**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Feb 01 02:59:57 2012 Feb 01 05:27:43 and i now has pwnie express on mah phone :D Feb 01 06:15:25 * thresh waves Feb 01 06:20:16 does anyone know of a good application to keep track of FOSDEM tracks / events? Feb 01 06:20:33 last year it was Sojourner, but now it shows K/G Desktop summit stuff :-) Feb 01 06:25:03 hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii guys Feb 01 06:26:40 someone help me, I want to compile nodejs for N900 Feb 01 06:51:07 anyway, I've updated Sojourner to use current FOSDEM schedule, please see http://git.altlinux.org/people/thresh/public/sojourner.git and the binary is on http://81.23.10.138/sojourner_0.2.5_all.deb Feb 01 06:51:11 cheers Feb 01 10:41:37 Why did I suddenly lose highlighting, that is, an item is highlighted blue when I tap on it. Feb 01 10:49:22 To be more specific, Im referring to the painted color of items Feb 01 12:15:19 I'm using qtlockscreen with a very simple config (just the time and unlock button). it seems to take a second or two before the button is active - so even if I reduce the press-time to 1ms, it still takes a couple of seconds before the button can be pressed. is this normal? Feb 01 12:18:22 scoobertron: I have the same problem, probably unsolvable :( Feb 01 12:20:47 bummer - I even switched back to the default theme, which has a slider, and that also seems not to respond immediately. Feb 01 13:29:53 hi Feb 01 13:30:32 anybody has a working virtualbox and could build a package for https://gitorious.org/~olethanh/sojourner/olethanhs-sojourner fosdem2012 branch? Feb 01 13:31:20 haha Feb 01 13:31:35 I just did in the morning, though I've used http://git.altlinux.org/people/thresh/public/sojourner.git Feb 01 13:31:43 the binary is on http://81.23.10.138/sojourner_0.2.5_all.deb Feb 01 13:32:27 oh nice Feb 01 13:33:11 I will ask the orginal maintainer if he can upload it on the repo Feb 01 13:33:24 sweet Feb 01 13:34:08 I've changed the Maintainer: entry though, not sure it's appropriate Feb 01 13:34:28 so now that i have pwnie express on my n900...i need to figure out what to do with it xD Feb 01 13:37:17 thresh: he is looking for a new maintainer so he won't probably mind Feb 01 13:38:59 staz: yeah but I'm pretty sure I wouldnt be any good one... Feb 01 13:39:14 I've no plans to go anywhere else than FOSDEM this year Feb 01 13:47:51 14:37 < wjt> i hate to be unhelpful, but, no Feb 01 13:47:51 14:37 < wjt> i don't have the .dsc and source tarball and so on; i don't have my credentials handy; it's not hard (IIRC) to get fremantle extras credentials; i don't want to stamp my name on something i haven't run and don't use Feb 01 13:48:05 thresh: you don't have a fremantle extras credentials per any chance? Feb 01 13:48:33 staz: nope Feb 01 13:48:45 .dsc and .tar.gz and everything is available on http://81.23.10.138/ Feb 01 13:48:55 if that's of any help, though Feb 01 13:50:10 but I'd be reluctant to sign anything as well Feb 01 13:51:31 ok Feb 01 13:53:53 so let's see if I can fix my virtualbox and send a new package Feb 01 15:35:43 <[DarkGUNMAN]> does anhyone know their way around pali's release of u-boot menu well enough to get Nemo running? Feb 01 15:37:33 [DarkGUNMAN]: I heaven't tried his release yet (though I would appreciate a link) but I've talked to him about it Feb 01 15:37:40 should work just like the one in the repos Feb 01 15:37:59 attach kernel to u-boot binary flash and you're ready Feb 01 15:38:58 <[DarkGUNMAN]> how do i obtain the kernel? Feb 01 15:40:25 <[DarkGUNMAN]> last time i had this working by flashing the sdcard with the nemo image, then using matan's u-boot attached to power48 kernel Feb 01 15:41:19 well you need to attach the uimage of the kernel you currently use on maemo Feb 01 15:41:35 so get the kernel packge tranform it to a uimage and combine Feb 01 15:41:52 <[DarkGUNMAN]> trying run sdboot from uboot console starts nemo, but i get an endless stream of denied errors Feb 01 