**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Apr 23 02:59:58 2012 Apr 23 04:14:08 LaoLang_cool: see http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/bq* Apr 23 04:14:32 LaoLang_cool: beware, these values also aren't guaranteed to be stable Apr 23 04:14:51 resp accurate Apr 23 04:17:52 anyway I'd think battery icon is using hal values nevertheless Apr 23 04:18:38 and for sure it's basically never *precise* Apr 23 04:54:17 the battery bars typically don't map linearly to percentages Apr 23 04:54:33 iirc, Diablo's 4-bar meter shows full until 50% :) Apr 23 05:15:47 DocScrutinizer: I can't reach http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/bq* .. Apr 23 05:23:27 Is there a way to put a file's content into clipboard from cli? Apr 23 07:21:25 then try http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/ *sigh* Apr 23 07:34:18 in n900, subsequent email notifications are collected into one notification popup window, and number of notifications is displayed near the icon, i mean popup window like here (screenshot): http://www.maemonokian900.com/maemo-news/a-subtilty-in-overlaying-notification-windows-on-maemo/ Apr 23 07:35:02 i was able to display notifications like theese from python Apr 23 07:35:05 n = pynotify.Notification("title", "text") Apr 23 07:35:49 but just can't merge several notifications into one Apr 23 07:35:58 anyone have idea how it's done? Apr 23 07:36:16 keyword is append-hint Apr 23 07:36:49 and set-hint-string Apr 23 07:37:03 method of Notification Apr 23 11:35:44 hmm, nokia seems to have my area better covered in Maps than Google. question is.. how do i download the latest maps? any ideas? Apr 23 11:36:00 my googling results so far give me outdated maps :/ Apr 23 11:36:58 or at least.. how can i 'force' my N900 to download up to street level for the whole area.. without having to pan from location to location? Apr 23 11:40:06 Sicelo: how outdated? Apr 23 11:42:02 http://maps.nokia.com/-26.3407401,31.1477525,16,0,0,normal.day ... that turn isn't there on the manually downloaded maps Apr 23 11:42:22 but if i allow my N900 to download directly, it's there Apr 23 11:51:01 btw, how does one even know what version the maps are? :/ Apr 23 12:01:10 I never found out. Apr 23 12:02:21 kewl Apr 23 12:02:23 thanks Apr 23 12:02:38 Does the Maps app realize when it has got outdated data files, anyway? To redownload when necessary. Apr 23 12:02:48 for now.. gave my N900 to a friend with windows Apr 23 12:02:51 Sorry I couldn't help. :/ Apr 23 12:02:59 no, Maps will happily use old stuff, lol Apr 23 12:03:46 Hngh Apr 23 12:08:54 who uses nokiamaps anyway? Apr 23 12:09:57 ...and why is it *PINK* Apr 23 12:11:11 Maps on n900 is awful, but fortunately there are other options too Apr 23 12:32:46 Meanwhile: slashdot.org/story/12/04/22/2326206/university-of-florida-eliminates-computer-science-department?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed Apr 23 12:32:58 Wasn't GeneralAntilles studying there? Apr 23 12:33:15 the directory /home/user/MyDocs/Podcasts for gpodder is not supposed to be root-owned, is it? Apr 23 12:36:56 jargon-: MyDocs has no ownership its FAT Apr 23 12:37:17 chem|st_: hmmm. says here root:root, though Apr 23 12:38:24 wait...the whole filesystem is root-owned Apr 23 12:38:30 0_o Apr 23 12:38:32 mounted wrong? Apr 23 12:38:39 should be user:root Apr 23 12:39:23 what is MyDocs itself? Apr 23 12:39:41 dunno. been having read-only issues. so i did this: 1. sudo gainroot 2. umount /dev/mmcblk0p1 3. fsck -af /dev/mmcblk0p1 4. mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /home/user/MyDocs and it truncated some partial podcast downloads. now everything's root:root Apr 23 12:40:04 drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 64.0k Jan 1 1970 MyDocs Apr 23 12:40:12 1970?? Apr 23 12:40:33 you have to mount it as user Apr 23 12:40:55 i see. well, i rebooted just now, let's see if that helps Apr 23 12:41:31 if there is an error catch