**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Dec 23 02:59:56 2011 Dec 23 03:29:26 Hey, can someone help me configure the power button to automatically do "secure device", rather than bring up the menu? Dec 23 03:29:41 or guide me to some app that can accomplish this? Dec 23 03:30:11 why couldn't you simply press the power button twice? that already does turn off the screen Dec 23 03:30:28 cause i want it to ask for the password, not just blank. Dec 23 03:30:39 and secure device does not effectively mean `secure device' it just simply locks the screen with a slider Dec 23 03:30:40 otherwise i could just use the rocker Dec 23 03:30:58 it makes it ask for the password for me? Dec 23 03:31:05 well over time it may go into the proper `enter lock code' Dec 23 03:31:08 weird Dec 23 03:31:30 as soon as i click secure device.. the password thing pops up, then it blanks like a second later Dec 23 03:31:58 generally i been doing power button - secure device - push rocker(to blank screen) Dec 23 03:32:13 i want it to just be power button .. done Dec 23 03:33:19 I've stopped using that switch, because I have otterbox commuter case, its awkward to not be able to use nails to flick the switch. Anyhow, no I have no idea and again in my case I could not get it to show up the area for one to enter lock code Dec 23 03:33:51 i have the otterbox case too, i dont use it though aha. adds too much bulk Dec 23 03:34:19 *shrugs at the extra bulk* at least it does the job in protecting :) Dec 23 03:35:00 yeah Dec 23 03:35:23 i wanna switch from blackberry to maemo, but i cant use it without a quick way to lock the device Dec 23 03:35:58 on blackberry it locks on holster adding, or by pressing "k" key. Dec 23 03:37:24 I know there is a file that handles the power key menu, but I'm uncertain if one goes and say comments all the un-necessary fields except for lock screen option, would it be able for the device to simply lock screen should there be only one choice Dec 23 03:38:20 can you add to locker perhaps? Dec 23 03:38:47 that I'm not sure Dec 23 03:39:00 you can run blackberry on an n900? Dec 23 03:39:14 dangergrrl: :P, blackberry to n900 .. i have both phones Dec 23 03:39:18 I think you misread Dec 23 03:39:59 the n900 is a great handheld linux pc Dec 23 03:40:03 crappy phone Dec 23 03:40:13 love it Dec 23 03:40:28 i dont do much except call/txt a bit Dec 23 03:40:32 hence its called `internet tablet with phone functionality' Dec 23 03:40:50 well i love mine Dec 23 03:41:11 but i don't reccommend it much to others because of that Dec 23 03:41:23 unless they are linux hackers Dec 23 03:41:58 it also reduces it's theft value Dec 23 03:42:25 that nobody wants it? Dec 23 03:42:39 whats wrong with it? Its well built Dec 23 03:42:41 I'd do exactly that, I only recommend N900 to those whom will be willing to tinker rather than thinking they have a phone and expect it to run completely and flawlessly as a phone. Dec 23 03:42:42 that most people can't use it for what it is good at Dec 23 03:43:00 whats it good at? Dec 23 03:43:07 it is pretty robust Dec 23 03:43:16 i took it camping in the mountains Dec 23 03:43:20 have dropped it Dec 23 03:43:37 never tried n900fly to see how high i could throw it Dec 23 03:44:12 it is great at doing the things i expect from a linux pc with low ram Dec 23 03:44:53 any of you overclock your n900? Dec 23 03:44:57 i bet it would run settlers 2 in dosbox fine Dec 23 03:45:15 only if i have to Dec 23 03:45:54 when i first got it im like ahh its too expensive, i would hate it if it were to fail, now with the value drop so much, im wondering if its worth it Dec 23 03:45:58 i have video files that break without overclocking Dec 23 03:46:17 i want an n9 Dec 23 03:46:26 the pink ome with 64gb Dec 23 03:46:32 but i am poor Dec 23 03:46:54 I'd never want to throw my N900 let alone use N900fly as a