**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Mar 24 02:59:59 2012 Mar 24 06:00:25 hm Mar 24 06:00:39 anybody have any information on the best way to put debian or some other variant of linux onto an n810? Mar 24 06:00:43 i' going to use it as a "box" Mar 24 06:47:50 Macer: Um, chroot? Mar 24 07:40:10 no Mar 24 07:40:14 bare metal Mar 24 09:20:20 * andre__ thinks of closing all open enhancement requests against official Maemo5 in bugs.maemo.org as WONTFIX Mar 24 09:48:41 RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin and RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2.203.1_PR_COMBINED_203_ARM.bin Mar 24 09:48:48 which one is UK and which on Global image? Mar 24 09:51:13 global is the first one Mar 24 09:51:28 I'm sure its mentioned on that firmware downloads page Mar 24 09:56:38 203 describes a region / area Mar 24 10:17:02 thank you Mar 24 10:27:45 again, some problems Mar 24 10:27:56 USB device found found at bus 001, device address 004. Mar 24 10:27:56 Raw data transfer EP found at EP2. Mar 24 10:27:56 Raw data transfer failed: Resource temporarily unavailable. Mar 24 10:28:02 then i tried EMMC flashing again Mar 24 10:28:05 SU_PREPARE_DATA_BLOCK_REQ terminated with error code 3. Mar 24 10:28:42 it would have been more preferrable if you pasted that into pastebin Mar 24 10:28:56 and which platform is that from? Mar 24 10:29:15 i'm now flashing it at linux system Mar 24 10:29:30 flasher-3.5 -F RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin -f Mar 24 10:29:33 that command Mar 24 10:29:40 let me get this thing to pastebin Mar 24 10:30:06 psycho_oreos: http://pastebin.fi/n9mMuHceHi Mar 24 10:30:36 hmm Mar 24 10:30:46 http://discussions.support.ovi.com/t5/Maemo-and-MeeGo-Devices/Can-t-flash-VANILLA-PR-EMMC-N900/td-p/791637 Mar 24 10:30:55 https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7433 Mar 24 10:30:56 04Bug 7433: eMMC flash fails with "SU_GET_UPDATE_STATUS_REQ terminated with error code 1" on Mac OS X Mar 24 10:31:41 psycho_oreos, it transferred about 10% Mar 24 10:32:08 then it just did show up the error message Mar 24 10:32:55 it's still connected to the linux computer and it's in flashing mode Mar 24 10:51:54 anyone? Mar 24 10:52:15 psycho_oreos, got any clue? Mar 24 10:52:24 should i flash it first with fiasco image? Mar 24 10:52:31 i'll try that Mar 24 10:57:11 flashing currently with fiasco image Mar 24 11:08:28 i'm wondering why is that called fiasco Mar 24 11:08:58 tounge in cheek codenames/acronyms? Mar 24 11:10:40 no wonder flashing failed Mar 24 11:10:43 :P Mar 24 11:10:54 works! Mar 24 11:11:49 wasn't so fiasco thne Mar 24 11:11:52 then Mar 24 11:11:56 after all Mar 24 11:12:02 yeah Mar 24 11:12:21 it should be called as "FixFiasco" Mar 24 11:19:00 hmm Mar 24 11:19:27 i think it's time to finally replace my n900 Mar 24 11:19:38 second phone and the usb port is breaking off Mar 24 11:21:26 coldfyre: take it to the nokia care Mar 24 11:21:30 they'll repair it Mar 24 11:21:43 n900 is the best thing what i have never bought Mar 24 11:22:15 they won't repair it, they'll give you a symbian powered device Mar 24 11:22:43 idk, i don't mind buying a different phone Mar 24 11:22:54 i can't find anything hackable, though Mar 24 11:24:17 that's correct, there are no phone found like n900 Mar 24 11:24:33 and N900 isn't exactly a phone either :p Mar 24 11:25:13 well it has 2g/3g radio Mar 24 11:25:15 just Mar 24 11:25:16 :P Mar 24 11:26:25 i guess i should rephrase, is anyone able to recommend a linux based phone/tablet that has GSM Mar 24 11:26:33 actually nokia care can repair it for you Mar 24 11:26:39 i guess it could be android natively but flashed with some distro Mar 24 11:26:41 if you really want Mar 24 11:26:55 and if you pay Mar 24 11:27:23 its technically called an internet tablet with phone functionality Mar 24 11:27:30 at least here they repair phones too Mar 24 11:27:52 ketas, visited the tmo forums lately? Mar 24 11:28:03 for me it's easier