**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 16 02:59:58 2012 Mar 16 03:07:23 r00t-eeepc: everything computer has a 1:1 pixel aspect ratio… Mar 16 03:44:52 i would like round pixels Mar 16 03:45:08 then go invent some Mar 16 03:46:37 or go buy a CRT, there were several models with round subpixels Mar 16 03:47:23 round screen too Mar 16 03:47:42 that would be interesting Mar 16 03:50:33 by the time when one gets creative with the shapes for monitors/tv/etc, they would be made redundant when VR glasses materialise on a much more bigger scale Mar 16 07:15:59 Random - how do I stop modest from starting? Mar 16 07:16:18 I've never actually used it, and I have better uses for 7M of RAM. Mar 16 07:16:25 apt-get remove modest doesn't work. Mar 16 08:32:13 its some autostart thing in /usr/share/applications .desktop files Mar 16 08:32:17 forgot offhand Mar 16 08:35:46 X-Maemo-Prestarted=false Mar 16 08:35:56 in /usr/share/applications/hildon/modest.desktop Mar 16 09:33:48 Meanwhile: Separately, an un-named US military official told the New York Times that the suspect had simply "snapped", and confirmed that he was on his fourth combat tour. Mar 16 09:34:05 *Fourth* [applauds] Mar 16 12:37:56 how do i know which .deb to choose: lenny,squeeze or wheezy? Mar 16 12:38:10 i'm trying to install newsbeuter http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=newsbeuter Mar 16 12:40:27 why don't you install it into something like easydebian? in some debian chroot would probably be more ideal Mar 16 12:43:45 jargon-: none Mar 16 12:43:54 jargon-: maemo is not a debian Mar 16 12:46:27 jacekowski: i see. so how do i get newsbeuter installed on my n900? it's not in the repos :-( Mar 16 12:46:49 psycho_oreos: easydebian? Mar 16 12:47:54 jargon-, chrooting into other distros within maemo Mar 16 12:48:31 jargon-: compile it yourself Mar 16 12:50:23 which is preferred? easydebian or compilation? Mar 16 12:50:51 obviously compiled Mar 16 12:51:22 ok Mar 16 12:52:09 the usual .configure, make, make install? Mar 16 12:52:17 ./configure* Mar 16 12:53:01 no, you need to cross-compile it, remember that your N900 runs on ARM platform not x86.. x86 binaries won't work with ARM Mar 16 12:53:12 ideally something like scratchbox may make life a lot easier Mar 16 12:53:22 and it has to be optified Mar 16 12:53:38 or yeah you can compile on the device provided that you have all the necessary tools, etc Mar 16 12:54:18 maemo is in between squeeze and lenny. build it from easy-debian. Mar 16 12:54:46 then prolly configure it with prefix=/opt Mar 16 12:55:41 are there any resources i can read up on at tmo? Mar 16 12:57:02 maybe not exactly tmo but wmo Mar 16 13:11:15 psycho_oreos: hmm. it's not saying what prerequisites i need to install in order to be able to compile software on my n900 Mar 16 13:12:09 build-essential pkg-config checkinstall? Mar 16 13:12:14 jargon-, I personally don't think you'll find a comprehensive listing for that.. mainly because hardly anyone compiles stuff directly on N900 given the fact that it has very little space in rootfs for one to play with Mar 16 13:13:04 i see Mar 16 13:13:21 so i compile it on my debian squeeze netbook,then? Mar 16 13:13:51 ideally you should and through maybe something like scratchbox Mar 16 13:14:10 ok Mar 16 13:14:21 you maybe able to get away with compiling on the N900 through setting a chroot image with all the dev tools, chrooting into that and building the package of your choice Mar 16 13:17:58 does anyone know if one can make a yubikey work on the N900 ? Mar 16 13:18:16 I plugged it in, but the yubi's led wont light up Mar 16 13:19:31 psycho_oreos: is this the scratchbox i want? http://maemo.gitorious.org/scratchbox2 Mar 16 13:20:05 LinuxCode, you got hostmode enabled? Mar 16 13:20:17 ahhh, that si probably what I am missing then Mar 16 13:20:26 psycho_oreos, got a how to ? Mar 16 13:20:56 * LinuxCode gets his kernel version Mar 16 