way of seeing how far/high I can throw the device. I completely agree on the fact that its rather and expensive (and now somewhat rare) for one to have N900 let alone sourcing it Dec 23 03:47:01 it has enough ram Dec 23 03:47:39 i tossed it above a pillow because n900fly made me lmao Dec 23 03:47:42 its called magenta, and apparently according to tmo threads, there's no magenta 64GB apart from fake ones Dec 23 03:47:44 is meego/alternatives worth trying on n900? Dec 23 03:47:47 as a replacement? Dec 23 03:48:04 i know they call it magenta Dec 23 03:48:12 but it is pink Dec 23 03:49:24 the idea of throwing a $350 device as high as you can made me laugh Dec 23 03:49:34 so i had to try the program Dec 23 03:49:43 n900 is still $350? Dec 23 03:49:52 when i bought mine Dec 23 03:49:59 ah Dec 23 03:50:03 a year ago Dec 23 03:50:10 should have dropped now Dec 23 03:50:15 dunno if it has Dec 23 03:51:24 I think you'll find it hard to find a seller that would sell a genuinely brand spanking new N900 without charging you around that much... a few new N900 owners (on tmo) have described what is meant to be a refurbished N900 Dec 23 03:51:27 N(x) devices are rare in the us Dec 23 03:51:50 im in Toronto, Canada. Dec 23 03:51:57 id sell mine for $350 :P Dec 23 03:52:04 i would not Dec 23 03:52:16 why not? Dec 23 03:52:53 i was homeless with the n900 as my only computer Dec 23 03:53:21 it is a nice computer and i can carry it in my pocket Dec 23 03:53:28 zakkkmm, and mark your N900 as brand new? that's pretty sad :) Dec 23 03:53:48 I'm sure not many N900 sellers would sell that much anyway (in USD) Dec 23 03:54:00 like the ones found on tmo threads, even some of the ebay listings Dec 23 03:54:04 anything i can do about a badly scratched screen? Dec 23 03:54:07 I found a "new" one for $200 Dec 23 03:54:17 luke-jr!? still around Dec 23 03:54:22 ? Dec 23 03:54:31 long time :) Dec 23 03:54:34 :P Dec 23 03:55:07 dangergrrl, not really, though I saw a kit you could buy to polish the screen and *theoretically* mask the scratches up. Don't tell me you don't even have a screen cover for your N(00 Dec 23 03:55:12 s/N(00/N900/ Dec 23 03:55:13 psycho_oreos meant: dangergrrl, not really, though I saw a kit you could buy to polish the screen and *theoretically* mask the scratches up. Don't tell me you don't even have a screen cover for your N900 Dec 23 03:55:29 psycho_oreos: what would you need a screen cover for? Dec 23 03:55:41 I have no screen cover, I've dropped it a few times, and there's still no scratches on the screen Dec 23 03:56:03 is there no app/easy configuration for my secure device issue? Dec 23 03:56:06 luke-jr: me too Dec 23 03:56:09 i used a screen cover but it interfered with the touch screen Dec 23 03:56:37 luke-jr, for various things.. one good instance is putting N900 in the same pocket with keys for instance Dec 23 03:56:40 luke-jr, your the one that attempted the gentoo port right? Dec 23 03:56:44 back in the day Dec 23 03:56:48 ok, N900 is actually $200 + 45 minutes driving/gas Dec 23 03:56:54 zakkkmm: still working on it Dec 23 03:56:59 zakkkmm: this time on N900 Dec 23 03:57:05 luke-jr you were gonna run gentoo on n900? Dec 23 03:57:14 psycho_oreos: I see. I keep keys in the OTHER pocket :P Dec 23 03:57:16 luke-jr: you made me want to buy a n810 back in the day :) Dec 23 03:57:18 dangergrrl: I do. Dec 23 03:57:23 zakkkmm: I'm sorry. Dec 23 03:57:28 i am a funtoo person Dec 23 03:57:55 luke-jr, not saying that I do, but I have my N900 WITH screen cover AND otterbox commuter case in the same pocket.. keys, etc in other/s pocket :) Dec 23 03:58:04 err other pocket/s Dec 23 03:58:20 i have poverty Dec 23 03:58:34 if i pay rent i can't buy anything Dec 23 03:58:48 well, i bought a domain Dec 23 03:59:09 dangergrrl.info Dec 23 03:59:22 nothing there yet Dec 23 04:00:05 … Dec 23 04:01:17 it was cheap Dec 