to buy a new device Mar 24 11:28:05 tmo what? Mar 24 11:28:57 ah that Mar 24 11:29:07 damn acronyms Mar 24 11:29:14 psycho_oreos: why? Mar 24 11:29:40 ColdFyre, most android devices have locked bootloader which prevents one from natively booting up alternative linux distros. Nexus variants (Nexus, Nexus S for instance) have unlocked bootloader. There's work underway for a thing called hellaphone which bypasses dalvik vm but it only supports Nexus S for now Mar 24 11:30:55 _most_ Mar 24 11:31:08 also, i'm not looking at a branded phone Mar 24 11:31:10 ketas, there are a few threads already with N900 owners having their devices replaced with a symbian phone. Out of those having their devices replaced a few managed to get a replacement N900 back but after mucking around with the justice system Mar 24 11:31:36 hmm Mar 24 11:31:41 when I reflashed my N900, issue with supl.nokia.com disappeared Mar 24 11:31:47 it works now with Nokia source Mar 24 11:31:49 psycho_oreos: well i meant just repairing n900 in service Mar 24 11:32:09 psycho_oreos: you can ask for that Mar 24 11:32:35 ketas, I'm sure they won't do it, even if they do it, they probably won't do a good job on it Mar 24 11:33:30 psycho_oreos: how come Mar 24 11:33:55 ketas, should check the tmo more regularly and you'll see what I　mean Mar 24 11:34:23 psycho_oreos: i mean that out local nokia service doesn't just replace components Mar 24 11:35:23 psycho_oreos: i might actually ask if they take in phones for such repairs Mar 24 11:36:18 s/out/our/ Mar 24 11:36:25 ketas, believe in whatever you want to believe in but to me nokia more or less disowned the idea of N900. I'm planning to get my USB port repaired by some other mob instead Mar 24 11:36:42 for everything else there's always tmo threads Mar 24 11:38:58 of course, you need to ask what you want them to do Mar 24 11:39:02 ColdFyre, I personally don't think its too overly expensive if you got someone who can solder stuff properly to do it for you. If you can do it yourself it'll be even better. Your N900 still has got life in it before it becomes fully unusuable and whilst I'm not specifically suggesting that you should keep N900 as your main device, you should keep it as a linux pocket pc Mar 24 11:40:45 i have no problem with soldering, and tried but the connector is lifting off the pads. i just see this as a point where i should get a new device as a primary phone Mar 24 11:41:08 i have $ to burn, i might as well buy something high end/new Mar 24 11:41:28 well the problem is that n900 has no replacement Mar 24 11:41:37 so i've seen Mar 24 11:41:43 even your $$$ doesn't help Mar 24 11:41:53 i think in reality, i'll just need bash/vpnc/ssh on phone Mar 24 11:44:20 and keyboard? Mar 24 11:44:34 it's a plus, but not mandatory Mar 24 11:45:02 i made due with the keyboard on the neo freerunner for 2 years Mar 24 11:49:37 ColdFyre: the forums have instructions and points on pcb where you can get your usb signals... if you want to resolder connector back Mar 24 11:49:47 :P Mar 24 11:50:18 Nokia service is still not accepting these USB connector faults? Mar 24 11:50:26 it's global issue of these phones right? Mar 24 11:52:37 Its definitely a global issue but I think nokia just did away with swapping out the entire boards. Mar 24 11:53:02 right Mar 24 11:53:15 as long as they swap it in warranty period Mar 24 11:53:19 I'm good with that Mar 24 11:53:24 it was also only good until they've stopped manufacturing and that their stocks were running low. They since then have been replacing owner's N900 with some symbian crap Mar 24 11:53:32 luckily, this issue didn't happen in mine yet Mar 24 11:53:44 I see Mar 24 11:53:59 like I said, there's tmo threads about it Mar 24 11:55:01 are you awar of the little metal plate in stylus hole? Mar 24 11:55:19 I'm not sure what is it's purpose, maybe to make a pressure to stylus Mar 24 11:55:54 never seen the metal plate let me guess, its at the far end of that hole, like