from the early beginng, though I was most active on #maemo-ssu helping trillions of people who had modified-hildon-desktop installed :D Dec 01 15:41:55 in march I started the wiki changelog and now stable :D Dec 01 15:42:34 I don't remember though when I got the cssu cloak here on freenode Dec 01 15:43:29 could someone md5sum the emmc image? Dec 01 15:43:37 I'm not sure my dl went through fine Dec 01 15:43:53 ah wait nvm found the sums file Dec 01 15:45:13 vi_____: I guess I wasn't that visible because I never posted on tmo Dec 01 16:40:05 DocScrutinizer: Dec 01 16:40:10 DocScrutinizer: ping Dec 01 16:43:12 Anyone: Ping Dec 01 16:43:37 Why am I not allowed to echo values to fmtx power level in /sys? Dec 01 16:57:47 Hello all Dec 01 16:58:54 the lowest option for scanning for connections in settings->internet options is 5 mins Dec 01 16:58:58 is there a way to set it to 10 secs from the shell? Dec 01 17:08:06 hi Dec 01 17:12:14 dangergrrl: gconftool -R /system/osso/connectivity|less "+/interval" Dec 01 17:12:40 thanks, DocScrutinizer, i guessed you would know Dec 01 17:12:46 is that in seconds? Dec 01 17:12:58 seems so Dec 01 17:13:21 I didn't know, I just searched for it Dec 01 17:13:38 oh, i could not think of a good google string for it Dec 01 17:13:51 haha, not via google Dec 01 17:14:14 dangergrrl: via gconftool -R /|less Dec 01 17:14:48 aha i didn't know that one Dec 01 17:15:26 the usb plug on mine is going out, i have to prop the data cable against things to make it work Dec 01 17:36:59 Is there a build of firefox for maemo maintained somewhere? Dec 01 17:37:10 s/firefox/fennec/ Dec 01 17:37:12 tzafrir meant: Is there a build of fennec for maemo maintained somewhere? Dec 01 17:45:49 anyone how can i send a pvt message Dec 01 17:47:43 what is dcc chat Dec 01 17:48:02 use /msg to send someone a private message Dec 01 17:48:16 note that doing so without good reason is annoying Dec 01 17:48:22 ok Dec 01 17:48:55 i am currently chatting from My N900.there is no option like that Dec 01 17:49:19 the /msg command is something you enter where you normally type text Dec 01 17:49:46 ok Dec 01 17:50:06 thank you Dec 01 17:50:50 and what is the command to set a password to my nick Dec 01 17:51:05 you will need to inquire with nickserv Dec 01 17:51:16 you can send it "help" and it will show you how Dec 01 17:51:27 ok.thank you Dec 01 17:51:39 help Dec 01 17:51:46 heh Dec 01 17:51:54 no, you will need to do: /msg nickserv help Dec 01 17:52:03 lol Dec 01 17:52:06 i will Dec 01 17:56:49 register luVusahilU1416@*s udaygandavarapu@gmail.com Dec 01 17:56:59 :/ Dec 01 17:57:07 you forgot the /msg nickserv Dec 01 17:57:19 ok Dec 01 18:07:33 im such a dumbass Dec 01 18:07:39 lol Dec 01 19:12:42 tzafrir: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mobile/releases/7.0.1/maemo5-gtk/en-US/ Dec 01 19:13:51 Sicelo, right. And that was the last one Dec 01 19:22:32 wmarone: you maybe should've told him about /query Dec 01 19:33:50 what's the difference, if any, between gconftool and gconftool-2? Dec 01 19:35:42 hmm, ls -al gave me the answer. it is just one tool, at least for maemo Dec 01 21:13:08 Hi! When I plugin my N900 to my USB Port, I only can access 8 GB of memory. How can I repartition it from my linux box? Dec 01 21:16:10 only 8gb? are you sure it's an n900? :D Dec 01 21:16:13 … Dec 01 21:16:21 N900 only has 256 MB of memory. Dec 01 21:16:27 maybe you mean disk spac.e Dec 01 21:16:42 come on luke-jr stop nitpicking :D Dec 01 21:21:33 merlin1991: yes I am sure Dec 01 21:21:55 