13:20:57 jargon-, I personally didn't use the git version. I used the one recommended by wmo or even moreso is that I use the vm images which has scratchbox preinstalled, etc Mar 16 13:21:18 LinuxCode, not exactly no.. though there maybe a tmo thread on getting USB hostmode going Mar 16 13:21:23 2.6.28-omap1 Mar 16 13:21:36 I don't think anyone specifically asked for getting yubikey to work Mar 16 13:21:38 psycho_oreos, there is this app in the repos Mar 16 13:21:51 psycho_oreos, it is just a keyboard device Mar 16 13:21:54 "of sorts" Mar 16 13:21:54 yeah that's the standard nokia kernel which won't have things like USB hostmode Mar 16 13:21:58 kk Mar 16 13:22:11 guess I will need the power kernel then Mar 16 13:22:27 LinuxCode, I sort of know what it is but N900 has to act as the master role when it comes to USB communication :) by default it is in slave mode Mar 16 13:22:36 I tought the maemo-ssu stuff would cover a new kernel Mar 16 13:22:44 kk Mar 16 13:22:59 I figured as much, I tried to install the hostmode gui but that failed Mar 16 13:23:10 confirming effectively what you are saying Mar 16 13:23:12 ;-} Mar 16 13:23:18 thank you very much psycho_oreos Mar 16 13:23:20 yeah I'm not sure about that, initially power-kernel was really a complete separate entity to CSSU Mar 16 13:23:26 LinuxCode, nw Mar 16 13:23:45 psycho_oreos, what kernel should I go for then ? Mar 16 13:23:48 power kernel ? Mar 16 13:23:51 you reckon ? Mar 16 13:24:13 LinuxCode, I'm personally into bleeding-edge stuff, so I'd get pk49 myself Mar 16 13:24:14 I think it adds crypto stuff too Mar 16 13:24:33 yeah pk adds plenty of things Mar 16 13:24:34 how stable is that mate ? Mar 16 13:24:42 somebody on tmo is asking whether a light sensor app can charge the battery Mar 16 13:24:47 hurr Mar 16 13:25:06 fairly stable from what I can see, never have the device reboot from my regular usage before Mar 16 13:25:12 k Mar 16 13:25:19 hmm decisions decisions Mar 16 13:25:31 I guess I could try the power kernel first then maybe somehting else after Mar 16 13:25:51 psycho_oreos, do they live happily next to each other, or is this a flash ? Mar 16 13:25:54 there's a minimum version which h-e-n relies on pk for USB hostmode, if you stick with that pk version you should be safe(r) Mar 16 13:26:14 k, I will have to go with that then I guess Mar 16 13:26:33 now where do I obtain such wonderful kernels ? Mar 16 13:26:44 I don't think it will matter which one you install first, but power-kernel iinm is a metapackage, there's 3 separate packages that needs to be downloaded and installed Mar 16 13:26:45 psycho_oreos, isnt h-e-n support been available even in the ancient power46? Mar 16 13:26:46 psycho_oreos: hmm. where on wmo is the sbox recommendation? :-/ Mar 16 13:27:11 LinuxCode, activate extras-devel, install kernel-power-settings from ham, deactivate extras-devel Mar 16 13:27:33 LinuxCode, this is a kernel flash, it will overwrite nokia's kernel Mar 16 13:27:39 k Mar 16 13:27:46 I thought it would Mar 16 13:27:52 Hurrian|hurr, for the power kernel ? Mar 16 13:27:57 yes Mar 16 13:27:57 Hurrian|hurr, I think so but its been awhile since I really played with ancient kernels let alone my N900 so I can't be too certain :) Mar 16 13:28:00 k Mar 16 13:28:08 I try the power kernel folks Mar 16 13:28:16 prolly voids your warranty, but nokia does not care, really Mar 16 13:28:25 what warranty ? Mar 16 13:28:27 lol Mar 16 13:29:24 not like theres any real warranty anyway Mar 16 13:29:30 side note: anyone notice their lock switch wear out? Mar 16 13:29:34 mine just did Mar 16 13:29:35 broken n900, you get a nonphone back ) Mar 16 13:30:17 Hurrian|hurr, I always wondered if that was soldered on the main board Mar 16 13:30:22 is it ? Mar 16 13:30:37 it is Mar 16 13:30:43 great, not Mar 16 13:30:49 i need to change my habits now Mar 16 13:30:55 yeh, sucks Mar 16 13:31:11 or buy one on ebay, and take the board out, put in yours Mar 