it will tell something like "MyDocs is mounted as read-only" Apr 23 12:43:10 ok seems to be back to normal Apr 23 12:43:31 wait... Apr 23 12:44:06 yes Apr 23 12:44:13 it's ok now. Apr 23 12:44:18 chem|st_: thanks. :-) Apr 23 12:53:02 after changes to osso-mmc-mount and mmc-mount as described in http://wiki.maemo.org/Ext2_on_microSD_card following happens if i connect as storage media via usb: mount pointed created by hald/dbus is random non-ascii string, and not "usb disk" as before Apr 23 12:53:08 how can i fix that? Apr 23 12:54:16 can i do something like i my phone's gsm dialer is accessible remotely so that i can send and receive calls via my desktop??? Apr 23 12:54:39 reenignEesreveR-, think possible Apr 23 12:55:05 vdv, ???? Apr 23 12:55:06 reenignEesreveR-, http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#Make_a_phone_call Apr 23 12:55:30 you can do dbus-call over ssh i think Apr 23 12:55:33 sorry, forgot to add one thing ... need to do it via not, not USB Apr 23 12:55:59 hmmm... and can i have a pretty interface, prefereably a SIP client or something? Apr 23 12:57:03 doubt, that there's a ready-made solution Apr 23 12:58:18 i cna put some things here and there but don't wanna build a lot as i'll need to debug it as well then Apr 23 12:59:45 can i make use of asterisk in such cases? Apr 23 12:59:56 reenignEesreveR-: you want to use your computer for making calls with your phone right? Apr 23 13:00:54 yup Apr 23 13:01:07 and receive calls as well Apr 23 13:01:24 there is no fancy interface for making calls or answering them Apr 23 13:01:48 can i do something like turn n900 into a psx server? Apr 23 13:02:12 reenignEesreveR-: as vdv said, the dbus interfaces mentioned in the wiki are for making and receiving calls Apr 23 13:02:52 and asterisk is available too Apr 23 13:04:00 a simple way would be to create a simple interface for making and receiving calls via ssh from your desktop or by shell, use your PC as BTheadset Apr 23 13:04:42 configuring your pc as network-audio source mic/speaker in PS is a pain... Apr 23 13:07:43 is it safe to set label for /dev/mmcblk0 ? Apr 23 13:07:58 i mean disk label Apr 23 13:14:08 joga: What's your choice of mapping apparatus? Apr 23 13:15:17 for example kde offers very interesting (and non ascii) mount points and when i mount, illegal (for ext fs) dir for mounting is created http://imagebin.org/209350 Apr 23 13:15:26 vdv, make sure gpt is in kp Apr 23 13:15:32 _PNG for example Apr 23 13:17:29 Hurrian, how can check what is label for mmcblk0 at the moment? Apr 23 13:17:36 cfdisk doesn't show that Apr 23 13:17:57 if cfdisk shows partitions for mmcblk0, it's mbr Apr 23 13:23:32 Hurrian, sorry? Apr 23 13:23:50 are you talking about partition names or partitioning scheme? Apr 23 13:24:51 nope, about label of the whole disk Apr 23 13:25:02 Hurrian, if you insert an usb stick for example Apr 23 13:25:13 it introduces itself with some name Apr 23 13:25:22 very long uuid? Apr 23 13:25:42 e2label or tune2fs -L to change labels for ext2,3,4 filesystems Apr 23 13:26:31 Hurrian, i just don't understand, why that changed.. before descriptor of the disk was USB DISK Apr 23 13:26:56 and during automounting on my host system, it's showed as USB DISK Apr 23 13:27:31 and now label is not recognized, and automounter generates random string Apr 23 13:27:38 it's probably uuid Apr 23 13:27:56 e.g. 0909707987098-9799-3464573437-7777, right? Apr 23 13:28:02 probably looks like that Apr 23 13:28:04 just e2label it or something Apr 23 13:28:09 depends on host system Apr 23 13:28:25 on my slackware it's just a random string Apr 23 13:28:32 _PNG and then illegal chars Apr 23 13:28:48 Hurrian, http://imagebin.org/209350 Apr 23 13:29:09 wtf is that Apr 23 13:29:37 do you see two entries there? Apr 23 13:29:46 yeah Apr 23 13:29:51 that's weird Apr 23 13:29:51 they correspond to mmcblk0 and mmcblk1 Apr 23 13:30:13 and if i click on that item, a directory is created with such name Apr 23 