I'm also havbing issues updating some of the catalogues... Dec 01 21:22:32 you should have around 27GB of disk space avaiable from your pc Dec 01 21:22:42 did you get the phone like this? Dec 01 21:23:46 well - irt is a phone which a friend was using - he was playing around a lot. Dec 01 21:23:53 if you just got the phone newly and would like to bring it into proper state flashing emmc and rootfs would be the way to go Dec 01 21:24:01 that should give you a clean start Dec 01 21:24:11 I'd like to get the n900 to the factory settings. Dec 01 21:24:22 I already flashed the combined image. Dec 01 21:24:22 then flash emmc and rootfs Dec 01 21:24:25 ~flasihng Dec 01 21:24:28 ~flashing Dec 01 21:24:28 i guess maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Dec 01 21:24:30 df -h for now. we're curious to know what's up Dec 01 21:24:39 Sicelo: I bet on nitroid Dec 01 21:25:02 heh :P Dec 01 21:25:08 fosstux: especially section http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#Flashing_the_eMMC_in_the_N900 is interesting for you Dec 01 21:25:25 that should bring your partition tabels back into order Dec 01 21:25:31 you do have to reflash rootfs though todo that Dec 01 21:25:48 but then you should have a device just like new Dec 01 21:29:29 ~lockcode Dec 01 21:29:30 it has been said that lockcode is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=524522#post524522 Dec 01 21:30:48 df -h says: /dev/mmcblk0p2 - 2 GB size, /dev/mmcblk0p1 - 8GB size Dec 01 21:31:52 fosstux: and fdisk -l Dec 01 21:31:55 (as root) Dec 01 21:34:53 fdisk: command not found Dec 01 21:34:59 do you mean sfdisk? Dec 01 21:35:29 apparently Dec 01 21:35:32 ok - got it Dec 01 21:35:44 seems like my busybox comes with a symlink somehow Dec 01 21:36:05 (I got busybox power) it contains fdisk Dec 01 21:36:51 fosstux: if that table shows you all kinds of fud partitions you're better of completely reflashing (emmc and combined) Dec 01 21:40:02 mmcblk0p1: fat 32, 8GB; mmcblk0p2: linux 2GB, mmcblk0p3: swap,768MB; mmcblk0p4: linux, 19GB Dec 01 21:43:45 i want to shrink MyDocs actually, possibly without a reflash Dec 01 21:47:52 where can I download the fiasco rootfs image? Dec 01 21:48:04 ~flash Dec 01 21:48:05 well, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Dec 01 21:48:09 Or is it enough to flash the emmc and then the combined? Dec 01 21:48:34 sorry, I wa blind Dec 01 21:49:59 What is the current state of Office suites on maemo? what should i use to edit a spreadsheet (ODS preferably)? Dec 01 21:50:38 i tried freoffice but it has rough edges (kb focus issues) and seems abandonned Dec 01 21:50:57 gnumeric? Dec 01 21:52:48 i'll have a look. is that adapted for maemo or just plain gnumeric? Dec 01 21:53:20 kinda adapted Dec 01 21:54:47 does it do ods? Dec 01 21:55:25 also, what is miniGnumeric? Dec 01 22:02:04 So I'm trying to flash the emmc using this command: ./flasher-3.5 -F RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin -f Dec 01 22:02:28 good for you Dec 01 22:02:33 All I'm getting is Error claiming USB interface: Device or resource busy Dec 01 22:03:02 is anything else running on the usb device? Dec 01 22:05:07 yes BCMM_. it does ODS. i don't know about miniGnumeric, but Gnumeric has served my needs well so far. can also read/write xlsx if u need compatibility with M$ Dec 01 22:05:11 fosstux: are you root? Dec 01 22:06:10 Sicelo: thanks Dec 01 22:09:29 totalizator: yes Dec 01 22:10:50 fosstux: then try some livecd distro; I had to use one as the flasher won't work with