16 13:31:26 anyway, thank you very very much psycho_oreos and Hurrian|hurr Mar 16 13:31:37 I have to go for a bit, I try the power kernel after Mar 16 13:31:46 then report back tom you guys if the yubikey works Mar 16 13:32:12 Hurrian|hurr, mine wore out a fair bit, when I noticed that I tried to stop using that lock switch as much as I can Mar 16 13:33:13 k, Iam out for now, thanks again, bye Mar 16 13:34:35 funny talking about lock switch, I read how there was a thread about it, one person suggested the users to cut their own fingernails. That in some ways does help if one's N900 doesn't have a case like otterbox case. For me to access the lock switch whilst my N900 is in otterbox case I have to use my fingernails more or less.. if not it'll be stylus which is just as hard as fingernails to flick that lock switch Mar 16 13:35:37 how exactly does it 'wear out'? what difference does using your fingernails make? Mar 16 13:36:53 do you see the little notch on the lock switch itself? Each time you keep using nails or other rather pointy and hard objects to flick that switch, the little notch begins to deteriorate until it levels out to the same height as the actual switch itself Mar 16 13:38:24 jargon-, I can't find that scratchbox recommended by wmo, its been a long while since I last went through that option. The last few times I've played with cross-compilation I kept getting the vm builds instead Mar 16 13:43:40 aha, ok so that is pretty fixable then. I only got my n900 a couple of months ago, and I was worried the actual switch was going to break off the board or something (like the notorious usbport problem) Mar 16 13:46:04 nah it won't afaik but it just wears out, on my main N900 I have had one side of the notch fully worn down. When I noticed it I just used the alternative method instead (pressing the power key twice) Mar 16 13:46:21 X-Fade, ping Mar 16 13:47:43 but is it an issue with the plastic then, like they used too soft a plastic for the switch/notch? Mar 16 13:48:49 more like the notch, but you can imagine how small that notch is. I'm guessing its a bad choice to make that little notch plastic, should have been a small piece of metal wedge instead Mar 16 13:53:44 yeah, metal is almost always better :p Mar 16 13:54:46 a slightly better design would've been much better :p Mar 16 13:57:13 If it wears down I guess one could scratch a hole where the notch used to be and then use fingernails on that or something. Mar 16 13:58:12 I don't even know if that would even be easy, and really why would you want to do that? why not simply just press the power button twice? Mar 16 14:03:05 no, the notch didnt wear out Mar 16 14:03:15 when i lock it, it unlocks itself Mar 16 14:03:20 which sucks Mar 16 14:05:56 ping X-Fade Mar 16 14:06:51 is the 4.6.2 fremantle compiler especially picky about alignment? im trying to compile code, containing a QList of QStrings, but it seems to not like it and points to internal qt code with the alignment report :( Mar 16 14:10:44 Anyone have a clue as to how to get modest not to start? Mar 16 14:11:09 It used to be trivially possible to apt-get remove modest, but now it brings up a huge list of dependancies. Mar 16 14:11:53 Also - I can't work out how modest is actually started - it doesn't seem to be in /etc/* Mar 16 14:12:25 speedevil: /usr/share/applications/hildon/modest.desktop Mar 16 14:12:44 theres a prestart statement Mar 16 14:13:06 Ah! Mar 16 14:13:10 Thanks! Mar 16 14:13:22 I diddn't know desktop files could do that. Mar 16 14:13:36 i did that to a bunch of rarely-used stuff Mar 16 14:14:13 I guess I just comment out X-Maemo-Prestarted* Mar 16 14:16:55 x29a, there are some switches you should pass to gcc, otherwise it won't build qt code, let me try to find them Mar 16 14:18:16 x29a, try with -fno-strict-volatile-bitfields -Wno-cast-align Mar 16 14:19:07 Thanks! Seems to work! Mar 16 14:19:23 hello again, ok, I installed the power