15:42:13 ouch Feb 01 15:53:24 <[DarkGUNMAN]> would that mean using uboot to launch the combined image i created with matans uboot attached? Feb 01 15:56:47 what do you mean by combined image? Feb 01 16:29:33 hello. anyone here with opengles experience? Feb 01 16:31:28 i'm porting an application (gem for pd) to gl es, but glFrustumf and glClearDepthf crash the program - they seem to be missing? is that possible? Feb 01 16:36:34 this is with opengles-1.1 (/usr/include/gles/gl.h -> /usr/lib/libGLES_CM.so) Feb 01 16:37:04 (oops /usr/include/GLES/gl.h) Feb 01 17:56:43 trumee, ping Feb 01 18:20:05 freemangordon, pong Feb 01 18:20:41 trumee, I am unable to reproduce DSP crash with videos from http://feeds.feedburner.com/cnet/top5?format=xml Feb 01 18:21:00 works like charm, both streaming and from local storage Feb 01 18:21:12 freemangordon, i dont have 720p codecs Feb 01 18:21:16 me too Feb 01 18:21:24 freemangordon, that is strange Feb 01 18:21:34 i've reverted them on my second n900 Feb 01 18:22:00 freemangordon, Sicelo confirmed on his device too that videos didnot work Feb 01 18:22:04 may i have your /etc/modprobe.d/bridgedriver contents? Feb 01 18:22:19 i am on kp48 atm Feb 01 18:22:37 does not matter Feb 01 18:22:57 options bridgedriver phys_mempool_base=0 base_img=/lib/dsp/baseimage.dof Feb 01 18:23:50 looks ok. well, have no clue what is wrong with your device, but it works here. Feb 01 18:24:28 i think we need somebody else to confirm Feb 01 18:24:36 ffs Feb 01 18:24:38 agree Feb 01 18:24:41 where is video Feb 01 18:24:56 http://feeds.feedburner.com/cnet/top5?format=xml Feb 01 18:24:57 i watch it on kp49 with harmat codecs Feb 01 18:25:02 no Feb 01 18:25:06 we need stock Feb 01 18:25:07 no? Feb 01 18:25:10 bah Feb 01 18:25:15 vi__, not we need a check with stock codecs Feb 01 18:25:30 Sicelo, ping Feb 01 18:25:33 nae c**** runs stock anymore. Feb 01 18:26:34 so your video fails to play on your device running stock everythin trumee? Feb 01 18:26:47 freemangordon, is your other device newly flashed with CSSU stable and kp49? Feb 01 18:26:47 freemangordon, since that is what i have Feb 01 18:27:39 well, it is my development device, but before making tests I reinstall gst-openmax, gst-dsp and rebooted Feb 01 18:27:42 vi__, kp49 + cssu stable=fail, kp48+ cssu stable=ok, stock kernel+cssu stable=ok Feb 01 18:28:21 CSSU has nothing to do with DSP (for now) Feb 01 18:29:13 freemangordon, do you need any info from my device which would be of help? Feb 01 18:29:23 and where did this video come from? Feb 01 18:29:38 also i asume mplayer can handle it? Feb 01 18:29:44 yep Feb 01 18:29:47 vi__, no idea, it is CNET podcast Feb 01 18:29:58 mplayer with kp49 is ok here Feb 01 18:30:16 * trumee guess dsp is not used in mplayer Feb 01 18:30:27 thus I can't see how anything other than maybe PK49 might melt down video Feb 01 18:30:28 and do other cnet podcasts fail as well? Feb 01 18:30:53 DocScrutinizer, it WFM Feb 01 18:30:55 i tried Loaded podcast, they failed too Feb 01 18:31:21 freemangordon: no PK49 here Feb 01 18:31:37 so all cnet podcasts fail? Feb 01 18:32:23 vi__, i didnt try many only a few. all those worked in stock and kp48 Feb 01 18:32:46 so it is just a single unique freak of a file Feb 01 18:33:04 that fails on only your device? Feb 01 18:33:18 vi__, and Sicelos device Feb 01 18:33:45 perhaps the file is corrupt Feb 01 18:34:01 vi__, no file plays in mplayer and kp48 Feb 01 18:34:16 http://www.reghardware.com/2012/02/01/munich_court_rejects_apple_demand_for_ban_on_samsung_galaxy_tab_tablet/ Feb 01 18:34:18 hey trumee Feb 01 18:34:24 perhaps it was made on a 'doze machine and they have not terminated CR properly. Feb 01 18:34:53 Sicelo, we need a confirmation that video does not work on your device Feb 01 18:34:55 mplayer will play anything. Feb 01 18:35:12 Sicelo: then you need to confirm you set up. Feb 01 18:35:28 Sicelo, the cnet podcast video. can your confirm you dont have 720p codecs Feb 01 18:35:51 BTW have in mind