**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 17 02:59:59 2012 Sep 17 03:36:39 DocScrutinizer05: fwiw I haven't found any missing bits of files yet - after that fsck jazz ;) Sep 17 03:37:20 but I have the original backup safely tucked away just in case,,,, :) Sep 17 07:51:55 DocScrutinizer, merlin1991: thanks Sep 17 08:39:46 hmm, what's "osso"? Sep 17 08:39:55 i never thought of asking Sep 17 08:43:50 kerio, Open Source Software Operations Sep 17 08:48:54 kerio: it used to be a department inside nokia, comes from times before maemo Sep 17 08:49:00 i see Sep 17 09:43:05 So my conversations DB is corrupt. Can I go in and fix it? I want to have access to my year+ of conversations - but that slows my phone and gets messed up the more I use it (people's names become "* (#)" - which I'm guessing is some code that got spewed into content! Sep 17 09:43:08 Ideas? Sep 17 09:45:53 internetishard: copy the .db files to your computer, delete them in the phone, and try to recover them in your computer Sep 17 09:46:19 and make backups before modifying them Sep 17 09:46:36 How will I know how to repair the DB? Sep 17 09:46:46 good question Sep 17 09:47:02 Also - what's the solution as this thing expands to be able to check the history of my conversations without slowing the phone to a crawl? I've 3+ years of so many conversations in history... Sep 17 09:47:33 internetishard: once you remove them from the phone, itshould go faster in the phone :| Sep 17 09:50:28 yeah, but how should I look up old conversations if I need to. It's also incredibly hard to scroll to a midpoint in any conversation that is of a reasonable length Sep 17 09:50:32 This software is just insanely bad. Sep 17 09:50:49 I've been reading, but I've not learned about coping mechanisms of other users. Sep 17 10:23:04 internetishard: I guess the safest bet is to remove messages older than a certain age and keep a backup somewhere else just in case Sep 17 10:23:24 There's no way to do that, right? Sep 17 10:23:26 that would save the speed issues and should preserve enough backlog in the average case Sep 17 10:23:38 the conversations are inside a sqlite db Sep 17 10:23:45 So you do it manually? Sep 17 10:23:48 yep Sep 17 10:23:50 I'd have to write a script Sep 17 10:23:52 Jesus Sep 17 10:23:56 This is why people use iphones Sep 17 10:24:11 Then what would I use to view my old DB? Sep 17 10:24:26 there is some gui for sqlite Sep 17 10:24:48 http://sqlitebrowser.sourceforge.net/ Sep 17 10:25:44 Do you use the n900 as your #1? Sep 17 10:26:24 I've been doing that for a long time, but nowadays I use a n9 Sep 17 10:26:58 though it still depends on your defeiniton of #1, the n9 is only my #1 phone, I still use and carry my n900 for other stuff Sep 17 10:27:20 what are those other things? Sep 17 10:27:33 Why the n9? Are you comfortable with the touch keyboard? Sep 17 10:27:34 internetishard: also note that upgrading sqlite will make that faster Sep 17 10:27:48 kerio: tell me more Sep 17 10:27:55 StyXman: there is a thread on tmo Sep 17 10:27:59 some dude backported meego's sqlite Sep 17 10:28:01 upgrading sqlite on the n900 will make loading conversations faster? Sep 17 10:28:10 * merlin1991 relized he should contact the dev regarding inclusion to cssu Sep 17 10:28:25 internetishard: yeah, the libsqlite3-0 on the n900 is kinda old Sep 17 10:28:26 internetishard: yep there've been quite some improvements to sqlite since the version that ships with the n900 Sep 17 10:28:53 about the other uses, ie fm-transmitter, wireless fun, anything that requires a hw keyboard... Sep 17 10:29:04 >wireless "fun" Sep 17 10:29:05 lol Sep 17 10:29:18 also the touch keyboard works for sms, but I wouldn't use it to type longer texts Sep 17 10:29:51 merlin1991: so you're talking terminal work & airplay? Sep 17 10:30:18 wtf is airplay? Sep 17 10:30:27 kerio: ie when