kernel Mar 16 14:19:53 26.28.10-power49 Mar 16 14:20:03 then I installed hostmode-gui Mar 16 14:20:46 when I go into h-e-n Mar 16 14:20:50 and enable Mar 16 14:20:56 yubikey wont light up Mar 16 14:21:03 am I missing something ? Mar 16 14:21:38 Hurrian|hurr, interesting on mine it did sort of wear out Mar 16 14:21:44 LinuxCode, checked dmesg? Mar 16 14:22:01 LinuxCode, how do you "enable"? Mar 16 14:22:20 not relevant for now LinuxCode - but you will need 'extkbd' package to use keyboard on N900 Mar 16 14:22:33 aah, yeah :) Mar 16 14:22:50 k Mar 16 14:23:09 but this won't stop it lighting up :P Mar 16 14:23:10 lkhubd timed outm on ep0in ? Mar 16 14:23:36 nut it does look like it is enabling Mar 16 14:24:37 LinuxCode: mine doesn't enable immediately. i'd suggest you review Problems thread for h-e-n on tmo Mar 16 14:24:38 LinuxCode, most probably you need to enable "Full Speed" or even "Low Speed" hostmode, an dthe press "VBUS boost on", wait for a while and press "Enumerate" Mar 16 14:25:00 I think it is detecting the device Mar 16 14:25:11 s/an dthe/and then Mar 16 14:25:56 hmmm Mar 16 14:26:11 it does supply power on that usb port right ? Mar 16 14:26:16 led wont come on Mar 16 14:26:23 yes it does Mar 16 14:26:25 if it's detecting it, hen's job is done :) Mar 16 14:26:38 install extkbd Mar 16 14:26:52 aha! Mar 16 14:26:57 (u said it's some keyboard, right? Mar 16 14:26:59 full/low speed device detected Mar 16 14:27:14 Sicelo, it acts as a keybaord device, but it basically is just a single button Mar 16 14:27:55 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:YubiKey.jpg Mar 16 14:29:02 ok, it flashes a few times, then stays off Mar 16 14:29:30 16:27 < LinuxCode> full/low speed device detected << sounds like it's not detected yet. start from scratch Mar 16 14:31:45 LinuxCode, did you press enumerate? Mar 16 14:31:49 I am wondering if this adapter doesnt cut it Mar 16 14:31:53 yeah Mar 16 14:31:58 let me dmesg again Mar 16 14:32:22 since it's your first time using this, i'd recommend you test with a simple flash drive before you go on to 'exotic' devices Mar 16 14:32:32 :nod: Mar 16 14:34:04 it stayed on for aquite a while Mar 16 14:34:12 I suspect this adaptr is a bit useless Mar 16 14:34:50 comes on though when I press vbus, flickers a bit Mar 16 14:35:08 freemangordon: yeah, i found that -Wcast-align is triggered by a mere #include , so its a bug in the 4.6.2 toolchain, now that i know it, my project leader will have to disable -Wcast-align Mar 16 14:35:32 I assume the mount button is only for drives ? Mar 16 14:35:44 mountable block devices Mar 16 14:35:46 or does it do some funky usb'ness I am not aware of ? Mar 16 14:35:48 k Mar 16 14:36:03 maybe I should try a usb key then Mar 16 14:36:06 * LinuxCode digs one out Mar 16 14:39:21 I dont think this is working Mar 16 14:40:26 hmmm Mar 16 14:44:48 if you have a multimeter, check if the data connectors on your f-f adapter are correctly wired. seems on a few of them they're not Mar 16 14:45:08 I have got a mini-usb to female adapter Mar 16 14:45:36 or micro-usb I can never tell them apart Mar 16 14:45:37 hehe Mar 16 14:45:40 micro Mar 16 14:46:09 micro has those teeth on one of the sides, mini doesn't Mar 16 14:47:56 when I push the connector in, it flashes more or stays on Mar 16 14:48:01 this adapter is crap Mar 16 14:48:46 maybe I should get a f to f adapter Mar 16 14:49:33 or I cut of some plastic Mar 16 14:49:49 I think it doesnt sit on the connector properly because of it Mar 16 14:54:48 I will order a f/f adapter Mar 16 15:02:50 DocScrutinizer: infobot joined! Mar 16 16:11:27 afternoon chaps, slightly OT but anyone know an easy way of extracting a listing of defined functions from a bunch of C files? Mar 16 16:31:39 "iPhone stroking keeps us satisfied the most, say fanbois" Mar 16 16:42:54 moo RST38h Mar 16 16:43:14 mooo javispedro, how are things tonight? Mar 16 16:43:48 finely fine Mar 16 16:45:25 again