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Mar 26 03:40:10 <loz`````> 1
Mar 26 03:40:30 <loz`> hello
Mar 26 03:41:24 <loz`> can't install backupmenu, on there is "NONE/400 3601 NONE error:invalid-request - NONE/- text/html" request on my proxy =\
Mar 26 03:48:20 <robbiethe1st> Ignore it, it's installed
Mar 26 03:48:27 <robbiethe1st> You just don't get a readme
Mar 26 08:44:28 <LaoLang_cool> hi, where can I find nokia pc suite that supports n900 and could run on windows 2000?
Mar 26 08:44:51 <merlin1991> why do you need it in the first place?
Mar 26 08:45:10 <LaoLang_cool> merlin1991: I need to sync contacts with outlook
Mar 26 08:45:28 <LaoLang_cool> I couldn't find an easy way to do it
Mar 26 08:45:43 <LaoLang_cool> And my os is windows 2000...
Mar 26 08:45:46 <merlin1991> hm, yea that is a pc-suite job, though no idea about a win200 version
Mar 26 08:46:38 <merlin1991> LaoLang_cool: maybe you can use something from here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sync#Syncing_with_a_Windows_Desktop
Mar 26 08:49:46 <LaoLang_cool> merlin1991: thanks, will read it, but dinner time is up, dinner first ;p
Mar 26 11:48:20 <Macer> hm
Mar 26 11:48:29 <Macer> well it seems that without widgets the battery is lasting a lot longer
Mar 26 11:48:33 <Macer> when in sleep mode
Mar 26 11:48:38 <Macer> go figure
Mar 26 11:48:44 <Macer> i wonder which one was eating it up
Mar 26 14:45:57 <Timmy> where can i set my avatar on forums?
Mar 26 14:49:06 <Sicelo> http://talk.maemo.org/usercp.php
Mar 26 14:49:39 <Sicelo> more directly, http://talk.maemo.org/profile.php?do=editavatar
Mar 26 14:51:12 <Timmy> no choice for me except "Do not use an avatar"
Mar 26 15:17:14 <Sicelo> lol
Mar 26 17:44:25 <Timmy> i have installed uboot on my device, can i simply remove that and install multiboot instead?
Mar 26 17:45:22 <NIN102> ~multiboot
Mar 26 17:45:23 <infobot> methinks multiboot is http://maemo.org/packages/view/multiboot/
Mar 26 17:46:35 <NIN102> hmm I thought multiboot is depricated and a horrible hack...
Mar 26 17:47:55 <Sicelo> damn.. lost stylus at last
Mar 26 17:48:49 <Timmy> NIN102: i want to install nitdroid on my device. i have uboot on my device but dunno how to remove that and install multiboot instead
Mar 26 17:49:01 <Timmy> im afraid it trash my phone
Mar 26 17:49:06 <Timmy> es
Mar 26 17:49:19 <NIN102> I also dunno, and I don't want to know, I know nothing about nitdroid and I don't want to change that :-). 
Mar 26 17:50:58 <Timmy> NIN102: i have android, but it has a lot of killing apps i like to run on my device
Mar 26 17:52:16 <Timmy> i really like to run meego but meego is not ready :(
Mar 26 17:52:17 <Sicelo> heh
Mar 26 17:52:33 <Timmy> i hate microsoft, that's all because of that
Mar 26 17:52:41 <Sicelo> what are those?
Mar 26 17:53:11 <Timmy> which?
Mar 26 17:54:29 <Sicelo> killing apps
Mar 26 17:56:10 <Timmy> angry birds :D
Mar 26 17:58:37 <Sicelo> lol, angry birds needs nitdroid?
Mar 26 18:24:46 <Raimu> The free one at least.
Mar 26 18:25:12 <Raimu> free bird :p
Mar 26 18:32:14 <Khertan> ~nitdroid
Mar 26 18:32:14 <infobot> i guess nitdroid is Nokia Internet Tablets with android OS. Support on nitdroid is provided in the channel #nitdroid and #nitdroid-help and Nokia does not officially support owners with android OS on their tablets. For more information read here: http://nitdroid.com/index.php?title=NITDroid_project. If you have bricked your N900 device and have installed nitdroid, flash with both eMMC and fiasco.
