**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 05 02:59:58 2012 Oct 05 03:45:34 Hi guys Oct 05 03:45:36 talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1276640&postcount=854 Oct 05 03:47:04 Should I update to mp-fremantle-community-pr=21.2011.38-1Tmaemo5.1+thumb3 ? Oct 05 04:38:35 thanks freemangordon Oct 05 04:38:46 sLumPia: ? Oct 05 05:39:27 DocScrutinizer05: software patents don't exist in europe, and i'm pretty sure every byte in my script was added from my kbd ;) Oct 05 05:39:43 but yeah, it's basically a rewrite of your script Oct 05 05:40:20 i suppose i should've said that Oct 05 05:50:27 i get my replacement rpi tomorrow Oct 05 05:50:30 nice Oct 05 05:56:54 hm.. keycaps are getting worn so the backlight ahines thru Oct 05 05:57:04 shines Oct 05 07:04:52 DocScrutinizer05: please don't leave us :3 Oct 05 07:34:09 kerio: software patents maybe not, but copyright definitely does. Anyway, I don't think doc is actually pissed because someone copied it, but rather because other people are taking credit. Oct 05 07:34:48 nah, he's actually mostly pissed because of the council thing Oct 05 07:35:07 what council thing? Oct 05 07:35:38 teotwaki: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1276405#post1276405 onwards Oct 05 07:36:46 DocScrutinizer05: if you want, I recently setup a mirror for LMDE, I'm using up ~600GB on that disk, but still have some ~300GB available. I can mirror another thing on there, if you want. Oct 05 07:38:43 heh, a mirror of repository.maemo.org would be more useful >:D Oct 05 07:40:27 more useful than an LMDE mirror? Oct 05 07:40:35 Just give me the rsync, I'll set it up right now ;) Oct 05 07:41:17 kerio: ^ Oct 05 07:42:26 teotwaki: apt-mirror dat shit Oct 05 07:42:42 (but really, don't - rehosting the packages would be somewhat illegal) Oct 05 07:42:44 anyway, that box is 18euros a month, for 1TB of HD, dual or quad core (it depends whether you're lucky or not), 2GB of RAM, and a 100MBit unlimited bandwidth line. Oct 05 07:42:49 illegal? Oct 05 07:43:06 lots of (c) Nokia packages that you can't redistribute Oct 05 07:43:20 (talking about the repository.maemo.org mirror, not the LMDE mirror) Oct 05 07:43:39 well, I know, I've been working with the LMDE guys to provide it to them ;) Oct 05 07:44:04 I even helped them building a package that updates the available mirrors to LMDE users, and selects the fastest one. Oct 05 07:44:18 fastest one ping-wise? Oct 05 07:44:25 no, download Oct 05 07:44:32 neat Oct 05 07:44:50 with a simple command that allows you to change mirrors whenever you feel the one you're using is slow Oct 05 07:44:56 what's better? mate or cinnamon? Oct 05 07:45:02 there's only 3 mirrors... so Oct 05 07:45:06 (well, 4, with mine) Oct 05 07:45:51 This feature allows them to accept temporary bandwidth donations... For example, the mirrors get hammered when big updates are pushed (like the recent UP5). People can now donate bandwidth just for a month, instead of having to commit 365 days a year. Oct 05 07:46:19 i wonder how cloudflare would work for something like an apt repository Oct 05 07:46:30 kerio: I prefer MATE, but I was a Gnome 2 guy (I even attacked dneary on Twitter because of Gnome 3) Oct 05 07:46:44 kerio: cinnamon is gnome-shell light :) Mate is a gnome 2 fork but buggu Oct 05 07:46:54 It's fast, responsive, doesn't use any graphics bullshit, and is massively stable. Oct 05 07:46:55 Hello btw. ;) Oct 05 07:46:57 spoofy: buggy? Oct 05 07:47:04 I've not had a single bug in months! Oct 05 07:47:33 The last bug I had was that the VPN passwords would not be stored, so I'd have to retype it again and again, that was fixed in the last push. Oct 05 07:47:38 (well, last push on Mint 12) Oct 05 07:48:18 kerio: I'd say, just download the LMDE MATE/Cinnamon DVD, and play around in both. Oct 05 07:48:34 i'd have to use a VM though Oct 05 07:48:38 I'm seeding all the linux mint DVDs on bittorrent anyway Oct 05 07:48:45 i don't exactly have an optical reader Oct 05 07:48:47 teotwaki: Ugh.. For example every time I used compiz I had to kill marco manualy Oct 05 07:48:57 or a way to boot a BIOS bootloader without a stupid compatibility layer Oct 05 07:49:11 why would you use compiz on mate? Oct 05 07:49:12 teotwaki: also menu in lmde edition was buggy Oct 05 07:49:25 spoofy: Which UP? Oct 05 07:49:39 teotwaki: couse I like gnome2+compiz? Oct 05 07:49:47 ok Oct 05 07:49:52 but then that's