23 04:01:26 like $7.50 for a year Dec 23 04:03:58 ... you'd freeload just to buy a domain simply because of the fact that you could get yer internet handle registered to you? how sad Dec 23 04:04:50 uhm i want to work Dec 23 04:04:59 i am trying Dec 23 04:05:23 i am not freeloading Dec 23 04:07:15 I was about to say, it sounded like as if you sacrificed paying rent just to register a domain Dec 23 04:11:53 no i paid rent Dec 23 04:12:01 it is winter in colorado Dec 23 04:12:04 not stupid Dec 23 04:12:47 and if i don't pay rent i have to live outside at 9000 feet Dec 23 04:13:38 in summer i try not to pay rent Dec 23 04:13:52 it is nice living on federal lands then Dec 23 04:14:43 dangergrrl, lack of job hunting? Dec 23 04:15:34 cognitive disorder from head bashing Dec 23 04:18:00 :( Dec 23 04:18:57 anyone here use sleep analyzer? Dec 23 04:19:10 the maemo app Dec 23 04:24:46 seems interesting Dec 23 04:25:18 one could write a program to help lucid dreaming Dec 23 04:25:44 if you had telemetry for REM Dec 23 04:26:42 zakkkmm, i am slow mentally, not dumb but it takes time, and i fear men Dec 23 04:26:54 i can't work in IT in an office Dec 23 04:27:37 work from home, IT? Dec 23 04:28:11 trying Dec 23 04:28:27 drobbins does it Dec 23 04:28:36 but he is famous Dec 23 04:28:45 drobbins? Dec 23 04:29:01 the creator of gentoo Dec 23 04:29:09 daniel Dec 23 04:29:12 robbins Dec 23 04:29:21 wow Dec 23 04:29:42 gentoo is awesome, home pc is gentoo. Dec 23 04:29:44 he is my friend kina on irc at least Dec 23 04:30:03 i use funtoo Dec 23 04:30:09 it is his new thing Dec 23 04:33:16 ah sounds pretty nice Dec 23 05:38:39 if we have power kernel on the n900 how do we get the camera to work again? Dec 23 05:38:57 never stopped working for me Dec 23 05:39:43 I appear to have 48 installed right now Dec 23 05:39:49 and the camera is borked Dec 23 05:43:57 I only have 42 and 49 Dec 23 05:46:23 happymonkey: iirc u reinstall drivers. check tmo. Dec 23 06:14:12 are there any tablet sized phones that run maemo? Dec 23 06:14:48 no Dec 23 06:15:08 N900 is the only tablet that has phone functionality Dec 23 06:23:29 psycho_oreos: thanks Dec 23 06:23:44 what about anything running linux, moblin, meego Dec 23 06:24:49 tablet-sized = 7" ? Dec 23 06:25:06 do some people consider the htc hd2 tablet sized? Dec 23 06:25:10 i mean Dec 23 06:25:14 bigger than the n900 =) Dec 23 06:25:24 hd2 runs meego doesnt it? Dec 23 06:26:01 http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=984 Dec 23 06:29:38 I think there's less than a handful of devices running meego, though it is possible in theory to run meego in chroot environment and I'm sure there's plenty of devices that supports chroot. Though running meego natively heavily depends on various factors leaving the possibility of running meego natively on a device fairly slim and restricted to less than a handful of devices Dec 23 06:31:31 yeah Dec 23 06:31:55 ive always wondered what you get if you get one of those generic phone/tablet developer kits from china that give you a choice of Windows Mobile, Android, or Linux.. they generally come with a CD of the OS and/or an x86 friendly cross-development toolchain Dec 23 06:33:27 I'm guessing not a lot, one of me mate (friend) whom got a Chinese branded tablet and their guides were either in Chinese (simplified) or broken English with tools mostly for windows Dec 23 06:33:49 well i mean, look at this, this was the result of a very quick ebay search Dec 23 06:33:50 http://www.ebay.com/itm/FriendARM-Tiny6410-S3C6410-ARM11-development-board-4-3-TFT-LCD-Android-Linux-/150722727025?