Mar 26 19:08:35 <Timmy> Pali: what's the latest version of u-boot u have developed?
Mar 26 19:08:57 <Pali> Timmy, last version is in TMO thread
Mar 26 19:09:30 <Pali> link: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81613
Mar 26 19:10:06 <Timmy> Pali: this:u-boot-bootimg_2011.12-1_armel.deb?
Mar 26 19:10:42 <Pali> version from that first post is current version
Mar 26 19:11:58 <Timmy> ok, thank u.
Mar 26 19:12:23 <DocScrutinizer> NIN102: 
Mar 26 19:12:29 <DocScrutinizer> ~maemo-multiboot
Mar 26 19:12:29 <infobot> methinks maemo-multiboot is deprecated, and a horrible hack.  PROBLEMS WITH NITDROID/MULTIBOOT? reflash rootfs&kernel aka COMBINED
Mar 26 19:12:48 <NIN102> ah ok.
Mar 26 19:19:02 <DocScrutinizer> Timmy: Raimu: you're aware that probably first version of angrybirds ever shipped with N900 PR1.0? for free!
Mar 26 19:19:30 <Macer> heh
Mar 26 19:19:34 <Timmy> really?
Mar 26 19:19:34 <Macer> http://code.google.com/p/n900ipv6/
Mar 26 19:20:26 <DocScrutinizer> or maybe it's been PR1.0.1 or even 1.1
Mar 26 19:20:50 <Macer> hm
Mar 26 19:20:51 <Timmy> but that was in the past, look further, they have released a free version of space edition for android
Mar 26 19:21:23 <DocScrutinizer> so you probably should have bought an adroid device instead of N900
Mar 26 19:21:40 <Timmy> no, i wanted a swiss knife
Mar 26 19:22:39 <Timmy> my phone has this potential to handle all of them, why not to use this potential?
Mar 26 19:24:57 <Timmy> i want to uninstall my u-boot and install that one which pali has developed. there are some articles about this but idk which one works.im afriad of this trash my phone
Mar 26 19:25:13 <DocScrutinizer> if you really want an answer: my evaluation of potential harm and hassle vs crappy quality of nitroid, from an already crappy android quality, that's for me why not
Mar 26 19:25:56 <DocScrutinizer> uboot and multiboot are particularly incompatible 
Mar 26 19:27:08 <Timmy> DocScrutinizer: cool down bro, :-S im only a tester. i like to test new things
Mar 26 19:28:28 <DocScrutinizer> and multiboot during each boot creates a several tens of second period when your device is in concrete danger to get "bricked" and needing a full reflash. Multibot is flashing kernels during boot, something I do with extreme care, at home, and in a controlled environment usually with aid of PC
Mar 26 19:29:20 <Sicelo> how long have you had you N900 Timmy?
Mar 26 19:29:38 <Sicelo> s/u N/ur N/
Mar 26 19:29:48 <Timmy> since past summer
Mar 26 19:30:10 <DocScrutinizer> ~status
Mar 26 19:30:20 <DocScrutinizer> o.O
Mar 26 19:30:46 <DocScrutinizer> ~botsnack
Mar 26 19:30:59 <DocScrutinizer> infobot: ping
Mar 26 19:31:53 <DocScrutinizer> uhuh
Mar 26 19:32:00 <DocScrutinizer> thought as much
Mar 26 19:32:43 <Timmy> what i really liked about n900 was meego which is dead, :'( . had it on my netbook and wanted to have it on my cellphone but it's dead. 
Mar 26 19:33:34 <Sicelo> use Nemo/Mer :/
Mar 26 19:33:35 <DocScrutinizer> well, it's arguable
Mar 26 19:34:12 <Sicelo> i'd definitely use that over nitdroid
Mar 26 19:34:14 <DocScrutinizer> "meego never was alive on N900" is a similarly valid statement
Mar 26 19:34:30 <Timmy> Sicelo: had it untill 1 hour ago, it was useless
Mar 26 19:35:05 <Timmy> reformated my sdcard to install nitdroid
Mar 26 19:36:53 <Sicelo> useless in what way?