the deepest end or close to it? Mar 24 11:56:17 no, it's in the start Mar 24 11:56:44 I suppose it was metal Mar 24 11:56:52 ahh I never seen it Mar 24 11:57:04 maybe you can even see it I guess, but mine was released few months ago, and now it's is stick in the deepest end like you said Mar 24 11:57:27 so my stylus doesn't fit anymore, it is not inserted into the hole completely Mar 24 11:57:56 and sick of carrying my stylus alone in the bag, that's why I think about bringing to the service Mar 24 11:58:03 they can probably easily repair it Mar 24 11:58:13 then again they probably won't Mar 24 11:58:19 heh Mar 24 11:58:32 well Mar 24 11:58:35 there was also a tmo thread or two about the a/v jack being faulty as well Mar 24 11:58:46 then it's epic fail from Nokia? Mar 24 11:58:51 many N900 are still in warranty Mar 24 11:59:41 not many N900 are left in nokia's stock and I'm sure not many people would want to spend excessive time arguing with nokia just to get their N900 back Mar 24 12:00:11 can't you just ask what they should do with your phone? Mar 24 12:00:47 well before I leave it there, surely I will ask Mar 24 12:00:47 if you haven't read the forums, nokia makes you sign some sort of agreement when you take your N900 in for a service Mar 24 12:00:57 ou Mar 24 12:01:00 shit Mar 24 12:01:07 in the short, what is it about? Mar 24 12:01:16 in short * Mar 24 12:01:50 the agreement Mar 24 12:01:58 I don't know, it tells you what nokia can and can't do I suppose. I have never taken my N900 in for repairs. Though many N900 owners signed that and weren't happy when they were given some symbian phone Mar 24 12:02:24 i'm going to mail service and ask if they repair n900's Mar 24 12:16:56 Pali, ping Mar 24 12:17:28 freemangordon, pong Mar 24 12:18:15 Pali, there are two patches in KP, I cannot understand what they are used for Mar 24 12:18:25 just a minute Mar 24 12:18:33 KP? Mar 24 12:18:50 KP is kernel-power Mar 24 12:18:59 y Mar 24 12:19:00 thx Mar 24 12:19:02 Pali, first is block2mtd-yoush.diff Mar 24 12:19:16 second is anti-io-stalling.diff Mar 24 12:19:55 anti-io-stalling.diff, is a part of a much bigger patch which was proven to not solve desktop interactivity problem Mar 24 12:20:27 and the first one I have NFC what exactly does and why we need it Mar 24 12:20:32 any idea? Mar 24 12:21:53 meh, i'm just going to buy a galaxy s2 or nexus Mar 24 12:24:02 anti-io-stalling.diff is from https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=6578&group_id=1528&atid=5523 Mar 24 12:24:20 https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12309 Mar 24 12:24:20 04Bug 12309: menu icon not graphical Mar 24 12:24:33 hmm, can't get cleven working Mar 24 12:24:41 always warns about incompatible kernel Mar 24 12:24:56 then you are using an incompatible kernel... Mar 24 12:24:57 shut up povbot Mar 24 12:25:01 Pali, it took me 3 hour yesterday to read that bug report :) Mar 24 12:25:03 I'd go with nexus out of those two phones, 1) nexus has unlocked bootloader, 2) my brother has galaxy sII　and he didn't like the UI how certain widgets or whatever they are called freezes and he has to reset, but resetting would mean that all his saved preferences is gone and he'll need to sest it up again Mar 24 12:25:12 i have tried original omap1 kernel and power42 Mar 24 12:25:20 which one i need? Mar 24 12:25:35 and about block2mtd-yoush.diff I have no idea, patch is from titan Mar 24 12:25:55 but at the end this patch does not seem to solve anything. and the code we have in KP is just a part of the bigger patch Mar 24 12:26:31 freemangordon, in last kp50 (also I think was in >= 46) is problem with musb/charging... Mar 24 12:26:42 about block2mtd-yoush.diff - I googled for any similar thing, but there is nothing, I can't even find the author Mar 24 12:26:51 any suggestions for kernel compatible with cleven? Mar 24 12:27:08 Pali, what is the problem, I don't have any issues Mar 24 12:27:31 if I connect my n900 to notebook usb