**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Feb 20 03:00:00 2012
Feb 20 07:49:57 <HaXeri> any ideas how to solder n900 usb cable back
Feb 20 07:50:24 <HaXeri> should I just take it to warranty
Feb 20 07:50:40 <HaXeri> or do they give me some crappy symbian phone as replacement
Feb 20 07:52:44 <Macer> i had a buddy try it ofor me
Feb 20 07:52:44 <Macer> couldnt get it
Feb 20 07:52:52 <Macer> warranty might send you an e7
Feb 20 07:53:04 <Macer> unless you bitch and moan that you want your n900 back
Feb 20 07:53:24 <HaXeri> yeah
Feb 20 07:53:29 <Macer> i wound up just getting a new n900 off ebay
Feb 20 07:53:37 <Macer> for $250
Feb 20 07:53:48 <HaXeri> my n900 cost 120€
Feb 20 07:53:51 <Macer> and kept the old one for parts if necessary
Feb 20 07:54:03 <Macer> thats not bad
Feb 20 07:54:14 <Macer> about 200US?
Feb 20 07:54:24 <Macer> buying one new is expensive
Feb 20 07:54:32 <Macer> i got lucky with my ebay purchase
Feb 20 07:54:38 <HaXeri> but it shouldn't be that bad job to solder the usb back if the warranty wont get me new one
Feb 20 07:54:42 <Macer> it really was a brand new n900
Feb 20 07:54:52 <Macer> these guys will say no
Feb 20 07:54:59 <Macer> from my experience it is
Feb 20 07:55:44 <Macer> for my new one i jusgt got a battery charger and an extra battery to avoid using the port unless i needed to flash
Feb 20 07:55:59 <HaXeri> okay
Feb 20 07:56:17 <Macer> best of luck
Feb 20 07:56:20 <HaXeri> will my battery explode if i try to charge it with my e90 or something
Feb 20 07:56:54 <Macer> does the e90 use a bl-5j?
Feb 20 07:56:58 <HaXeri> yeah
Feb 20 07:57:06 <Macer> then no
Feb 20 07:57:09 <Macer> heh
Feb 20 07:57:16 <HaXeri> so it wont expode or it will?
Feb 20 07:57:25 <Macer> it will not
Feb 20 07:57:32 <Sicelo> :P
Feb 20 07:57:36 <HaXeri> no e90 uses bp-4l
Feb 20 07:57:43 <Macer> oh
Feb 20 07:57:51 <Macer> then i doubt it will even fit
Feb 20 07:58:25 <Macer> you can get a crappy made in china bl-5j chafrger for $5
Feb 20 07:58:29 <Macer> charger
Feb 20 07:58:42 <HaXeri> yeah but i cant wait that long to get it
Feb 20 07:58:45 <Macer> mine was $6Us with a battery
Feb 20 07:59:23 <Macer> dont know what to say. a few guys here say soldering that usb port back on is childs play
Feb 20 07:59:28 <Macer> i had no luck with it
Feb 20 07:59:42 <HaXeri> but it will void your warranty
Feb 20 07:59:49 <Macer> yes
Feb 20 08:00:04 <Macer> but you have to wait on the warranty as well
Feb 20 08:00:15 <Macer> and they will try to force feed you an e7
Feb 20 08:01:21 <Macer> you have to make it perfectly clear you want an n900 back heh
Feb 20 08:01:28 <HaXeri> yup
Feb 20 08:01:33 <Macer> and even then they will fight you about it
Feb 20 08:01:39 <HaXeri> i should call them to be sure of it
Feb 20 08:01:48 <Macer> e7 really isnt a bad phone gho
Feb 20 08:01:51 <Macer> tho
Feb 20 08:02:00 <Macer> it just isnt an n900 ;)
Feb 20 08:02:04 <HaXeri> yeah it isn't that bad
Feb 20 08:02:26 <Macer> i was actually going to buy one just to buy one
Feb 20 08:02:26 <HaXeri> but i cant nmap with it
Feb 20 08:02:37 <Macer> as a spare go out phone
Feb 20 08:02:46 <Macer> true heh
Feb 20 08:02:48 <Macer> cant do a lot with it
Feb 20 08:03:00 <Macer> you probably could if you could dev with symbian
Feb 20 08:03:24 <HaXeri> yeah, symbian nowdays has qt, python etc.