13:30:29 mount succeeds, but unmount not Apr 23 13:31:30 i.e. automounter succeeds to remove device physically, but it can't remove directory with such a name "_PNG<<" Apr 23 13:40:05 does it work right on gnome? Apr 23 13:44:59 Hurrian, no Apr 23 13:45:14 fs label is wrong, then Apr 23 13:45:18 you'd need to change it Apr 23 13:45:24 btw, it's vfat Apr 23 13:45:28 mlabel? Apr 23 13:46:28 i.e. it's the partition mounted as MyDocs on n900 Apr 23 13:48:31 yeah, real chance it's corrupted Apr 23 13:48:42 bad maemo reboots do damage mydocs Apr 23 13:48:49 mlabel is fine Apr 23 13:48:58 then a fsck after that Apr 23 13:50:11 Nokia-N900:~# mlabel -s i: Apr 23 13:50:18 Volume has no label Apr 23 13:50:43 Hurrian, there was a bad reboot yesterday Apr 23 13:51:16 Hurrian, what's the default label of that partition? Apr 23 13:51:23 MyDocs? Apr 23 13:51:35 none, i think, it was set by autorun.inf Apr 23 13:52:25 so, i shouldn't set label now, but do fsck? Apr 23 13:52:35 also, i: Apr 23 13:52:38 wat u doin Apr 23 13:53:02 mlabel -i /dev/mmcblk0p1 -s :: Apr 23 13:53:14 :) Apr 23 13:53:24 i've set drive in .mtoolsrc Apr 23 13:53:32 ah Apr 23 13:53:46 so i is /dev/mmcblk0p1 Apr 23 13:53:59 mlabel -i /dev/mmcblk0p1 i:MyDocs Apr 23 13:54:09 i don't have autorun.inf file on partition Apr 23 13:54:31 so just go set label now Apr 23 13:54:44 autorun.inf takes precedence over volume label on windows Apr 23 13:55:20 Raimu I've used maep for quick checking where I am and modRana can actually do turn-by-turn instructions (but is not *that* intuitive) and can search for stuff nearby Apr 23 13:56:00 woot Apr 23 13:56:06 Raimu afaik, there's nothing comparable to commercial stuff that's available for iOS etc, but they're still useful for me Apr 23 13:56:08 i love the scratchbox + sdk :)) Apr 23 13:56:35 Hurrian, did already Apr 23 13:56:45 Hurrian, also run check? Apr 23 13:56:50 yup Apr 23 13:57:07 if it still doesn't work, backup data and flatten mmcblk0p1 Apr 23 13:57:29 got my first apps compiled, now running all together i got motion detection with ffmpeg support and webstream over a tinc-vpn monitored by monit. yeah! Apr 23 14:00:06 Hurrian, works, thanks Apr 23 14:00:19 mk Apr 23 14:00:33 Hurrian, but label is now capitalized Apr 23 14:00:41 part of FAT Apr 23 14:00:54 FAT16/32 cannot have lowercase labels Apr 23 14:01:04 but before? Apr 23 14:01:10 it was MyDocs Apr 23 14:01:17 how was that possible? Apr 23 14:01:22 just interesting Apr 23 14:01:35 before, it was Nokia N900 Apr 23 14:01:40 set by autorun.inf Apr 23 14:02:09 btw, why that file misses here? Apr 23 14:02:22 i don't see it, even with ls -la Apr 23 14:02:26 ls ~/MyDocs/*.inf Apr 23 14:26:41 How would one compile the g-audio (audio gadget) kernel module for the N900? My laptop audio sucks and I would like to use the phone as a usb soundcard :) Apr 23 14:29:29 The best I could find on the subject is this post by pali: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1179743&postcount=1002 Apr 23 14:38:01 ErwinJunge: I would think some kind of networked sound server would do better Apr 23 14:40:07 luke-jr, I don't think that would solve my problem, since the dac in the laptop would still decode the audio in that case, right? I want to use the dac in the phone and preferably expose it via usb. Apr 23 14:42:33 ErwinJunge: uh, no? Apr 23 14:43:20 * lardman kicks himself, missing *2 prevented his PCI driver from working Apr 23 14:44:28 luke-jr, Anyways, I might as well try it if it is simpler than compiling the g-audio kernel module. Any idea on where to start with networked audio? Apr 23 14:47:40 http://uucode.com/blog/2008/09/30/multimedia-over-network-iii-any-alsa-enabled-application/ Apr 23 14:54:54 luke-jr, Thanks, that looks really useful :) Apr 23 14:55:26 I seem to remember however that there was some issue with streaming to/from the n900's pulseaudio due to a version problem or something? Apr 23 15:35:11 RST38h, UF is the OTHER big Florida university. I