**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 08 02:59:59 2012 Mar 08 06:28:05 never chat on my n900 Mar 08 06:33:38 hello, I followed the link on maemo/IRC Mar 08 06:34:33 I'm feeling good experiement with gtalk on N900 Mar 08 06:34:43 s/experiment/experience Mar 08 07:51:46 hi... guys can you help me? ... today I tak me n900 and it was off so I started it but I was stucked on cycling white dots... so I reflashed it... but I still got these dots... Mar 08 07:51:55 *took Mar 08 07:52:42 fixed: hi... guys can you help me? ... today I took my n900 and it was off so I started it but n900 was stucked on cycling white dots... so I reflashed it... but I still got these dots... Mar 08 07:55:18 tralalalalo: emmc and combined/ Mar 08 07:55:20 ? Mar 08 07:55:51 1st over flasher-3.5.exe Mar 08 07:55:59 2nd over NSU Mar 08 07:56:04 3rd over NSU Mar 08 07:56:09 still dots Mar 08 07:56:24 after every step just white dots Mar 08 07:56:36 rtfm Mar 08 07:56:38 ~flashing Mar 08 07:56:38 maemo-flashing is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Mar 08 07:56:48 do it EXACTLY as it's explained here Mar 08 07:56:51 i was not flashing eMMC Mar 08 07:57:36 sorry COMBINED only Mar 08 08:04:12 n900 is detected by NSU so I am making another update over NSU Mar 08 08:06:14 now there is NOKIA screen with usb mark on right up corner.... NSU says 1 minute left... -> n900 vibrate and reboots... -> cycling white dots Mar 08 08:09:12 do I really need to do eMMC flash? i dont want lost all my files :/ Mar 08 08:09:56 nope Mar 08 08:10:09 just keep retrying rootfs flash Mar 08 08:10:22 first boot maemo-optify should fix broken things Mar 08 08:22:57 still dots... Mar 08 08:23:07 :/ Mar 08 08:27:44 how long are you waiting Mar 08 08:28:29 if boot finds a corrupted FAT32, it may decide to run fsck against it, which may take like hours to complete Mar 08 08:28:56 interrupting that process won't have exactly positive effects on FAT32's integrity Mar 08 08:29:40 whoever made Qt SDK manager should be shot, twice Mar 08 08:29:52 why the fuck is it a dialog that can't be picked up by the window manager Mar 08 08:29:56 of course it's worse than just a minor flaw and oversight to not show any notification on what's going on, in that case Mar 08 08:36:18 DocScrutinizer hm Mar 08 08:36:43 what is top? ... i mean hours for fsck Mar 08 08:37:06 iirc somebody claimed it took >6h for him Mar 08 08:37:47 actually it's a pretty poor idea to run fsck from a system that limited in RAM resources like N900 is Mar 08 08:38:13 anyway IIRC N900 boot may do it under certain circumstances Mar 08 08:39:10 and obviously it has to be done prior to mounting /home, so no way to boot up to a semi operable system when fsck is pending Mar 08 08:39:26 well i was thinking... last thing i did was creating ~/profile and ~/.profile with "exec bash" Mar 08 08:39:44 alternative: use backupmenu to run fsck, but that requires an already installed backupmenu Mar 08 08:39:55 ummm Mar 08 08:40:15 that explains a lot as well Mar 08 08:41:04 ye Mar 08 08:41:05 and the tricky point in that is it won't vanish on flashing rootfs Mar 08 08:41:13 ye :D Mar 08 08:41:36 but it should do nothing because there is no bash Mar 08 08:41:54 right? Mar 08 08:41:55 however, it might be worth a shot to try and ssh in to the system Mar 08 08:42:13 how? Mar 08 08:42:20 as sshd might already be started at the point where such exec bash could barf up Mar 08 08:42:36 ye probably Mar 08 08:42:43 sure Mar 08 08:42:48 well, do nothing? not really as it will cause the cmd to fail Mar 08 08:43:07 I doubt this will go unnoticed Mar 08 08:43:07 so i need usb networking right? Mar 08 08:43:15 or WLAN Mar 08 08:43:39 how can i do wlan if i can see only white dots... no gui Mar 08 08:44:00 well, my WLAN works completely unattended Mar 08 08:44:04 YMMV Mar 08 08:44:16 actually s/Mileage/Setup/ Mar 08 08:45:04 and n900 in default will automatically connect to wlan? Mar 08 08:45:16 mine does Mar 08 08:45:30 what is your wlan setup... ap side Mar 08 08:45:31 ? Mar 08 08:45:31 depends on your settings Mar 08 08:45:46 no special AP side setup Mar 08 08:46:18 