**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 21 02:59:58 2012 Feb 21 03:48:10 how can I check the credentials of an account I'm adding with telepathy before adding it Feb 21 04:47:53 can I connect my n900 (which is connected to wifi) as a internet connection for my mac using either bluetooth or usb networking option? how do i do this ? Feb 21 05:01:38 your mac has no wifi? Feb 21 05:02:04 looks like it is possible www.google.com/search?q=n900+tethering Feb 21 05:04:18 ya my mac wifi is broken.. but bluetooth is working fine.. so i want use n900 to connect to my wifi and then using n900's bluetooth, i will connect my mac to internet Feb 21 05:24:39 tank-man: thank you for the link provided... I will give it a try and check. thank you Feb 21 05:25:05 it was just a generic google link, thank google Feb 21 05:25:43 :) Feb 21 09:11:03 maemo is alive? Feb 21 09:17:50 can't to open http://maemo.org/ Feb 21 09:20:14 well I can't open google. Feb 21 09:21:41 maemo is shutdown? Feb 21 09:22:46 oh hey, now i get both google.com and maemo.org Feb 21 09:23:00 or, well,as far as on both Feb 21 09:24:40 <ShadowJK> http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/maemo.org Feb 21 09:26:17 <warhead> ShadowJK, You are not funy Feb 21 09:26:40 <ShadowJK> I'm not trying to be. Feb 21 09:27:04 * RST38h moos at ShadowJK Feb 21 09:27:06 <RST38h> mourning Feb 21 09:27:26 <ShadowJK> morn Feb 21 09:37:28 <chem|st> o/ DocScrutinizer Feb 21 09:37:40 <chem|st> hey folks Feb 21 09:38:34 <chem|st> anyone an idea on the profile links karam asked me about (package view at p.m.o Feb 21 09:41:34 * chem|st thinks its an account issue... Feb 21 13:24:03 <louisdk> Hi. My N900 only last about 6-9 hours at this moment. The battery is about a year old and the phone has some extra software installed. Also the mic is quite silent maybe because I dropped it on the floor a few times. What would you recommend me to do? I don't like the N9 do to lack of keyboard nor Android. Feb 21 13:25:04 <Sicelo> buy new battery. get mic fixed Feb 21 13:25:05 <Sicelo> :/ Feb 21 13:26:21 <louisdk> Hmm. How long time does your N900 last btw? Feb 21 13:26:27 <Sicelo> i know for sure i'll nurse my N900 until it completely disintegrates Feb 21 13:26:38 <Sicelo> heh Feb 21 13:27:00 <Sicelo> depends on usage.. i charge every night usually Feb 21 13:27:18 <Sicelo> and it hasn't finished a year, lol Feb 21 13:27:55 <Sicelo> but then i've always needed to charge my phones daily ... too much use, i assume. Feb 21 13:30:28 <Sicelo> longest my n900 battery has lasted so far is 3 1/2 days Feb 21 13:33:00 <louisdk> I'm wondering if I should buy the N9 or just get a secondary dumb phone for when I go out... Feb 21 13:33:20 <Sicelo> entirely up to you Feb 21 13:33:21 <DocScrutinizer51> longest was ovewr a week, on dev device, idle on wlan Feb 21 13:33:41 <DocScrutinizer51> longest was over a week, on dev device, idle on wlan Feb 21 13:33:57 <RST38h> get an iPhone, Sicelo Feb 21 13:34:00 * Sicelo sneaks into DocScrutinizer51's house... to steal his batter Feb 21 13:34:12 <Sicelo> lol RST38h. Feb 21 13:35:57 <Sicelo> RST38h: i've never used any apple product, and won't start any time soon. 