**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 01 02:59:59 2012 Mar 01 06:44:38 <[DarkGUNMAN]> morning all Mar 01 06:45:49 <[DarkGUNMAN]> quick question if anyone is up at this god forsaken hour.. Mar 01 06:46:22 <[DarkGUNMAN]> is there a way to edit/ deduct from the gprs counter? Mar 01 06:47:30 <[DarkGUNMAN]> I need to keep accurate information while I ping vodafone's network as a 3.5G keep alive, and take it out of my data counter Mar 01 06:47:57 <[DarkGUNMAN]> it seems they do not register 300byte ping packets as transferred data Mar 01 06:48:14 <[DarkGUNMAN]> so i need to take it out of the data counter on each ping Mar 01 06:55:35 morning [DarkGUNMAN] Mar 01 06:56:02 <[DarkGUNMAN]> hello DocScrutinizer Mar 01 06:56:49 <[DarkGUNMAN]> any ideas on how to edit the gprs counter values? Mar 01 06:56:50 [DarkGUNMAN]: IIRC the counters are stored in gconf keys Mar 01 06:57:07 gconftool -R /|less Mar 01 06:57:38 then search for maybe first 4 digits of your counter, or any good "buzzword" Mar 01 06:58:46 or do gconftool -R / >before.txt. Then make counter increase some kb, then >after.txt. Then diff before.txt after.txt Mar 01 06:58:47 <[DarkGUNMAN]> gconftool -R /|less. Thank you I will give it a try in my keep alive script. Mar 01 06:59:08 <[DarkGUNMAN]> thank you very much Mar 01 06:59:12 yw Mar 01 07:00:12 <[DarkGUNMAN]> it's needed. vodafone are crap once the data connection is dropped. need to force it open to have a relable service Mar 01 07:01:26 you know that will cut thru your battery in no time - esp on 3G. Also the data connection should stay up unless you got some autodisconnect tool installed Mar 01 07:02:39 <[DarkGUNMAN]> it does eat the battery, but it is only for short periods Mar 01 07:03:00 and for all *I* know they don't miss 300byte pkgs, rather they round up to 10kb chunks for each minute that had any data transmission Mar 01 07:03:20 <[DarkGUNMAN]> if you load a page it can take up to a minute before you get 3.5g again and load the page Mar 01 07:03:38 so it drops to 3G meanwhile? Mar 01 07:03:44 that's 'normal' Mar 01 07:03:59 <[DarkGUNMAN]> i checked the data counter against the record on my usage page. big difference Mar 01 07:04:32 it's however not normal if it's completely losing connectivity (the weird circular icon in system status) Mar 01 07:05:13 yeah, usually big difference, but never the local counter is higher than theirs Mar 01 07:05:24 <[DarkGUNMAN]> sits in 3g while idling. the mast gives the best speed and will only talk if 3.5 is negotiated. happens when in the city near an overcrowded tower Mar 01 07:05:48 <[DarkGUNMAN]> local counter is higher since i ping a source that does not reply Mar 01 07:06:24 3.5G indicator only is based on TX/RX dataspeed (basicaly), that'S why there's no way to tell it's 3.5G while no data being transmitted Mar 01 07:07:13 so 3.5G "dropping" to 3G on short periods of idle is absolutely normal and doesn't really mean a thing Mar 01 07:08:40 and yes, the additional slots assigned to you for HSPA speed aka 3.5G are allocated/granted based on availability Mar 01 07:09:53 <[DarkGUNMAN]> when busy the availability isn't there, so it has a long delay or requires at least one retry Mar 01 07:09:54 so on a crowded BTS / nodeB you frequently see 3.5G not working and only 3G speed possible, though both MT and BTS could do HSPA Mar 01 07:10:35 you tried 2G? Mar 01 07:10:42 <[DarkGUNMAN]> vodafone themselves said there is a problem and suggested switching to 2G Mar 01 07:10:44 it's WAAAY better in that regard Mar 01 07:10:54 <[DarkGUNMAN]> true Mar 01 07:12:18 actually a proper 2G/3G switcher daemon would be a mad useful thing. I'm not up to date if there's already sth available Mar 01 07:12:35 not