charging port (special usb port which charge when notebook is off) DATA transfter is off Mar 24 12:27:54 but if I use stock n900 I can connect it in PC-Suite/Mass Storage mode Mar 24 12:28:00 *stock kernel Mar 24 12:28:08 aah, i see Mar 24 12:28:30 n900 show only that charger is connected, not connected to PC Mar 24 12:28:33 well, maybe we should ask some of the KP developers then for help :P Mar 24 12:28:56 Pali, I can bet is is related to hostmode stuff Mar 24 12:29:03 my idea is that this problem come from hostmode Mar 24 12:29:08 yeah Mar 24 12:29:35 but i don't have laptop with dedicated charging port, so it is up to you Mar 24 12:29:43 patch nokia-20103103+0m5_usb.diff was disabled in KP Mar 24 12:29:56 because hostmode (maybe) Mar 24 12:30:07 but is present in stock nokia Mar 24 12:30:19 did you try pr1.2? Mar 24 12:30:32 as this patch is from pr1.3 afaik Mar 24 12:31:08 no I did not try pr1.2 kernel now Mar 24 12:31:40 and I have other usb problems: n900 cannot work with my USB3.0 ports Mar 24 12:31:59 I will check if this is only problem in KP, or also in stock kernel Mar 24 12:32:04 ok Mar 24 12:32:29 anyway, I am running out of time, bb for now Mar 24 12:32:32 at least I remember that it worked last year (but I upgraded kernel on notebook - so problem can be also here) Mar 24 12:32:42 ok Mar 24 12:32:47 gtg Mar 24 12:33:34 ping DocScrutinizer Mar 24 12:33:35 any suggestions? Mar 24 12:33:50 for kernel compatible with cleven Mar 24 12:34:06 Ville-, no idea what is cleven Mar 24 12:34:15 some supercool h4x0r aircrack gui. Mar 24 12:34:15 it's aircrack GUI for maemo Mar 24 12:34:36 ^ Mar 24 12:34:38 I think you need packet injection wl1251 driver Mar 24 12:34:52 so have i to compile the whole kernel by myself? Mar 24 12:35:26 to get this packet injection driver Mar 24 12:35:34 no, use precompiled packet injection driver Mar 24 12:35:40 hmm Mar 24 12:35:47 see TMO thread about kp50 Mar 24 12:45:02 question please Mar 24 12:45:50 for exchanged N900s, original IMEI of exchanged device, will disappear from this database after a while? Mar 24 12:45:50 http://www.numberingplans.com/?page=analysis&sub=imeinr Mar 24 12:46:23 meaning, Nokia cancels validity of IMEI, for replaced/exchanged devices? Mar 24 12:50:57 Ville- i have the kernel for power user 50, and cleven works for me, but i still prefer aircrack and kismet Mar 24 12:51:57 netkat: okay Mar 24 12:52:42 so you got it to work? Mar 24 12:52:47 nope Mar 24 12:52:57 just reflashed my phone and i need to install the powerkernel first Mar 24 12:55:14 i dont recoll any problems with instalation, but i guess it has some bug, since when i stop cleven, the battery dies soon, so i guess some process still runs after the shut down, but i havent checked which Mar 24 13:25:58 test Mar 24 13:26:32 hello Mar 24 13:27:20 can anyone reccomend me any good console ftp client for my device? (n900 under maemo 5) Mar 24 13:29:23 I can find only the next packages: http://paste.org.ru/?v8927g Mar 24 13:30:06 I have enabled the next repos: http://paste.org.ru/?ianz4a Mar 24 13:30:23 the first one sounds like _the_ ftp client, which is strictly CLI Mar 24 13:32:54 dm8tbr, of course but I found that the indicated are GUI and have no suitable CLI-command :-) Mar 24 13:33:03 That seems me so strange Mar 24 13:37:24 William_Conquero: you installed 'ftp'? and typing in 'ftp' doesn't do anything? Mar 24 13:39:43 dm8tbr, I tried some of them Mar 24 13:40:08 that doesn't answer my question. Mar 24 13:40:22 n900ftp is python-based and has no CLI-command http://paste.org.ru/?h2tf4n Mar 24 13:40:32 13:37:24< dm8tbr> William_Conquero: you installed 'ftp'? and typing in 'ftp' doesn't do anything? Mar 24 13:40:39 dm8tbr, I tried but it did not installed correctly Mar 24 13:42:27 William_Conquero: apt-cache search ftp cli => ncftp Mar 24 13:44:29 peetah, I have the next result: http://paste.org.ru/?nmuwvt Mar 24 13:44:39 peetah, I tried it too Mar 24 13:44:56 but I don't remember why I think