I am running pre50, although I don't see a reason why a video bugging 49 would be ok on pre50 Feb 01 18:36:15 freemangordon, pre50 also doesn't play here Feb 01 18:36:22 PLEASE! can we saet up a *proper* poll. with link to a known-to-tickle-bug video and all? Feb 01 18:37:23 trumee, which is the *EXACT* video that refuse to play Feb 01 18:37:46 how can i confirm trumee? Feb 01 18:37:50 afaik i don't Feb 01 18:38:15 freemangordon, pls give me 20 mins. will confirm when i reach home Feb 01 18:38:38 freemangordon, pls can you confirm with Sicelo Feb 01 18:38:59 1 file failing to play on 1 machine sounds like a non bug to me. Feb 01 18:39:04 ship it. Feb 01 18:39:56 vi__: it breaks on mine too Feb 01 18:40:00 vi__, lets make sure it is 1 video on 1 machine. Feb 01 18:40:08 Sicelo, which one? Feb 01 18:40:12 i just happen to not use videos so much on my n900. Feb 01 18:40:24 trumee's cnet vids, on kp49 Feb 01 18:40:31 Sicelo: you cannot remember if you replaced libgstdsp.so. Feb 01 18:40:35 give me one example Feb 01 18:41:06 since all cnet videos i've tried here play pretty well Feb 01 18:41:18 vi__: i didn't. i have no use for 720p or anything similar Feb 01 18:41:53 freemangordon: can't give u one now as i've booted debian on my n900 atm Feb 01 18:42:32 ok, I will wait for trumee's feedback then Feb 01 18:43:32 with kp49 in testing, maybe now is the time to load kp50 to dev with a fatass warning. From there we can orchestrate a bugsplat using a wider range og lemmings...uh 'users'. Feb 01 18:43:53 vi__ : ? Feb 01 18:43:58 :D, seems like pali is busy till the end of the week Feb 01 18:44:39 so i won't expect that to happen before lets say Saturday Feb 01 18:44:52 meh Feb 01 18:45:32 and this is why i should have received a spare n900 from that stupid meego coding farce. Feb 01 18:45:51 so I can help test this shit. Feb 01 18:45:52 freemangordon: https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2012-01-28.log.html#t2012-01-28T19:27:38 Feb 01 18:46:35 so we dont have to handhold some dumbass through triggering the bug to only find he has maemodder and asspatch installed. Feb 01 18:47:02 Sicelo, thanks, will try it Feb 01 18:47:22 this is the one i downloaded, http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp4/dw.com.com/redir/cnet_2012-01-23-175133.dl.mp4?destUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fcnet.co%2FxfurbS%3FADPARAMS%3DBRAND%3D47%7CSITE%3D53%7CSP%3D181%7CPOS%3D100%7CNCAT%3D13482%3A13489%3A&ontId=14106&siteId=145&edId=3&asid=50118791&pid=&astId=31<ype=dl_dlnow Feb 01 18:48:01 freemangordon: did you increase jpeg quality in lingstdsp.so for kp50? Feb 01 18:52:02 vi__, you noob, gst-dsp is not a part of the kernel :p Feb 01 18:52:17 Sicelo, that streams just fine here Feb 01 18:53:47 open ticket against PK49, comment: "please paste here rsult of cmdline: "date; uname -a; sysinfo-tool -g /device/sw-release-ver" Feb 01 18:54:40 \n "please test http://URL-to-video.swf and tell here if it plays full length" Feb 01 18:55:51 \n "we need several reports of the combinations of PoweKern47, 48, 49, and stock kernel, with at least stock maemo and maybe also both CSSU-Trsting and -Stasble" Feb 01 18:57:31 \n "please also add the output of 'apt-cache policy gst-dsp', ktnx" Feb 01 18:57:40 freemangordon: ok, how can i help? Feb 01 18:58:16 install pre50 kernel, the same we use to test BT headset Feb 01 18:58:16 is any of you capable to open such a ticket and beautify my raw sketch for cmdline info collector as of above? Feb 01 18:58:31 freemangordon: ok Feb 01 18:58:46 no use in wild info pingpong here Feb 01 19:01:09 oops missed sth: \n "please also add output of 'cat /proc/cpu', thanks again" Feb 01 19:04:07 so to sum up: >>date; uname -a; sysinfo-tool -g /device/sw-release-ver; cat /proc/cpu; apt-cache show gstreamer0.10-dsp Feb 01 19:04:28 sth else? Feb 01 19:04:51 libmafw or sth? Feb 01 19:05:51 thanks DocScrutinizer \o/ your approach is the sanest so far Feb 01 19:05:53 freemangordon: I know, it