**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jun 14 02:59:58 2012
Jun 14 03:17:47 <internetishard> how do you toggle skype on/off easily?
Jun 14 03:28:16 <antman8969> does anyone know why the nitdroid installer no longer works? It appears the img file it tries to download is no longer there, but is this intentional?
Jun 14 08:52:18 <DocScrutinizer51> mhm, Nokia fires another 10000 til 2013
Jun 14 10:51:23 <l0lcat> If Nokia keep getting cheaper, we could probably  just buy the whole company
Jun 14 10:51:33 <l0lcat> 110 billion in 2007
Jun 14 10:51:44 <l0lcat> 9.8 billion in 2012
Jun 14 10:52:06 <l0lcat> In 2022 it will be pretty cheap
Jun 14 10:52:22 <l0lcat> Like 99m
Jun 14 10:52:28 <Corsac> do you have them?
Jun 14 11:00:25 <l0lcat> Corsac: 99m euros?
Jun 14 11:08:25 <ruskie> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/14/nokia_job_losses_struggles/ <-- so much for burning platforms...
Jun 14 11:13:19 <Darkchaos> Anyone also having Problems with the Removal of the SimSlot on his E7
Jun 14 11:13:42 <chem|st> Darkchaos: wrong channel
Jun 14 11:44:45 <Estel_> merlin1991,  ping
Jun 14 11:48:32 <StyXman> claw: lemme guess: cat on keyboard
Jun 14 12:10:02 <Estel_> merlin1991,  ping
Jun 14 12:10:29 <Estel_> merlin1991,  urgent, see PM as soon as You arrive, please
Jun 14 16:16:30 <kuppo> Hey.... let's buy nokia. We could try Kickstarter. Would be funny to see how high it could rise. Rewards: part of Nokia, new Linux mobile (maybe RMS compatible).
Jun 14 17:19:00 <ZogG_N9> Estel_, ping
Jun 14 17:19:27 <Estel_> ZogG_N9,  pong
Jun 14 17:19:38 <Venemo_N9> hey
Jun 14 17:19:52 <Estel_> hi there
Jun 14 17:20:40 <Estel_> my poor N900... Some people will get heart attack, after I'll post photos of it's motherboard after bq chip amputation :(
Jun 14 17:21:23 <ZogG_N9> Estel_, may i query?
Jun 14 17:21:28 <Estel_> of course
Jun 14 17:21:41 <SpeedEvil> Estel_: Why?
Jun 14 17:22:12 <Estel_> SpeedEvil,  I was experimenting with modifications to motherboard done via my CNC precise machine, and I failed miserably at one step
Jun 14 17:22:15 <Estel_> my fault
Jun 14 17:22:34 <Estel_> effect was N900 that turned itself on as soon as battery was inserted and looping in actdead, OR
Jun 14 17:22:39 <Estel_> if I manage to turn it on
Jun 14 17:22:53 <Estel_> hanging just aftert hildon-desktop
Jun 14 17:23:07 <Estel_> and using 500 mA per hour on idlee, on it's own
Jun 14 17:23:11 <SpeedEvil> oops
Jun 14 17:23:16 <Estel_> I've screwed bq chip :/
Jun 14 17:23:29 <Estel_> I'm on trip with my N900 as main computer...
Jun 14 17:23:35 <SpeedEvil> Oh dear.
Jun 14 17:23:50 <Estel_> I had to cut off part of motherboard, literally, (!!!) to have bootable device
Jun 14 17:24:10 <Estel_> now, everything except charging and usbm works
Jun 14 17:24:16 <Estel_> (usb port is non existent too)
Jun 14 17:24:18 <Venemo_N9> Estel_, maybe you should not have experimented with it at this time?
Jun 14 17:24:30 <Estel_> hehe, lets say it was justified risk
Jun 14 17:24:32 <Estel_> anyway
Jun 14 17:24:35 <SpeedEvil> What do you mean a 'cnc precise machine'
Jun 14 17:24:48 <SpeedEvil> Woudln't it have been more simple just to replace the BQ* chip?
Jun 14 17:25:05 <Estel_> cnc mill
Jun 14 17:25:10 <SpeedEvil> Or did you rip pads off
Jun 14 17:25:11 <Estel_> I'm doing body replacement
Jun 14 17:25:17 <Estel_> worse than that
Jun 14 17:25:19 <dmsuperman> I know this is #maemo but I have an n800 and I was wondering if anybody knew about running android on it
Jun 14 17:25:28 <Estel_> my pads were literally melted with shield
Jun 14 17:25:30 <dmsuperman> Or knew of a good place to ask
Jun 14 17:25:35 <jaska> n... 800? unlikely
Jun 14 17:25:48 <dmsuperman> There's a video and a couple guides from 3 years ago
Jun 14 17:25:51 <dmsuperman> of it working
Jun 14 17:25:55 <Estel_> I mean, that +5V, USB data - were connected with mass for good
Jun 14 17:25:59 <Venemo_N9> dmsuperman, you are looking for some old nitdroid stuff
Jun 14 17:26:01 <Estel_> unseparateable
Jun 14 17:26:10 <Estel_> melted inside PCB
Jun 14 17:26:17 <dmsuperman> Venemo_N9: Seems like the website is down though :(
Jun 14 17:26:21 <dmsuperman> I'm guessing I'm just out of luck
Jun 14 17:26:27 <dmsuperman> Does maemo still support the n800?