played with a demo galaxy note... they're surely doing a heavy marketing job Mar 16 16:45:29 ah... Mar 16 16:45:32 also found out the thing has barometer Mar 16 16:45:43 yes, they advertised this feature to geeks Mar 16 16:45:51 same goes for the ics devices Mar 16 16:46:30 sadly I still dislike the software very much and it is pricey... Mar 16 16:46:37 X-Fade ping Mar 16 16:46:44 it is heavily subsudized in the US Mar 16 16:57:56 javispedro: barometer, interesting Mar 16 16:58:31 javispedro: it's Mali iirc, should be a simple port for Mer/etc Mar 16 16:58:53 and the android stupid buttons are nearly invisible when not lit :) Mar 16 16:59:05 well that can be changed in sw ;) Mar 16 16:59:13 :nod: Mar 16 16:59:15 I'm not sold on the size Mar 16 16:59:21 oh, I am... Mar 16 16:59:35 albeit it seems kinda fragile, and considering the price.. Mar 16 16:59:35 really? Would you carry that around? Mar 16 16:59:53 it fits :) Mar 16 16:59:54 I guess it's small enough to make that possible - my Galaxy Tab is too large for a pocket Mar 16 17:03:33 * lardman wonders how much Vodafone paid for the SW likenesses? http://www.vodafone.co.uk/personal/index.htm Mar 16 17:06:07 ouch, certainly expensive Mar 16 17:09:45 anyone know what SUPPORT_SID_INTERFACE is? Mar 16 17:09:53 javispedro: does not feel fragile to me Mar 16 17:10:03 javispedro: and does fit the pocket Mar 16 17:10:12 the platform is...well..meh Mar 16 17:10:13 it fits, I did try Mar 16 17:10:14 hi RST38h Mar 16 17:10:20 * RST38h moos at lardman evilly Mar 16 17:10:30 javispedro: the security guard got you then? ;) Mar 16 17:11:00 I'd wish I had get away with one :) Mar 16 17:11:33 you can make yourself buy it by reasoning that you are going to put Meego on it =) Mar 16 17:11:42 oh, I am totally thinking that Mar 16 17:11:44 or even webos Mar 16 17:11:49 or maemo Mar 16 17:11:53 or...khe khe...iOS Mar 16 17:12:01 Should be an easy Plasma port once the open Mali driver is working Mar 16 17:12:14 but it is still pricey Mar 16 17:12:19 yeah Mar 16 17:12:26 ah, screw pricey, you are going to use it for 1-2 years Mar 16 17:12:41 not that pricey when you consider the usage time Mar 16 17:12:53 unsure Mar 16 17:13:11 * lardman imagines RST38h as a small red figure with horns sitting on javispedro's shoulder whispering in his ear.... "buy!, buy! buy!" Mar 16 17:13:24 back when Palm devices costed half than that it was clear to me they would last 3, 4 or even 5 years Mar 16 17:13:30 and they did Mar 16 17:13:51 * javispedro looks at nearly 10 year old m130 Mar 16 17:14:12 "angels we have heeeeaaard on high / tell us GO OUT AND BUY!" Mar 16 17:14:38 never paid more than 300eur. for a phone actually =) Mar 16 17:15:52 $610 for Note according to Google Mar 16 17:16:20 $575even Mar 16 17:16:35 kinda higher than usual, but not overly expensive Mar 16 17:16:49 maybe they have a dev program =) Mar 16 17:17:07 who?samsung? ahhahaha Mar 16 17:18:01 hmm, they release some code, but don't bother to answer questions in their "opensource community forum" Mar 16 17:18:25 it is like asking if an anthill has its own dev program Mar 16 17:18:26 they did ship some devices to certain cm8 devs Mar 16 17:18:40 you get bonus points by asking the ants, too Mar 16 17:22:43 just read about tizen, and huawei being involved now. what do you think, any chances we might see something like the n900 from huawei using tizen? Mar 16 17:23:01 looking at ios and android frightens me when i think about my n900 breaking Mar 16 17:23:57 has Tizen moved forward at all? Mar 16 17:24:05 btw, http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Maemo_Base_Port Mar 16 17:24:11 don't remember when that stuff was written Mar 16 17:24:27 i think SDK was releases in january lardman Mar 16 17:24:47 hanning: oh right, cool Mar 16 17:25:05 javispedro: interesting Mar 16 17:25:06 tizen seemingly has a hardtime capturing attention, e.g. the re-posted call for papers for the conference