is just that it is a 'free' improvement that breaks nothing and improves somthing simply by changing 3 characters. I was just wondering if you had enabled it. Feb 01 19:06:17 apt-cache show mafw-gst-renderer Feb 01 19:06:54 vi__, there is a new upstream version of maemo6 gst-dsp, still fighting with it Feb 01 19:07:46 wft is gst-dsp? Feb 01 19:08:36 http://code.google.com/p/gst-dsp/ Feb 01 19:08:52 fair enough. FWIW in jpegenc.c (or what it is called) there is a line #define default_quality 85 (or something like that) thats the one, just wap it upto 100. Feb 01 19:09:54 >>date; echo ===============; uname -a; echo ===============; sysinfo-tool -g /device/sw-release-ver; echo ===============; cat /proc/cpu; echo ===============; apt-cache show gstreamer0.10-dsp; echo ===============; apt-cache show mafw-gst-renderer Feb 01 19:10:24 freemangordon: how's an IRL resonsible for defects on N900? Feb 01 19:10:29 URL* Feb 01 19:11:20 freemangordon: will this friggin URL tell me to find out which version of your obscure gst-dsp I got or got not on my device? Feb 01 19:12:58 DocScrutinizer, it is not mine. And you can look maemo5 branch here:http://meego.gitorious.org/maemo-multimedia/gst-dsp for the version your device is running Feb 01 19:14:08 this branch for sure woun't tell me which version *my* device is running Feb 01 19:14:22 hehe Feb 01 19:14:32 >>date; echo ===============; uname -a; echo ===============; sysinfo-tool -g /device/sw-release-ver; echo ===============; cat /proc/cpuinfo; echo ===============; apt-cache show gstreamer0.10-dsp; echo ===============; apt-cache show mafw-gst-renderer Feb 01 19:17:04 c'mon guys, you act like you never triaged a bug in your llife Feb 01 19:19:43 DocScrutinizer: I never did :D Feb 01 19:19:48 at least properly :P Feb 01 19:19:52 what's that (probably dbus-send) cmd to invoke mediaplayer with a URL pointing to a video? Feb 01 19:20:40 i bet it's hildon_open thing Feb 01 19:21:02 and WHAT THE HECK is an URL that will fail to playback, on devices where it's failing? Feb 01 19:22:07 this "bwaah!! I can'T watch videos!!1!!1!1 does it work for you??" is *useless* Feb 01 19:23:01 provide *PROPER* instructions to test, that yield a wealth of useful info about your testers' systems, and preferably are simple to c&p Feb 01 19:23:07 aka foolproof Feb 01 19:23:39 like this: Feb 01 19:23:45 >>date; echo ===============; uname -a; echo ===============; sysinfo-tool -g /device/sw-release-ver; echo ===============; cat /proc/cpuinfo; echo ===============; apt-cache show gstreamer0.10-dsp; echo ===============; apt-cache show mafw-gst-renderer Feb 01 19:24:17 no friggin "look into foobar branch to learn what I'm talking bout, fool!" Feb 01 19:29:20 or "so we dont have to handhold some dumbass through triggering the bug to only find he has maemodder and asspatch installed." .. which is rather offensive when one doesn't even have a clue what the configuration is on a particular system Feb 01 19:29:37 Andre_: or should this be """please execute '(date; echo ===============; uname -a; echo ===============; sysinfo-tool -g /device/sw-release-ver; echo ===============; cat /proc/cpuinfo; echo ===============; apt-cache show gstreamer0.10-dsp; echo ===============; apt-cache show mafw-gst-renderer) >dsp-tret-result.txt; #and attach this dsp-tret-result.txt file to your comment on this very ticket on bugs.maemo.org""" ? Feb 01 19:30:39 err, where's andre_? Feb 01 20:27:22 Hi! Does anyone here knows if the EQ in SomePlayer works with BlueTooth headsets? Feb 01 20:27:48 i dont know for sure but it should Feb 01 20:28:34 Great! Then I will buy Sony Ericsson MW600 Feb 01 20:30:19 dude your better off buys a cheap fm reciver and just use the transmitter Feb 01 20:33:15 definity: yeah, the EQ will work with the FM-transmitter, but the sound quality sucks. The SQ sould be a lot better with BlueTooth than FM. I can also change track and answer calls with the MW600 Feb 01 20:35:11 is maemo.org down? Feb 01 