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Jan 30 03:32:48 <oilinki> good morning. quick question. where on the filesystem the N900 images with camera are located?
Jan 30 03:37:55 <oilinki> some say that those are supposed to be on /home/user/MyDocs/DCIM but there is no files. yet I can see the images with GUI Photo application
Jan 30 03:39:01 <LaoLang_cool> oilinki: .camera
Jan 30 03:39:15 <LaoLang_cool> or DCIM on sd card
Jan 30 03:39:30 <LaoLang_cool> .camera/ is on MyDocs/
Jan 30 03:40:01 <newbie007> hi, I'm trying to create a desktop widget. I'm following the code from example-desktop-widget-0.2.0. Everything was going well until I tried installing it a few more times. I can't seem to remove it now. The error message I'm getting is here: http://www.fpaste.org/DZuo/ Any ideas to get this removed?
Jan 30 03:40:03 <oilinki> I don't have that directory. really puzzled.
Jan 30 03:40:23 <oilinki> I'll check the memory card if the images are somewhere there
Jan 30 03:41:09 <oilinki> LaoLang_cool: thanks for the tip. the images are for some reason on the memory card. I did not know that. /media/mmc1/DCIM
Jan 30 03:41:48 <LaoLang_cool> oilinki: if sd card is unavailable, it will be located on MyDocs/.camera IIRC
Jan 30 03:44:07 <oilinki> LaoLang_cool: ok.  I'll better to remove the memory card as I wish to store the images on the device itself.
Jan 30 03:44:47 <LaoLang_cool> oilinki: ok, I'd like it to be on the memory card ;p
Jan 30 03:45:57 <oilinki> Yes. I guess these are our preferences :) I think however my memory card was not mounted to my laptop when I connected the device with usb.
Jan 30 03:46:35 <oilinki> anyway I wish to make a short rsync which will upload the images to my laptop or to NAS when the device is connected to home network
Jan 30 03:46:47 <oilinki> ..lazy to copy the files manually :)
Jan 30 03:48:32 <LaoLang_cool> looks nice
Jan 30 03:48:53 <LaoLang_cool> We all lazy ^^
Jan 30 04:12:04 <newbie007> hi, I'm trying to create a desktop widget. I'm following the code from example-desktop-widget-0.2.0. Everything was going well until I tried installing it a few more times. I can't seem to remove it now. The error message I'm getting is here: http://www.fpaste.org/DZuo/ Any ideas to get this removed?
Jan 30 04:15:35 <newbie007> is there a dev channel?
Jan 30 04:33:33 <newbie007> I think the solution was to restart af-sb then restart scratchbox
Jan 30 06:42:16 <DocScrutinizer> oilinki: there's a chooser in camera app, lower left side icon
Jan 30 06:42:44 <DocScrutinizer> pick your storage destination from internal and uSD card there
Jan 30 06:55:29 <Macer> StyXman: sorry but what was the nav app you said to try?
Jan 30 06:55:46 <Macer> marble?
Jan 30 06:56:57 <Macer> marble + something for the audio
Jan 30 07:12:08 <DocScrutinizer> monav, for routing
Jan 30 09:17:52 <massoud> hi dears,
Jan 30 09:18:22 <massoud> i would like to completely clone one n900 to another n900 
Jan 30 09:19:00 <massoud> what is the optimized way to do that (dd of the partitions?)?any maemo tools to do that?
Jan 30 09:24:11 <[DarkGUNMAN]> morning all
Jan 30 09:49:29 <Sicelo> massoud: i'd use BackupMenu
Jan 30 10:49:38 <massoud> Sicelo: thanks will use it as it seems to the solution
Jan 30 13:14:40 <[DarkGUNMAN]> afternoon all
Jan 30 13:15:42 <freemangordon> trumee_afk, pink
Jan 30 13:16:00 <freemangordon> trumee_afk, ping :D
Jan 30 14:05:49 <StyXman> Sicelo: you suggested BackupMenu for copying the contents of a n900 to another. any advantage over an rsync script? I have two for backing up/restoring mine
Jan 30 14:18:08 <Sicelo> well, i dunno.. i'm no guru. but i wonder how well rsync can work with a 'live' system. 
