**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun May 06 03:00:02 2012
May 06 03:05:41 <DocScrutinizer> well
May 06 06:41:36 <CyFus> hey does anyone have the KDE install files for the n800? penguinbait's site has been offline for a while and I can't reach him
May 06 06:43:19 <CyFus> i would be ever so grateful if someone still has the KDE358v2.tar.bz2 and SUPv4.tgz files, they fell down a black hole it seems
May 06 09:35:17 <elkng> what is maemo ? is it similar to android ?
May 06 09:38:38 <elkng> is maemo only for nokia ?
May 06 09:39:36 <dm8tbr> maemo was a mobile phone operating system by nokia
May 06 09:40:15 <Tofe> The only similarity with Android is that its kernel is Linux.
May 06 09:41:09 <elkng> it cant be installen on smartphones other than nokia ?
May 06 09:42:32 <dm8tbr> it could, significant work would be required
May 06 09:42:47 <dm8tbr> some of the open source components have been successfully been reused
May 06 09:42:52 <dm8tbr> see hildon/cordia
May 06 09:44:38 <Tofe> It would require an adapted kernel, plus an adapted boot sequence. And some specific non-open hardware stuff wouldn't work (likely to be GSM, GPS...)
May 06 09:49:32 <dm8tbr> foremost: phone capabilities would be unlikely to work OOtB
May 06 11:03:15 <DocScrutinizer> since when got android a linux kernel?
May 06 11:04:22 <DocScrutinizer> I rather thought the brainless hacks to kernel were a main reason NOT to call andridiot any linux
May 06 11:05:08 <DocScrutinizer> if andridiot is linux, bsd and solaris are too ;-P
May 06 11:09:13 <DocScrutinizer> it's plain funny how everybody incl my employer says linux when they mean andridiot
May 06 14:03:03 <LaoLang_cool> hello, how to find a pkg's old version file?
May 06 14:04:28 <psycho_oreos> apt-cache policy <pkg>
May 06 14:08:07 <LaoLang_cool> psycho_oreos, I want to download the file from pc :)
May 06 14:08:37 <LaoLang_cool> I want to install openfetion which needs turn the testing or dev repo on
May 06 14:09:24 <LaoLang_cool> but I don't want to turn it on just for openfetion, so I want to download the file from pc, and I also want to download some older versions, because the newer version doesn't work properly
May 06 14:11:36 <eichi_> hello. I'm searching for a good way to syncronize my music from computer and n900. someone has an idea? rsync with obxfs mount has a lot of encoding problems while copying. Not usable
May 06 14:12:32 <psycho_oreos> LaoLang_cool, so whats wrong with maemo.org's front-end package site?
May 06 14:13:23 <LaoLang_cool> psycho_oreos, I can't download old version of the file, say: http://maintenance.maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/openfetion/2.0-2/
May 06 14:13:34 <LaoLang_cool> The requested URL /extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/o/openfetion/openfetion_2.0-2_armel.deb was not found on this server.
May 06 14:14:26 <LaoLang_cool> seems it only preserve for  the file of the latest version
May 06 14:14:46 <psycho_oreos> LaoLang_cool, version 2.0.1 is on the server however
May 06 14:15:35 <LaoLang_cool> psycho_oreos, that's the lastest version, but it has login issue...
May 06 14:15:56 <LaoLang_cool> older version doesn't have such issue, but I can't find the file of them..
May 06 14:18:32 <psycho_oreos> LaoLang_cool, what's wrong with using pidgin plugin based on that protocol?
May 06 14:20:00 <LaoLang_cool> psycho_oreos, it doesn't work at all, can't login by it too
May 06 14:21:35 <psycho_oreos> do you recall the version before 2.0.1?
May 06 14:25:01 <psycho_oreos> actually jacekowski has a mirrored copy on his server, that exact same version 2.0-2
May 06 14:27:16 <LaoLang_cool> psycho_oreos, I've reflashed my N900, then I realize I didn't backup the old version of openfetion, it works fine, but  it's gone...
May 06 14:27:40 <LaoLang_cool> I used version 1.8
May 06 14:35:03 <psycho_oreos> LaoLang_cool, at least the sources are there, I guess it'll be time for you to build the package by hand and install it
May 06 14:41:59 <LaoLang_cool> psycho_oreos, ok..