useful for you actually, with that recent 3.5G problem Mar 01 07:13:05 but I ought to finally do the fancy and check what's available Mar 01 07:13:26 autoswitch to 3G whenever I open browser, maybe Mar 01 07:13:41 as for everything else I prefer 2G a lot Mar 01 07:13:50 batery life * 8 Mar 01 07:14:15 shorter latency (though not that terrible on 3G as yours, here) Mar 01 07:16:06 <[DarkGUNMAN]> i tend to switch to 2G for most of the day Mar 01 07:16:39 <[DarkGUNMAN]> but when i need to do online banking or something like that i need 3G Mar 01 07:16:53 <[DarkGUNMAN]> so i have to 'keep the door wedged open' Mar 01 07:17:15 <[DarkGUNMAN]> or get lots of page cant be displayed messages Mar 01 07:17:47 indeed I missed to post that sequel on my battery usage story: Yesterday I had to switch to 3G at work, as 2G didn't offer DHCP or was borked some other way. The usual usage pattern (xchat with 9 freenode channels) cut tru 75% of battery in just 4h Mar 01 07:18:21 so that's where the factor 8 in my prev post originates from Mar 01 07:18:50 [DarkGUNMAN]: yup, same here Mar 01 07:19:16 (modulo the massive problems with 3G) Mar 01 07:19:38 <[DarkGUNMAN]> yep. it gets heavy. thankfully i have opera mini working like a charm thanks to PhoneME Mar 01 07:19:49 <[DarkGUNMAN]> makes 2g workable Mar 01 07:20:22 well, I hope you can spot the gconf key - otherwise ping me again in 10h Mar 01 07:20:41 <[DarkGUNMAN]> gconftool -r /system/osso/connectivity/network_type/GPRS/gprs_home_rx_bytes Mar 01 07:20:50 :-D Mar 01 07:21:24 <[DarkGUNMAN]> now. how do i change the value? Mar 01 07:21:35 gconftool again Mar 01 07:21:58 I'd not bother to interface to gconf directly Mar 01 07:22:46 <[DarkGUNMAN]> ok. I will do some tests and post the results up later Mar 01 07:24:22 if there's some weird problem, consider to find out the process that writes new values to that key. It might not re-read the values you changed, so might need a kill -SIGHUP or even shutdown prior to, and restart after you changed the value Mar 01 07:24:50 or maybe not and you get away with simply writing new value there during runtime of that service Mar 01 07:27:18 a lot of services work like that: write frequently to update values - in case you segfault or battery gets yanked - but only *read* once during startup, then keep current value in RAM Mar 01 07:27:36 <[DarkGUNMAN]> well, messing with gconf values is all new to me so I'll enjoy the learning experience Mar 01 07:28:13 this is not exactly a gconf thing. You see exactly same behaviour and "problem" with config files as well Mar 01 07:28:37 <[DarkGUNMAN]> it keeps updating the value. I have a script on the homescreen which reads this value. I'm still waking up and forgot it was a in a qbw on the desktop Mar 01 07:29:16 <[DarkGUNMAN]> so it reads the value when i refresh the scfeen Mar 01 07:29:31 sure it keeps updating. The question however is if it keeps *reading* Mar 01 07:29:56 (it == the service that updates) Mar 01 07:30:12 * DocScrutinizer waves Mar 01 07:30:20 daywork calling Mar 01 07:40:13 <[DarkGUNMAN]> its working Mar 01 07:40:27 <[DarkGUNMAN]> i have the vlaues and can add/remove as necessary Mar 01 07:40:46 <[DarkGUNMAN]> thank you for your help DocScrutinizer Mar 01 07:41:09 <[DarkGUNMAN]> sorry i am now at work, had to do a quick job Mar 01 07:41:58 YW Mar 01 07:42:32 <[DarkGUNMAN]> i'll post a complete keep alive script on talk.maemo.org later Mar 01 07:42:49 <[DarkGUNMAN]> or maybe a pastebin link here once it's done Mar 01 07:43:56 nice Mar 01 07:46:00 hello Mar 01 07:46:22 nice? Mar 01 07:48:15 <[DarkGUNMAN]> previous conversation randoom. nevermind Mar 01 09:20:42 whats with TMO? Mar 01 10:08:52 down, again... is that like 2nd time this