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2317c64c71 Dec 23 06:34:17 that one might not have a GSM modem or phone functionality built in Dec 23 06:34:23 but OTOH its only $144 Dec 23 06:37:57 swiftkick: as for the HD2, you lose FM and keyboard for certain, but you do get a different digitizer Dec 23 06:41:15 what im wondering is Dec 23 06:41:22 heres a new question Dec 23 06:41:29 is the cell call functionality SS7 ? Dec 23 06:41:47 i know its proprietary on maemo. is that open source on meego? Dec 23 06:42:16 the actual codebase that handles placing voice calls over the PSTN via GSM etc.... Dec 23 06:43:27 meego or harmattan? Dec 23 06:44:06 anything, lol. i'm pretty much a newb to maemo with an n900 i purchased recently, but not really new to linux or embedded systems Dec 23 06:46:27 ive been thumbing thru various docs online, the wiki, etc. ive already added a crapton of packages from the repositories. but im still not clear on what meego represents since the N9 runs mameo 6. Dec 23 06:46:50 ok, as long as you have that distinction worked out Dec 23 06:47:05 harmattan is likely not much more open than fremantle Dec 23 06:47:13 but meego should be more open Dec 23 06:48:19 https://meego.com/projects Dec 23 06:49:59 though meego relies on RPM as opposed to DEB package environments Dec 23 06:50:30 oh nice Dec 23 06:50:56 meego is redhat derived? Dec 23 06:52:26 no, more like it just utilises the RPM instead Dec 23 06:52:31 interesting Dec 23 06:52:57 you could say its kinda like opensuse sort of situation.. not part of redhat let alone affiliated however just using the same package management Dec 23 06:53:42 RPM packaging came from moblin Dec 23 06:54:11 well im definitely having fun with this N900, its my first attempt at an upgrade from my Nokia 9300 in a while. Dec 23 06:54:50 9300 has hildon iirc Dec 23 06:54:58 "While RPM was originally written in 1997 by Erik Troan and Marc Ewing[3] for use in Red Hat Linux, RPM is now used in many GNU/Linux distributions. It has also been ported to some other operating systems, such as Novell NetWare (as of version 6.5 SP3) and IBM's AIX as of version 4." - wikipedia Dec 23 06:55:04 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/21/nokia_hildon_the_great_lost_platform/ Dec 23 06:56:02 auenf: aha, yes, I'd heard a little about this. the irony is, the 9300 is a very sturdy physical build. but the symbian version S80 it ran was like a dead fork of the symbian tree. Dec 23 06:56:41 the nice thing aobut a 9300 is it will run a lot of basic java apps too, i mean for $50 like new on ebay, its a very disposable phone Dec 23 06:57:10 and i was looking kinda in the direction of an N97, but then I realized I'd much rather have something a more tablet like experience Dec 23 06:57:25 as opposed to the more phone-like experience I'd probably get on the N97 Dec 23 06:59:05 what about E7? I don't know if it runs hildon but Dec 23 06:59:16 I've definitely tried to upgrade before. I'd tried a few other brands, an HTC device or two - the Tilt and/or TytnII, I forget which ones... also some blackberry crap Dec 23 06:59:36 but they werent linux and they definitely lacked that sturdy build of the old 6300/9300 era physical builds of the Nokias Dec 23 06:59:53 i'd drop it like twice, and, time for a new display Dec 23 07:00:32 or my favorite, spontaneous electrical failure. that got one of the HTCs - apparently from static discharge in an automobile on a cold winter day here in chicago. Dec 23 07:02:01 needless to say, while the N900 definitely seems to have a far sturdier build on the slide mechanism than I'd seen on a friends HTC product. Dec 23 07:02:47 I am still trying to be a little more careful with taking good care of this device. Dec 23 07:03:12 the thing is, hildon looks cool, but its dead Dec 23 07:04:36 and although i didnt read every last scrap of documentation on the n900 before buying it, i could have sworn I read somewhere that maemo6 was going to "be" meego... I didn't realize there was that much of an architectural difference Dec 23 07:05:17 so the irony is this might be a great phone, but maemo5 