'sides, my N900 is the best thing i ever owned, yet Feb 21 13:51:14 <louisdk> Sicelo: You're so right. Feb 21 14:06:21 <crashanddie> fanboys fanboys, what'cha gonna do when they don't hack you Feb 21 14:09:28 <Sicelo> :P Feb 21 14:10:43 <Sicelo> for me, at least, this was the first time i got hold of a device u can boot other OSes on. iPhone and Android don't seem to satisfy my requirements Feb 21 14:24:14 <louisdk> I've made some video recoardings to test the mic. When using the build in mic the sound is quite low but when I use the external headset that came with my phone I can easily hear myself. This seems pretty strange to me. Feb 21 14:27:44 <louisdk> Well. I'll take a look at alsamixer ;) Feb 21 15:41:51 <HaXeri> my face when E7 is actually cheaper than N900 on Ebay (UK, new phone) Feb 21 15:42:35 <HaXeri> I should just sell it and buy a replacement battery for E90 Feb 21 15:43:14 <int_ua> What is the best place to put oversized attachment for a bug report? Feb 21 15:43:30 <int_ua> hildon-desktop core dump is over 9000 KB Feb 21 15:48:09 <int_ua> anyone? I'm about to leave and I want to finish this report ASAP Feb 21 15:52:31 <int_ua> Any experienced bug reporter present? Feb 21 15:55:38 <StyXman> int_ua: 9MiB doesn´t look like too much Feb 21 15:56:00 <StyXman> but I never used maemo's BTS Feb 21 15:56:02 <int_ua> bugs.maemo.org refused to attach it Feb 21 15:56:37 <int_ua> StyXman: can you suggest any place? Feb 21 15:57:32 <int_ua> I'm not sure about file sharing services Feb 21 15:58:12 <int_ua> They look like inappropriate for such situation. Feb 21 15:58:35 <StyXman> hmm Feb 21 15:59:07 <int_ua> and I'm just out of ideas :( Feb 21 15:59:18 <StyXman> I don't think you have much alternative, unless you have write access to a web server Feb 21 15:59:32 <StyXman> many alternatives* Feb 21 16:09:50 <x29a> int_ua: can you split it? Feb 21 16:09:56 <x29a> zip? Feb 21 16:11:42 <int_ua> x29a: it's already compressed. And it would be ten parts to fit into 1000KB limit Feb 21 16:11:50 <x29a> urg Feb 21 16:14:27 <int_ua> checking file sharing services... Feb 21 16:15:41 <int_ua> bzip made it 7.7Mb, but that's no defference Feb 21 16:22:56 <int_ua> and fileshares just ignore file selection( Feb 21 16:23:24 <int_ua> (I'm trying it from my N900) Feb 21 16:31:10 <int_ua> ok, found one. Thanks, StyXman and x29a Feb 21 17:32:10 <z4chh> will maemo be doing google summer of code 2012? Feb 21 17:33:27 <NIN101> I don't know - but I doubt it. Feb 21 17:34:46 <DocScrutinizer51> who's maemo? Feb 21 17:36:24 <NIN101> We are maemo! Feb 21 17:36:56 <DocScrutinizer51> are "we" doing anything (entity)? Feb 21 17:37:34 <DocScrutinizer51> except being maemo and hanging out here Feb 21 17:37:38 <DocScrutinizer51> :-D Feb 21 17:39:22 <Cor-Ai> being awsome? Feb 21 17:39:28 <NIN101> my point was nokia abandoned maemo, so I really doubt it will be present in gsoc. Feb 21 17:40:32 <DocScrutinizer51> that's exactly my point as well Feb 21 17:42:21 <DocScrutinizer51> ShadowJK: ping Feb 21 17:42:39 <StyXman> it doesn´t mean maemo can´t do anything in GSoC, but somebody has to organize it :| Feb 21 17:43:15 <DocScrutinizer51> ShadowJK: thuis biti-media shop seems to be :-( Feb 21 17:45:18 <DocScrutinizer51> the offer is marked 'special offer' and in their TOS they say 'special offer means used product' Feb 21 17:45:51 <DocScrutinizer51> googling revealed nasty reports about that seller Feb 21 17:59:38 <ruskie> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/02/21/ubuntu_for_android/ Feb 21 18:20:58 <Tofe> Hi Feb 21 18:39:10 <Timmy> how can i share wireless connection of maemo with my pc ? Feb 21 18:39:32 <HaXeri> what phone you haves? Feb 21 18:40:04 <Timmy> n900 Feb 21 18:40:41 <HaXeri> what os yu have on compuber Feb 21 18:40:48 <Timmy> debian Feb 21 18:41:11 <HaXeri> just connect phone to your computer with usb cable and turn pc suite mode on from phone Feb 21 18:41:36 <HaXeri> and network manager should pop up a window for choosing your operator etc Feb 21 18:41:55 <Timmy> probably you don't understand what i am saying, im not going to share the gprs or 3g connection, i said wifi Feb 21 18:42:39 <HaXeri> just connect your n900 so same wlan as your computer dumbass q:DD Feb 21 18:43:25 <Timmy> becarefull about the language you are using Feb 21 18:45:54 <Cor-Ai> but if that was what you wanted then you are an dumbass :P Feb 21 18:47:08 <Timmy> there is a mother fucker wireless accesspoint here, i want to connect my n900 to it and share the fucken internet with my computer, can u get what the fuck im talking about? Feb 21 18:48:53 <mgedmin> Timmy, you need a non-standard kernel if you want the n900 to do NAT for you Feb 21 18:49:02 <mgedmin> or you can use OpenSSH's built-in SOCKS support Feb 21 18:49:21 <mgedmin> connect a cable, pick 'Nokia PC Suite', I think, that will enable usbnet Feb 21 18:49:41 <psycho_oreos> Timmy, http://myn900.wordpress.com/2010/08/29/tether-n900s-wifi-connection-via-usb/ Feb 21 18:52:10 <ShadowJK> DocScrutinizer / DocScrutinizer51 ; seemed to good to be true really Feb 21 18:52:39 <DocScrutinizer> somewhat, yeah Feb 21 18:52:59 <DocScrutinizer> now the more I wonder how bad that HK seller might be Feb 21 18:54:04 <DocScrutinizer> I'd even forget about seller's warranty, as long as they don't send a brick for those 250 USD Feb 21 18:54:33 <DocScrutinizer> hmm, back to the Czech connection then? Feb 21 18:56:44 <DocScrutinizer> I'll try a completely different approach: drop by at a @K shop and ask them to get 2 devices for me. Let's see what they tell me Feb 21 18:57:16 <DocScrutinizer> @KA ? Feb 21 18:58:13 <Timmy> psycho_oreos: shit, that was a fucking article Feb 21 18:58:24 <Timmy> i mean it was awesome Feb 21 19:04:13 <DocScrutinizer> I'm tending to +q somebody soon Feb 21 19:04:46 <DocScrutinizer> Timmy: no, you did NOT say WIFI, you said "wireless connection" Feb 21 19:06:01 <DocScrutinizer> and honestly, N900 is a poor WLAN dongle Feb 21 19:06:18 <DocScrutinizer> better get a WIFI USB stick for some 10 bucks Feb 21 19:06:41 <DocScrutinizer> if your computer doesn't have any built-in WLAN Feb 21 19:07:45 <DocScrutinizer> esp since N900 WLAN module isn't notorious for excellent bandwidth and flawless powersaving mode Feb 21 19:09:58 <DocScrutinizer> and you probably would want to use USB rather less frequently, actually only if there's no better alternative at all, given USB receptacle is the #1 single point of damage/failure of N900 and usually results in a device brolken beyond reasonable repair Feb 21 19:10:32 <Cor-Ai> :'( Feb 21 19:10:59 <Cor-Ai> I miss my n900 *sobs* Feb 21 19:11:08 <DocScrutinizer> borked USB? Feb 21 19:11:21 <Cor-Ai> mhmm :/ Feb 21 19:11:33 <Cor-Ai> im looking for a new Feb 21 19:11:43 <Cor-Ai> USB on ebay but tight budget Feb 21 19:12:01 <DocScrutinizer> new USB? Feb 21 19:12:20 <Cor-Ai> yeah, to attache to my device :P Feb 21 19:12:21 <DocScrutinizer> sorry you lost me Feb 21 19:12:35 <DocScrutinizer> ooh, a spare receptacle component? Feb 21 19:12:51 <Cor-Ai> yeah! sorry for my bad eng :/ Feb 21 19:12:56 <DocScrutinizer> np Feb 21 19:13:28 <DocScrutinizer> those shouldn't be too expensive Feb 21 19:13:42 <DocScrutinizer> I think I've seen them for like 2..3 bucks Feb 21 19:13:45 <DocScrutinizer> on ebay Feb 21 19:14:13 <DocScrutinizer> is your budget THAT tight? Feb 21 19:14:40 <Cor-Ai> i i know.. im blaming my budget but realy its im to lazy :P Feb 21 19:14:48 <DocScrutinizer> hah Feb 21 19:15:52 <Cor-Ai> to lazy to get an ebay account.. damn im lazy these days.. well well Feb 21 20:20:30 * ShadowJK yawns Feb 21 20:21:32 <ShadowJK> 732/1152 mAh at end of day. 4 hours podcasts, idling on irc (2 hours on 3g accidentally) Feb 21 20:21:41 <ShadowJK> who said N900 batterylife sucks? :) Feb 21 20:31:15 <Sicelo> wow! Feb 21 20:32:13 <Sicelo> podcasts .. streaming them, or replaying previously downloaded ones? Feb 21 20:32:17 <DocScrutinizer> wow? normal! Feb 21 20:35:01 <ShadowJK> I downloaded while still on charger before leaving Feb 21 20:35:54 <ShadowJK> My operator called me a few weeks ago trying to sell me mobile broadband, saying the network in my area has been upgraded Feb 21 20:36:00 <Sicelo> ok :) Feb 21 20:36:30 <ShadowJK> since then it feels like network traffic hasn't used as much battery :P Feb 21 20:37:30 <Sicelo> indeed.. i was about to comment that one of the biggest problems i have (which impact negatively on my battery use, N900 or any other phone) is that my operator sucks Feb 21 20:37:41 <Sicelo> that's what you get when there's no competition :( Feb 21 20:47:28 * ShadowJK was also using his powersaving irc bouncer/firewall script :P Feb 21 20:49:44 <Sicelo> cheating! lol Feb 21 20:50:28 * timeless discovers that there's an os update from 20.* to 21.* Feb 21 20:50:39 <timeless> DocScrutinizer: has anyone analyzed the update? :) Feb 21 20:53:24 <Sicelo> yeah.. 3 packages updated, iirc, to correct Diginotar certificate issues Feb 21 20:56:52 <ShadowJK> yep Feb 21 21:11:49 <NsaneN900> hey dudes =D Feb 21 21:12:21 <NsaneN900> currently hospitalised and bored ass hell so was trying to intstall starcraft on my n900 Feb 21 21:12:37 <NsaneN900> but have to extract files form the iso file Feb 21 21:13:02 <NsaneN900> file roller didnt work Feb 21 21:13:18 <NsaneN900> any ideas? Feb 21 21:14:36 <MohammadAG> If you have kernel power you could modprobe isofs and try to mount it Feb 21 21:16:17 <NsaneN900> yeah have power kernel =) Feb 21 21:20:04 <NsaneN900> does power kernel include iso9660 Feb 21 21:20:06 <NsaneN900> ? Feb 21 21:25:11 <DocScrutinizer> not always :-/ Feb 21 21:25:18 <Pali> NsaneN900, unpack ISO image on computer Feb 21 21:25:38 <DocScrutinizer> indeed Feb 21 21:25:48 <Pali> and then copy install.exe file to MyDocs/Starcraft Feb 21 21:26:00 <Pali> (if I remember correctly) Feb 21 21:26:28 <Pali> in some TMO thread is written steps Feb 21 21:27:23 <Pali> NsaneN900, instructions are here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=67466 Feb 21 21:28:26 <NsaneN900> pali, im in hospital Feb 21 21:28:34 <NsaneN900> no computer Feb 21 21:28:36 <NsaneN900> =( Feb 21 21:28:50 <NsaneN900> but nvm Feb 21 21:29:03 <NsaneN900> looks like xarchiver is working=) Feb 21 21:29:39 <Pali> in last kernel power is isofs.ko Feb 21 21:29:53 <Pali> so mount could be also possible Feb 21 21:29:58 <DocScrutinizer> NsaneN900: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=65232 :: >> LATEST NEWS: there are missing modules in powerkernel46. See http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...219#post971219 - we're aware now and working on it. Shall be fixed in recent PK48 (which