Jun 14 17:26:33 <Estel_> had to amputate offending part of PCB
Jun 14 17:26:39 <ZogG_N9> Estel_, hmm, i queried you =)
Jun 14 17:26:45 <Estel_> oh, sorry
Jun 14 17:27:40 <Estel_> anyway, I'm now able to use device like one with broken usb port (although, mine is unrepairable by any means), so I'll also get my data
Jun 14 17:28:17 <Estel_> and transfer it as soosn as I'll get new mobo
Jun 14 17:28:23 <Venemo_N9> Estel_, but what did you want to achieve?
Jun 14 17:29:08 <SpeedEvil> dmsuperman: I've never heard of anyone running android on 800
Jun 14 17:30:33 <dmsuperman> Can I still install the latest maemo onto an n800? And does anybody know if there's something like airfoil for it?
Jun 14 17:30:46 <jacekowski> nope
Jun 14 17:30:51 <dmsuperman> nope to the first?
Jun 14 17:30:55 <jacekowski> yep
Jun 14 17:31:05 <dmsuperman> damn
Jun 14 17:31:08 <dmsuperman> brick device :(
Jun 14 17:31:53 <Venemo_N9> N800 runs maemo 4.1 and that's all
Jun 14 17:32:01 <Estel_> which isn't bad at all
Jun 14 17:32:27 <dmsuperman> How might I browse the packages available for maemo4.1?
Jun 14 17:32:31 <dmsuperman> Maybe I could use pulseaudio
Jun 14 17:32:42 <dmsuperman> This looks somewhat promising: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63631
Jun 14 17:33:57 <dmsuperman> Like this page doesn't meniton maemo 4 at all: http://maemo.org/packages/view/pulseaudio/
Jun 14 17:34:58 <dmsuperman> Aha, that's because they introduced PA in maemo 5
Jun 14 17:35:08 <dmsuperman> So I'm guessing it wasn't backported
Jun 14 17:55:02 <Estel_> ZogG,  generally I agree
Jun 14 17:55:15 <Estel_> we've already started discussions about how to improve it :)
Jun 14 17:55:24 <Estel_> I hope for effects soon
Jun 14 17:55:49 <Estel_> ouh, it seems that my camera doesn't work too
Jun 14 17:55:52 <Estel_> :/
Jun 14 17:58:33 <ZogG> Estel_ lol you answered here
Jun 14 17:58:44 <Estel_> yea, as You disconnected
Jun 14 17:58:50 <ZogG> Estel_, oh
Jun 14 17:58:51 <Estel_> as ZogG_N9
Jun 14 17:59:22 <ZogG> i even don't know what last thing i sent
Jun 14 18:02:32 <ZogG> Estel_ i just got tire to answer politely and and i got warnings from moderators on answering, whle it was there job to prevent it in first place =\ 
Jun 14 18:03:11 <ZogG> s/tire/tired/
Jun 14 18:03:12 <infobot> ZogG meant: Estel_ i just got tired to answer politely and and i got warnings from moderators on answering, whle it was there job to prevent it in first place =\ 
Jun 14 18:03:31 <Estel_> well, write complain about it. Currently, moderating TMO is, unfortunately, not managed by Council at all
Jun 14 18:03:40 <Estel_> we're discussing about improving it, though
Jun 14 18:04:19 <ZogG> and i would understand that situation can stay the same, but than it woud be my desicion to be in just reading mode as others =\
Jun 14 18:07:27 <ZogG> Estel_ i wrote to moderator and next thing i know i got banned for pointing out not to trash development thread so i feel it is useless and not in my authority, so i told it to you, and i less care about what will be my status but more care to keep developers and people who contrubute on site, as even i try to help where i can i'm not dev or expert, buit without devs ad experts community forum would be 100% whining and bumps/damands and 
Jun 14 18:07:28 <ZogG> etc
Jun 14 18:07:47 <ZogG> ok i'm gona watch other movie so i'll be off
Jun 14 18:08:55 <Estel_> OK...
Jun 14 18:09:11 <Estel_> well, we will try to talk about it
Jun 14 18:18:45 <DocScrutinizer05> chem|st: err, wut? claw? which claw?