week? Mar 01 11:46:50 what's the point of having wine in the armel repositories...? Mar 01 11:46:59 haha Mar 01 11:47:15 stumbled upon it when I searched for a GB emu Mar 01 11:47:19 wince? Mar 01 11:47:25 hmm Mar 01 11:47:27 Someone wanted to play iwbtg on Beyond impossible Mar 01 11:47:27 I'm unsure if that works - I suspect not Mar 01 11:47:30 good point Mar 01 11:47:37 but will that work? Mar 01 11:48:05 It won't work for x86 windows. Mar 01 11:48:17 that's my point Mar 01 11:48:19 I'm unsure it'll work for wince stuff - it'd have to be a special project I'd think Mar 01 11:48:27 was reading something about that these few days on tmo Mar 01 11:48:51 i'm playing with wine + x86 binary now actually. Mar 01 11:48:54 the only thing available using wine on armel is wine's own things I guess, whatever you would want it for Mar 01 11:50:12 You could use wine + qemu Mar 01 11:50:19 But that would be x86 wine Mar 01 11:50:49 that's what i'm using now Mar 01 11:51:04 Ok, but then I would still not really use wine in the armel repositories, would I? :P Mar 01 11:51:48 pigeon: is it possible to run iwbtg? That would be awesome Mar 01 11:51:57 http://kayin.pyoko.org/iwbtg/ Mar 01 11:52:04 i wanna be the guy..? Mar 01 11:52:23 * FIQ|n900 wants VVVVVV running :D Mar 01 11:52:43 i could give that a try i guess, though i think i'll run into problems. Mar 01 11:52:54 pigeon: me too Mar 01 11:53:37 i haven't actually tried any pure x86 windows binary yet myself, but a few libwine x86 windows runs, like the notepad and winemine Mar 01 11:53:54 haha Mar 01 11:54:10 my interest is playing with vst actually, just got fst running a bit, still trying. Mar 01 11:54:13 actually the flash version of that thing works fine, but slow, having the 2.1 version compiled for ARM would probably be a bit faster Mar 01 11:54:19 So I suppose for the case of windows only stuff for which you have source, and it will build on arm... Mar 01 11:56:41 the other thing is i'm using wine 0.9.14, which is like 6 years old now Mar 01 12:02:17 you must be kidding... the text focus problem I had when running wine through SSH (from desktop) is there on the native wine as well! Mar 01 12:02:41 tried "/opt/wine/wine notepad" just for fun, and the input doesn't work properly :P Mar 01 12:04:13 talk.maemo down? Mar 01 12:04:58 heh Mar 01 12:05:21 tgalal: yeah Mar 01 12:07:16 you can always ask http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ :P Mar 01 13:23:48 just here, or global? talk.maemo.org unavailable Mar 01 13:25:34 http://www.isup.me/talk.maemo.org Mar 01 13:26:01 jap, tnx Mar 01 13:32:49 tmo dead? Mar 01 13:35:18 yep Mar 01 13:43:55 Hi, which rom have a working Email application? My Email can't work anymore even after reflashing Mar 01 13:48:05 LiraNuna: I use the official rom for PR1.3, no mail problems Mar 01 13:53:16 gormux: I can't run the email app at all even a newly reflashing maemo :( Mar 01 13:53:37 I have any clue what's wrong with it Mar 01 13:53:43 have no any clue Mar 01 13:54:52 the app does not open ? Mar 01 13:55:24 gormux: yes Mar 01 13:56:09 hum, strange Mar 01 13:56:13 I can't recall the error it says, my n900 is updating to cssu version Mar 01 13:56:14 is it the only one ? Mar 01 13:56:30 all updates are done ? Mar 01 13:56:32 another one is the "My nokia" in setting Mar 01 13:56:47 others are ok Mar 01 13:56:57 Meanwhile: The Specter of Gasoline At $5 a Gallon Mar 01 13:56:59 gormux: no, a newly reflashing, no any update Mar 01 13:57:21 but I'm updating it to cssu testing version now :) Mar 01 13:57:21 strange Mar 01 13:57:34 it could solve the problem ;) Mar 01 13:57:51 gormux: no, I've tried it before Mar 01 13:58:36 I reinstalled everything a few days ago, and no pb Mar 