Feb 20 08:03:28 <HaXeri> but i want linux
Feb 20 08:03:33 <Macer> but from what ive heard while it is a great mobile os.. it is difficult to dev with
Feb 20 08:03:44 <Macer> because of the shymbian part
Feb 20 08:04:09 <Macer> symbian has a pretty strong following tho
Feb 20 08:04:25 <Macer> it is like webos.. not a bad os... just overshadowed by android and ios
Feb 20 08:04:31 <Macer> like every other mobile os
Feb 20 08:04:43 <Macer> except for wkindows
Feb 20 08:04:48 <Macer> that os just sucks heh
Feb 20 08:20:38 <dhbiker> Macer: seriously ? E7 ?
Feb 20 08:25:50 <HaXeri> yeees
Feb 20 08:26:15 <HaXeri> they said i could take my phone to local nokia repair
Feb 20 08:26:26 <Macer> dhbiker: yes
Feb 20 08:26:40 <HaXeri> and they will contact me if they plan to change my phone to symbian
Feb 20 08:26:51 <Macer> a few people have complained that nokia keeps trying to push an e7 on them as a replacemrnt for n900s
Feb 20 08:27:03 <Macer> HaXeri: tell them no
Feb 20 08:27:05 <Macer> heh
Feb 20 08:27:14 <HaXeri> yeah
Feb 20 08:27:16 <Macer> say you want a new one or the cash equal to one
Feb 20 08:27:41 <Macer> meaning money payout for the amazon brand new one for $900
Feb 20 08:27:42 <Macer> lol
Feb 20 08:27:49 <Macer> skype sells them too
Feb 20 08:27:53 <Macer> last i checked
Feb 20 08:28:03 <HaXeri> i just say i want nokia n9 or lumia if they cant repair it
Feb 20 08:28:43 <HaXeri> or cash moneys of course
Feb 20 08:29:00 <HaXeri> but price of e7 is equal to n900...
Feb 20 08:29:41 <dhbiker> i rather take N9 
Feb 20 08:29:54 <dhbiker> than any other shitty WP7 or symbian phone
Feb 20 08:30:34 <HaXeri> well i could get bitches if i got lumia as replacement
Feb 20 08:31:56 <dhbiker> so i guess i need to buy a replacement phone just in case
Feb 20 08:32:16 <dhbiker> <.>
Feb 20 09:01:45 <edheldil> HaXeri:  I can tell only from the bus stop ads, but is not Lumia's WP7 UI *ugly* as hell?
Feb 20 11:39:55 <jargon-> how do i block contacts in Conversations to prevent authorization requests from them?
Feb 20 12:33:17 <ankit__> i study cellular network characteristic .....that why i needs the signal strength for USB devices
Feb 20 13:09:21 <vi___> hello
Feb 20 13:09:42 <vi___> who wants to compile the latest version of mplayer with all features as a static binary?
Feb 20 13:10:40 <LaoLang_cool> I want a vim verion 7.3 on maemo...
Feb 20 13:10:58 <vi___> version 7.2 not enough for ya?
Feb 20 13:59:21 <jargon-> how do i block contacts in Conversations to prevent authorization requests from them?
Feb 20 14:26:42 <HaXeri> went to nokia care
Feb 20 14:26:53 <HaXeri> they told me that i'd get a new e7 as replacement
Feb 20 14:27:12 <HaXeri> so i refused and they will ask nokia if they can replace it with n9
Feb 20 15:14:09 <HaXeri> etrunko: dunno about UI, i tested it on local shop and the touch screen was best i've tried
Feb 20 18:19:07 <HaXeri> can i use some random nokia battery on my n900
Feb 20 18:39:41 <beford> bl5j battery
Feb 20 19:57:07 <Gear_> hey
Feb 20 19:57:23 <Gear_> what's the best mapping app?
Feb 20 19:57:36 <Gear_> for turn by turn city applications
Feb 20 19:58:12 <Gear_> voice instructions would be good too, I've tried marble but that doesn't take you straight to the address
Feb 20 19:58:47 <Gear_> mappero does take me to the address, but the instructions are sometimes wrong, and it doesn't speak english
Feb 20 20:52:07 <ethernetic> hi guys
Feb 20 20:52:08 <ethernetic> :)
Feb 20 20:52:30 <beford> hi
Feb 20 20:53:15 <ethernetic> anyone here?
Feb 20 20:53:32 <beford> just 300 users.
Feb 20 20:54:06 <ethernetic> everyone's idling :D
Feb 20 20:54:07 <ethernetic> LOL
Feb 20 20:56:14 <beford> yeah well :P
Feb 20 20:58:53 <lxp1> Pali: i have compiled the wl1251 driver for power49+pre50
Feb 20 21:00:57 <ethernetic> uh
Feb 20 21:01:08 <ethernetic> i hate the close app transition
Feb 20 21:01:49 <Pali> lxp1, thanks!