might end up like Symbian 80 on the Nokia 9300 Dec 23 07:06:28 or do you mean series 90 :P Dec 23 07:06:39 I thought both were dead Dec 23 07:06:41 whats series 90 Dec 23 07:06:44 80 and 90 Dec 23 07:06:48 is that like the 97's Dec 23 07:06:50 nokia 7700/7710 Dec 23 07:06:54 oh nice Dec 23 07:07:04 7700 never got released Dec 23 07:07:05 i didnt know there was another symbian edition besides 60 and 80 Dec 23 07:07:21 when 7710 got released, all 'series 90' info got changed to stuff like 'SDK for nokia 7710) Dec 23 07:07:55 which reminds me, need to charge my 7710 and get a pic of it next to my n900 and n9 Dec 23 07:08:42 what else do i need to finish my stillborn device collection? Dec 23 07:09:08 so is it worth upgrading from maemo5 freemantle to mameo5 hanmattan ? I look at http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Maemo_roadmap/Harmattan and I'm not seeing any dates that look very recent Dec 23 07:09:38 err, freemantle is maemo 5, harmattan is maemo 6 rebranded to meego 1.2 harmattan Dec 23 07:09:46 ah Dec 23 07:09:49 er Dec 23 07:09:51 confusing Dec 23 07:09:54 N950.. they're extremely rare Dec 23 07:09:58 but i thought maemo6 doesnt run on the N900 ? Dec 23 07:10:04 no it doesn't Dec 23 07:10:06 6 doesnt run on n900, no Dec 23 07:10:12 but meego does? Dec 23 07:10:28 meego is open source, harmattan/fremantle aren't Dec 23 07:10:49 and there's hardware differences. N900 uses softfp, N950/N9 uses hardfp Dec 23 07:11:38 comparing the pace of activity of blog posts and last updated dates on the maemo.org site versus the two meego sites, meego seems a bit dead Dec 23 07:11:52 N950.. they're extremely rare <-- i'd need 7700 also? Dec 23 07:11:52 the N9 is already out isn't it? its running this meego 1.2 harmattan? Dec 23 07:12:20 softfp/hardfp? floating point? Dec 23 07:12:29 yes floating point Dec 23 07:12:35 auenf, 7700? symbian? bleh Dec 23 07:12:47 hildon :P Dec 23 07:12:49 swiftkick, yes N9 is already out in selected countries, N950 otoh isn't Dec 23 07:12:59 auenf, that's the UI not the base platform :þ Dec 23 07:13:47 its cool, i'm pretty much stuck with the n900 =) Dec 23 07:14:14 I use hardfp on N900 Dec 23 07:14:38 that's not a hardware difference. Dec 23 07:14:47 i got it in mint condition for less than $200, and its basically my first investment in the direction of a tablet style device. Dec 23 07:15:14 swiftkick: there probably won't be a viable replacement for N900 for years Dec 23 07:15:55 thing is Dec 23 07:15:59 i could use something a little bigger Dec 23 07:16:07 yeah, N900 was a bit small Dec 23 07:16:14 bit thick also Dec 23 07:16:16 this will make a nice phone, and the linux aspect is neat, i will definitely explore that more Dec 23 07:16:42 N900 isn't really that thick.. try adding otterbox commuter series case onto the N900 before saying its thick :þ Dec 23 07:17:01 N900 is too thin, actually Dec 23 07:17:10 im fascinated by medium to higher performance computing or telephony in odd form factors... Dec 23 07:17:16 Depends on what you're using it for. Dec 23 07:18:02 the N900 is 4.3" diagonal? Dec 23 07:18:14 3.9"? Dec 23 07:18:27 oh well the screen is 3.9 and the body is 4.3 Dec 23 07:19:08 hmm, 3.5" screen Dec 23 07:19:09 i could see a 6" or even 7" tablet phone, depending on the aspect ratio Dec 23 07:19:35 i've got a zte v9 (7" android tablet" Dec 23 07:19:39 its sorta pocketable Dec 23 07:19:48 it'll fit in jeans back pocket, but stick out the top Dec 23 07:19:51 auenf: is it also a phone? Dec 23 07:20:02 also, you'd also look like a tool trying to use it as a phone Dec 23 07:20:07 lol Dec 23 07:20:09 it can make/receive calls Dec 23 07:20:12 but only in speakerphone Dec 23 07:20:54 yah i think my friends galaxy tab has that option too Dec 23 07:21:04 or you can unlock the dialer somehow Dec 23 07:21:22 came with 2.1 Dec 23 07:21:26 upgradeable to 2.2 Dec 