May 06 14:59:28 <DocScrutinizer> I think merlin1991 has a mirror that doesn't clean out old revisions
May 06 15:00:47 <LaoLang_cool> DocScrutinizer, where is it?
May 06 15:01:00 <merlin1991> file in question isn't there though
May 06 15:01:02 <DocScrutinizer> I don't know
May 06 15:01:10 <merlin1991> it seems it got removed before I started the mirror
May 06 15:01:19 <merlin1991> the mirror itself is @ http://maemo.merlin1991.at/apt-mirror
May 06 15:03:00 <LaoLang_cool> merlin1991, hmm..
May 06 15:03:19 <LaoLang_cool> anyway, I got a version of 1.8 from a forum :)
May 06 15:03:45 <LaoLang_cool> it works now, I will save the file carefully
May 06 15:52:25 <mare> ciao
May 06 15:52:33 <mare> !list
May 06 19:40:38 <spark666> does the Enhaned Linux Kernel for power users is still up-to-date?and does it work ok whit pr1.3,and cssu testing?
May 06 19:43:07 <peterbjornx> pr1.3 should work
May 06 19:43:12 <DocScrutinizer> spark666: basically yes
May 06 19:43:21 <DocScrutinizer> KP50 
May 06 19:43:28 <spark666> peterbjornx: DocScrutinizer tnx both
May 06 19:43:38 <spark666> ill give it a try now :D
May 06 19:43:40 <NIN101> but maemo kernels in general are kinda outdated(2.6.28)
May 06 19:43:50 <DocScrutinizer> who cares?
May 06 19:43:58 <peterbjornx> would a linux 3.0 work?
May 06 19:44:04 <peterbjornx> just wondering
May 06 19:44:10 <NIN101> not on maemo.
May 06 19:44:15 <peterbjornx> in general kernels are compatible right?
May 06 19:44:28 <DocScrutinizer> what's the acme app you can't do due to missing kernel features that are only available in kernel3.0?
May 06 19:44:57 <peterbjornx> nothing, was just wondering
May 06 19:45:31 <NIN101> the big question is: 1. security vulnerabilities? 2. kernel enhencements in general. Big yes, actually it doesn't matter. 
May 06 19:45:35 <NIN101> *but yes.
May 06 20:21:35 * spark666 back
May 06 20:21:42 <spark666> the kernel works good
May 06 20:22:08 <spark666> and i think i see an improvement now at 850 overclocked cpu
May 06 21:18:07 <MohammadAG> chem|st, I think it's better this thread gets closed http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1202707#post1202707
May 06 21:18:34 <DocScrutinizer> OT: haha http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/t9qxy/reaching_the_limits_of_adobe_stupidity/c4kswc6
May 06 21:20:49 <bennypr0fane> hello, I have a problem with kernel configuration. I get "not found" for kernel-config commands
May 06 21:21:58 <bennypr0fane> I'm running kp50
May 06 21:22:15 <bennypr0fane> just installed kernel-power-settings 0.14
May 06 21:22:58 <bennypr0fane> I wanted to check the configuration and save QCPUfreq settings
May 06 21:23:25 * DocScrutinizer sighs, shrugs, turns away
May 06 21:24:25 * bennypr0fane is wondering whether away from him or the world
May 06 21:24:48 <DocScrutinizer> from anything smelling like OC
May 06 21:25:20 <bennypr0fane> well am I at least allowed to talk about it by now?
May 06 21:26:08 <bennypr0fane> Or is it still customary in here to get bounced just for asking about it?
May 06 21:26:13 <DocScrutinizer> you know why both kernel-power ans kp-settings are still around? Because each devel could point at the other app being the one causing damage to your device
May 06 21:27:26 <bennypr0fane> ...about my question?
May 06 21:27:37 <bennypr0fane> (the last one)
May 06 21:27:55 <freemangordon> kernal-config show?
May 06 21:28:03 <freemangordon> *kernel-config
May 06 21:28:25 <bennypr0fane> I was asking whether I'm allowed to ask about this topic
May 06 21:28:35 <bennypr0fane> or it will get me banned to do so
May 06 21:28:45 <freemangordon> Don't think so
May 06 21:28:46 <bennypr0fane> I was also called names last times
May 06 21:28:53 <bennypr0fane> for no reason
May 06 21:29:02 <bennypr0fane> *last time
May 06 21:29:37 <bennypr0fane> so will it do damage to my device if I *show* the curretn configuration?