I want to use my openvpn tunnel on win7 which fscks dns resolution, so I "pipe" the traffic through the n900 over usb so the dns resolver in win7 is not confused Sep 17 10:31:18 hehe Sep 17 10:31:48 kerio: I suppose he meant aireplay which is part of the aircrack suite Sep 17 10:32:47 internetishard: one more thing I still do on the n900, listen to music 16gb on the phone are just not enough :P Sep 17 10:34:08 n9 is only 16GB? Sep 17 10:34:21 there is a 16gb model and a 64gb model Sep 17 10:34:31 I still haven't set it up, but I'm gonna have all my music on my server and I'm gonna mount it over NFS or something or stream all my music Sep 17 10:35:02 so the 64GB model can still have a 32GB microsd card, bringing it to 96GB? Sep 17 10:35:22 the n9 has no cardslot Sep 17 10:35:35 also on the 16gb model only 8.8gb are avaiable for user data Sep 17 10:37:09 why did you get an n9? Sep 17 10:37:18 is there any benefit over android? Sep 17 10:38:28 mainly because I didn't pay for it, but I was interested because it's still the purest linux experience for a current smartphone one can get Sep 17 10:39:27 I'm unclear on why it is more pure. Sep 17 10:40:15 because android is as unix as iOS Sep 17 10:41:13 :( @ linux on smartphones Sep 17 10:42:29 hi there.... my device is bootlooping + backupmenu boots and its not responding Sep 17 10:42:39 should i reflash it with vanilla ? Sep 17 10:44:06 merlin1991: why wouldn't sqlite be an auto update on the n900 for the community package? Sep 17 10:44:12 It won't break anyt hing if I do it manually? Sep 17 10:44:31 it should not break anything at all Sep 17 10:44:46 but it if it is feasible it makes sense to ship to all cssu users Sep 17 10:45:24 yeah, I feel like cssu could do a lot more Sep 17 10:45:30 I've not noticed much of a difference Sep 17 10:46:00 hello Sep 17 10:47:52 to watch 720p videos are the instruction still valid as per http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=77695&highlight=720p&page=108 Sep 17 10:48:43 i run power51 and cssu-thumb Sep 17 10:54:11 Hey all, looking time no see. I was wondering what makes the New testing update require PC suite mode to install. Its not mentioned in the change log Sep 17 11:00:36 install the operator name update first Sep 17 11:01:19 that fsckd msg is simply wrong, it's the default when ham can't decide on conflicts / dependencies and gives up Sep 17 11:02:30 So are there lots of other things to update manually besides the sqlite software? Lots of other goodies CSSU doesn't include? Sep 17 11:03:27 internetishard: well, there's cssu-thumb Sep 17 11:03:53 you need a kernel with the thumb2 errata workaround Sep 17 11:04:07 k, pulled the thread, gotta read about Sep 17 11:05:04 less ram used + shit recompiled with gcc 4.6 or 4.7 Sep 17 11:05:47 M Merlin thanks, next time if and to update I will ensure the widget happens first :-) Sep 17 11:06:05 Kamping_Kaiser: nah, it's not going to be needed Sep 17 11:08:35 * Kamping_Kaiser this a power source and has another go Sep 17 11:12:49 jpinx: (no missing bits) good to hear. The *.REC files may easily be "recovered" deleted files as well Sep 17 11:18:16 Update installing. :-) Sep 17 11:18:53 hi there.... my device is bootlooping + backupmenu boots and its not responding Sep 17 11:20:37 ( I've not noticed much of a difference) that's the basic concept of cssu. It's not even 'allowed' to massivedly change UX, it's meant to keep UX for the good bits and only "fix" broken or obviously missing&&system stuff Sep 17 11:21:12 internetishard: for other improvements there's extras(-devel) repo that holds all the good stuff Sep 17 11:22:20 internetishard: cssu is not a set of preselected apps claiming to be better than the set shipped with stock maemo. Au contraire one of the ideas of cssu is to give user more freedom of choice Sep 17 11:23:46 that's why we force a