was at FSU. Apr 23 15:35:45 RST38h, UF is frattown. Apr 23 17:40:02 luke-jr, Thanks, got it to work using pulseaudio's esound-sink module, since the pulse version on the n900 is too old to communicate with my laptop in native mode. Apr 23 17:40:54 Still, if anyone on here by now knows: How would one go about compiling the g-audio (usb audio gadget) module for the n900? I'd like to use the phone as a usb sound card. Apr 23 17:52:32 Pali, You're the powerkernel guy, right? Could you give me some pointers regarding getting g-audio in there? Apr 23 17:57:35 ErwinJunge, g_audio is not in 2.6.28 kernel Apr 23 17:57:49 you need to backport that kernel module from upstream kernel Apr 23 17:58:05 Hm... is that as complicated as it sounds? :) Apr 23 17:58:26 for normal users, yes Apr 23 17:59:14 I'm a fortran 90 developer by trade and dabble in python as a hobby. Never worked on the kernel before though. Apr 23 18:00:25 I guess it's more complex than git clone; make? ;) Apr 23 18:00:29 basicaly, you need to copy g_audio source files from upstream kernel and try to compile it under maemo kernel Apr 23 18:00:53 and if there will be no other dependency or problems, it will works as expected Apr 23 18:01:41 but API in upstream kernel could be changed, so then you will need to rewrite some code Apr 23 18:03:59 Alright, doesn't sound too complex so far. I'll give it a shot later, need to set up the entire scratchbox again and don't have time for that now. Thanks for the info. Apr 23 18:29:11 ErwinJunge: would you bother to publish your esound-sink based solution? Apr 23 18:29:35 somewhere on tmo or (better) wiki Apr 23 18:30:09 lardman: congrats :-D Apr 23 18:30:48 always these byte/word/longword confusions? XP Apr 23 18:31:37 DocScrutinizer, sure, I'll write up a wiki thing. It's a bit buggy/laggy though. I'm trying to fix that now Apr 23 18:32:35 if you can't squish the bugs, just post as is and attribute is as "buggy but somewhat working" Apr 23 18:32:56 s/te is/te it/ Apr 23 18:32:57 DocScrutinizer meant: if you can't squish the bugs, just post as is and attribute it as "buggy but somewhat working" Apr 23 18:36:55 DocScrutinizer, is it possible to somehow update pulse on the N900? I remember something about problems with Nokia's modules, but bit foggy on the memory. Using the native tunneling would probably be a better solution than esound Apr 23 18:37:49 PA has blobs, so updating might get tricky Apr 23 18:40:00 hi, i cant find dh_make command as mentioned on the 'maemo sdk howto packaging site' in my scratchbox maemo 5 sdk, dehelper is already installed. how can i get dh_make? Apr 23 18:53:21 DocScrutinizer51, but some (or all?) was opened in meego.gitorious.org Apr 23 18:53:44 only missing proper debian/* files, so creating packages will no be simple Apr 23 18:53:46 alas not all Apr 23 18:54:02 I will look at closed packages wiki Apr 23 18:54:32 XPROT for example is still an annoying mytery afaik Apr 23 18:55:13 xprot? Apr 23 18:55:36 speaker protection Apr 23 18:56:08 seems all closed pulseaudio modules are on http://meego.gitorious.org/maemo-multimedia/pulseaudio-modules-meego Apr 23 18:56:12 afaik there are some others besides this one which are still (C)nokia and closed Apr 23 18:56:15 but no idea if same source Apr 23 18:56:41 all *.so files can be builded from that repo Apr 23 18:57:35 :shrug: no clue about PA, except I despise it. But I always thought PA has pretty few .so Apr 23 18:57:43 and package pulseaudio-policy-enforcement has fremantle source code here: http://meego.gitorious.org/maemo-multimedia/pulseaudio-policy-enforcement/trees/398b87a9d6a10c4fab03e15d83bcd8dba4bc49d7 Apr 23 18:58:02 OMFG Apr 23 18:58:16 Not sure if my messages came through: ErwinJunge> Laggyness is gone when using usb networking, so it seems to be a bandwidth issue with my wifi Apr 23 18:58:17 It also has the interesting side-effect of slaughtering my internet connection :) Apr 23 18:59:03 ErwinJunge: get better AP, or