not a bug in MATE ;) Oct 05 07:49:55 That's a bug in compiz ;P Oct 05 07:50:39 ugh I don't know. Now I prefer arch with xfce/fluxbox.. Oct 05 07:50:42 I'm still completely amazed that a handful of volunteers were able to fork gnome 2 and gnome 3, at the same time, and make something decent out of both projets Oct 05 07:51:28 Heh, I used to be a hardcore fluxbox fan, back in my gentoo days... That was probably way back in 2001? Oct 05 07:51:37 Holy shit, that's a memory from over 10 years ago. Oct 05 07:51:47 teotwaki: yeap. They done amazing work. But face it - gnome 2 is dead and mate will not survive Oct 05 07:52:01 Well, gnome 2 is dead, sure Oct 05 07:52:06 But why would MATE not survive? Oct 05 07:52:19 Do you see a lot of features that still need implementing? Oct 05 07:52:46 teotwaki: ok, ok. But how many distros will have it? Oct 05 07:52:55 Once it's stable, it's just maintenance; and that can go on for years, for relatively little cost Oct 05 07:53:13 spoofy: Well, all of them have it, don't they? Oct 05 07:53:18 teotwaki: Red hat/centos as default? I don't think so. Oct 05 07:53:18 teotwaki: don't be amazed. Oct 05 07:53:31 spoofy: you never said default ;) Oct 05 07:53:42 teotwaki: some core Gnome people were simply incompetent. Oct 05 07:53:58 teotwaki: it's really not that much of a stretch to do better. Oct 05 07:53:59 teotwaki: then every distro have xmonad too.. Oct 05 07:54:14 spoofy: yeah, probably. Oct 05 07:54:31 teotwaki: Gnome2 is still being used in Debian Stable, btw. Oct 05 07:54:42 spoofy: does something have to be installed by default to be successful? In that case, allow me to say that GIT IS DEAD, IT WILL NEVER BE SUCCESSFUL! Oct 05 07:55:03 I also changed my defaults completely. Oct 05 07:55:05 fasta: yeah, but then again, Debian Stable is dead. Oct 05 07:55:21 teotwaki: no, it's very alive. Oct 05 07:55:31 not dead as in "it's not used or abandoned", but dead as in "the software in there is *very* old". Oct 05 07:55:34 teotwaki: the reason for that is that not a lot changes :) Oct 05 07:56:53 I wonder whether the Gnome developers use Gnome themselves. Oct 05 07:57:02 No. Oct 05 07:57:04 They use Unity. Oct 05 07:57:06 :D Oct 05 07:57:21 Unity is bad, because it's slow. Oct 05 07:57:32 Warning: If anyone dares say Unity is actually good, and they use it on a daily basis, you will be kicked, and have your geek card removed. Oct 05 07:57:36 teotwaki: nope but in these days everybody looking at fu***'n ubuntu and default environments Oct 05 07:57:42 If I press the Windows key to bring up the Dash, I have to wait. Oct 05 07:57:57 fasta: there's your problem. You have a windows key. Oct 05 07:58:07 haha Oct 05 07:58:16 it's a Super key Oct 05 07:58:31 I think anything over 0.03 seconds is too slow. Oct 05 07:58:46 fasta: gentoo guy? Oct 05 07:59:00 All it needs to do is switch two OpenGL buffers. Oct 05 07:59:03 spoofy: no, quality software guy. Oct 05 07:59:14 [CSI Miami spoof] You mean you believe it should be... [puts on sunglasses] fasta? [YYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH] Oct 05 07:59:48 teotwaki: :() Oct 05 08:00:21 I think the 'project manager' just managed the project incorrectly. Oct 05 08:00:32 It gave a list of requirements, but not a performance target. Oct 05 08:00:36 Or rather, not a good one. Oct 05 08:02:35 Why do Java programmers wear glasses? Because they don't C#. Oct 05 08:02:54 Quote by milosz on ##c++. Oct 05 08:04:28 Aaaanyway Oct 05 08:04:43 Gotta go fix some bugs and wrap up a release before leaving on holiday Oct 05 08:04:51 'lata Oct 05 09:29:07 does anyone know where the kernel power script is run from? Oct 05 09:29:27 even after purging it I get a message at bootup telling me my settings have not been loaded. Oct 05 09:29:35 How the F do get rid of it. Oct 05 09:29:48 There is not event.d files. Oct 05 09:30:00 Nothing in /etc/X11/Xsession Oct 05 09:30:19 Nothing in rco] Oct 05 09:30:21 Nothing in rco Oct 05 09:44:01 Pali: ^ Oct 05 10:07:50 Mission to reflash my phone :) Oct 05 10:08:00 * archeyDevil has booted 32-bit arch install on notebook. :) Oct 05 10:12:01 flasher 2.5 for n900? Oct 05 10:13:44 3.5 :/ Oct 05 10:13:47 Eh. Oct 05 10:14:44 It says flasher v2.5.2 but downloaded 3.5_2.5.2.2 Oct 05 10:19:09 DocScrutinizer51: DocScrutinizer05 (whichever you are O.o) What sound right ^_^ Sure doesn't from here.. Oct 05 10:21:16 Okay is right lol Oct 05 10:21:19 