different operator name widget and a different camera-ui on you! Sep 17 11:23:48 * kerio flees Sep 17 11:24:07 dhbiker: flash COMBINED, install BM, restore your backup Sep 17 11:24:24 dhbiker: robbiethe1st made a fiasco image with BM preinstalled Sep 17 11:24:32 indeed Sep 17 11:24:58 * DocScrutinizer05 slaps kerio for forcing nicocam and opername on him Sep 17 11:25:44 i get this http://pastebin.com/tjNdvcxt Sep 17 11:25:54 nah, that's simply not true for cssu-stable. That's why it's called stable (among other things) Sep 17 11:26:36 dhbiker: yep Sep 17 11:26:51 dhbiker: blacklist phonet! Sep 17 11:27:05 dhbiker: remove the battery, connect the usb cable, hold "u" down, put the battery in Sep 17 11:27:05 or something Sep 17 11:27:13 nah same happens Sep 17 11:27:19 everytime Sep 17 11:27:25 dhbiker: blacklist phonet! Sep 17 11:27:33 sir yes sir! Sep 17 11:27:36 ~flashing Sep 17 11:27:37 rumour has it, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware Sep 17 11:28:16 dhbiker: lsmod|grep phon Sep 17 11:28:24 you're doing it wrong Sep 17 11:28:35 if something shows up there, you got phonet kernel module problem Sep 17 11:28:43 great Sep 17 11:29:14 i'll try on my netbook Sep 17 11:30:28 dhbiker: most contemporary linux distros have cdc_phonet kernel module, you'll most likely need to blacklist it on your netbook as well Sep 17 11:30:42 probably Sep 17 11:30:47 but i have a different kernel Sep 17 11:30:50 on netbook Sep 17 11:30:50 kerio: who forces that on you?.... would be me and I don't! Sep 17 11:31:14 chem|st: don't feed the troll ;-) Sep 17 11:31:28 but i'm hungry! Sep 17 11:31:35 but I have spare cookies! Sep 17 11:31:40 hehe Sep 17 11:33:38 dhbiker: just out of interest, what did you do to fsckup your system? Sep 17 11:34:01 dhbiker: installed custom kernel? nitdroid? Sep 17 11:34:51 too drained battery while restoring backup Sep 17 11:34:55 ouch Sep 17 11:34:56 yeah, that's bad Sep 17 11:35:01 why didn't you plug the wallcharger in? Sep 17 11:35:07 indeed Sep 17 11:35:08 backupmenu can charge Sep 17 11:35:09 didn't have time :( Sep 17 11:35:21 hm, BM could add a battery meter Sep 17 11:35:31 meh Sep 17 11:35:51 but... yeah, it could. Technically Sep 17 11:37:56 I'd consider it more helpful to add a charge level test with warning Sep 17 11:40:24 "battery low!!! Odds are any backup or restore operation gets aborted by system shutdown due to battery empty. For restore this will thoroughly mess up your system, for backup this will result in broken useless backup file and possible fs corruption. IT'S STRONGLY RECOMMENDED YOU PLUG IN WALLCHARGER *NOW*!" Sep 17 11:41:44 this reminds me, i should make another backup Sep 17 11:41:48 agree Sep 17 11:46:30 hm, is there a reason /etc/mtab is not a symlink to /proc/mounts? Sep 17 11:47:55 I also might imagine some special handling for /lib/modules which should makes ure it gets restored only to a version matching current kernel Sep 17 11:48:38 ...unless there's this magic file causing kernel-flasher to run on next boot Sep 17 11:48:41 DocScrutinizer05: or, much, much easier: dump/flash the kernel too Sep 17 11:48:48 ^^^^ Sep 17 11:48:54 DocScrutinizer05: there's no copy of the kernel in the fs itself Sep 17 11:49:05 what you suggested is next step aka v2.0 Sep 17 11:49:10 i wonder, can the kernel be dumped/flashed with nanddump/nandwrite? Sep 17 11:49:14 or do you need the onboard flasher? Sep 17 11:49:41 I *guess* it can get backed-up and restored by nandtools Sep 17 11:50:08 I suggested that to robbiethe1st several times now Sep 17 11:50:24 appears that memory freed with cssu-thumb makes browser run noticeably faster Sep 17 11:50:25 also do a backup of CAL ;-) Sep 17 11:50:40 Arkenoi: indeed Sep 17 11:50:43 ~cssu-thumb Sep 17 11:50:44 somebody said cssu-thumb was [thumb2 microb] indeed seems to render like mad, subjectively Sep 17 11:50:49 