Arch Linux Dec 01 22:13:08 n900 is switched off fosstux? Dec 01 22:14:48 yes Dec 01 22:15:14 I've burned the gparted live cd - will this work as well? Dec 01 22:15:28 i doubt. Dec 01 22:15:35 what os u on right now? Dec 01 22:15:46 Fedora 16, 64bit Dec 01 22:16:32 get a debian based live distro, eg knoppix, ubuntu, etc u don't need anything fancy Dec 01 22:19:22 or use rescuecd Dec 01 22:19:29 based on gentoo Dec 01 22:19:52 BCMM_: hey Dec 01 22:19:56 long time no see Dec 01 22:21:33 fosstux: you can try the gparted livecd, why not? Dec 01 22:32:46 Ìû Dec 01 22:36:09 ZogG: good day Dec 01 22:38:08 BCMM_: how are you? Dec 01 22:38:56 i'm ok Dec 01 23:21:38 Hmm Dec 01 23:21:47 I think I'm putting my n900 to the limit here... Dec 01 23:21:54 I'm running rlvm on it Dec 01 23:22:05 and playing a Visual Novel designed for desktops Dec 01 23:22:30 Well the sound works smoothly atleast :D Dec 01 23:30:49 rlvm? Dec 01 23:45:35 It's a linux implementation of key's visual novel engine Dec 01 23:46:12 MrOpposite: pfft, that's nothing Dec 01 23:46:25 MrOpposite: I'm running Gentoo in a chroot, compiling KDE on my N900 Dec 01 23:46:40 heh, cool Dec 01 23:46:55 Will kde run smooth? Dec 01 23:47:24 will it ever finish building? :-P Dec 01 23:47:30 MrOpposite: probably better than Maemo Dec 01 23:47:33 DocScrutinizer: yes Dec 01 23:47:46 DocScrutinizer: now qt-webkit, not so sure… I linked it on my desktop in qemu <.< Dec 01 23:48:02 that monster requires at least 300 MB RAM to link Dec 01 23:48:11 haha Dec 01 23:48:15 hehe Dec 01 23:48:20 swap hell Dec 01 23:48:32 srsly Dec 01 23:48:53 I just want som goddamn ingame footage... Dec 01 23:49:04 but it takes forever to get past the white intro screen... Dec 01 23:49:18 I think I've been stuck on it for like 50 minutes now Dec 01 23:49:39 http://luke.dashjr.org/programs/gentoo-n900/packages/hardfp/gcc45/kde-base/ Dec 01 23:49:47 ^ ingame footage of KDE/Gentoo/N900 Dec 01 23:49:48 It would've been okay if it didn't need user interaction Dec 01 23:50:02 MrOpposite: you should get Steins;Gate to run Dec 01 23:50:10 I watched the anime Dec 01 23:50:12 But yea Dec 01 23:50:19 I should play the VN too Dec 01 23:50:39 well, swap hell is nothing unique to N900 - I several time brought my 300MHz P-II with 496MB RAM to a grinding halt, by simply opening some 50MB file in a text editor accidentally Dec 01 23:51:18 not even doing this idiocy as normal user will help to keep the system responsive Dec 01 23:51:36 change editor ;) Dec 01 23:51:40 sure Dec 01 23:51:50 was some crapy Qt-based editor Dec 01 23:52:07 where each char is a rich text object X-P Dec 01 23:52:49 I GOT PAST THE WHITE INTRO! Dec 01 23:52:50 Qobject QtTextEdit("richtext",...) Dec 01 23:52:51 Sorry for yelling Dec 01 23:52:56 But I'm so happy right now Dec 01 23:54:06 ... Dec 01 23:54:16 Now I'm stuck at the second part of the intro Dec 01 23:54:21 the BLACK intro-screen! Dec 01 23:54:44 the memory needed by QtTextEdit is ~15 times the char count of the text to edit, and the really funny bit: on closing the amount doubles Dec 01 23:54:56 to ~30 times Dec 01 23:55:04 That seems like bad coding to me... Dec 01 23:55:10 sure it is Dec 01 23:55:26 the above applies to Qt3 though Dec 01 23:55:35 Okay Dec 02 02:01:56 [ 37%] Building CXX object kdeui/CMakeFiles/kdeui.dir/widgets/kvbox.o Dec 02 02:02:36 gotta love cmake Dec 02 02:02:48 tells you right in your face that there are still 5 hrs of compiletime to go **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Dec 02 02:59:57 2011