Jan 30 14:21:43 <cehteh> you can rsync a live system, do it again, maybe twice (this time it will be fast since no much changes happen), then stop the system and rsync it once again finally 
Jan 30 14:22:19 <cehteh> but well this wont work well from inside the system you cant rsync a stopped system, works well with virtual servers, chroots and so on :)
Jan 30 14:22:57 <cehteh> backup menu doesnt backup user data btw you need more than that, and there rsync might be an advantage, and you know certainly that you didnt changed the user data
Jan 30 14:23:51 <Cloud_> Hi, there
Jan 30 14:23:59 <Cloud_> !
Jan 30 14:52:53 <RST38h> A couple of Brits were unceremoniously ejected from the US last week after one of them ill-advisedly tweeted he was off to "destroy America"
Jan 30 14:52:57 <RST38h> Mghm
Jan 30 14:53:13 * RST38h has read about it all before
Jan 30 14:58:14 * MohammadAG fears he's forgetting C++
Jan 30 14:58:28 <MohammadAG> or I fucked up, one  of either
Jan 30 15:06:08 <totalizator> does NITDroid install new kernel? what does it modify in the original system?
Jan 30 15:08:10 <keesj_> Android requires kernel modifucations so my guess is that it mainly changes the boot process(e.g. add the chooser menu)
Jan 30 15:13:23 <MohammadAG> MultiBoot flashes a new kernel
Jan 30 15:23:04 <totalizator> ok, how does it differs from the stock one?
Jan 30 15:23:45 <MohammadAG> no idea, ask on #nitdroid
Jan 30 15:30:27 <RST38h> Mohammad: Pastebin
Jan 30 15:35:47 <totalizator> MohammadAG: you're right, thanks!
Jan 30 15:49:03 <MohammadAG> RST38h, I figured it out with a cheap trick I guess
Jan 30 15:49:05 <MohammadAG> but sure
Jan 30 15:51:55 <MohammadAG> RST38h, http://pastebin.com/5fnxBs1t
Jan 30 16:01:10 <MohammadAG> RST38h, problem is without the class ProfilePage (while still including profilepage.h in the .h file) errors out
Jan 30 16:27:45 <freemangordon> trumee_afk, ping
Jan 30 17:37:04 <trumee> freemangordon, pong
Jan 30 17:44:39 <freemangordon> trumee, I will upload hopefully BT handsfree fixed kernel-power in several minuts, is it possible to test it?
Jan 30 17:45:07 <trumee> freemangordon, yes. 
Jan 30 17:45:53 <trumee> freemangordon, is that with BT debug set?
Jan 30 17:46:53 <trumee> ~ping
Jan 30 17:46:53 <infobot> ~pong
Jan 30 17:47:08 <freemangordon> nope, it should fix the bug. BTW can you try the one from http://dox.bg/files/dw?a=dcb2ef99a6 in the meantime
Jan 30 17:47:31 <freemangordon> trumee ^^^
Jan 30 17:48:05 <trumee> freemangordon, not atm. should be home in about 20 mins
Jan 30 17:48:05 <trumee> freemangordon, shitty 3g internet on the train
Jan 30 17:49:08 <freemangordon> trumee ok, will wait for your report. If it does not fix the bug, I will upload a new one, which will fix it for sure
Jan 30 17:50:28 <trumee> freemangordon, somebody gave you feedback on tmo. is this a newer build to that one?
Jan 30 17:50:39 <freemangordon> no, the same
Jan 30 17:51:03 <freemangordon> but I want a confirmation that it does not solve the issue from you
Jan 30 17:51:16 <trumee> freemangordon, ok
Jan 30 18:17:56 <ruskie> http://www.reghardware.com/2012/01/30/dutch_mobile_retailer_typhone_posts_nokia_lumia_910_spec/
Jan 30 18:29:37 <trumee> freemangordon: ping
Jan 30 18:41:16 <freemangordon> trumee, pong
Jan 30 18:41:25 <trumee> freemangordon: seems to be fixed
Jan 30 18:41:34 <freemangordon> seems?
Jan 30 18:41:45 <trumee> freemangordon: yes it is fixed
Jan 30 18:41:50 <trumee> only had one issue
Jan 30 18:42:06 <freemangordon> good, that is why I wanted your confirmation.
Jan 30 18:42:38 <freemangordon> trume, what issue?
Jan 30 18:42:45 <freemangordon> trumee ^^^
Jan 30 18:42:53 <trumee> turn on headset, click on BT in status menu.
Jan 30 18:43:19 <trumee> click on devices, select BH214, click connect. N900 says connection failed
Jan 30 18:43:48 <freemangordon> that's normal AFAIK, you should initiate the connectio from handsfree itself
Jan 30 18:44:36 <trumee> freemangordon: you mean, turn N900 BT first before turning on headset?