nah, thumb microB is considerably faster Sep 17 11:51:01 or might be that Sep 17 11:51:06 hrmpf, mass storage mode from backupmenu is *kinda* flaky Sep 17 11:51:11 Arkenoi: it's both Sep 17 11:51:25 more free ram, better compiler, stronger optimization Sep 17 11:51:26 looks almost like n950 speed now :-) Sep 17 11:51:37 with moderate overclock (950MHz) Sep 17 11:52:11 overclock basically useless compared to thumb speedup Sep 17 11:52:43 interesting Sep 17 11:52:46 btw I wouldn't consider 950MHz a "moderate OC" Sep 17 11:53:09 i though that thumb is around the same speed Sep 17 11:53:11 yeah, 950 is a 58% increase Sep 17 11:53:22 jacekowski: it's actually a little bit slower Sep 17 11:53:28 and basically close to the edge already Sep 17 11:53:28 but it frees ram Sep 17 11:53:39 and freemangordon uses gcc 4.6 or gcc 4.7 Sep 17 11:53:44 by how much? Sep 17 11:53:46 10-20%? Sep 17 11:53:46 as opposed to the crappy scratchbox 4.2 Sep 17 11:53:57 which seems much better compared to old compiler Sep 17 11:54:03 Story I disappeared, andchat speed respondent :-( Sep 17 11:54:07 i would think it's more gcc than thumb Sep 17 11:54:20 jacekowski: probably, but the freed ram does help a lot Sep 17 11:54:31 code that old gcc was generating was pretty bad Sep 17 11:54:32 Thanks for your help, update installed perfectly Sep 17 11:54:48 hmm? Sep 17 11:55:00 ECHAN? Sep 17 11:55:40 Me? Correct channel, just 20 Minn late Sep 17 11:55:54 ooh, sorry, missed your posts of 90 min ago Sep 17 11:56:06 or 30? Sep 17 11:57:04 Some time ago. Either way, just wanted to make sure I said thanks before I head off Sep 17 11:57:13 * DocScrutinizer05 gets tired to spam channel with [general notice] Sep 17 11:57:28 Kamping_Kaiser: :-D Sep 17 11:57:47 :-) Sep 17 11:57:50 anyway, operator-name-cbs-widget can (and should?) be uninstalled, after the upgrade to cssu-T5.1 Sep 17 11:58:07 meh, WFM Sep 17 11:58:20 DocScrutinizer05: it's a dummy Sep 17 11:58:30 but yes, the update is meant to allow de-installation now Sep 17 11:58:40 the actual stuff is in connui-home-cellular Sep 17 11:59:27 that's why we got dependency issue on update Sep 17 12:00:24 hm, how do you manually focus with nicocam? Sep 17 12:05:52 deepy: http://i.imgur.com/1F2xq.jpg <- this is a picture of my usb cable Sep 17 12:05:54 it's the standard nokia one Sep 17 12:06:02 (it's slightly from the underside) Sep 17 12:07:07 ah, those teeth Sep 17 12:07:21 yep Sep 17 12:07:29 done the same to both microusb plugs Sep 17 12:07:35 (usb cable and wallcharger) Sep 17 12:08:16 Can I rip them out instead? Sep 17 12:08:25 i ripped the teeth out of mine Sep 17 12:08:59 i'm disgusted by your lack of finesse Sep 17 12:09:05 but i suppose that it'll work \_o_/ Sep 17 12:09:23 i blame my arctic forest troll heritage Sep 17 12:09:24 I think so yeah. /o_/ Sep 17 12:10:29 it's deprecated Sep 17 12:10:41 what's deprecated? Sep 17 12:10:52 mechanically mess with plug Sep 17 12:11:35 better than nothing i suppose, im awful at soldering :) Sep 17 12:11:47 I pushed the "teeth" slightly with fingernail, and did a few hundered careful mate/unmate-cycles, and my plugs all work just fine Sep 17 12:13:04 (actually I pulled the plug 2mm and right pushed it back, no complete extraction. Can easily be done with fingernails (so you have any) during watching a movie) Sep 17 12:13:48 also soft pencil helps to apply some graphite to the outside of plug, will help a friggin lot Sep 17 12:14:25 mechanical messing around with plugs is prone to do permanent damage to the port Sep 17 12:14:46 DocScrutinizer05: is filing down a part "mechanical"? Sep 17 12:14:53 yes Sep 17 12:14:59 as worse as it gets Sep 17 12:15:02 D: Sep 17 12:15:13 metal dust will ruin your port Sep 17 12:15:32 hm Sep 17 12:15:34 as will those rough surfaces you create Sep 17 12:15:35 oh well, it works \_o_/ Sep 17 12:16:17 won't graphite