Jun 14 18:19:35 <DocScrutinizer05> aah I see, also that povbot is back :-D
Jun 14 18:19:45 <DocScrutinizer05> povbot: botsnack
Jun 14 18:19:46 <povbot> DocScrutinizer05: Error: "botsnack" is not a valid command.
Jun 14 18:20:20 <DocScrutinizer05> chem|st: thanks
Jun 14 18:33:57 <GeneralAntilles> How do I prevent irssi from doing a /who when joining a channel or reconnecting?
Jun 14 18:34:58 <DocScrutinizer05> hm?
Jun 14 18:35:34 <vi__> actully I have an mx620 which is 120 better than the mx500.
Jun 14 18:36:18 <DocScrutinizer05> GeneralAntilles: nfc bout irssi, but Konversation has limits for # of users in a chan you accept in chans that a /who is done on
Jun 14 18:36:41 <DocScrutinizer05> MEH, time for a beer
Jun 14 18:36:53 <DocScrutinizer05> my englisj sounds like french
Jun 14 18:38:12 <DocScrutinizer05> GeneralAntilles: something along the line: "get userlist with realnames every NN seconds" and "don't get user real names on channels > NNN users"
Jun 14 18:39:04 <DocScrutinizer05> which btw been exactly what cut thru my N900 bat when bot N900-xchat and laptop konversation shared same ZNC
Jun 14 18:39:15 <DocScrutinizer05> both*
Jun 14 18:40:39 <DocScrutinizer05> doing such userlist update every 90s, for 10+ chan, will create an almost constant stream of msgs from irc server to ZNC to both(!) clients
Jun 14 18:42:08 <GeneralAntilles> I hate irssi
Jun 14 18:42:11 <GeneralAntilles> Hate it
Jun 14 18:42:59 <vi__> why
Jun 14 18:43:04 <vi__> irssi rulez
Jun 14 18:43:10 <GeneralAntilles> Because it's needlessly obfuscated
Jun 14 18:43:26 <vi__> are you new to limux?
Jun 14 18:43:51 <GeneralAntilles> vi__, no, I'm not a moron.
Jun 14 18:43:54 <GeneralAntilles> Trying to set up ZNC
Jun 14 18:44:01 <GeneralAntilles> irssi is doing everything but being cooperative.
Jun 14 18:44:05 <merlin1991> just use quassel ;)
Jun 14 18:44:11 <vi__> ~znc
Jun 14 18:44:44 <vi__> wtf is znc?
Jun 14 18:45:15 <merlin1991> it's a bouncer
Jun 14 18:46:04 <vi__> well I like irssi.  It is the best console based client.
Jun 14 18:46:05 <GeneralAntilles> I like how the Harmattan terminal doesn't let you switch windows in irssi sometimes, too.
Jun 14 18:46:27 <vi__> o0
Jun 14 18:46:37 <vi__> there is no ctrl key?
Jun 14 18:49:13 <vi__> why does fremantle have no xterm fonts?
Jun 14 19:07:20 <chem|st> DocScrutinizer05: any time
Jun 14 19:11:19 <chem|st> GeneralAntilles: hmm there is something for irssi... afair...
Jun 14 19:12:07 <DocScrutinizer05> honestly, nobody has ported a decent irc client to HARM yet? wtf?!
Jun 14 19:12:39 <GeneralAntilles> DocScrutinizer05, well, IRC Chatter has lots of potential
Jun 14 19:12:47 <GeneralAntilles> But development is stalled and it's got a lot of show-stoppers.
Jun 14 19:12:51 <GeneralAntilles> hiemanshu!
Jun 14 19:13:02 <DocScrutinizer05> ??
Jun 14 19:28:22 <Woody14619> ~seen qgil
Jun 14 19:28:26 <infobot> qgil <c0646a28@gateway/web/freenode/ip.192.100.106.40> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 260d 20h 41m 52s ago, saying: 'ok, time to leave and join the Qt chapter - Siicon Valley. See you around!'.
Jun 14 19:50:57 <DocScrutinizer05> hmm, 2 N900 on their way
Jun 14 20:06:06 <ioan> ok, I have a phone in my cart on amazon and I have to decide if to buy it or not. I own a n900, and I want to upgrade. I still like my n900 but at this point I mostly use the phone and web browsing on it... and not much hacking. To call/text/surf other phones are better. I need help to decide between Android OS based phone and Nokia N9. Should I get the N9? Oppinions?
Jun 14 21:09:20 <Sicelo> in case you still need it, 20:33 < GeneralAntilles> How do I prevent irssi from doing a /who when joining a channel or reconnecting?
Jun 14 21:10:03 <Sicelo>  /set show_names_on_join off
Jun 14 21:10:38 * Sicelo thinks irssi rocks ;)
Jun 14 21:41:47 <GeneralAntilles> Sicelo, thanks!
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