May 06 21:29:52 <freemangordon> no
May 06 21:30:08 <freemangordon> do (as root) kernel-config show
May 06 21:30:57 <bennypr0fane> ok, it was sudo
May 06 21:31:04 <FIQ|n900> hm
May 06 21:31:29 <bennypr0fane> it didn't think of that bc output was just "not found"
May 06 21:32:03 <freemangordon> bennypr0fane, no it is "root", and after getting # - kernel-config show
May 06 21:32:03 <bennypr0fane> I thought it was supposed to give me a hint that I needed to be root
May 06 21:33:26 <bennypr0fane> the thing of when sudo is necessary and when it's not still eludes me sometimes
May 06 21:34:23 <bennypr0fane> however, I'm pretty sure people use kernel-power not just for oc'ing
May 06 21:39:26 <bennypr0fane> changing subject: I can't get a GPS fix, ever - no matter in what application. Any hints where I might start to look for the problem?
May 06 21:41:11 <freemangordon> bennypr0fane, change sever to supl.google.com
May 06 21:41:15 <freemangordon> *server
May 06 21:43:14 <bennypr0fane> is that in the general settings?
May 06 21:44:43 <freemangordon> settings->location
May 06 21:44:57 <bennypr0fane> thanks!
May 06 21:52:54 <peterbjornx> gps server?
May 06 21:56:07 <bennypr0fane> still can't seem to get a fix...
May 06 21:57:20 <bennypr0fane> btw freemangordon, are there plans for building a portrait virtual keyboard into CSSU?
May 06 21:59:00 <bennypr0fane> yay! my gps is back, finally!
May 06 22:00:06 * spark666 is happy whit the new kernel and tweaks ! :D
May 06 22:00:22 <MrPingu> No there aren't plans AFAIK, however I would love to see a good portrait vkb...
May 06 22:01:44 <bennypr0fane> MrPingu you sure aren't the only one
May 06 22:03:04 <bennypr0fane> I would even content myself with just getting an answer for once, even if it's just "no, not gonna happen", it would be better than just getting ignored...
May 06 22:03:51 * bennypr0fane also loves the new kernel specifically because the bluetooth headset issue is finally taken care of
May 06 22:04:37 <spark666> bennypr0fane: and i overclocked it to 850
May 06 22:04:40 <spark666> :D
May 06 22:05:07 <MrPingu> benny0fane , l I think I can answer that. I believe I read somewhere that it won't happen.
May 06 22:05:15 <bennypr0fane> another question been bothering me: is there going to be real portrait mode for all the stock apps in CSSU?
May 06 22:05:29 <bennypr0fane> MrPingu where was thaT?
May 06 22:06:33 <spark666> i hate the protrait ways of cssu,i wish i could have rotation again just in faster app manager contacts and phone calls oohh and browser
May 06 22:06:45 <spark666> i hate when my desktop rotates
May 06 22:06:46 <spark666> :P
May 06 22:06:52 <bennypr0fane> real portrait mode at least in Conversations would be awesome. And media Player, maps... (oh wait that's closed source - again!)
May 06 22:07:28 <bennypr0fane> spark666 but you can, it's easy
May 06 22:07:40 <bennypr0fane> just lock autorotate in CSSU settings
May 06 22:07:42 <spark666> bennypr0fane: teach me :D
May 06 22:07:45 <spark666> ohh
May 06 22:07:52 <spark666> thats what i do lol
May 06 22:07:59 <spark666> but it blcks all
May 06 22:08:34 <spark666> i want just the default ones to rotate like in default pr 1.3 :P
May 06 22:09:25 <bennypr0fane> u mean it also keeps phone and browser form roatating?
May 06 22:09:55 <spark666> yes if i use the status bar shortcut to block rotation
May 06 22:10:47 <bennypr0fane> try power button menu>cssu features
May 06 22:11:26 <bennypr0fane> if there isn't a sinple way to set it in there, I'm sure there is a way to make it the way you want it
May 06 22:11:42 <spark666> i have just 2 options for rotation there,the axis and for apps
May 06 22:12:32 <spark666> none for desktops and stuffs,or to choose what to rotate and what not
May 06 22:13:53 <bennypr0fane> if under "rotation" you set "applications" to "default", it should do as you want
May 06 22:14:41 <spark666> its set to default and still my desktop rotates and other things i dont want
May 06 22:14:58 <bennypr0fane> hmmm
May 06 22:15:13 <bennypr0fane> have you searched the forums?