that it is not good Mar 24 13:45:06 I'll try it now Mar 24 13:45:46 aside from that I think midnight commander also supports ftp Mar 24 14:02:59 dm8tbr, but mc works interactivly Mar 24 14:03:22 I need in ftp which can run from script Mar 24 14:04:57 Probably it is possible to use /usr/bin/ncftp for it Mar 24 15:12:24 i have improved performance of my n900 by creating a swap partition on a class 10 microSD card and disabling the internal swap. is this method mentioned somewhere? i mean in wiki Mar 24 15:16:22 yes. Mar 24 15:17:25 ok, good Mar 24 15:56:48 it's actually a rather good method Mar 24 15:57:25 * RST38h moos Mar 24 15:57:45 but obviously has its pitfalls, e.g system crash when removing battery lid Mar 24 15:57:54 moo RST38h Mar 24 15:58:32 what is the blue box in this context? Mar 24 15:58:56 ~rl Mar 24 15:58:56 from memory, rl is Real Life (the bad world out there), or known as the Big Blue Box (tm). Conways game using only rational numbers Mar 24 15:59:11 mghm Mar 24 15:59:39 err, where's the context? Mar 24 16:00:17 -ECHAN ? Mar 24 20:24:07 hm. my artigo just keeps crashing out on its own Mar 24 20:24:07 sucks Mar 24 20:24:18 need to find out what is wrong with it.. maybe if i install maemo on it :-P Mar 24 20:24:19 lol Mar 24 22:45:10 the seller of "recently purchased N900" on auction site went MIA :-( Mar 24 22:45:17 * ShadowJK still has no spare N900 Mar 24 22:45:34 ShadowJK: WUT? Mar 24 22:45:57 I bid on a N900 and won, seller is MIA Mar 24 22:46:06 cool shit Mar 24 22:46:17 :/ Mar 24 22:46:43 I just instructed a good friend and ebay pro to get me 3 N900 Mar 24 22:47:20 told him to charge me 10% for the action Mar 24 22:47:29 I haven't been able to do much hunting lately, been doing 14 hour days at work Mar 24 22:47:44 same here basically Mar 24 22:48:14 ShadowJK: you've seen my "enlightenment moment" in cssu chan? Mar 24 22:48:40 no new versions for X decades, allegedly best thing since sliced bread thing? Mar 24 22:49:02 IOW, what do you think a RDBMS like sqlite is doing to RAM when database >NNN Mar 24 22:49:23 lol Mar 24 22:49:45 sqlite is kinda slow if database > 4kByte already :P Mar 24 22:50:00 possibly the answer to the miracle why some users suffer from 30s+ stalls, while others are perfectly fine with their N900 performance Mar 24 22:50:31 *my* SMS and mail and contacts RDB is extremely small Mar 24 22:50:42 sqlite + ext3 + flash is a deadly combination Mar 24 22:50:51 others have the sms of last 7 years on their N900 Mar 24 22:51:06 now figure an inbound SMS Mar 24 22:51:21 it needs to be stored to eventsdb, no? Mar 24 22:51:36 so sqlite will open *and load* the whole db Mar 24 22:51:44 Heck, when firefox switched to sqlite for the awesome bar (address bar to the rest of us), even quad core computers with 16 gig of ram and velociraptor harddrives experienced multisecond hangs of firefox when sqlite decided to rape the hd for every keypress :P Mar 24 22:51:51 which is the direct path to swap hell Mar 24 22:52:18 if you have the SMS of last 7 years stored there Mar 24 22:52:21 heh, yeah, if it doesn't fit in ram it'd be a few magnitudes worse.. Mar 24 22:52:53 result: device freeze for 30+ seconds Mar 24 22:53:10 same for inbound and outbound calls Mar 24 22:53:24 and whatnot else that's stored in a RDB Mar 24 22:54:22 trigger an event that makes $random subsystem access the DB and you're screwed if that DB is sufficiently crowded Mar 24 22:56:05 I already suggested to start a new taskforce, topic "mystery of sluggish N900 finaly exposed" Mar 24 22:59:00 so anybody concerned about your device got unbearably slow over time: just try deleting obsolete crap from your various databases Mar 24 23:00:01 it's definitely no brilliant idea to have 3500 contacts in contact database, or similar number of old SMS, or even call events of 2 years ago Mar 24 23:07:00 ShadowJK: what do you think, sound rationale? Mar 24 23:08:42 dunno Mar 24 23:09:03 so what's needed to know? Mar 24 23:11:42 