01 13:59:16 gormux: could it be a hardware problem? Mar 01 13:59:44 I reinstalled several times, no success at all Mar 01 14:00:05 I will test after update is done Mar 01 14:01:58 can't be hardware, lol Mar 01 14:02:31 are you sure you're not rushing things when opening mail application? it can be quite slow to open at times Mar 01 14:02:48 Internal error, application "Email" closed Mar 01 14:03:06 The error says Mar 01 14:03:37 weird.. but i recognize your nick - you've had your device for a while :/ Mar 01 14:03:56 Settings -> My Nokia will let the error internal error, application "settings" closed Mar 01 14:03:57 so, i'd ask: you use overcloking? or did for a while? Mar 01 14:04:46 Sicelo: I reflash n900 using the latest offical rom, which is ....36, I can't remember the number excisely.. Mar 01 14:05:15 No any overcloking Mar 01 14:05:27 I feel weird too Mar 01 14:05:58 if hardware, it could be emmc, but i'd say we don't have enough info to suspect it yet Mar 01 14:06:23 problem is only with MyNokia and Mail? Mar 01 14:06:41 Sicelo: yes Mar 01 14:07:14 lol, you're first person i know who wants to use MyNokia (whatever it is) Mar 01 14:07:33 Sicelo: I just want to see what it is... Mar 01 14:07:45 But it leads the settings closed Mar 01 14:09:54 The files I reflashed is RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin and RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2.002_PR_COMBINED_002_ARM.bin Mar 01 14:10:01 From the nokia offical site Mar 01 14:10:17 It says they are the latest version Mar 01 14:10:26 and you do it in the order recommended here: Mar 01 14:10:29 ~flashing Mar 01 14:10:30 hmm... maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Mar 01 14:10:49 Sicelo: first: flasher-3.5.exe -F RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin -f Mar 01 14:10:54 Sicelo: Then: flasher-3.5.exe -F RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2.002_PR_COMBINED_002_ARM.bin -f -R Mar 01 14:14:03 try `modest -s` in terminal Mar 01 14:15:19 Sicelo: it says bus error Mar 01 14:15:30 "Bus error" Mar 01 14:16:26 want to paste the error to a pastebin Mar 01 14:17:13 Sicelo: just one line error... "Bus error" Mar 01 14:17:49 * Sicelo is noob too .. so this issue seems beyond my abilities Mar 01 14:18:10 Sicelo: thank you all the same Mar 01 14:18:22 Bus error sounds a hardware error? Mar 01 14:19:04 only hardware issue that could have effect is worn out emmc ... but i don't think we can say that's the issue yet Mar 01 14:19:19 i think answer lies in software Mar 01 14:19:54 oh, then where could I search for help? Mar 01 15:07:18 hi everybody- cannot reach talk.maemo for hours now, what about you? Mar 01 15:12:41 its been down at least most of the day Mar 01 15:13:20 yeah correct- hope it will come back soon :-( Mar 01 15:13:45 my last contact was about 10 am CET Mar 01 16:53:39 why talk is down? Mar 01 16:54:10 don't know, already sent a mail to the domain owner let us see if they read it :( Mar 01 16:54:27 it is down for aprox. 8 hours now Mar 01 17:22:24 okay talk seems to be up again! Mar 01 17:23:06 magic_doc, where was the problem? Mar 01 17:24:02 Pali: talk was down for at least 8 hours here in germany and for and for two other users too. Mar 01 17:24:24 dont know why Mar 01 17:24:29 ok Mar 01 18:10:43 hm I'm in a situation where I need a dropbox alike system that syncs 2 windows endpoints with my linux server, anybody know an easy to use solution? Mar 01 18:11:29 nfs? Mar 01 18:11:41 http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/ Mar 01 18:13:12 magic_doc: unison looks like it is for a peer to peer system, but I aim to sync each windows endpoint to the server seperately Mar 01 18:13:26 no it is not Mar 01 