May 06 22:15:32 <MrPingu> It's a gconf value that needs to be changed
May 06 22:15:52 <MrPingu> *My internet is cactus
May 06 22:15:54 <spark666> MrPingu: humm didnt think about that
May 06 22:16:52 <MrPingu> spark666, I believe it's covered on the cssu features wiki ;)
May 06 22:17:18 <MrPingu> Btw which flavour are you on? T or S?
May 06 22:17:20 <spark666> yes MrPingu but i tought that are by default for pr1.3
May 06 22:17:22 <bennypr0fane> spark666 http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Features
May 06 22:17:24 <spark666> testing
May 06 22:18:59 <spark666> i like bleeding edge :D
May 06 22:19:00 <MrPingu> Second last item from the link bennypr0fane gave ;)
May 06 22:19:14 <bennypr0fane> Disable rotation of desktop     gconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/desktop_orientation_lock -t bool true
May 06 22:19:34 <spark666> humm
May 06 22:19:37 <MrPingu> Me too, but I don't like unstable software
May 06 22:20:25 <bennypr0fane> spark666 best go through the whole page, it should give you a solution for all rotation settings
May 06 22:20:32 <MrPingu> However I don't mind testing so every now and then and I know my way round so I am on testing too ;)
May 06 22:20:43 <spark666> humm MrPingu what linux distro u use?
May 06 22:21:02 <MrPingu> hehe backtrack :P
May 06 22:21:09 <spark666> :P
May 06 22:21:51 <MrPingu> Runned 2 months ubuntu but I didn't like it at all
May 06 22:22:13 <spark666> i dont like ubuntu either
May 06 22:22:21 <spark666> i test them all i guess
May 06 22:22:37 <MrPingu> Now I am at OSX, and damn what a strange OS...
May 06 22:22:44 <spark666> the most beautifull was arch linux and now im on gentoo that rocks :d
May 06 22:23:20 <spark666> osx its nice but to closed source :P
May 06 22:23:24 <bennypr0fane> omg arch linux did that not take you forever to set up?
May 06 22:23:33 <spark666> nope
May 06 22:23:47 <spark666> arch it fast it has binary pkgs
May 06 22:23:49 <peterbjornx> gentoo is slow when installing
May 06 22:23:59 <peterbjornx> its a source distro
May 06 22:24:04 <MrPingu> I had problems with arch, gave me troubles at post-install
May 06 22:24:19 <spark666> it takes a while to installdrivers and all couse you have to do it whit ur hand from console
May 06 22:24:25 <peterbjornx> i always used SuSE
May 06 22:24:28 <ThreeM> mint :)
May 06 22:24:34 <peterbjornx> but current opensuse just sucks
May 06 22:24:34 <MrPingu> No OSX is kinda clumsy with windows
May 06 22:24:35 <ThreeM> mint debian edition
May 06 22:24:37 <spark666> MrPingu: anytime you want i can give you a hand
May 06 22:24:40 <ThreeM> and im happy with it
May 06 22:25:03 <bennypr0fane> gotta say the wiki section for cssu is a bit out of date
May 06 22:25:12 <MrPingu> After my Exams I will have a play again with arch
May 06 22:25:23 * bennypr0fane uses bodhi linux on laptop
May 06 22:25:27 <spark666> ThreeM: that was my fav mint :X
May 06 22:25:37 <MrPingu> last week I loaded a usb with live OpenSuSe ;)
May 06 22:25:40 <ThreeM> runs pretty good atm
May 06 22:25:45 <bennypr0fane> and SUSE on desktop, got really frustrateds
May 06 22:26:14 <bennypr0fane> I want things to just work out of the bpox as mcuh as possible
May 06 22:26:23 <bennypr0fane> not the case with suse
May 06 22:26:30 <MrPingu> Still I thing I am indoctrinated by windows :P
May 06 22:26:30 <spark666> for me it matters very much to be in control and to learn from it
May 06 22:26:37 <MrPingu> * I think
May 06 22:26:52 <bennypr0fane> MrPingu what you mean by indoctrinated
May 06 22:27:45 <MrPingu> That I am still most productive at windows and I think it's still the best desktop OS