run an application benchmark against a system with purged/virgin databases vs same system after adding 600 contacts and 1000 SMS? Mar 24 23:12:21 Well I'd be interested in knowing if it's memory starvation, inefficient algorithms, or sqlite fsync madness that makes it stall so bad Mar 24 23:12:54 it's already common knowledge that tracker is hogging system especially when you already got lots of indexed music in RDB Mar 24 23:12:58 Hey. I'm new to Maemo. Where would be the best place to announce new packages (I might be creating a few once I've figured out how to do so)? Mar 24 23:13:24 hah Mar 24 23:13:31 here? tmo? Mar 24 23:13:47 facebook? twitter? ;-D Mar 24 23:15:08 What's 'tmo'? Mar 24 23:15:14 ~tmo Mar 24 23:15:14 well, tmo is http://talk.maemo.org, or trolls, morons, oxes Mar 24 23:16:34 Thanks! Mar 24 23:16:39 YW Mar 24 23:17:40 here you'll find "power users" and devels willing to give merciless review on beta versions. On tmo you find lots of fanbois and same amount of trolls Mar 24 23:18:42 most devels avoid tmo by now, due to poor S/N ratio Mar 24 23:19:18 tcatm: anyway, welcome to the club! :-D Mar 24 23:19:36 Btw, if there's anyone who has some time to help me create my first package from a cmake based source repo that would be awesome. I've noticed there is no quassel2go deb (only a dead link on qt-apps), so I've managed to build a binary but I have no clue how to create a .deb from it. Mar 24 23:20:14 there should be quassel afaik Mar 24 23:20:37 but anyway, for those things you're absolutely right here Mar 24 23:21:36 you'll always find someone willing to help, if you're not too impatient (turnaround time easily like half a day and 3 repeats of inquiry) Mar 24 23:21:59 That's pretty much standard on IRC and -dev channels IIRC :) Mar 24 23:22:06 yup Mar 24 23:25:55 92AAAJRB3: GOOGLE?? WTF! Mar 24 23:27:04 [2012-03-25 00:26:43] [Whois] 92AAAJRB3 ist ~Google@79.103.140.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr (Google) Mar 24 23:27:05 [2012-03-25 00:26:43] [Whois] 92AAAJRB3 hat Benutzerstatus in den Kanälen: #maemo Mar 24 23:27:36 my kickfinger itches Mar 24 23:27:43 Are there any repos I should be aware of? (I've got a n900) Mar 24 23:27:52 sure Mar 24 23:28:31 extras, extras-testing || extras-devel, tools, SDK, (CSSU) Mar 24 23:28:53 prolly extras-devel is the most relevant of them Mar 24 23:30:24 k, I've already got -devel and extras in my sources.list Mar 24 23:30:36 http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-devel Mar 24 23:30:47 ~cssu Mar 24 23:30:47 cssu is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU Mar 24 23:30:57 ~jrtools Mar 24 23:30:58 rumour has it, jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools Mar 24 23:31:01 maybe Mar 24 23:32:26 http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/devtools/maemo5 Mar 24 23:33:03 you'll love rhat one Mar 24 23:34:06 and just stay here 24/7, it's possibly most rewarding Mar 24 23:35:46 Are you aware of any scirpts that will automatically configure usb0 whenever I connect the phone to my computer? Mar 24 23:35:59 tcatm: here you go: http://cdnm.at/~christian/maemo/quassel2go/quassel2go_0.8-pre5_armel.deb Mar 24 23:36:01 for networking? Mar 24 23:36:13 :-D Mar 24 23:36:32 tcatm: see, we're a nice bunch ;-) Mar 24 23:36:54 Cool. That package should be in one of the repos :) Mar 24 23:37:11 well, that'S a special thing with the repos Mar 24 23:37:17 sgissl never bothered todo it since he had the qt-apps page Mar 24 23:37:29 and since it is a dead project I never bothered todo it either Mar 24 23:37:46 though I'm semi working on its successor Mar 24 23:37:53 it's easy to get sth into -devel Mar 24 23:38:06 DocScrutinizer: only if you have proper packaging in place Mar 24 23:38:14 Yes, for networking. Actually, doing ip l set usb0 up would be enough so I could easily access the phone via ssh. Mar 24 23:38:23 it's quite hard to get sth into and beyond -testing Mar 24 23:38:41 for example the