Feb 20 21:02:25 <Pali> lxp1, do you have scripts/commands for building?
Feb 20 21:02:44 <lxp1> Pali: http://david.gnedt.eu/wl1251/wl1251-maemo-0.2-power49+pre50.tar.gz
Feb 20 21:03:21 <lxp1> but i haven't tested the modules
Feb 20 21:03:33 <Pali> ok
Feb 20 21:04:09 <lxp1> it required some quirks because i use a x86 scratchbox system for compiling
Feb 20 21:04:24 <lxp1> and kernel-power-headers contains some x86-64 executables
Feb 20 21:04:56 <Pali> I'm compiling kernel-power pre versions with madde
Feb 20 21:05:14 <lxp1> i haven't worked with madde so far
Feb 20 21:05:21 <Pali> and my system is 64bit - so maybe some tools is not compiled with cross compiler
Feb 20 21:05:29 <Pali> but for kernel is not madded needed
Feb 20 21:05:35 <Pali> only cross compiler
Feb 20 21:05:51 <Pali> (for creating deb package is madde or scratchbox needed)
Feb 20 21:07:51 <lxp1> the new modules also contain 2 additional patches
Feb 20 21:08:50 <lxp1> the first patch adds the netlink interface for loading the calibration data
Feb 20 21:09:27 <lxp1> and the second fixes a issue with packet statistics in monitor mode
Feb 20 21:09:35 <kwtm> Hi! Need urgent help - am in a hotel with 30 minutes to go before I catch a flight. If I want my n900 to act as an Internet access point, what linux package (Ubuntu in my case) should I be googling for/installing?
Feb 20 21:10:05 <kwtm> I.e. I will have no Internet access in the place, but I want my wife's iPad to be able to see my n900 as an access point and connect to it (maybe thinking it's a router or ISP).  It's not DHCPd that I'm looking for, is it?
Feb 20 21:12:45 <ShadowJK> mobile hotspot
Feb 20 21:14:01 <ShadowJK> as it modifies things critical in starting up n900, I recommend making backup before installing
Feb 20 21:15:25 <DocScrutinizer> now if you ask "how can I do a backup?" - install backupmenu
Feb 20 21:17:05 <DocScrutinizer> I don't get the "linux package (Ubuntu in my case)" part, though
Feb 20 21:17:19 <DocScrutinizer> ShadowJK and me are talking about N900 apps
Feb 20 21:19:25 <kwtm> ShadowJK: Thx, will look up the name of the package and install.  Hmmm.. sounds a bit risky if I'm relying on my n900 during travel ...
Feb 20 21:20:15 <kwtm> ShadowJK: How can I download the package (from root command line) without installing, and then later decide whether to isntall during a time when I don't have Internet?
Feb 20 21:23:19 <DocScrutinizer> http://maemo.org/packages/view/mobilehotspot/
Feb 20 21:25:33 <DocScrutinizer> apt-get install -d mobilehotspot
Feb 20 21:25:44 <DocScrutinizer>   -d  Download only - do NOT install or unpack archives
Feb 20 21:26:57 <DocScrutinizer> nota bene it needs powerkernel, and you should check if above command gets those pkgs as well (I think it has to be three of them: PK, PK-modules, PK-flasher. Sth like that)
Feb 20 21:27:22 <lxp1> Pali: should i also upload the compat-wireless and wireless-testing repositories i use for building the driver?
Feb 20 21:27:44 <DocScrutinizer> kernel-power - Flashable Linux kernel (kernel power 2.6.28.10)
Feb 20 21:27:45 <DocScrutinizer> kernel-power-modules - Linux kernel modules for kernel power 2.6.28.10
Feb 20 21:27:47 <DocScrutinizer> kernel-power-flasher - Linux kernel updater (kernel power 2.6.28.10)
Feb 20 21:29:01 <Pali> lxp1, upload full source code tree
Feb 20 21:47:07 <DocScrutinizer> well, I'm not an expert, but could you try to use git when doing kernel hacking?
Feb 20 21:50:27 <DocScrutinizer> >>batterypatch-for-unstable - BatteryPatch For unstable devices<< LOL, sounds about right ;-P
Feb 20 23:16:39 <chem|st> X-Fade: your looking after repos right? karam asked about profile links http://maemo.org/packages/view/task-swapper/ shows two different profiles linked in description and stages list
Feb 21 02:29:52 <EdLin> remember that Nokia N900 for $199 refurbished I was looking at on expansys? Literally within days of seeing it they sold it out, and now have it listed as "discontinued". :-(
Feb 21 02:30:59 <EdLin> now all I have left are used ones to get, or allegedly new ones from that Hong Kong dealer on eBay.
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