Mar 16 17:25:34 * lardman has been buried in work since the start of the year Mar 16 17:27:27 ah the delights of comparing driver code to determine what to port across Mar 16 17:27:38 or rather what needs to be ported across Mar 16 17:29:01 I wish I knew Perl at this point Mar 16 17:34:30 hanning: Chance? Zero chance. Mar 16 17:37:34 don't say that :( Mar 16 17:47:14 ping X-Fade Mar 16 17:47:20 ~seen X-Fade Mar 16 17:47:31 x-fade is currently on #maemo #harmattan #meego, last said: 'qronic: just tap star twice'. Mar 16 18:47:39 Hello Mar 16 18:58:51 hi Mar 16 19:06:19 who wants the 3rd reincarnation of an OS that has records to die prematurely to get replaced by next interation which again will get cancelled for another brainfsck which.... Mar 16 19:06:29 aka tizen Mar 16 19:06:35 loel Mar 16 19:13:36 Nokia couldbe bold today if only they had stayed with maemo rather than this meego red herring Mar 16 19:15:21 harmattan IS maemo Mar 16 19:15:41 meh Mar 16 19:17:13 harmattan is maemo*0.75 modulo 500% wsted time for crap and useless paradigm changes Mar 16 19:19:02 what a waste of manpower of really smart devels Mar 16 19:31:19 hi again all, I trimmed the connector, now the yubikey stays lit Mar 16 19:31:31 now I just have to figure out which kmod it requires or which udev rules Mar 16 19:31:37 because atm it just flashes Mar 16 19:33:38 omg it works Mar 16 19:33:55 needed low speed host mode Mar 16 19:34:26 :) Mar 16 19:48:05 should in theory also mean the opengpg crypto key stick should work Mar 16 20:11:40 what is the max milliampage the bus can provide ? Mar 16 20:11:50 100ma pushing it ? Mar 16 20:12:03 yubikey is 30ma Mar 16 20:12:19 usb on n900? Mar 16 20:12:21 200mA Mar 16 20:12:27 yeah Mar 16 20:12:28 cool Mar 16 20:12:38 so in theory even a usb smart card reader should work haha Mar 16 20:12:42 brilliant Mar 16 20:59:10 thanks :-) Mar 16 21:23:40 hah, usb smart card reader Mar 16 21:24:03 but yea, why not Mar 16 22:02:14 26h later, fsck didn't stop Mar 16 22:02:50 btw, what happens when you h-e-n two N900s? Mar 16 22:03:31 which one asks client (mounting emmc etc)? Mar 16 22:04:01 or do both swap their MyDocs for use of other sys? Mar 16 22:25:35 sszopin: you can't connect two hosts Mar 16 22:29:58 was just wondering if both weill show you choice: usb mass storage/nokia suite Mar 16 22:30:23 MAG flashed one with another N900, so they seem to cooperate Mar 16 22:30:47 but on standard setting it's interesting if both will offer mass storage... Mar 16 22:33:51 if it's in host mode it won't offer anything Mar 16 22:34:05 it's storage or pcsuite or host Mar 16 22:36:41 ok, thanks, that clarifies Mar 16 22:42:24 there's only two roles in USB, you're either a master or a slave. You can't have two masters talking to each other and likewise with two slaves Mar 16 22:44:04 * SpeedEvil holds up a poster with 'OTH' on both sides. Mar 16 22:44:08 Meh Mar 16 22:44:09 what happens when two masters get female-female connection going? Mar 16 22:44:10 OTG Mar 16 22:44:32 sszopin: If you connect two hosts and devices, they fail to authenticate Mar 16 22:44:43 they cannot communicate on any level. Mar 16 23:08:18 night all Mar 16 23:09:26 sszopin: are we talking about usb lesbianity? Mar 17 00:18:02 can you install ruby on rails on an n900? Mar 17 00:24:37 I don't think this question is valid Mar 17 00:25:08 you can install opengl apps, run at .3 fps Mar 17 00:25:37 you can have anything Mar 17 00:26:14 you can install ruby Mar 17 00:26:38 compile compatibled binaries Mar 17 00:27:30 rather why would you assume incompatinility is the question Mar 17 00:52:50 the fuck? RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin doesn't match the checksum Mar 17 00:56:24 redownload Mar 17 00:58:33 is f1c6431c6ee6d8bf4b2cd0f52a0a1336 Mar 17 00:58:39 hmm, will try Mar 17 01:02:52 doh, it doesn't even match the size **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Mar 17 02:59:58 2012