Strange tho Oct 05 10:37:20 RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -- This the only file I need other than the flasher? Oct 05 10:38:51 DocScrutinizer51: Heh. I know you said the hwrev for my phone was rare.. flasher --set-hw-revision=mine ;) Oct 05 10:39:04 Can can haz the same too!! Oct 05 10:42:40 Hmm Oct 05 10:42:57 flasher-3.5 --boot=ARG # Possible solution to getting around the multiboot? Oct 05 10:55:36 archeyDevil: flasher-3.5 shows flasher v2.5.2, yes Oct 05 10:55:49 and if you want to do a proper, full reflash you need COMBINED and VANILLA Oct 05 10:55:58 make sure those are from pr1.3 (the latest) Oct 05 10:56:05 (and grab the global versions, just cause) Oct 05 10:56:28 MD5 (combined-pr13.bin) = b9f8690318a3be61767826d15b8c1784 Oct 05 10:56:31 MD5 (vanilla-pr13.bin) = 488809ff96a0a05479d692e9f77aeb4f Oct 05 10:56:46 RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -- That is newest global compined Oct 05 10:57:18 * archeyDevil rage -.- 191M file downloading at a dialup connection speed!! Oct 05 10:57:24 * archeyDevil has adsl2+! -.- Oct 05 10:57:33 note that VANILLA will overwrite the content of your MyDocs Oct 05 10:57:46 Combined will not? O.o Oct 05 10:57:47 and pretty much give you a phone that's as close to factory conditions as possible Oct 05 10:58:15 combined is just most things on the nand + home (optfs) Oct 05 10:58:22 mydocs is left untouched Oct 05 10:58:36 the partitioning of the emmc is left untouched too Oct 05 10:58:38 Okay. :) Oct 05 10:58:55 well download is currentl7 78% Oct 05 10:59:04 (started a while ago) Oct 05 10:59:16 60-70KB/sex now. :) Oct 05 10:59:18 sec * Oct 05 11:00:48 Pali: is KP52 bugfree? Oct 05 11:01:09 kerio, should be Oct 05 11:01:23 Pali: i'll test it - link? Oct 05 11:01:30 (to the debs or the thread) Oct 05 11:01:34 but in git are some changes fro bq2415x/rx51_battery drivers Oct 05 11:01:41 hm Oct 05 11:01:49 are you going to put them in the proper KP52 release? Oct 05 11:01:56 when is that going to happen? Oct 05 11:02:23 kerio, http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1270141&postcount=168 Oct 05 11:02:59 I will put new debs of prekp52 Oct 05 11:03:16 k, i'll wait for those and report Oct 05 11:03:40 ping freemangordon Oct 05 11:03:51 Pali: pong Oct 05 11:03:56 Pali: btw, which toolchain are you using? Oct 05 11:04:27 * archeyDevil always pong to everyone's ping s:P Oct 05 11:05:08 archeyDevil: your routing is fucked up bro Oct 05 11:05:09 fix it Oct 05 11:05:20 kerio, arm-2007q3-51sb6-gdb71-arm-none-linux-gnueabi_linux_x86_64 gcc 4.2.1 which is part of madde Oct 05 11:05:23 kerio: nothing wrong with it. Just the slow nokia servers -.- Oct 05 11:05:32 archeyDevil: i meant the ping/pong thing Oct 05 11:05:33 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=2 ttl=46 time=172 ms Oct 05 11:05:38 kerio: oh lol Oct 05 11:05:52 ...wow, 170ms to google dns? Oct 05 11:06:04 My ping avg 48-480 :P Oct 05 11:06:21 its an anycast address anyway i think Oct 05 11:06:25 * archeyDevil can play teeworlds (game) with a ping of 2380 ;) Oct 05 11:06:41 jaska: yeah, but it should be much faster than that Oct 05 11:06:53 21ms Oct 05 11:06:56 google is fairly good at networking :) Oct 05 11:07:48 kerio: They are hacks Oct 05 11:07:49 :P Oct 05 11:08:12 Routing hacks = not cool. 8.8.8.8 Yes, they own it but they have fun with routing. :P Oct 05 11:08:44 it's not a routing hack, it's anycast Oct 05 11:09:14 I know Oct 05 11:09:28 I can call it a routing hack cause I don't intend on learning how it's working lol Oct 05 11:09:46 Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=170ms TTL=44 Oct 05 11:09:47 Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=44 Oct 05 11:10:02 24 is my lowest ping Oct 05 11:10:21 30, but I'm on a VPN in Germany Oct 05 11:10:22 8032 is my highest (w\ timeout's extended hehe) Oct 05 11:10:52 your request -> ISP -> upstream -> backbone -> "nearest" google DNS server, selected by your upstream provider Oct 05 11:10:58 it's basically magic Oct 05 11:11:25 kerio, it's up to the upstream providers to choose where to route your crap Oct 05 11:11:33 of course Oct 05 11:11:46 if they simply do not care, your packets may go around the world Oct 05 11:14:44 lol Oct 05 11:16:03 hello Oct 05 11:16:04 flasher doens't wanna work... :/ Oct 05 11:16:07 Hmm Oct 05 11:16:34 aaargh. Oct 05 11:16:47 maemo-pan package is completely fubar. Oct 05 11:16:53 