18:13:35 I am using this for linux only Mar 01 18:13:43 but should work with windows accordingly Mar 01 18:13:44 than the overview is missleading :D Mar 01 18:14:21 im using unison for years now and syncing my host at home, roadwarrior and n900 with it ;) Mar 01 18:15:02 sounds good :) Mar 01 18:16:25 but as i said never knew someone to use it with windows- that is on your own risk just try it out ;) Mar 01 18:16:48 I'll see how far I get Mar 01 18:16:49 :) Mar 01 18:17:54 ofc there is no proper version avaible for win that goes with the one on debian Mar 01 18:18:24 oh sorry to hear that- Mar 01 18:19:21 merlin1991: Mar 01 18:19:38 there is a 2.27.157 for windows Mar 01 18:19:50 I found a 2.32.52 Mar 01 18:19:51 and this should also be available for debian squeeze Mar 01 18:19:56 which actually fits with debian Mar 01 18:20:01 http://alan.petitepomme.net/unison/assets/Unison-2.27.157.zip Mar 01 18:20:08 now I'll just have to find proper gtk libs too Mar 01 18:20:08 yay Mar 01 18:20:52 they even have a version for mac ppc *g* Mar 01 18:20:52 or I just use the text version :) Mar 01 18:23:43 holy shit, my linux server heasn't seen an update in quite some time Mar 01 18:24:15 okay then this is a good occasion ... Mar 01 18:39:54 hm server restart worked luckily Mar 01 18:39:59 next up testing unison :D Mar 01 19:03:10 bah unison does not play well with the ssh in msysgit Mar 01 23:45:09 hello, I need help with email app, modest -s says "Bus error", what's wrong? Mar 01 23:58:24 uuuuu Mar 01 23:58:52 bus error ussualy means something went seriously wrong with memory Mar 02 00:01:52 jacekowski: memory? So it could be a hardware error? Mar 02 00:35:07 LaoLang_cool: I believe bus error used to mean you did a non-aligned load, like loading an int from an address that isn't a multiple of the address of an int. Doesn't matter though, if that's the only program crashing, it's probably just that program. Mar 02 00:36:34 I have some rather extensive patches for adding idle mode support to be notified almost immediately when you get e-mail, but it brings its own issues. Like it will act as if it received two messages instead of one. Mar 02 00:36:36 SpacedOut: but I want to have a try with maemo's email Mar 02 00:37:25 I don't get your statement, what do you mean by have a try? Mar 02 00:37:36 SpacedOut: and also setting -> My Nokia also leads settings closed... Mar 02 00:37:53 SpacedOut: I mean I want to use built-in email application Mar 02 00:38:00 sorry for my poor English :( Mar 02 00:38:43 Does modest crash as soon as you start it? Mar 02 00:39:24 Or just once and a while? Mar 02 00:39:33 SpacedOut: yes, immediately Mar 02 00:39:39 every time Mar 02 00:40:04 run modest -s, then it says Bus error Mar 02 00:40:05 It's Linux, so it usually isn't the answer, but have you rebooted? When did it start happening? Mar 02 00:40:41 SpacedOut: I've tried it again and again, even after reflashing a new official rom.. Mar 02 00:41:15 Root or emmc? Mar 02 00:41:48 SpacedOut: both of them.. Mar 02 00:43:27 Is this a used phone, did it come not able to run? Mar 02 00:44:11 SpacedOut: sorry, I don't understand your question.. it's a working cell phone, I use it every day Mar 02 00:44:58 Did you buy it new, was modest able to run then? Mar 02 00:45:38 SpacedOut: it's a second-hand, but email running well when I get it, I can't remember when it can't run though :( Mar 02 00:47:25 I would have thought that flashing the both the emmc and rootfs would have undone anything in software that could be wrong because there shouldn't be anything left. After you flashed it, were any of your old settings or anything still around? Mar 02 00:48:36 SpacedOut: no, after reflashing, everything old has gone