do that too? Sep 17 12:16:23 no Sep 17 12:17:37 graphite is a librificant, metal dust is an abrasive thing Sep 17 12:17:41 i see Sep 17 12:17:43 lub* Sep 17 12:17:59 well this would've been more useful to know... two months ago... Sep 17 12:18:22 pencil graphite stays in place, metal dust from filing enters the plug and ruins your contacts Sep 17 12:19:04 mind you, these are like 50um of gold on steel springs Sep 17 12:19:21 gold is softer than steel dust Sep 17 12:19:41 well, i blew on both the port and the plug Sep 17 12:19:56 the least you could do to limit damage Sep 17 12:20:32 nevertheless it's deprecated to file on plugs, better bend the hooks gently in a few times, with your fingernails Sep 17 12:20:43 *slightly* Sep 17 12:21:03 this will soften the springs in those hooks Sep 17 12:21:24 resulting in way smoother retraction of plug Sep 17 12:21:58 a few 50..100 mating cycles do the rest (rounding the hooks' sharp "nose") Sep 17 12:23:14 YMMV, but I found it works just fine for me Sep 17 12:27:31 DocScrutinizer05: no luck... tried with windows too and it throws some weird error Sep 17 12:27:43 sometihng with APE blah blah blah Sep 17 12:28:05 dhbiker: sorry, no idea about windows Sep 17 12:28:12 shiet Sep 17 12:28:18 I can only talk you through flashing under linux Sep 17 12:28:43 ok Sep 17 12:28:46 i am root Sep 17 12:28:49 and everything Sep 17 12:28:53 just like the guide says Sep 17 12:29:04 and i still get that no suitable device found Sep 17 12:29:07 do lsmod|grep phonet Sep 17 12:29:20 nothing Sep 17 12:29:40 what are you trying to flash? Sep 17 12:29:54 emmc Sep 17 12:30:02 Version of 'sw-release': RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_MR0 Sep 17 12:30:02 Booting device into flash mode. Sep 17 12:30:02 Suitable USB device not found, waiting. Sep 17 12:30:13 flash combined first, flashing emmc depends on a working rootfs Sep 17 12:30:38 oh. Sep 17 12:30:41 see ~flashing Sep 17 12:30:48 it's all written there Sep 17 12:31:33 "combined, vanilla, then combined again..." Sep 17 12:39:04 it lives \o/ Sep 17 12:39:08 \o/ Sep 17 12:39:15 ty DocScrutinizer05 & kerio <3 Sep 17 12:39:17 dhbiker: >>. The sequence "eMMC first, then rootfs" is checked back with Nokia affiliates and is proven to work as long as your rootfs still is somewhat functional. Note however that eMMC flashing will fail when your rootfs is completely messed up, the recommended flash sequence then is rootfs, eMMC, rootfs *again*.<< http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#Flashing_the_eMMC_in_the_N900 Sep 17 12:42:58 hmm, is there a jtag interface somewhere on the n900? Sep 17 12:48:25 * chem|st laughs at people using whatsapp! Sep 17 12:48:35 kerio: yep, under battery Sep 17 12:48:48 presumably Sep 17 12:49:14 kerio: alas those details are omitted from schematics Sep 17 12:49:19 typical :s Sep 17 12:49:37 hm, how do you actually connect to those pads under the battery? Sep 17 12:49:44 do you have to solder something to them? Sep 17 12:49:47 service fixture Sep 17 12:49:51 is it something that clips? Sep 17 12:50:06 yep, a huge "battery" with pogopins and cable Sep 17 12:50:16 i see Sep 17 12:51:48 or this http://www.fonefunshop.co.uk/Unlocking/servicecableuniversal1.htm Sep 17 12:52:54 hahaha, that's cool Sep 17 12:54:06 the one i meant looks similar to http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nokia-X2-01-Unlocking-Flashing-Cable-GPG-Best-Dongle-Fenix-Key-MxBox-MxKey-/130757486675?_trksid=p4340.