http://sprunge.us/XUSS Oct 05 11:17:00 It depends on 'bluez-utils' Oct 05 11:17:17 bluez-utils is not called bluez-utils, it is simply called bluez! Oct 05 11:17:27 what fuck knucle is responsible for this? Oct 05 11:17:41 what fuck knuckle is responsible for this? Oct 05 11:18:21 bluez should provite bluz-utils... fail packager ^_^ Oct 05 11:18:40 Luke-Jr: dooood! Oct 05 11:18:44 wai... maemo-man? Oct 05 11:18:46 oh pan Oct 05 11:19:00 DocScrutinizer51: ping Oct 05 11:19:33 So how do I trick it into thinking 'bluez-utils' package is really there? Oct 05 11:20:37 DocScrutinizer05: ping Oct 05 11:20:57 vi__: edit the package that requires bluez-utils Oct 05 11:21:26 Is just a tar file. Edit the file that looks different to the rest all capital letters ( I forgot lol ) Oct 05 11:21:37 * archeyDevil hasn't used debian primaraly in over 3 years Oct 05 11:21:41 archlinux ♥ Oct 05 11:22:06 doesnt that break a checksum or something? Oct 05 11:22:17 download + edit Oct 05 11:22:25 local != check Oct 05 11:22:29 Got nothing to check against Oct 05 11:22:44 apt not locked to require checks Oct 05 11:22:52 Just install local.dev Oct 05 11:22:53 Just install local.deb Oct 05 11:23:17 dpkg --unpack or something Oct 05 11:26:11 yeah? HTF do I download it? Oct 05 11:26:22 I try apt-get --download-only package Oct 05 11:26:33 and it just shits about broken depen. Oct 05 11:26:46 phone flashing :D Oct 05 11:26:56 erasing CMT? Oct 05 11:27:06 oh i thought you meant raise your shirt if you are a female Oct 05 11:27:12 silly me Oct 05 11:27:28 ? Oct 05 11:27:34 Lava_Croft: Wha..? Oct 05 11:27:57 Programming CMT: slow% -- What is this? AI programming??? xD Oct 05 11:28:05 Why slow -.- Oct 05 11:28:30 Whoah. green on white.. haven't seen text like that in ages!! (used to green on black) Oct 05 11:28:41 * archeyDevil shall stop talking. Bricked brick != bricked anymore :) Oct 05 11:28:52 aww bricked:< Oct 05 11:35:15 Lava_Croft: I bricked my brick xD -- Unbricked now tho :P Oct 05 11:35:42 \o/ Oct 05 11:37:40 \o/ Oct 05 11:37:52 o/ Oct 05 11:37:58 / Oct 05 11:38:02 dammit vi, you ruined it Oct 05 11:38:46 ummm.. Oct 05 11:39:05 My phone .... I go settings. the screen is a little fubar'd blue dotted lines at the top... ? Oct 05 11:42:40 eh Oct 05 11:42:42 Blah. fixed that (change theme, and revert) But still "Device Lock" Oct 05 11:42:52 Any way to change this? Oct 05 11:43:09 The device lock code, I never knew nor touched (and isn't default 12345) Got it 2nd hand Oct 05 11:51:29 archeyDevil: it's saved in CAL, grep -A 13 lock_code /dev/mtd1ro | tail -1 Oct 05 11:52:25 it's crypt(3)ed Oct 05 11:52:44 but it's just numbers, so you can just use a tiny python script to test the possible numbers Oct 05 11:52:44 kerio: john to crack? Oct 05 11:52:53 sure, it would work Oct 05 11:53:04 but it's only numbers, so there's probably a faster way Oct 05 11:53:13 is there a way to tell john to only test numerical passwords? Oct 05 11:53:28 well.. Ima install rootsh then openssh and get my system back to where it was :P Oct 05 11:55:25 Err.. Oct 05 11:55:31 No catalog's for apt? Oct 05 11:56:06 * archeyDevil thinks glitch ^_^ haha Oct 05 11:57:13 Hmm Oct 05 11:59:19 Is there only the extras repo to add? Oct 05 11:59:23 Or is there a core/base? Oct 05 12:00:37 core is nokia mr0 + nokia ssu Oct 05 12:00:43 or something Oct 05 12:00:46 then there's extras-devel Oct 05 12:00:48 and then CSSU Oct 05 12:01:23 archeyDevil: but seriously, find your lock code now Oct 05 12:01:33 kerio: lol Oct 05 12:01:36 it's easy, it's crypt()ed Oct 05 12:01:48 I add the extra repo... but it's not showing lol Oct 05 12:01:58 do you have root access now? Oct 05 12:02:18 sudo grep -A 13 lock_code /dev/mtd1ro | tail -1 Oct 05 12:02:50 kerio: not yet Oct 05 12:03:04 Catalogs: loading.... and now I have them Oct 05 12:03:33 installing rootsh in a minute Oct 05 12:05:45 openssh is in devel-extra right? Oct 05 12:05:50 idl Oct 05 12:05:50 idk Oct 05 12:06:25 there's not exactly any reason to enable anything but extras-devel, if you're careful with what you install and can live with some minor instability Oct 05 12:06:57 As always ^_^ Oct 05 12:07:05 My desktop = archlinux + testing repo ;) Oct 05 12:07:20 Expect failure if you don't read the mailing lists and something critical changes xD Oct 05 12:07:41 It's a great system but no matter the issue, always resolvable Oct 05 12:08:51 O.o Dictionary auto complete - This "new" in PR 1.3? Oct 05 12:09:11 idk Oct 05 12:09:16 i just disable stuff like that Oct 05 12:09:31 Same but it's strange lol Oct 05 12:09:44 Not used to it and it appears when I use PR 1.3 Oct 05 12:21:42 ping merlin1991 Oct 05 12:21:56 Pali: pong Oct 05 12:23:24 kerio: number .... How long should this grep take? Oct 05 12:24:18 kerio: I also didn't do tail -1 I can tail it out myself.. not gonna wait for it to finish from all input Oct 05 12:25:09 it's really, really quick Oct 05 12:25:10 idk Oct 05 12:25:13 err Oct 05 12:25:25 whoops XD 'lock_code' didn't type that xD Oct 05 12:25:26 lol Oct 05 12:26:00 1a26fFhFNAzb6 Oct 05 12:26:04 anyone wanna decode? Oct 05 12:28:39 jesus Oct 05 12:28:43 titty Oct 05 12:28:44 fucking Oct 05 12:28:46 christ Oct 05 12:29:04 fuck the the cretin who put maemo-pan in the repos. Oct 05 12:29:21 such a broken piece of utter fucking shit. Oct 05 12:29:52 can't install it because of a non-existant dependency. Oct 05 12:29:54 WANKER Oct 05 12:30:18 cannot uninstall it because it chokes on its own post script. Oct 05 12:30:21 BASTARD Oct 05 12:30:39 fails to uninstall because it cannot kill pan-daemon. Oct 05 12:30:55 ther eis no pan daemon running because it is a broken piece of shit. Oct 05 12:31:28 I had to create an infinite bash script called pan-daemon for it to kill just so it would run it's uninstall script. Oct 05 12:31:32 FUCK YOU ASS WIPE. Oct 05 12:33:03 vi__: oh yeah, maemo-pan is broken Oct 05 12:33:10 if you got it from extras-devel you can't complain. Oct 05 12:33:12 archeyDevil: k, one sec Oct 05 12:33:19 kerio: Thanks :) Oct 05 12:34:48 I suspect it was just copypaste from diablo repo Oct 05 12:35:02 Is possible I typo'd that I did type it into irc lol Oct 05 12:35:53 Looks right ^_^ Just double checked.. Oct 05 12:37:25 kerio: Do you have a script working on it now or are you writing one up? :) Oct 05 12:37:55 NIN101: I guess not. Oct 05 12:38:11 However I have never come across a package that is so broken. Oct 05 12:38:44 archeyDevil: wrote one now Oct 05 12:39:07 can the lock code be non-numeric? Oct 05 12:39:15 i hope not Oct 05 12:39:17 i ran that hash thru 1-8 digits without match Oct 05 12:39:23 :c Oct 05 12:39:28 archeyDevil: are you sure about the hash Oct 05 12:39:31 there was alot of "let's push all the diablo packages to fremantle autobuilder and see what comes out" going on in 2009, and also the other way around Oct 05 12:39:44 kerio: Yes.. :/ Oct 05 12:40:39 jaska: the lock code can be 10 digits afaik Oct 05 12:40:42 or possibly even more idk Oct 05 12:40:45 ShadowJK: well that was silly. Oct 05 12:40:59 if its normal crypt then it should be limited to 8? Oct 05 12:41:27 lol, this is real crypt. not lnman. Oct 05 12:41:39 i mean the original unix-style crypt Oct 05 12:41:39 afaik it is normal crypt(3) Oct 05 12:41:44 even totally irrelevant things like the fmradio for N800 which only works on N800 got pushed to fremantle autobuilder lol Oct 05 12:41:48 oh, right Oct 05 12:41:56 then it's just 8 Oct 05 12:42:12 kerio: I need code quick... Dad's kicking me off the computer -.- Oct 05 12:42:23 I just want to have an easily set up IP network over bluetooth to stream music and ssh. Oct 05 12:42:28 echo root:$(grep -A 13 lock_code /dev/mtd1|tail -1): Oct 05 12:42:29 Is that so much to ask? Oct 05 12:42:29 ? Oct 05 12:54:14 kerio: No luck? Oct 05 12:54:33 that cant be a crypt(3) for a 1-8 digit numeric key Oct 05 12:54:55 run echo root:$(grep -A 13 lock_code /dev/mtd1|tail -1): Oct 05 12:55:21 :Q Oct 05 12:55:23 :q Oct 05 12:58:43 jaska: root:la26fFhFNAzb6: Oct 05 12:58:45 Hmm Oct 05 12:58:49 kerio: ^_^ Oct 05 12:59:00 Sorry. Blame the term font :P Oct 05 12:59:05 i don't even Oct 05 12:59:06 55555 Oct 05 12:59:07 l -> 1 Oct 05 12:59:25 Thankyou :D Oct 05 13:05:17 Good night everyone :) Oct 05 13:05:20 Thanks again kerio jaska Oct 05 13:05:49 takes 36s to test every key 1 to 8 digits on my crummy laptop <.