May 06 22:27:58 <bennypr0fane> hmmm
May 06 22:28:02 <MrPingu> (if you reinstall it every 6 months)
May 06 22:28:07 <peterbjornx> i gotta admit, my primary OS is windows too
May 06 22:28:24 <peterbjornx> just cause else i'd have to use mac osx
May 06 22:28:28 <ThreeM> winodws 7 is my secondary os, just to load some games and for videoediting
May 06 22:28:29 <bennypr0fane> Windows is just more mature in office productivity
May 06 22:28:55 <bennypr0fane> and you do get much more "works-ootb"
May 06 22:29:03 <spark666> btw
May 06 22:29:17 <MrPingu> Yeah and as I am still at highschool and we are forced to use microsoft office
May 06 22:29:22 <spark666> do i need to reboot my phone after that gconf command?lol
May 06 22:29:44 <bennypr0fane> spark666 not if it's not in the wiki
May 06 22:29:47 <MrPingu> only restart hildon-desktop I think
May 06 22:30:08 <spark666> now it doesnt have any effect
May 06 22:30:14 <spark666> so better ill restart
May 06 22:30:16 <spark666> :p
May 06 22:30:42 <MrPingu> OSX offers office too, but I just don't like it. Always fighting with lost windows :P
May 06 22:31:14 <MrPingu> Windows getting behind other windows, not minimalizing
May 06 22:31:26 <bennypr0fane> Yeah, just that the most advanced Office solution for OSX is MS Office
May 06 22:32:04 <bennypr0fane> That's the great thing about Linuxes, you can have exactly your way
May 06 22:32:31 <MrPingu> Only, it takes time to set up...
May 06 22:32:32 <bennypr0fane> you can just make the desktop behave as you want it to
May 06 22:32:34 <SpeedEvil> bennypr0fane: As long as you never update
May 06 22:32:51 <bennypr0fane> SpeedEvil update what?
May 06 22:33:11 <SpeedEvil> bennypr0fane: For example, ubuntu's latest UI change
May 06 22:33:41 <peterbjornx> jsut apt-get install gnome-desktop
May 06 22:33:45 <FIQ|n900> depends on your distro really
May 06 22:33:47 <bennypr0fane> Precise Unity is supposed to be much improved
May 06 22:33:47 <peterbjornx> and use gnome classic :)
May 06 22:33:58 <ThreeM> i like gnome-shell :)
May 06 22:33:59 <peterbjornx> *apt-get install gnome
May 06 22:34:09 <bennypr0fane> I'm going to give Unity a chance
May 06 22:34:12 <SpeedEvil> At some point, the deprecated shell tends to stop working (well)
May 06 22:34:50 <MrPingu> Why has the menu for launching an app have to cover more that 3/4 of the screen?
May 06 22:35:35 <SpeedEvil> Every single interface has to be designed to be used by a 3 year-old on a 2" screen
May 06 22:35:36 <MrPingu> Give me just the small startbutton and a text menu haha
May 06 22:35:50 <FIQ|n900> also is it just me or are the buttons in youtube's player absent on N900 since a few days back?
May 06 22:36:38 <MrPingu> Idk, I use cutetube
May 06 22:37:38 <FIQ|n900> hmm
May 06 22:38:04 <spark666> didnt worked :(
May 06 22:38:19 <spark666> told you that article its deprecated :P
May 06 22:38:52 <FIQ|n900> it would be nice if the terminal somehow remembered your commands in a way that made it possible to tabcomplete more than just the command (i.e. the params as well)
May 06 22:39:04 <MrPingu> ~jrtools
May 06 22:39:04 <infobot> i heard jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools
May 06 22:40:13 <MrPingu> gconftool-2 --set /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/ui_can_rotate -t bool false
May 06 22:40:24 <bennypr0fane> spark666 I think you need the changed settings before you restart
May 06 22:40:39 <bennypr0fane> *need to save the
May 06 22:40:42 <spark666> huh?
May 06 22:40:56 <spark666> in cssu setting gui?