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC.NPJS%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUA%26otn%3D5%26pmod%3D390253018066%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D2108992536272159332#ht_2210wt_1163 Sep 17 12:56:29 more like http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nokia-E5-00-Flashing-Unlocking-Cable-GPG-for-MxKey-Best-Dongle-Fenix-Cyclone-/140838802718?pt=UK_MobilePhones_MobilePhoneAccesories_MobilePhoneDataCables_JN&hash=item20caa5951e Sep 17 12:56:47 yeah, yeah Sep 17 12:57:18 hehe, that kind of stuff would fit in the mugen xl backcover :D Sep 17 13:07:12 ciao Sep 17 13:11:14 DocScrutinizer05: in what repo is the backupmenu ? Sep 17 13:11:48 extras-devel Sep 17 13:12:51 ty Sep 17 13:17:30 yw Sep 17 13:17:47 dhbiker: http://maemo.org/packages/ Sep 17 13:18:27 name includes: "backup" Sep 17 13:18:53 -->http://maemo.org/packages/view/backupmenu/ Sep 17 13:21:43 DocScrutinizer05: oh it's not in extras-testing at least? Sep 17 13:22:06 extras-devel doesn't sound very seriously. I can't believe you suggest it :) Sep 17 13:22:42 isn't the promotion mechanism kinda broken? Sep 17 13:23:26 now i'll wait for battery be fully charged Sep 17 13:23:33 i wont do the same mistake again :/ Sep 17 13:23:48 kerio: developer itself put it into testing. It worked at least few month ago (curl). Sep 17 13:39:21 luf: alas there's a lot of useful (and stable) packages lingering in -devel. That's mainly due to lack of testers who would promote a pkg from extras-testing to extras Sep 17 13:39:42 so devels see no use in promoting their packages to -testing, I guess Sep 17 13:40:22 * DocScrutinizer05 takes mental note to prod robbiethe1st to promote BM to -testing Sep 17 13:55:44 hehe, cool, you can see the bluetooth transfer speed drop as you transfer data via wifi Sep 17 14:01:14 doesn't mean much though Sep 17 14:02:16 more interesting would be to watch BT bandwidth while transfering data between two other devices close to the BT devices Sep 17 14:03:41 * DocScrutinizer05 suspects 50% of the BT headset audio dropouts caused by interference from other 2.4GHz sources, like WLAN-hotspots, microwave ovens, and whatnot else Sep 17 14:06:47 btw is there a way to force contacts into portrait? Sep 17 14:08:36 nope Sep 17 14:09:13 sure there is Sep 17 14:09:20 enable forcerotation and remove it from the blacklist Sep 17 14:09:25 it'll probably work like ass, though Sep 17 14:11:32 most of the originl code for the dialer app was never intended to run in portrait from the beginning. Sep 17 14:32:46 worst case it'll segfault Sep 17 14:33:21 most likely it won't be usable at all, due to size and positioning of widgets Sep 17 15:08:39 DocScrutinizer05: hey guy I told about -devel not -testing. Putting package into -testing depends only on the developer. And when developer means it's not stable enough for testing ... how can we recomand it? Sep 17 15:09:46 DocScrutinizer05: but it's like the question if there was egg or hen at first ... Sep 17 15:10:22 DocScrutinizer05: Devels should do they job. And it's only 1 click I think to put the package into -testing. Sep 17 15:44:20 I just noticed it's FM TRANSMITTER and not receiver Sep 17 15:44:58 and then I noticed TV-out Sep 17 16:08:31 deepy: there's also a fm receiver Sep 17 16:08:37 but no builtin way to use it Sep 17 16:13:14 he Sep 17 16:13:16 h Sep 17 16:31:00 N900? but proper non-HARM-hackish proper community made packages for FMRX, even several Sep 17 16:33:03 DocScrutinizer05: that's why i said "builtin" Sep 17 16:35:12 DAFAQ Sep 17 16:33:56 halebop kernel: [3943500.563996] Critical temperature reached (100 C), shutting down. Sep 17 16:36:28 * DocScrutinizer05 runs to buy a can of pressurized air Sep 17 16:37:40 i don't think it's going to be cold enough Sep 17 16:40:46 nah, i hoped that docking station will lift the T500 above table just enough to stop it scooping in all debris and tobacco and ashes and whatnot - obviously a delusion. So going to blow it out again Sep 17 16:50:43 temps all <63° now, wtf? Sep 17 16:51:27 I guess fan control in T500 under linux is borked Sep 17 16:51:44 (not exactly unheard) Sep 17 16:52:55 or over temp monitoring Sep 17 16:55:03 Where are the files I put