< Oct 05 13:06:20 SO SAEF Oct 05 13:16:37 The lock UI accepts up to 10 digits; so I set up a 10-digit lock code, before someone mentioned the crypt thing somewhere, and true enough, it accepts any 8-10 digit string as correct as long as the first 8 digits match. Oct 05 13:18:40 nice :| Oct 05 13:21:23 the same is true for user and root's passwords Oct 05 13:21:29 Also is it just me, or does whatever happens to have been on-screen before autolocking flash briefly visibly on the screen before the unlocking keypad UI plasters itself on top? The inherent information leak there really bugs me, even though it's not exactly likely it'll actually be a problem one day. Oct 05 13:24:27 hello Oct 05 13:24:34 hi Oct 05 13:32:42 ~slap lowkyalur Oct 05 13:32:43 * infobot slaps lowkyalur, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! Oct 05 14:09:06 Pali: pong Oct 05 14:09:41 merlin1991, did you tested u-boot? Oct 05 14:09:55 uh shit I knew I forgot something Oct 05 14:10:01 Pali: I'll do it right away Oct 05 14:10:07 ok :-) Oct 05 14:10:53 now I rewritten assembler code for relocation and fixed reusing some atags Oct 05 14:11:27 but I do not think that this is your problem... (ubifs does not depend on nolo) Oct 05 14:12:12 so when I find out where is problem, I will try to fix it and release new uboot deb Oct 05 14:12:42 btw what information should I gather? Oct 05 14:16:02 atags from stock kernel, hw revision and atags from rescueos? Oct 05 15:36:07 merlin1991, hwrev, atags from kernel booted directly (without u-boot) and atags from rescueos kernel booted from u-boot Oct 05 15:53:25 guys, need some help with gcc inline assembly, could someone confirm/not that lock/unlock macroses do the same as old (commented) ones http://pastebin.com/j3kBZFBT Oct 05 15:55:43 jacekowski, can you look at it? ^^ Oct 05 16:18:09 ping jonwil Oct 05 16:18:37 hi Oct 05 16:20:46 jonwil, do you have some documentation about systemui? Oct 05 16:21:03 not really Oct 05 16:21:13 systemui has some battery plugin (or someting like that) Oct 05 16:21:47 and I still do not know what is systemui doing... Oct 05 16:22:25 the only systemui plugins I know of are tklock (touchscreeen/keypad lock including slide-to-unlock screen) Oct 05 16:22:33 power key menu Oct 05 16:22:45 device lock (with passcode) Oct 05 16:22:49 alarm dialog Oct 05 16:23:03 emergency (presumably for doing emergency calls fast when you need to)_ Oct 05 16:23:16 splash screen (unsure what this one does) Oct 05 16:23:19 mode change Oct 05 16:23:25 and acting dead Oct 05 16:23:32 no idea about the workings of most of em Oct 05 16:23:49 I know bits and pieces about tklock but that about it Oct 05 16:26:55 jonwil, but do you know something about systemui daemon? Oct 05 16:27:12 almost nothing Oct 05 17:29:11 hi there.got an n900 and set up to usb otg Oct 05 17:30:05 got an y cable,a usb charger,a usb hub with mouse and keyboard Oct 05 17:30:55 if i select usb host mode with charging it refuses to set to that mode.error:charger attached Oct 05 17:31:20 need some advice Oct 05 17:32:36 zsolt: mind you, it's not usb otg Oct 05 17:32:39 it's usb host Oct 05 17:32:54 zsolt: are you using h-e-n or usbmode? Oct 05 17:33:17 yes Oct 05 17:33:42 using usb mode Oct 05 17:34:19 i'd like to charg my phone and empower devices too Oct 05 17:34:25 at the same time Oct 05 17:34:35 blastemy Oct 05 17:35:12 blasphemy.. Oct 05 17:37:47 why can't charge my phone and use usb host mode at the same time? Oct 05 17:39:17 zsolt: which charger are you using? Oct 05 17:39:28 no Oct 05 17:39:35 got a usb charger Oct 05 17:40:19 put charger to the thinner cable in the Y Oct 05 17:40:22 you MUST use a usb charger that shorts the D+/- and that provides at least 1A Oct 05 17:40:25 ~2119 Oct 05 17:40:25 The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119. Oct 05 17:40:45 to be fair you should only need the 1A Oct 05 17:40:54 what's the error message that you're getting? Oct 05 17:40:56 it provides 1000mA Oct 05 17:40:58 try only connecting the hub first Oct 05 17:43:03 Pali: *poke for help* Oct 05 17:43:09 zsolt: which kernel are you using? Oct 05 17:43:14 the charging module is kinda broken in KP51r1 Oct 05 17:45:52 51 Oct 05 17:46:04 install kp52 Oct 05 17:46:04 srsly Oct 05 17:46:11 2.6.28.10-power51 Oct 05 17:46:26 which repo? Oct 05 17:46:35 thank you Oct 05 17:46:57 ask Pali Oct 05 17:47:02 for the latest version Oct 05 17:47:11 he made some TMO posts but then he said he'd make some more updated packages Oct 05 17:47:12 or something Oct 05 17:47:13 what is problem? Oct 05 17:47:45 Pali: problem with KP51 and usb host while charging Oct 05 17:47:55 he should use KP52, right? Oct 05 17:48:05 kp51 working too Oct 05 17:48:17 i thought the kp51 charging module was kinda borked Oct 05 17:48:45 there was problem with unloading module (caused reboot), but fixed in kp51r1 Oct 05 17:49:12 so is the charging error fixed