Jan 30 18:45:08 <freemangordon> ..or push the connect button on the handsfree
Jan 30 18:45:27 <trumee> freemangordon: Nokia BH214 doesnt have a connect button
Jan 30 18:45:41 <freemangordon> well, how do you pair it then
Jan 30 18:46:12 <trumee> freemangordon: it is already paired and is a trusted device
Jan 30 18:46:18 <freemangordon> I mean, my platronics has only one button, but it has different functions dependin on how long you hold it pressed
Jan 30 18:46:48 <freemangordon> trumee, is it the same with stock kernel?
Jan 30 18:47:08 <trumee> freemangordon: hang on a minute
Jan 30 18:47:45 <trumee> freemangordon: this is not reproducable. only 1 in 5 times did it fail
Jan 30 18:47:55 <trumee> freemangordon: so i wont worry about this.
Jan 30 18:49:08 <trumee> maybe BT has to be alive for sometime before negotation happens
Jan 30 18:49:58 <trumee> freemangordon: crap
Jan 30 18:50:06 <trumee> freemangordon: it is not working anymore
Jan 30 18:50:37 <Pali> kernel-power packages was promoted to extras-testing!
Jan 30 18:50:51 <Pali> see first post in kernel-power thread
Jan 30 18:51:18 <trumee> freemangordon: ok, button stopped responding for a few seconds. and i lost a2dp
Jan 30 18:51:39 <trumee> freemangordon: but then it started working again
Jan 30 18:52:31 <freemangordon> trumee, is there any difference compared with stock kernel?
Jan 30 18:53:08 <trumee> freemangordon: did not have issues like this with stock
Jan 30 18:53:51 <trumee> freemangordon: i think this kernel needs a bit of testing before we can conclude this works
Jan 30 18:54:18 <trumee> freemangordon: i am not sure what suddenly triggered the loss of a2dp
Jan 30 18:55:43 <trumee> freemangordon: but it is behaving much better compared to KP49
Jan 30 18:55:49 <trumee> freemangordon: KP49 was unusable
Jan 30 18:56:03 <freemangordon> trumee, ok, let me upload a new kernel, this one should have all issues fixed
Jan 30 18:57:15 <freemangordon> trumee, http://dox.bg/files/dw?a=dcb2ef99a6
Jan 30 19:08:06 <freemangordon> trumee, I need your feedback to decide which of two patches I have here is better. I am not pushing you, take your time :)
Jan 30 19:12:38 <trumee> freemangordon: ok, i have flashed the new kernel
Jan 30 19:16:13 <trumee> freemangordon: i like the new one better :)
Jan 30 19:16:53 <trumee> freemangordon: cannot be sure, but it seems that stock mediaplayer resumes better after a call
Jan 30 19:19:40 <freemangordon> trumee, well, I will send that patch to pali for inclusion in KP50, if any issue arose, please post it on KP thread ont TMO. Thanks a lot for your cooperation
Jan 30 19:20:16 <trumee> freemangordon: sure will do that. Thanks for working on this.
Jan 30 19:20:37 <trumee> freemangordon: does this replace the bt-mice patch?
Jan 30 19:20:42 <freemangordon> yep
Jan 30 19:20:56 <freemangordon> do you want the new one?
Jan 30 19:21:01 <freemangordon> trumee ^^^
Jan 30 19:21:10 <trumee> freemangordon: yes please
Jan 30 19:21:28 <freemangordon> ok, I will upload it on the same place as .debs, just give me a minut
Jan 30 19:21:34 <trumee> freemangordon: ok
Jan 30 19:21:55 <Sicelo> kewl Pali 
Jan 30 19:22:12 <trumee> freemangordon: but i think i will have to wait before using kp49/50 until the video issue is sorted out
Jan 30 19:22:50 <trumee> freemangordon: cant live without podcasts :)
Jan 30 19:23:47 <freemangordon> trumee, patch uploaded here http://dox.bg/files/dw?a=dcb2ef99a6
Jan 30 19:24:57 <trumee> freemangordon: thanks
Jan 30 19:25:16 <freemangordon> trumee, you mean videos from http://feeds.feedburner.com/cnet/top5?format=xml?
Jan 30 19:25:21 <trumee> freemangordon: yes
Jan 30 19:25:34 <freemangordon> you can workaround it by installing 720p support
Jan 30 19:26:15 <trumee> freemangordon: i am afraid of breaking other stuff, so i kept away from the new codecs
Jan 30 19:26:54 <freemangordon> well, it is up to you :D. But I am using it on my primary device, no issues so far.