May 06 22:41:09 <bennypr0fane> no
May 06 22:41:14 <bennypr0fane> in terminal
May 06 22:41:21 <spark666> how?
May 06 22:41:42 <MrPingu> Or you can install gconf editor to have a gui
May 06 22:42:03 <MrPingu> It's a bit like regedit
May 06 22:42:08 <spark666> i know to use that command,but how to save it?
May 06 22:42:20 <MrPingu> I told ya, been using windows too much XD
May 06 22:42:34 <spark666> lol :P
May 06 22:42:48 <spark666> brb to make a coffee
May 06 22:42:50 <spark666> :D
May 06 22:42:59 <MrPingu> Need some sleep
May 06 22:43:20 <MrPingu> instead of coffee, atleast that would be better
May 06 22:43:31 <spark666> :P
May 06 22:43:39 <bennypr0fane> spark666 Applying the changes to transitions.ini 
May 06 22:43:39 <bennypr0fane> Some of these changes (taskswitcher, zaxisrotation, forcerotation) apply as soon as you save the file, while others (blurless) require you to restart hildon-desktop. You can do so by turning the phone off and on again, or running as root: 
May 06 22:43:40 <bennypr0fane> killall hildon-desktop
May 06 22:43:40 <bennypr0fane> This will kill the hildon-desktop process, and it will be automatically restarted with the changed settings loaded and applied. Be sure not to "killall hildon-desktop" too often in a row (like several times in one minute), or the system will restart (nothing dangerous, though - just an annoyance).
May 06 22:43:50 <bennypr0fane> quoting from Wiki
May 06 22:44:04 <DocScrutinizer> echo -e '#!/bin/sh\ngconftool-2 --set /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/ui_can_rotate -t bool false" >/usr/local/bin/lockCSSUrotation; chmod +x /usr/local/bin/lockCSSUrotation
May 06 22:44:12 <bennypr0fane> MrPingu I'm actually going for coffee
May 06 22:44:22 <DocScrutinizer> spark666: ^^^
May 06 22:44:56 <MrPingu> Well I am going for sleep. only 5 and half hours left before I need to get up -.-
May 06 22:45:08 <peterbjornx> lucky you
May 06 22:45:14 <bennypr0fane> MrPingu then you better
May 06 22:45:22 <peterbjornx> with the amount of homework i have left i dont think im going to get any sleep
May 06 22:45:24 <bennypr0fane> good night
May 06 22:46:02 <DocScrutinizer> on cssu it shouldn't reboot the phone anymore
May 06 22:46:20 <DocScrutinizer> I think I made this patched
May 06 22:46:26 <MrPingu> haha peterbjornx, I know that kind of pressure :P
May 06 22:46:56 <MrPingu> well, bye!
May 06 22:47:59 * DocScrutinizer idly ponders to do for (i=0; i<6; i++); do killall hildon-desktop; sleep 3; done;
May 06 22:48:47 <bennypr0fane> c u guys, have a good one!
May 06 22:49:31 <DocScrutinizer> merlin1991: what's CSSU supposed to do now when HD keeps quitting? some fb shell?
May 06 22:50:03 <DocScrutinizer> ooh wait, we don't even need HD to open osso-xterm
May 06 22:50:38 <DocScrutinizer> so I suppose it should enter a terminal when you kill hildon-desktop too frequently
May 06 23:30:13 <spark666> why i have the unknown at the end?
May 06 23:30:32 <spark666>  $ uname -a
May 06 23:30:42 <FIQ|n900> uhm
May 06 23:30:55 <spark666> Linux Nokia-N900 2.6.28.10-power50 #1 PREEMPT Sun Mar 18 20:10:56 EET 2012 armv7l unknown
May 06 23:30:58 <FIQ|n900> "mcenfioptionstreeview"
May 06 23:31:09 <FIQ|n900> I have a feeling this is CSSU-related
May 06 23:37:25 <LaoLang_cool> Hi, I'm searching for xsel for maemo but without luck, any hint?
May 06 23:37:36 <LaoLang_cool> I've found it before...
May 06 23:37:47 <LaoLang_cool> But I can't recall where it is
May 06 23:38:47 <LaoLang_cool> ok, sorry for noise, I found it at http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=34550&page=257 :)
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