Mar 26 19:39:04 <Timmy> Sicelo: there were nothin in its repositories, phone doesn't work, no 3G or 2G, incomplete settings and the worst was the terminal without necessary keys
Mar 26 19:39:22 <Timmy> Tab and Esc
Mar 26 19:39:40 <Timmy> also battery indicator didn't work for me
Mar 26 19:40:07 <Sicelo> you made a mistake.. i'm positive 3g/2g works
Mar 26 19:40:31 <Timmy> there was no sound and no codecs to install and no mplayer
Mar 26 19:40:52 <Timmy> Sicelo: i tried so hard but could not find anything,
Mar 26 19:42:55 <Sicelo> Timmy: i use their kernel to boot debian.. and i had a 3g problem that i could only solve after consulting their bugzilla.. so i know 3g/2g works for them.. and i'm willing to bet phone does, to some extent :/
Mar 26 19:48:16 * Timmy thinks there is nothin between use to fight for or struggle on, i think nokia is responsible for this problem, they have stoped supporting maemo and meego which causes no further updates, and also they dont release source code of many important things for developing them. i think nokia is guilty.
Mar 26 19:48:40 <Timmy> err, use=us
Mar 26 19:49:12 <Sicelo> nitdroid won't fix that though 
Mar 26 19:50:55 <Timmy> yes, i was thinking about developing maemo and poor meego
Mar 26 21:49:28 <DocScrutinizer> aaah
Mar 26 21:49:48 <DocScrutinizer> hi javispedro 
Mar 26 21:50:44 <DocScrutinizer> javispedro: I was a bit confused ;-D :: >>
Mar 26 21:50:46 <DocScrutinizer> [2012-03-26 21:53:40] [Notify] apt ist online (kornbluth.freenode.net).
Mar 26 21:50:47 <DocScrutinizer> [2012-03-26 21:53:40] [Notify] infobot ist online (kornbluth.freenode.net).
Mar 26 21:50:49 <DocScrutinizer> [2012-03-26 22:36:23] [Notify] javispedro ist online (kornbluth.freenode.net).
Mar 26 21:51:02 <DocScrutinizer> the timestamps differ though
Mar 26 21:51:16 * javispedro wants botsnack
Mar 26 21:51:24 <DocScrutinizer> hehe
Mar 26 21:52:31 <DocScrutinizer> anyway, I'll try to be hard to myself, and go to sleep - sth I missed last night
Mar 26 21:52:53 <DocScrutinizer> o/
Mar 26 21:54:26 <DocScrutinizer> ~status
Mar 26 21:54:26 <infobot> Since Mon Mar 26 19:53:32 2012, there have been 0 modifications, 2 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 4 commands.  I have been awake for 2h 54s this session, and currently reference 118478 factoids.  I'm using about 17736 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 35.93/0.82 child 0/0
Mar 26 21:54:47 <DocScrutinizer> ~+uptime
Mar 26 21:54:48 <infobot> - Uptime for infobot -
Mar 26 21:54:48 <infobot> Now: 2h 1m 16s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux
Mar 26 21:54:49 <infobot> 1: 59d 8h 41m 19s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Sun Nov 14 18:39:57 2010
Mar 26 21:54:49 <infobot> 2: 57d 3h 9m 23s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Fri Jun 26 20:39:27 2009
Mar 26 21:54:49 <infobot> 3: 36d 20h 47m 14s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Tue Aug  4 17:38:59 2009
Mar 26 21:57:47 <DocScrutinizer> timmy should /join #maemo-ssu
Mar 26 21:58:03 <DocScrutinizer> timmmyyyyy
Mar 26 21:58:19 <DocScrutinizer> (southpark flashback)
Mar 26 21:58:51 <DocScrutinizer> ohmy, good night #maemo
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