with r1? Oct 05 17:49:12 yeah but there was a problem with the sysfs entries too Oct 05 17:49:13 and problem that driver reported some bad values in sysfs (only outputs) Oct 05 17:49:24 i thought some were only changeable once Oct 05 17:49:25 but ok Oct 05 17:49:28 echo someting > someting worked fine Oct 05 17:49:40 only cat something returing bad values Oct 05 18:05:00 thank you,now it works well Oct 05 18:05:01 :) Oct 05 18:05:20 wait, what did we do? :o Oct 05 18:21:00 jaffa: ping Oct 05 18:27:35 thank you so much!bye Oct 05 18:27:41 gotta go Oct 05 19:12:51 merlin1991, did you tested uboot? Oct 05 19:14:05 Pali: I'll give you the full set of info tomorrow Oct 05 19:14:28 merlin1991, thanks Oct 05 19:24:43 Pali: where are the new kp52pre debs? Oct 05 19:24:58 did you make them already? Oct 05 19:25:13 kerio, new not yet Oct 05 19:58:27 hi all Oct 05 20:04:37 maybe someone can help me...today I flashed my n900 and, after installing CSSU always have this error on apt-get update: http://pastebin.com/TmA26YgR ....any idea? Oct 05 20:07:02 bullet9mm: everyone has that problem Oct 05 20:07:15 KEYEXPIRED is the hint there ;) Oct 05 20:08:43 hi all. is there rsync access to repository.maemo.org? Oct 05 20:09:17 (rsync doesn't work. is it possible to rsync it some way.. maybe it's running on a non-standard port?) Oct 05 20:10:12 merlin1991: I found this http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87208 ...it works? Oct 05 20:18:10 hi Oct 05 20:19:14 i just got my N900 and flashed the current image (20.2010.36-2). Everything seems to work fine but the default browser failes to load any webpage Oct 05 20:19:22 email on the other side works Oct 05 20:19:58 I'm sorry if my questions sounds stupid but I am new to maemo...there are any external/unofficial repos that provide the same software of the ones wich has issues? Oct 05 20:20:05 weird Oct 05 20:20:35 entitled: indeed, i testet firefox before flashing and it working super fast Oct 05 20:20:36 Maybe an issue with the operator/sim-specific settings Oct 05 20:20:44 entitled: i'm using wlan Oct 05 20:21:21 ah Oct 05 20:22:25 how can i use ping? Oct 05 20:22:45 bullet9mm: the repos still work, it just complains, that the singing key is expired Oct 05 20:23:01 which should have no direct affect on using apt-get Oct 05 20:23:10 masch: ping only works for root Oct 05 20:23:31 it's not setuid because it's part of the busybox binary which would make stuff like cp rm ... setuid root aswell Oct 05 20:24:30 oh okay Oct 05 20:25:10 so i need to reflash with --set-rd-flags to be able to become root? Oct 05 20:25:34 no need to reflash just run flasher with the commando Oct 05 20:25:43 okay Oct 05 20:25:52 or install rootsh from the repos to enable "root" as a commando Oct 05 20:26:27 what repos? i just wanted to install cssu because the default applicantion manager offers nothing :D Oct 05 20:26:53 nothing? Oct 05 20:26:56 outch Oct 05 20:27:08 and what happens if you let it run a bit? Oct 05 20:27:13 default app manager is uberslow Oct 05 20:27:17 ohhwaait Oct 05 20:27:29 first time it told me that there is nothing instantly Oct 05 20:27:33 now its loading Oct 05 20:27:56 ohh icons, nice :D Oct 05 20:28:27 a notice that i'm mirroring (rate limited to less than 1 request per second) using http instead Oct 05 20:28:42 just the fremantle related bits of repository.maemo.org Oct 05 20:29:22 muks_: http://maemo.merlin1991.at/apt-mirror/ ;) Oct 05 20:29:55 this is for https://akira.org/ (i had posted this video on the maemo forums some time ago: https://staff.banu.com/~muks/tmp/hildon-desktop3.ogg) Oct 05 20:30:59 merlin1991: does that mirror using apt? :) Oct 05 20:31:13 it mirrors with apt-mirorr :D Oct 05 20:31:17 heh Oct 05 20:31:24 mm Oct 05 20:31:46 entitled: merlin1991: installed opera mini, browsing works Oct 05 20:32:23 i'll keep the wget mirror run going as i'm first getting it to a server that runs an RPM distro; will rsync from there locally after that Oct 05 20:32:24 btw I just saw the webpage, did you check what the cordia guys have till now? Oct 05 20:32:50 merlin1991: yes, i talk to smoku sometimes, but haven't talked to him for a a couple of months Oct 05 20:38:45 muks_: that video is pretty :3 Oct 05 20:40:37 sorry merlin1991 ...but when you tell "which should have no direct affect on using apt-get" I think you are wrong...when I use apt-get to install something that depends on the repos