20:36:17 getting a blank page when i go to http://maemo.org here Feb 01 20:36:49 dole: good pont! Feb 01 20:37:00 jargon-: same Feb 01 20:37:07 same here Feb 01 20:37:27 the forum is up though; http://talk.maemo.org Feb 01 20:37:28 oddly, http://talk.maemo.org works fine Feb 01 20:37:31 yeah Feb 01 20:38:04 whats the best gps app u guys have come across Feb 01 20:38:46 jargon-: they goes to different servers, thats why the mainpages doesn´t work but the forum works Feb 01 20:38:54 dole: aah i see Feb 01 20:39:55 definity: I think Navteq is the best Feb 01 20:40:05 haven´t tried it though Feb 01 20:42:18 navteq? Feb 01 20:44:21 maybe they only use the maps from Navteq Feb 01 20:44:31 I will look that up, w8 Feb 01 20:47:19 yes, Sygic for N900 use maps from Navteq Feb 01 20:47:27 http://www.sygic.com/en/sygic-mobile-maps-for-nokia-n900-maemo-available-for-purchase Feb 01 20:48:23 sygic is not available Feb 01 20:48:42 you can't buy it Feb 01 20:51:59 ooh. mo blank again? :-P Feb 01 20:55:07 DocScrutinizer: You usually knows everything about n900. So do you know if the EQ from SomePlayer works with BlueTooth headsets? Feb 01 20:55:36 not for sure Feb 01 20:55:45 but I guess it should Feb 01 20:56:08 Ok, good Feb 01 20:56:22 just steal sygic from piratebay Feb 01 20:56:42 then if you are european, pirate the teleatlas maps as well Feb 01 20:58:46 you know Nokia bought some of the map companies when you click on http://www.de.map24.com/ and watch it forwarding you Feb 01 20:59:40 pretty fsckd up here though Feb 01 21:00:01 probably once more "optimized for MIES" as usual with Nokia Feb 01 21:00:05 ou know nokia bought some of the map companies when your atlas is 2 years late and will never be updated. Feb 01 21:02:18 oh yeah, definitely. One more page that is twitter-fsckdup, I.E. shows a mainly blank page in konqueror. Seems Nokia loves blank pages ;-P Feb 01 21:26:21 <[DarkGUNMAN]> ok.. going to give nemo one more go from uboot menu... Feb 01 21:27:35 <[DarkGUNMAN]> based off what i can see in the thread, i have it right except for the kernel entry Feb 01 21:27:41 <[DarkGUNMAN]> ITEM_NAME="MeeGo / Nemo" Feb 01 21:27:58 <[DarkGUNMAN]> ITEM_KERNEL= Feb 01 21:28:18 <[DarkGUNMAN]> ITEM_USEATAG="1" Feb 01 21:28:28 <[DarkGUNMAN]> ITEM_DEVICE="${EXT_CARD}p3" Feb 01 21:28:40 <[DarkGUNMAN]> ITEM_FSTYPE="fat" Feb 01 21:29:00 <[DarkGUNMAN]> ITEM_CMDLINE="root=/dev/mmcblk1p1" Feb 01 21:29:18 wouldn't that have been better for pastebin? Feb 01 21:29:55 <[DarkGUNMAN]> which kernel entry should go there? Feb 01 21:30:07 <[DarkGUNMAN]> yeah maybe :) Feb 01 21:30:59 whatever kernel nemo provides Feb 01 21:31:39 the one that's in /boot Feb 01 21:32:28 <[DarkGUNMAN]> sorry if I don't understand Feb 01 21:33:03 <[DarkGUNMAN]> how do i retrieve the kernel from /boot intop a kernel image file? Feb 01 21:35:51 <[DarkGUNMAN]> or am i providing the name of the kernel file that should be found in \boot: Feb 01 21:35:57 <[DarkGUNMAN]> ? Feb 01 21:39:25 aiui, kernel is provided alongside the image in the download directory. http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/... depending which one u chose. Feb 01 21:40:13 anyway, i'm not too good at this [DarkGUNMAN] . wait for someone else, or join #mer and #nemomobile Feb 01 21:42:52 <[DarkGUNMAN]> thanks for the tip anyway, i've only flashed meego twice and didn't need to get the kernel file last time. Feb 01 21:42:58 <[DarkGUNMAN]> Thank you Feb 01 21:43:54 i could be wrong, i admit. Feb 01 21:44:24 only thing i've done so far is boot debian (even at this very moment ;) via bootmenu. Feb 01 21:58:15 and this method uses whatever kernel maemo is using at that time Feb 01 22:01:27 I still think loading loadint the kernel with the flasher is the least messy method. No modification anywhere and much simpler to do. Feb 01 22:02:09 +1. yeah Feb 01 22:02:13 :) Feb 01 22:15:39 Found an old BlueTooth headset and the EQ works nice! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Feb 02 02:59:57 2012