switch to PSM=off Apr 23 18:59:21 usually helps cure lags Apr 23 18:59:35 of WLAN Apr 23 18:59:45 How would I do the psm=off thing? Apr 23 19:00:11 on "advanced" tab of arbitrary wlan connection setting Apr 23 19:00:35 actually, of the wlan connection you're trying to fix Apr 23 19:00:57 PSM is per connection. Only TX-power is global Apr 23 19:03:13 Pali: I'd say gitorious.org is pretty much down Apr 23 19:03:29 aaah, finished loading after only 120s Apr 23 19:04:22 Well, that worked. How bad is this for my battery? Apr 23 19:05:58 rather nasty Apr 23 19:06:17 only while connected to thia AP though Apr 23 19:07:26 switching to TX-power=10mW might help a little to make it less nasty Apr 23 19:07:44 Considering that I'm at home now, this is the AP I'm connected to most :) Apr 23 19:07:53 http://pastebin.com/w3ZuN3rE --> how's that for a howto? Apr 23 19:08:27 Where the ip should obviously be replaced by whatever ip your phone has Apr 23 19:09:10 sure Apr 23 19:09:18 looks rather nice Apr 23 19:09:20 Any AP settings I can tweak to make the psm work better? Apr 23 19:09:33 depends on your AP ;-D Apr 23 19:10:04 But generally looks/is worded like... Apr 23 19:10:18 picking a channel without interference from naighbour's WLAN is always a good start Apr 23 19:10:34 Already done :) Apr 23 19:11:01 I've got a linksys WAG160Nv2, with settings for just about everything. 99% of the stuff doesn't mean anything to me though. Apr 23 19:11:55 http://wiki.maemo.org/Wifi_Power_Saving_Mode_(PSM) Apr 23 19:14:53 Not really informative, just says "some routers have poor support" :) I'll try google Apr 23 19:15:02 http://features.techworld.com/mobile-wireless/4103/a-guide-to-wi-fi-power-save-technologies/ Apr 23 19:18:01 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/users/18057 Apr 23 19:21:15 http://www.lesswatts.org/tips/wireless.php Apr 23 19:25:42 good one:http://www.networkworld.com/newsletters/2007/0326wireless2.html Apr 23 19:27:32 nuff Apr 23 19:28:22 Yeah :) So the way I understand it is that while streaming audio to it it really doesn't matter (powerwise), since the connection should be on all the time anyways to receive audio. Apr 23 19:29:07 So I guess the best idea here would be some sort of desktop widget/switch thing to easily switch psm on/off for the current connection from the homescreen Apr 23 19:30:30 On to the wiki. Where would you suggest I put the howto? Apr 23 19:31:12 Related: how does this work? I've never edited a wiki before Apr 23 19:40:41 hmm, im getting crazy :) debhelper and all tat is installed as mentioned everywhere... but i still have no dh_make in my scratchbox. is there a trick? make a symlink to dh_something? was it renamed? Apr 23 19:41:48 log in? check $PATH? Apr 23 19:42:32 ErwinJunge: during audio it will automatically enter the always-on mode Apr 23 19:43:06 the problem is when you lose connectivity completely for seconds or minutes, when idling Apr 23 19:43:13 log in? im logged in to scratchbox, i can compile sources without problems Apr 23 19:43:23 hmm Apr 23 19:43:25 no idea Apr 23 19:43:46 then I never wrapped my head around SB completely Apr 23 19:43:55 i have a lot dh_xyz in /usr/bin Apr 23 19:44:08 better ask somebody who is used to this monster Apr 23 19:44:47 ErwinJunge: wiki is simple Apr 23 19:44:58 i thought it would be nicer to have .deb packages, but i think i will just make tgz with all files and a small installscript, hehe Apr 23 19:45:01 there's an edit button, and a help button Apr 23 19:45:04 like in good old times Apr 23 19:46:19 if you can't find a proper existing page, you simply enter URL of the "new" page you wanna create Apr 23 19:46:39 anyway you should register Apr 23 19:46:49 makes things a lot easier Apr 23 19:47:11 Did that part already :) Do you have a good suggestion for the location of the howto? Apr 23 19:47:29 sorry, didn't bother to check Apr 23 19:47:41 search for key terms Apr 23 19:47:53 there's a search feature Apr 23 19:48:16 dunno