at least it must by open Mar 08 08:46:21 normal WPA encrypted AP with DHCP and yes, some fixed IP addr for the MAC of N900, for convenience Mar 08 08:47:14 i see... wlan settings are not ereased right? Mar 08 08:47:22 nope, not erased Mar 08 08:47:24 but problem is i had manual joining Mar 08 08:47:30 connectin Mar 08 08:47:35 also in ~user/ or sth Mar 08 08:48:26 well so only way is usb networking.... does that need tome n900 setup? Mar 08 08:48:36 *some Mar 08 08:48:40 yes Mar 08 08:48:48 so i am fcked Mar 08 08:49:16 well, you may want to boot nto rescue-initrd or NIN101's rescue-maemo, via flasher. Then mount the original rootfs and /home and fix it Mar 08 08:51:13 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75369 Mar 08 08:52:36 ou nice Mar 08 08:54:08 ok i can use this on winxp too right? flasher-3.5 -k 2.6.37 -n initrd.img -l -b"rootdelay root=/dev/ram0 Mar 08 08:54:53 can run ubuntu in vmware... Mar 08 08:56:11 yes Mar 08 08:56:31 guys i respect guy who did that.... looks pretty epic Mar 08 08:56:35 but it heavily depends on your computer's specifications minus host OS taking certain resources away Mar 08 08:57:00 i5 2500k/560 ti/8 GB ram Mar 08 08:59:22 should be ok to run it in VM Mar 08 09:01:13 omg ... i need to buy EN keyboard Mar 08 09:05:48 hm Mar 08 09:06:04 it mounts rootfs but not home folder Mar 08 09:19:42 well Mar 08 09:19:52 how to quit vi if there is no ESC :D Mar 08 09:21:11 Ctrl-[ Mar 08 09:22:46 oh here it comes Mar 08 09:23:00 thank you guys for help Mar 08 09:23:02 fixed Mar 08 09:23:24 can someone add this awsome rescueOS to upgrade firmware trobleshoot? Mar 08 09:23:34 ... i mean to wiki Mar 08 09:24:22 it's a wiki Mar 08 09:25:16 is it? Mar 08 09:25:19 so if you at least a bit know what you're doing and are capable to write a decent english sentence, go ahead Mar 08 09:25:42 ah.. Mar 08 09:26:57 to easy my workload reviewing wiki edits, you might want to register anyway - it's a lightweight process Mar 08 09:27:10 s/easy/ease/ Mar 08 09:27:12 DocScrutinizer meant: to ease my workload reviewing wiki edits, you might want to register anyway - it's a lightweight process Mar 08 09:28:23 not mandatory to register, but quite convenient for you and for reviewers Mar 08 09:30:46 ugh, is gcc 4.2 absolutely mandatory to build stuff for Maemo 5? Mar 08 09:31:09 each vanilla kernel build i do gets bonked when using 4.6 or 4.4 Mar 08 09:31:54 oh well, getting sbox Mar 08 09:33:22 oh. Mar 08 09:33:26 libstdc++ Mar 08 09:47:42 ping andre__ Mar 08 09:51:02 Pali, pong Mar 08 09:51:34 andre__, you reported more bugs with CVE patches for CSSU Mar 08 09:51:49 might be, don't remember what I did weeks ago :P Mar 08 09:51:58 that is all, or is there more (internal) bugs? Mar 08 09:52:51 Pali, don't know if that's all, but let's say it's all I am currently aware of :) Mar 08 09:53:03 ok, thanks Mar 08 09:53:06 np Mar 08 10:01:10 ok i wrote something there Mar 08 10:02:55 but i think there should be link somewhere on top of page... to inform people that these 5 dots is not reason to reflash Mar 08 10:03:18 because i reflashed... and i didnt have to :/ Mar 08 10:05:50 once again thx... bb Mar 08 10:12:47 @Pali, is scratchbox a must for building kernel-power? Mar 08 10:16:31 you can certainly cross build a kernel without sbox Mar 08 10:16:49 creating packages will be slightly harder though Mar 08 10:24:18 does it need GCC 4.2? Mar 08 10:24:26 brb reboot Mar 08 10:28:18 Hurrian, yes Mar 08 10:28:34 scratchbox or madde (see kernel-power thread on TMO) Mar 08 12:32:52 >needs scratchbox Mar 08 12:32:55 noooooooooo Mar 08 12:32:58 oh well. Mar 08 14:53:12 hello Mar 08 14:53:32 is there any datasheet available for the lcd panel? Mar 08 15:00:09 any1 here? Mar 08 15:05:23 anybody? Mar 08 15:10:00 any1 here? Mar 08 15:24:42 penguinbait: o/ Mar 08 15:24:56 err Mar 08 15:24:59 peterbjornx: Mar 08 15:32:56 styx man any lcd datasheet? Mar 08 15:33:59 why? Mar 08 15:34:10 i blew up my n900's GAIA chip Mar 08 15:34:24 so now im stuck with a perfectly fine lcd but nothing to use it for Mar 08 15:34:49 http://www.google.com/search?q=n900+lcd+site:wiki.maemo.org Mar 