23 07:21:37 so its just a 7" android phone Dec 23 07:22:00 http://www.gsmarena.com/zte_v9-3903.php Dec 23 07:23:39 oh well Dec 23 07:24:10 7" is far too big for a phone :P Dec 23 07:24:21 5" is probably the limit (streak, galaxy note) Dec 23 07:24:39 i somewhat agree about 7" being the limit, but only for the current form factor of tablets Dec 23 07:24:48 if you narrowed it up a little more it wouldnt be quite so awkward Dec 23 07:25:08 its another case where im surprised there isnt a 6" Dec 23 07:26:03 isn't it these days, headphones/headset are all the rage? and especially wireless types? I mean why would you want to hold something like 7" device close to yer ear? Dec 23 07:27:42 psycho: You may want to use a pin to attach it to your ear Dec 23 07:56:42 wow, at ~267 ppi pixel density n900 screen still beats many, incl. N9 Dec 23 07:58:27 Sicelo: bet if you check the touch density, N900 beats everything in the last year ;) Dec 23 08:24:55 hmm, i just installed Keepassx on my N900. it's nice, but UI is unusable. menu is too squashed :( Dec 23 08:55:25 wow, gotta say I'm kind of disappointed in the lack of os options for the n900 Dec 23 08:56:08 is there another handheld with more options? Dec 23 08:56:24 Sicelo: openmoko.org Dec 23 08:56:41 openmoko is dead Dec 23 08:57:00 jacekowski: no, it's not. GTA04 came out just recently Dec 23 08:57:51 (latest hw revision) Dec 23 08:58:41 and it costs like 2x as much Dec 23 08:58:59 and it still lacks a core component Dec 23 09:09:01 badcloud_; dunno any other phone with as many os options, most other are single os only :p Dec 23 09:09:17 arguably the hd2 Dec 23 09:10:21 ShadowJK: again, I point to openmoko. you've got at least 5 decent, working distros Dec 23 09:10:49 would be cool if gta04 came with a case with keyboard Dec 23 09:11:03 ShadowJK: +1 Dec 23 09:13:10 badcloud_: on n900, you've got meego, maemo, debian. android, ubuntu Dec 23 09:13:44 fedora, and other stuff too :P Dec 23 09:13:53 jacekowski: meego doesn't seem to have good keyboard support, at least without installing something extra Dec 23 09:14:21 android, at least from the wiki page doesn't have wifi Dec 23 09:14:29 debian doesn't do gsm Dec 23 09:14:30 there is also mer, and nemo and plasma active Dec 23 09:14:41 ubuntu requires at least class 6 usd Dec 23 09:15:48 no it doesn't Dec 23 09:15:54 it's recommended for performance reasons Dec 23 09:16:02 but you can run it on aything Dec 23 09:16:13 jacekowski: how well would it run on a class 2? Dec 23 09:16:22 slowly Dec 23 09:16:26 not very, but whats that got to do with the n900? Dec 23 09:16:27 Many class10 and class6 cards are slower than sandisk class 4 and even class 2 anyways.. Dec 23 09:17:04 all I'm saying is that choices are limited due to lack of functionality in each available distro Dec 23 09:17:21 you're always going to give up something by choosing something other than maemo Dec 23 09:18:54 I'm not trying to troll, I'm just saying what I've experienced trying to use meego and from what I've read online about the others Dec 23 09:20:55 I think people start porting an os and then say "meh, maemo is good enough" and goes back to using maemo :P Dec 23 10:19:53 ir keyboard with n900? not much info online Dec 23 10:20:23 n900 has no designed IR reciever. Dec 23 10:21:18 SpeedEvil: thanks Dec 23 13:09:57 Hey there Dec 23 13:10:15 any N900 experts ? Dec 23 13:11:44 hmm Dec 23 13:11:48 nobody there Dec 23 13:12:03 hello? Dec 23 13:12:38 you'll never find out unless you ask your real question, stupid. Dec 23 13:12:46 dm8tbr: be nice Dec 23 13:13:02 lol Dec 23 13:13:48 is installing any other OS on N900 like backtrack or ubunto or nitdroid have the same method ? Dec 23 13:14:09 multi-boot Dec 23 13:14:57 dm8tbr here is my real question, bitch xD Dec 23 13:16:58 N00B__: I think the methods differ slightly Dec 23 13:17:07 but all along