quassel2go package would never fly with the autobuilder Mar 24 23:38:50 :nod: Mar 24 23:38:52 cmake exectues a part of the build at buildtime Mar 24 23:39:39 tcatm: I dunno about scripts for USB (though I bet there are), I use WLAN and it "just works" Mar 24 23:39:49 tcam there is mad-developer Mar 24 23:39:58 it's in extras-devel, it's gui Mar 24 23:40:12 but all it's logic is there in form of scripts Mar 24 23:40:20 take care about your USB port anyway, they're notorious to fall off the PCB when not treated like a raw egg Mar 24 23:40:47 so drop one of those instaed of the pc-suitemode.sh (don't know the actual filename) and you can have it run whenever you press the button :) Mar 24 23:41:08 I see. Well, maybe I can tie something to a dbus event. Mar 24 23:41:28 too complex Mar 24 23:42:12 on N900/fremantle we're free to tweak all sorts of config files and scripts in /etc Mar 24 23:42:38 so linking sth into ifup, or doing like merlin1991 suggested will probably do Mar 24 23:42:53 ~usb-networking Mar 24 23:42:54 usb-networking is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/USB_networking, or http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_USB_networking Mar 24 23:44:30 btw, for tie-ing (wtf is the rigth word?) sth to dbus msgs there's a great pks named dbus-scripting Mar 24 23:44:41 pkg even Mar 24 23:45:34 merlin1991: pc: pcsuite-disable.sh pcsuite-enable.sh Mar 24 23:45:38 I see. I'll probably write a tiny daemon to do the work. I have a small crypto handshake in mind so my phone can be sure it is indeed connected to my laptop and only then run some sync scripts. Mar 24 23:46:06 Meh. Mar 24 23:46:07 :nod: Mar 24 23:46:15 * SpeedEvil got loads of WONTFIX notifications on bugs. Mar 24 23:46:19 I do that via ssh with keys Mar 24 23:46:26 Which regrettably aren't unrealistic or really arguable. Mar 24 23:46:28 SpeedEvil: yup Mar 24 23:46:31 crypto handshake? Just ssh against known pub key and if not correct ABORT :D Mar 24 23:46:38 Andre_ announced that Mar 24 23:46:50 SpeedEvil: for harm? Mar 24 23:46:58 merlin1991: fremantle Mar 24 23:47:01 nope, fremantle Mar 24 23:47:07 Well, the handshake would also setup USB tethering. I don't want to expose that to everyone. Mar 24 23:47:13 merlin1991: see #maemo-ssu Mar 24 23:47:52 again just try to ssh into your laptop and base everything on that :D Mar 24 23:48:03 you don't want to use USB at all, if you can use WLAN Mar 24 23:48:20 just for sake of USB receptacle Mar 24 23:48:57 A USB receptacle can be replaced easily and I need it to power the phone anyway. Mar 24 23:49:11 SpeedEvil: I'm still in the dark about the bugs Mar 24 23:49:20 there are guys that prefer to charge their battery in external charger, rather than plug in USB fastcharger Mar 24 23:50:08 tcatm: this receptacle possibly is impossible or at least *very* hard to fix, once it ripped off the pads from PCB Mar 24 23:50:12 ~usbfix Mar 24 23:50:13 hmm... usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater) Mar 24 23:51:08 on a sidenote I never had any issues with any of my 2 devices here, and I'm plugging at least one of them 1+ times a day Mar 24 23:51:48 depending on your luck and particular hardware, YMMV Mar 24 23:52:11 merlin1991: Nokia is not fixing fremantle bugs anymore Mar 24 23:52:24 HEY SD69 !!! Mar 24 23:52:30 haven't for quite some time :P Mar 24 23:52:31 rare guest Mar 24 23:52:56 oh hey SD69, though that Nokia is not fixing fremantle bugs was kind obvious since some time already Mar 24 23:53:06 btw. How does the n900 resolve DNS? resolv.conf points to 127.0.0.1 and I find that confusing. Mar 24 23:53:13 dnsmasq Mar 24 23:53:13 tcatm: dnsmasq Mar 24 23:53:25 yup Mar 24 23:53:40 since DocScrutinizer pointed towards #maemo-ssu I thought SpeedEvil was talking about cssu specific bugs and we didn't have that much wontix resolves yet Mar 24 23:55:46 nah, but that one thing about bug 8347 is clearly CSSU and I'd like to add according comment to bugtraq Mar 24 23:55:48