08 15:34:49 i thought , if i have interface specs i could hook it up to something Mar 08 15:34:50 http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_LCD_panel Mar 08 15:35:22 might be better off selling it as a replacement part and buying a documented one from that Mar 08 15:36:30 im not sure if its fine actually Mar 08 15:36:53 i built a fake accu and my (dumb) sister turned the voltage knob Mar 08 15:37:00 how'd you kill the chip anyway? Mar 08 15:37:02 ouch Mar 08 15:37:06 the twl4030 chip literally blew up Mar 08 15:37:20 theres a miniature bullet hole in it Mar 08 15:37:24 from the inside Mar 08 15:37:51 the magic smoke escaped :( Mar 08 15:37:52 a piece of silicon shrapnell must've got blown out of it Mar 08 15:37:57 yea Mar 08 15:38:13 according to schematics LCD wasnt directly connected to Vbat Mar 08 15:38:22 so chances are it might be allright Mar 08 15:41:08 by the way any forum global mods here? Mar 08 15:41:37 i posted a thread with some pinouts regarding the LCD panel Mar 08 15:41:50 but the n900 sectional mod hasnt been active since january Mar 08 15:45:43 and you need him why? Mar 08 15:45:53 im a new member Mar 08 15:45:57 so my posts are moderated Mar 08 15:58:44 peterbjornx: how? Mar 08 16:01:19 ? Mar 08 16:03:18 DocScrutinizer: infobot joined! Mar 08 16:06:10 luke-jr, how? Mar 08 16:09:14 peterbjornx: how do you destroy the chip? :p Mar 08 16:14:51 * ShadowJK scrolls up and finds: i built a fake accu and my (dumb) sister turned the voltage knob Mar 08 19:15:02 peterbjornx: I'd think ypi are better off selling the digitizer and LCD on ebay, and get a LCD according to whatever your specs, that comes with proper datasheet Mar 08 19:15:13 for N900 LCD afaik there's none Mar 08 19:16:22 I'd be willing to pay a few bucks for the whole N900-BBQ Mar 08 20:10:34 DocScrutinizer: thing is, chinese make clones of those screens Mar 08 20:10:42 DocScrutinizer: so they have some sort of spec Mar 08 20:10:53 Meanwhile: At the rate we're going, cellphone screens will outgrow the average human penis length before the end of the year. October 2nd, 2012. Mar 08 20:11:09 hmm, or the copycats just disassembled one and RE'd the controller Mar 08 20:12:10 ooh, for some areas of this globe I think they already did ;-P Mar 08 20:13:18 OTOH though human penis might be capable of multitouch, I'd not like to play tetris on one Mar 08 20:13:35 s/on/with Mar 08 20:13:43 it's all about angry birds Mar 08 21:38:33 well, hopefully that TWL4030 blew up before damaging any other components Mar 08 21:39:15 iirc it is an easy part to replace, given a desoldering station Mar 08 22:47:35 hurrian, i couldnt find a spare TWL4030 or w/e its exact type is Mar 08 22:47:43 + its a bga Mar 08 22:48:03 i'd need more than a normal soldering station to fix it Mar 08 23:01:45 i meant a desoldering station, with heat guns, profiles and tweezers to pick chips out Mar 08 23:02:06 then again, those things cost probably >10x the phone Mar 08 23:10:52 sometimes when I run things from terminal, the application doesn't take input from keyboard, and the terminal gets that instead.. why? Mar 09 00:35:17 On my n900, I can't seem to connect to my Jabber server without ignoring certificate errors. I installed and enabled syslog, but I just get the following messages: Mar 09 00:35:19 Mar 8 16:31:14 Nokia-N900-42-11 telepathy-gabble[5183]: GLIB DEBUG tp-glib - started version 0.8.13 (telepathy-glib version 0.8.1) Mar 09 00:35:19 Mar 8 16:31:15 Nokia-N900-42-11 telepathy-gabble[5183]: GLIB MESSAGE default - lm-ssl-openssl.c: Issued for CN: www.joshtriplett.org Mar 09 00:35:19 Mar 8 16:31:20 Nokia-N900-42-11 telepathy-gabble[5183]: GLIB DEBUG tp-glib - no connections, and timed out Mar 09 00:35:45 It doesn't seem obvious from that why I can't connect. Mar 09 00:36:11 If I check the checkbox to ignore certificate errors, the connection works, but I don't want to do that; I have an SSL certificate for a reason... Mar 09 00:36:37 Suggestions for how to debug this further? Mar 09 00:38:11 Any way I can get more verbose debug output? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Mar 09 02:59:58 2012