which has expired key I cannot continue with installation. Oct 05 20:40:52 of course you can Oct 05 20:40:55 the packages are just not verified Oct 05 20:40:57 it asks you Oct 05 20:41:42 you should be able to install with anyway typing y Oct 05 20:43:12 kerio: thank you; if akira works out, it'll be a libre distro like debian is.. it is a lot of work, but i really like the gtk+ fremantle and ever since it was shutdown (moving to harmattan back then), i've thought that someone should maintain it Oct 05 20:43:38 muks_: isn't it like h-d for tizen? Oct 05 20:44:13 kerio: do you mean the cordia project? Oct 05 20:44:22 yes, that Oct 05 20:45:50 akira will be a deb based distribution, much like fremantle. there are also different goals from codia, but i think we'll share work where there's common overlap Oct 05 20:47:01 we both worked on getting gtk3 libhildon up and running (though there is still a lot of work left before a gtk3 transition can be looked at.. things like sapwood don't work for gtk3) Oct 05 20:48:41 hmm. Oct 05 20:53:17 it needs more developers like smoku to help him.. running a largish distro is a lot of work. it look many people to pull this off at nokia. Oct 05 20:54:16 s/look/took/ Oct 05 20:54:17 muks_ meant: it needs more developers like smoku to help him.. running a largish distro is a lot of work. it took many people to pull this off at nokia. Oct 05 20:59:10 anyone knows a good twitter client for maemo? Oct 05 20:59:25 tweego is quite nice Oct 05 20:59:44 and the fastest to boot, though it still does not do native retweets Oct 05 21:00:15 ok, it works! thanks a lot merlin1991! :) Oct 05 21:00:43 when i click on "allow tweeGo" it tells me that there are network problems T_T Oct 05 21:03:51 Samsung Creates New File System F2Fs For Linux & Android Oct 05 21:04:25 hi I setup on my pc mediamonkey as dlna server. how can I play music on my n900 ? Oct 05 21:10:15 dafuq? is twitter down? next twitter client tells me that twitter responses with http 401 Oct 05 21:15:29 401 mean unauthoriezed Oct 05 21:15:38 so maybe twitter changed something on the api again? Oct 05 21:15:50 did you try khtweeteur or how it's called? Oct 05 21:20:30 yes, that tells me that the error ist 401 Oct 05 21:20:42 tweego just tells me that there is an error Oct 05 21:22:19 kast commit to tweego is from last year, maybe its outdated Oct 05 21:22:21 *last Oct 05 21:22:54 masch: on maemo *everything* is outdated Oct 05 21:23:08 merlin1991: :D i know Oct 05 21:23:36 but at least on maemo, you are able and allowed to fix it Oct 05 21:27:14 yeah Oct 05 21:48:08 ok dlna works on lan Oct 05 21:48:37 does n900 media player can use dlna from internet ? Oct 05 22:10:48 there is chromium in my repo Oct 05 22:11:01 SpeedEvil: there is chromium in my repo Oct 05 22:34:08 ah Oct 05 22:34:31 how difficult would a build for the raspberry pi be? Oct 05 23:37:24 ~backupmenu Oct 05 23:37:24 methinks backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975 Oct 05 23:39:42 anyone happen to find the "hardware type" is that is required with flasher -c -h Oct 05 23:39:50 (have an n9, need to cold flash) Oct 06 00:23:33 hi, I just found a bug in the chess that came with my n900 phone (maemo5 chess?) Oct 06 00:27:10 arvut, no fixes will be forthcoming. Oct 06 00:27:43 when the computer had a peasant at e4 and I had one at f2, by moving mine to f4 the computer took it by moving e4-f3 Oct 06 00:28:03 heh, I know. but its still kinda fun Oct 06 00:32:53 GeneralAntilles: do you know if the sourcecode for this chess is available? Oct 06 00:33:08 I don't think so, but I don't remember well. Oct 06 00:35:32 arvut: the games are closed source Oct 06 00:35:37 afaik Oct 06 00:35:44 I see Oct 06 00:36:36 good game tho. rather quick calculations on expertmode and so brilliant moves Oct 06 00:36:58 I didn't beat it a single time so far Oct 06 00:37:03 though I suck at chess :D Oct 06 00:39:15 you can only beat computerchess if its illcoded or suicides on purpose ;) Oct 06 00:39:26 good for practice tho Oct 06 01:05:34 closed source and buggy Oct 06 01:05:52 the collision detection in blocks does not work properly Oct 06 01:06:17 hm I never noticed that Oct 06 01:06:40 you can slip a block where t wouldn't fit sometimes. Oct 06 01:07:00 if the final location is good. Oct 06 01:07:16 and there is a block in the way **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Oct 06 03:00:01 2012