is said to work http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=861 ). For PK47 see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...91#post1116491 - thanks blue_led :-) << Feb 21 21:32:07 <Pali> I enabled some modules for cdrom support in pre50 (they are in kernel-power-modules package) Feb 21 21:32:22 <NsaneN900> Nice =D Feb 21 21:32:27 <Pali> But I do not know if it is working now Feb 21 21:32:41 <NsaneN900> but im using 49 Feb 21 21:33:10 <Pali> so then let me know if mounting iso is working or not Feb 21 21:42:53 <lxp> Pali: here is the source http://david.gnedt.eu/wl1251/wl1251-maemo-0.2-source.tar.gz Feb 21 21:43:27 <Pali> lxp, thanks! Feb 21 21:44:07 <Pali> lxp, do you work on some integrations with kernel-power build process? Feb 21 21:44:57 <Pali> ok, now I unpacked and I see build-wl.sh script Feb 21 21:45:28 <lxp> Pali: i also have a deb packaging for compat-wireless Feb 21 21:45:37 <lxp> but it isn't finished Feb 21 21:46:04 <Pali> ok Feb 21 21:48:20 <lxp> Pali: i haven't tested the build-wl.sh, but it is derived from a script i used before Feb 21 21:48:24 <lxp> i hope it contains no errors Feb 21 21:48:52 <Pali> lxp, my idea is to create deb package which will have only source tarballs (push and update in extras-devel) and kernel-power dsc will depend on this package Feb 21 21:49:52 <Pali> so when kernel-power will be compiled it will also compile that wl1251 + other wireless modules for current kernel-power version Feb 21 21:50:21 <Pali> and that modules will be in separate deb package (but builded by one dsc package) Feb 21 21:50:33 <DocScrutinizer> FFS what's git for? Feb 21 21:51:05 <Pali> I will test script build-wl.sh later Feb 21 21:59:08 <lxp> Pali: ah ok, my current package has a build-dependency on kernel-power and source packages are created from the git repositories Feb 21 22:00:16 <lxp> the compat-wireless admin scripts require git repositories to work... that was also the problem with the source i bundled with 0.1 Feb 21 22:04:23 <DocScrutinizer> I think the problem is powerkernel is NOT in git Feb 21 22:05:24 * DocScrutinizer idly wonders if PK47 modules would work with PK49/50, when modprobe knew/knows -f Feb 21 22:05:58 <DocScrutinizer> as long as nothing basic has changed.... Feb 21 22:06:27 <DocScrutinizer> ...then why should a PK47 module not work under PK49? Feb 21 22:06:48 <Pali> packet injection drivers which worked in v47, v48, v49 does not work in pre50 (after mesh was disabled) Feb 21 22:07:12 <DocScrutinizer> hmm, that's "something changed" for sure Feb 21 22:07:52 <DocScrutinizer> D'OH Feb 21 22:08:21 * DocScrutinizer recalls his daily phone runs with some mod'o'fied WLAN drivers since months Feb 21 22:08:47 <DocScrutinizer> :-o Feb 21 22:09:05 <DocScrutinizer> I played guinea pig for CSSU Feb 21 22:10:00 <DocScrutinizer> or dang, that's for sure not been the driver.. meh can't recall it anymore Feb 21 22:16:10 <merlin1991> DocScrutinizer: was some other deamon Feb 21 22:16:13 <merlin1991> not the driver Feb 21 22:16:18 <merlin1991> though wireless related Feb 21 23:44:43 <trumee> ~ping Feb 21 23:44:43 <infobot> ~pong Feb 22 00:59:30 <Guest99557> I'd like to streamline my repos. Can someone share a link of available repos? I feel sure I have some I don't need whilst others I do but perhaps aren't the latest for my build (Maemo 5 on N900 version 20.2010.36-2.002) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Feb 22 02:59:58 2012