on the mass storage? Sep 17 16:56:42 oh, /media/mmc1 Sep 17 16:56:45 I need a tab complete :E Sep 17 16:56:48 or ~/MyDocs Sep 17 16:56:54 deepy: map tab to shift+fn+something Sep 17 16:57:03 either bksp or ret Sep 17 16:58:21 and it's not in that folder either Sep 17 16:58:32 it really is in ~MyDocs which was empty every single time I checked Sep 17 16:59:49 mplayer crashed Sep 17 17:01:56 kmplayer worked much better Sep 17 17:04:46 deepy: those don't use the DSP though Sep 17 17:04:56 kerio, how to map keys in maemo? Sep 17 17:05:32 nm, it is actually easy to find Sep 17 17:05:37 drhjk: edit /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/nokia_vndr/rx-51 as appropriate :) Sep 17 17:05:49 read the xkb docs to learn how to Sep 17 17:06:55 kerio: dsp? Sep 17 17:07:02 Also, I'm open for alternatives Sep 17 17:07:18 deepy: hardware thingy that does video decoding Sep 17 17:07:21 Ah Sep 17 17:07:30 it's used by the default media player application and by openmediaplayer Sep 17 17:07:38 but it only works with some formats Sep 17 17:07:48 you can also install additional gstreamer codecs for other formats Sep 17 17:08:27 apt-get install decoders-support ogg-support Sep 17 17:16:53 SpeedEvil: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Fan_control_scripts Sep 17 17:20:52 SpeedEvil: http://superuser.com/questions/304421/thinkpad-shuts-down-after-10-minutes-of-heavy-use Sep 17 17:24:03 SpeedEvil: I think I might need a bios update Sep 17 17:59:14 yo Sep 17 17:59:38 at the risk of appearing like a total spastic retard, how do I update to the latest cssu-thumb? Sep 17 18:00:58 freemangordon: ping Sep 17 18:03:49 how hard is it to modify hildon home? Sep 17 18:04:38 when you type letters in it automatically opens the address book. Sep 17 18:04:42 and searches. Sep 17 18:04:50 your contacts. Sep 17 18:05:04 How hard would it be to also include program names in that search? Sep 17 18:05:16 Almost an instant search as it were. Sep 17 18:05:20 ? Sep 17 18:32:44 is the default browser goodor should I change? Sep 17 18:45:46 whats happens with python and the builder ? Sep 17 18:46:01 https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/extras-cauldron-builds/2012-September/thread.html <- [extras-builds] [fremantle]: python2.7 2.7.3~rc2-2.1-maemo1 UNKNOWN x 100000000000 Sep 17 18:52:54 deepy: it can't be easily changed, and unless you install cssu-thumb fennec (firefox mobile) will seriously suck Sep 17 18:53:07 deepy: there's an experimental version of opera mobile that works well Sep 17 18:53:28 cssu-thumb? Sep 17 18:53:37 Weren't you grieving over that a while ago? Sep 17 18:53:46 i what? Sep 17 18:54:01 the performance of it? Sep 17 18:54:15 what's "it" here? Sep 17 18:54:16 fennec? Sep 17 18:54:22 cssu-thumb Sep 17 18:54:27 no, cssu-thumb is the shit Sep 17 18:54:39 Why am I not using it? Sep 17 18:54:44 idk Sep 17 18:54:53 ~cssu-thumb Sep 17 18:54:53 hmm... cssu-thumb is [thumb2 microb] indeed seems to render like mad, subjectively Sep 17 18:55:21 deepy: well, it's kinda bleedy Sep 17 18:55:25 What about samba? Sep 17 18:55:29 I figure I could use with a samba client Sep 17 18:55:51 you could use *what* with a samba client? Sep 17 18:55:56 you accidentally a noun there Sep 17 18:56:19 I accidently a verb ther Sep 17 18:56:27 anyway, apt-get install samba or something like that Sep 17 18:56:52 cssu first! Sep 17 18:56:56 if you just want a client, smbfs and smbclient seem appropriate Sep 17 18:56:58 I found the tab Sep 17 18:57:26 freemangordon: make an actual factoid with links to the instructions to install cssu-thumb Sep 17 18:57:26 does bleedy bleedy and stable both have twisted? Sep 17 18:57:58 deepy: it appears that python-twisted-* is only in extras-devel Sep 17 18:58:07 which is, realistically, what you should use Sep 17 18:59:10 DocScrutinizers gonna scrutinize Sep 17 18:59:59