Jan 30 19:27:18 <trumee> freemangordon: i dont overclock either. 
Jan 30 19:27:29 <freemangordon> you don't have to
Jan 30 19:28:11 <freemangordon> actually harmattan codecs seem better optimized than stock
Jan 30 19:28:25 <trumee> freemangordon: do you think 720p+kp will go into CSSU, or kp alone?
Jan 30 19:28:51 <freemangordon> only KP until someone find how to distribute the codecs with CSSU
Jan 30 19:29:53 <trumee> freemangordon: right, then kp will need a fix to play the videos without 720p codecs
Jan 30 19:30:18 <trumee> freemangordon: do you think a fix is possible to play these videos with installing 720p codecs?
Jan 30 19:30:28 <trumee> s/with/without
Jan 30 19:30:55 <freemangordon> trumee, the problem is not in KP AIUI, but in gst-dsp, still didn't have time to look at the issue, but anyway gst-dsp is OSS, so it can be fixed
Jan 30 19:31:57 <trumee> freemangordon: right, then why is kp49 breaking gst-dsp unlike kp48?
Jan 30 19:32:44 <freemangordon> because DSP driver in KP49 is the one from Harmattan, while DSP driver in KP48 is much older
Jan 30 19:33:15 <freemangordon> i.e. something like 2.6.32 agains 2.6.30
Jan 30 19:33:59 <trumee> freemangordon: ok i see.
Jan 30 19:34:44 <trumee> freemangordon: is that something which can be reverted easily in kp49?
Jan 30 19:35:02 <freemangordon> nope
Jan 30 19:35:35 <freemangordon> DSP patch is about 2MB, and there is a lot of code written by me
Jan 30 19:36:11 <freemangordon> trumee, there will be fix, trust me on that ;)
Jan 30 19:36:24 <freemangordon> (tm)
Jan 30 19:36:29 <trumee> freemangordon: ok, will wait for your fix then. :)
Jan 30 19:36:56 <freemangordon> yeah, that will be the next issue I will look in
Jan 30 19:37:21 <trumee> freemangordon: cheers, you rock!
Jan 30 19:56:05 <pronto> so, at shmoocon last night(lobbycon), i ran into like 5 people with n900's o_o
Jan 30 21:13:38 <ruskie> http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Spark-tablet-announced/ <-- hmm
Jan 30 21:19:35 <MohammadAG> indeed
Jan 30 21:19:41 <MohammadAG> interested in it, but RAM's meh
Jan 30 21:32:41 <Macer> ruskie: that thing looks pretty cool
Jan 30 21:32:45 <Macer> and i am a big fan of kde :)
Jan 30 21:35:22 <ruskie> I'll be getting it since at that price point it's possibly cheaper than getting a raspberry pi+usb/hdmi touchscreen
Jan 30 21:35:34 <ruskie> to use for a bedside computer and such
Jan 30 21:35:41 <ruskie> and imho it is the perfect size
Jan 30 21:37:18 * SpeedEvil sort-of-wants to support the hardware.
Jan 30 21:37:31 <SpeedEvil> I guess if things go right on monday I can.
Jan 30 21:39:09 <ShadowJK> What happens monday?
Jan 30 21:41:14 <ruskie> project completion or something possibly ;)
Jan 30 21:41:18 <ruskie> or payday or something ;)
Jan 30 21:43:50 <MohammadAG> 200 euros, guess I'll start saving
Jan 30 21:44:16 <MohammadAG> hmm, or sell the N950 for, one million dollars!
Jan 30 21:44:44 <SpeedEvil> Appeal against benefit decision last January.
Jan 30 21:45:57 <ruskie> I'll be spending 210 eur for a n900 next month
Jan 30 21:46:25 <MohammadAG> another one?
Jan 30 21:46:29 <ruskie> only have one
Jan 30 21:46:43 <ruskie> haven't bought a second one for backup
Jan 30 21:46:49 <ruskie> yet
Jan 30 21:58:21 <merlin1991> ruskie: 210 is a lil high for a used device
Jan 30 21:58:26 <merlin1991> you can get proper ones for ~ 150
Jan 30 21:58:28 <ruskie> not used
Jan 30 21:58:35 <ruskie> new with a full 2 year warranty
Jan 30 21:58:44 <merlin1991> ah okay 210 is ok for that :D
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