how much hits you'll get for 'audio' Apr 23 19:48:43 many* Apr 23 20:12:06 btw, if anybody got interested in my sharing plugin adventure: this cli share plugin just works great - scp to my server Apr 23 20:13:29 DocScrutinizer, what? Apr 23 20:13:29 scp -oServerAliveInterval=300 -oPort=999 %s docsftp@78.46.226.888:share-service/%s Apr 23 20:13:46 dockane: that's interesting, is this plugin available in extras? I just joined the discussion Apr 23 20:13:59 What does the plugin do? Apr 23 20:14:03 DocScrutinizer: ^ Apr 23 20:14:10 Also, how about http://wiki.maemo.org/Streaming_Audio_To_N900 for the howto? Apr 23 20:14:29 dockane: sorry, I missed the nickname) Apr 23 20:16:37 extras-devel Apr 23 20:16:43 ii sharing-cli 0.4 Command-Line Sharing Plugin Apr 23 20:18:13 ErwinJunge: sounds good Apr 23 20:20:02 (plugin) you don't need to bother to fill in "title" or "comment" when sharing, it's cruft Apr 23 20:20:33 and for obvious reasons "location" also won't work Apr 23 20:20:59 straight copy from N900 to server, same filename Apr 23 20:21:08 fixed dir Apr 23 20:21:24 I'm really not getting it. What does that plugin (a) plug into and (b) do after plugging into it? Apr 23 20:21:59 it plugs into the < shaped sharing button in e.g. gallery Apr 23 20:22:13 next to OVI and FLIKR Apr 23 20:22:23 Picasa Apr 23 20:23:07 create a "new account" and there it is Apr 23 20:23:54 pretty bare bones hardcore hacker "GUI" Apr 23 20:27:17 Ah, so not for me :) Could you see if the instructions in http://wiki.maemo.org/Streaming_Audio_To_N900 work for you? Apr 23 20:34:36 is there any widget which can display notifications passed to it in a preconfigured way? Apr 23 20:35:05 of course, i can write my own, but don't want reinvent vehicle :) Apr 23 20:38:33 (sharing plugin) http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/ Apr 23 20:38:49 vdv: see ~phonecontrol Apr 23 20:38:55 wiki Apr 23 20:39:05 ~phonecontrol Apr 23 20:39:09 hmm Apr 23 20:39:36 ~phonecontrol is http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control Apr 23 20:39:36 DocScrutinizer: okay Apr 23 20:40:33 vdv: http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#Send_notification_.28orange_one_line_popup.29 http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#Send_notification_.28orange_multiple_line_popup.29 http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#Send_dialog_notification_.28black.2Fwhite_with_floating_bar_and_confirmation_button.2C_requiring_user_action.29 Apr 23 20:41:11 DocScrutinizer, already familiar with that Apr 23 20:41:23 and it doesn't suite my needs Apr 23 20:41:43 because, it's not possible "update" such notifications Apr 23 20:42:13 not sute about that Apr 23 20:42:18 sure* Apr 23 20:42:20 in a way that modest notifications are done for example Apr 23 20:43:02 http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#Make_an_.22Email_Style.22_notification_dialog Apr 23 20:43:32 i.e. you receive notification aboute 3 new mails, then you got another two, and then modest just updates one notification popup, sets number of notifications to two, and number of emails to five Apr 23 20:44:39 hmm.. i didn't tried that Apr 23 20:44:44 *try Apr 23 20:44:58 i dont know why Apr 23 20:45:39 spend so much to for pynotify based approach Apr 23 20:45:48 *so much time Apr 23 20:46:25 DocScrutinizer, i'll check whether that works for me, thanks! Apr 23 20:48:01 ErwinJunge: I can't check this right now, out for dinner in a minute Apr 23 20:48:11 sorry Apr 23 20:48:49 and :-P I got PA deinstalled on my PC Apr 23 20:52:37 DocScrutinizer, np, it works for me, but having at least one more testing point would be nice :) Apr 24 00:10:09 blah Apr 24 00:10:21 using my damn n900 like a nit heh Apr 24 00:10:24 lame Apr 24 00:13:09 it seems to be acting better tho Apr 24 00:13:17 the sim seems to last longer Apr 24 00:13:30 but it cuts off every now and then :( **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Apr 24 02:59:58 2012