Mar 02 00:48:39 I've seen it misbehave if the local cache (config data) was corrupt in a way it didn't expect, but a reflash should have taken care of that. Mar 02 00:48:44 it acts like a new phone Mar 02 00:50:17 If you go in software updates does it show any available? Mar 02 00:50:31 The file I use is: RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin and RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2.002_PR_COMBINED_002_ARM.bin Mar 02 00:50:41 They are both from the offical site of nokia Mar 02 00:50:46 SpacedOut: yes Mar 02 00:50:59 It shows 2010.38 update is available Mar 02 00:51:32 update commands is: flasher-3.5.exe -F RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin -f and flasher-3.5.exe -F RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2.002_PR_COMBINED_002_ARM.bin -f -R Mar 02 00:51:58 Maybe I should try some other rom? Mar 02 00:52:31 LaoLang_cool: no, it should work with the files you listed Mar 02 00:53:05 Install the update and see where that gets you. Mar 02 00:53:09 dole: so weired... email will be closed even a new reflashing Mar 02 00:53:19 SpacedOut: I've installed it already.. Mar 02 00:53:47 I haven't really followed your problem, but if you flashed your phone with both this files correctly there shouldn't be any settings or data left Mar 02 00:53:48 I'm confused Mar 02 00:54:25 Do you have the extras repository enabled, I would install strace and see what files it is accessing before it crashed. Maybe it doesn't like some config file. Mar 02 00:54:51 dole: yes, no any settings left Mar 02 00:55:07 SpacedOut: no, it's not enabled Mar 02 00:55:11 LaoLang_cool: Have you tried to flash the rootfs first, then emmc and then rootfs again? Mar 02 00:55:28 dole: no, I always emmc then rootfs Mar 02 00:55:52 well, I don't think it should make any difference but it is worth a try I guess Mar 02 00:56:54 is it your email-client that crashes? Mar 02 00:57:12 (the built-in email-client) Mar 02 00:57:31 dole: yes, modest -s Mar 02 00:57:54 do you install something before you setup your email-account? Mar 02 00:57:58 if I run it by clicking icon, it will say internal error, application "email" closed Mar 02 00:58:03 dole: no Mar 02 00:58:06 thats odd Mar 02 00:58:11 I've tried run it after a reflashing Mar 02 00:58:24 no any operations except rebooting Mar 02 00:58:55 I don't think you will be able to flash your phone with broken files, but you can try to download them again Mar 02 00:58:57 no any contacts, conversations left, so I believe old data has all gone Mar 02 00:59:00 and flash again Mar 02 00:59:13 dole: ok, I will try Mar 02 00:59:26 yeah, if you flashed your phone as you described everything should be gone Mar 02 01:00:53 dole: thanks, I will have a try to re-download the roms Mar 02 01:01:02 do that Mar 02 01:01:09 LaoLang_cool: before you reflash, go in and `rm -rf /home/user/.modest` Mar 02 01:01:27 RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin and RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2.002_PR_COMBINED_002_ARM.bin is ok? Mar 02 01:01:39 SpacedOut: I've tried that also.. Mar 02 01:01:55 http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Mar 02 01:01:56 Do you have a micro-SD card in? Mar 02 01:02:21 SpacedOut: I've tried with removing it too Mar 02 01:02:24 do you have a n900 from US? Mar 02 01:02:43 dole: I don't know, my imei is 356938031458509 Mar 02 01:02:51 hm Mar 02 01:03:01 you may have the wrong file Mar 02 01:03:14 where did you bought the phone? Mar 02 01:03:43 dole: it's a second-hand, I can't know the details of it now... Mar 02 01:04:01 The usb flasher can give some information about the device, but I don't know if that will list what country it was designed