the same idea Dec 23 13:17:21 which is format partition on flash/microsd Dec 23 13:17:26 extract image Dec 23 13:17:34 install bootmenu/bootloader Dec 23 13:17:43 disco! Dec 23 13:17:53 ohh i see.. thanks dude :)) Dec 23 13:18:14 no prob Dec 23 13:18:27 but why do i need to format the memorycard ? Dec 23 13:18:51 some need ext2/3 filesystem Dec 23 13:19:22 doesn't seems that hard.. thanks for helping Dec 23 13:19:46 np Dec 23 13:27:07 badcloud: it got him talking, mission accomplished Dec 23 13:53:35 dm8tbr: touche Dec 23 14:20:35 guys what is the mean of MMC and eMMC ? Dec 23 14:23:02 guys what is the mean of MMC and eMMC ? Dec 23 14:23:09 MMC means "MultiMedia Card", a type of flash memory, while eMMC means "Embedded Multimedia Card" Dec 23 14:23:28 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MultiMediaCard Dec 23 14:23:51 MMC and eMMC are memory cards like the SD ? Dec 23 14:24:01 on the context of Maemo devices, eMMC is usually used to refer to the internal, non removable card Dec 23 14:24:08 yes Dec 23 14:25:02 ohhh the eMMC is the internal memory and MMC is the SD one XD thanks Dec 23 14:25:41 internal memory _card_, it is important Dec 23 14:25:59 because there is also the NAND/OneNAND Dec 23 14:26:37 hmm okkay Dec 23 14:26:56 for example the N900 contains a 256MB OneNAND chip, a 32GB eMMC card, and the SD card slot. Dec 23 14:30:03 256 is for apps ? Dec 23 14:30:34 Not really Dec 23 14:30:39 256 is for the 'core' system Dec 23 14:30:46 It won't properly boot without the emmc Dec 23 14:31:35 ohh got it Dec 23 14:32:13 moo javispedro Dec 23 14:32:28 moo RST38h et all Dec 23 14:32:41 With pr1.0, I think it would. Dec 23 14:33:01 can you give me a link for flashing tutorial ? Dec 23 14:33:22 ~flasing Dec 23 14:33:25 `flashing Dec 23 14:33:28 ~flashing Dec 23 14:33:28 extra, extra, read all about it, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Dec 23 14:33:40 lol thanks xD Dec 23 14:37:38 can i use the flasher to install the modded image that have 8gb apps 20gb files ? Dec 23 14:49:58 to install the modded 8gb apps 20gb files should i use the flasher ? Dec 23 14:52:04 note that modded images are theoretically illegal Dec 23 14:52:32 it is quite easy to do it oneself Dec 23 14:52:43 there were instructions somewhere Dec 23 14:57:00 illegal and they put links to download in meamo.org ? Dec 23 14:57:10 if it is easy to do i don't mind do it myself Dec 23 15:51:25 ping X-Fade Dec 23 15:51:37 ~seen X-Fade Dec 23 15:51:42 x-fade is currently on #maemo (7h 40m 41s) #harmattan (7h 40m 41s) #meego (7h 40m 41s). Has said a total of 41 messages. Is idling for 2h 20m 59s, last said: 'gri: Security through obscurity is always a false sense.'. Dec 23 16:13:06 anyone tried pairing with this? http://www.1800mobiles.com/bluetooth-keyboard1.html Dec 23 16:29:07 Hey Guys, Does anyone know how to fix the following: I'm unable to install the new Maemo Update, released some weeks ago. I always get the Message, that I wouldn't have enough Application Memory, but this is definately false. Usual Apps are updateable without errors?! Dec 23 16:34:38 Berlinermauer: in how far is it defenitely flase? Dec 23 16:34:54 what does 'df -h' tell you about space in / ? Dec 23 16:35:21 well i don't know how much exactly, but afaik in "settings->Space" it said something about 200mb? I'll look, just a sec Dec 23 16:36:39 can't be 200mb, because / is only ~230 mb :D Dec 23 16:36:44 I've got 88 here Dec 23 16:37:39 xD Dec 23 16:37:50 wtf Dec 23 16:38:01 you're right, somehow unter / i have use%: 100% xD Dec 23 16:38:03 Berlinermauer: the important lines are the first one (ubi0:rootfs) and the one with /dev/mmcb1k0p2 Dec 23 16:38:19 well go digging what eats up your rootfs space :D Dec 23 16:39:05 the /dev/mmcb1k0p2 uses 1.3G out of 2GB Dec 23 16:39:34 that's whay it says you have space in settings->space Dec 23 16:39:42