for. Mar 02 01:04:14 it's worth a try Mar 02 01:04:51 SpacedOut: it will list the rom I'm using I remember and the file I try to reflashing, no the real data, but I will try again Mar 02 01:06:34 SpacedOut: how to run flasher to show the info without reflashing? Mar 02 01:07:32 I'm not sure what damage it can do if you flash your phone with the wrong flash, is it possible to break the baseband? Or why do Nokia use specific files for specific locations? Mar 02 01:08:11 flasher --read-device-id Mar 02 01:08:22 I wouldn'f flash my phone before I know where it comes from Mar 02 01:09:03 dole: Nokia may use specific variations to comply with local regulatory requirements. Mar 02 01:09:29 dole: For example, everywhere outside Ghana the 3d holographic display is disabled. Mar 02 01:10:31 maybe that's why Mar 02 01:10:40 but what if it isn't? Mar 02 01:11:19 SpeedEvil: Do they also include a terrabyte of ram to support that display, sweet. Mar 02 01:12:01 SpacedOut: I've tried, it gives rom's version, no info about the product location :( Mar 02 01:14:21 DocScrutinizer may know something about this Mar 02 01:15:20 dole: Thanks, I will wait for DocScrutinizer or DocScrutinizer51 :) Mar 02 01:16:48 In the mean time try using strace/gdb to see if you can learn anything, and possibly the newer modest from the extras version 3.90.7-11 Mar 02 01:18:05 SpacedOut: I can't know the version I'm using, modest -v will lead to bus error too Mar 02 01:18:20 dpkg -l modest Mar 02 01:18:20 My maemo is the testing cssu version Mar 02 01:18:44 SpacedOut: 3.90.7-11 Mar 02 01:18:51 LaoLang_cool: do you have the box for your n900? Mar 02 01:18:51 it's the latest Mar 02 01:19:09 dole: yes, but not at present.. Mar 02 01:19:17 I'm running testing cssu as well. Mar 02 01:19:24 but I don't know if it's the one with my N900 Mar 02 01:19:58 LaoLang_cool: that's easy to check. The IMEI is written on both the box and your phone Mar 02 01:20:05 mine N900 is from Sweden Mar 02 01:20:15 SpacedOut: I've tried: 1. run modest with a new reflashing of offical rom, 2. run modest with a new reflashing and updating to offical update Mar 02 01:20:19 So the text on the box is in swedish Mar 02 01:20:32 I guess that's a way to find out where your phone is from Mar 02 01:20:47 just hope it isn't written in english :p Mar 02 01:21:03 dole: it's written in English... Mar 02 01:21:12 :( Mar 02 01:21:56 it says it'd mode in Korea Mar 02 01:22:05 it's made Mar 02 01:22:23 same here Mar 02 01:29:42 dole: I've found some info from internet: 0593611: RX-51 UK CV Mar 02 01:30:13 maybe it's a location is UK Mar 02 01:30:19 so I will try with UK version Mar 02 01:30:58 are you sure? Mar 02 01:31:09 where did you found that info? Mar 02 01:31:36 dole: it's a chinese website: http://www.3geek.cn/show/3718.html Mar 02 01:32:14 it sure looks like UK then Mar 02 01:32:44 downloading is slow here... I will try after that Mar 02 01:35:05 yeah, I have to sleep though (it's 02:34 here) Mar 02 01:35:33 how did you get "0593611" from your phone? Mar 02 01:36:10 found it Mar 02 01:36:15 http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1496843/+440 Mar 02 01:37:19 dole: it's behind the battery :) Mar 02 01:37:32 dole: thank you, and have a good night! Mar 02 01:37:34 Yeah Mar 02 01:37:47 Good night! And good luck LaoLang_cool :) Mar 02 01:38:11 dole: good luck for you too :) Mar 02 02:45:59 how dose one go about adding the en_DK local to an n800? was im sick and tired of not having a 24hour clock and fi_FI and de_DE both mess with the days of the week Mar 02 02:47:15 oh and is anyone else having the issue of a lot of the repositories failign to refresh? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Mar 02 02:59:58 2012