**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Oct 10 02:59:58 2012
Oct 10 08:17:20 <zsolt> hi!can't figure out why my custom power kernel is unbootable.compiled power kernel 51r1 from src,used scratchbox's cs2007q3-glibc2.5-arm7
Oct 10 08:18:14 <zsolt> need some help,I'm stuck
Oct 10 08:19:20 <zsolt> u-boot loads kernel,waits for 10 seconds,but there is no such message or warning,it just shuts down my phone
Oct 10 08:19:24 <zsolt> use n900
Oct 10 08:19:48 <zsolt> willing to boot from sd card
Oct 10 08:21:39 <Sicelo> maybe enabling fb will help you ..
Oct 10 08:22:14 <zsolt> it is enabled,but nothing shows up:(
Oct 10 08:22:58 <Sicelo> eew... you need people like Pali or freemangordon then
Oct 10 08:23:10 <zsolt> tryed with cs2009-armv7hard and with arm-eabi,it was the same
Oct 10 08:27:21 <zsolt> thank you
Oct 10 09:04:49 <FIQ|n900> Hmm
Oct 10 09:05:05 <FIQ|n900> If I flash kernel-power, wont that break bootmenu?
Oct 10 09:07:10 <FIQ|n900> I attempted to install kernel-power-bootimg and reinstalling bootmenu but it didn't seem to refresh bootup options
Oct 10 09:08:16 <Sicelo> bootmenu only show's up wehn you boot with keyboard slid out
Oct 10 09:09:07 <FIQ|n900> yes I know
Oct 10 09:09:10 <FIQ|n900> bootmenu works fine
Oct 10 09:09:30 <FIQ|n900> but it still boots the stock kernel, no kernel-power option, etc
Oct 10 09:10:26 <Sicelo> you had kernel power before bootmenu?
Oct 10 09:10:52 <FIQ|n900> nope
Oct 10 09:10:55 <Sicelo> anyway, flashing kernel power shouldn't break bootmenu.. i would go ahead and do it
Oct 10 09:11:03 <FIQ|n900> but I want to intall it now
Oct 10 09:11:07 <FIQ|n900> hmm ok
Oct 10 09:11:09 <FIQ|n900> *install
Oct 10 09:11:12 * Sicelo has both kernel power and bootmenu
Oct 10 09:11:28 <zsolt> could somebody tell me,which compiler is the best for kernel power?
Oct 10 09:14:22 <FIQ|n900> by the way
Oct 10 09:14:38 <FIQ|n900> "   1.  Install the package kernel-power-settings (section system in Application manager). It will automatically also install kernel-power-flasher. "
Oct 10 09:15:06 <FIQ|n900> this was not the case for me, had to install kernel-power-flasher manually
Oct 10 09:15:18 <FIQ|n900> anyway, brb
Oct 10 09:17:54 <FIQ|n900> seems to have worked fine
Oct 10 09:34:00 <Hurrian> Just a special request: Can someone build the kernel-power v51r1 sources with CONFIG_MMC=y, CONFIG_MMC_OMAP_HS=y and CONFIG_EXT4_FS=y
Oct 10 09:38:13 <Hurrian> I'll need the zImage and modules.
Oct 10 09:38:34 <FIQ> also when bootmenu or recovery console stays open for too long, the device shuts off.. is this watchdog or what? also how to disable it?
Oct 10 09:39:28 <Hurrian> it's watchdog, load omap_wdt
Oct 10 09:42:39 <FIQ> hmmm
Oct 10 09:42:51 <FIQ> just modprobe it, or do I need to sent it anything?
Oct 10 11:38:21 <narcos> Hello all.
Oct 10 11:38:52 <narcos> I'd like to re-image my N900, from a Mac. Looking at https://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#Mac_OS_X I notice "Both methods work fine for both the 770 and the N800/N810"
Oct 10 11:38:58 <narcos> but no mention of the N900
Oct 10 11:39:18 <narcos> Anyone have experience re-imaging the N900 from OSX, is then my question?
Oct 10 11:39:52 <Hurrian> narcos, install the MacFlasher
Oct 10 11:40:07 <Hurrian> the installer PKG doesn't work correctly with Lion and newer
Oct 10 11:40:17 <Hurrian> so you have to use Pacifist to manually extract the dylibs etc
Oct 10 11:40:24 <Hurrian> and the Flasher-3.5 binary
Oct 10 11:40:33 <Hurrian> it works in Mountain Lion, btw ;)
Oct 10 11:41:24 <narcos> I have 10.6.8 on this box - should that work?
Oct 10 11:42:42 * narcos loads maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2_i386.dmg
Oct 10 11:45:20 <Hurrian> narcos, it works
Oct 10 11:45:30 <Hurrian> iirc you need to use sudo though
Oct 10 11:46:50 <narcos> Hurrian: Cool, trying now
Oct 10 12:13:25 <narcos> Hmm, weird, I created a 48x48 .png to be used as an icon. I copied it to '/opt/usr/share/pixmaps/', and reference it in a .desktop file (without extension). I get a blue square as an icon now.
Oct 10 12:17:54 <jacekowski> narcos: reboot
Oct 10 12:32:36 <narcos> jacekowski: Still blue
Oct 10 12:32:46 <narcos> (da be dee duba dye)
Oct 10 12:36:17 <Hurrian> narcos: put it in /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/
Oct 10 15:32:23 <kerio> hm, i'm getting Err on https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com from apt-get
Oct 10 15:33:41 <Sicelo> signature thing?
Oct 10 15:43:39 <kerio> Sicelo: hm, it shouldn't be an Err, though
Oct 10 15:43:47 <kerio> maybe the ssl cert expired too?
Oct 10 15:55:24 <freemangordon> hehe, moving dots :P
Oct 10 15:56:53 <freemangordon> oops, ECHAN
Oct 10 20:11:44 <Raimu> Ooh, Opera update for the n900.
Oct 10 20:11:54 <Raimu> v12.1, heavenly.
Oct 10 20:16:52 <Sicelo> oh
Oct 10 20:17:22 * Sicelo hasn't done a refresh/update in some time
Oct 10 20:17:47 <Sicelo> Raimu: what are the noticeable improvements?
Oct 10 20:30:28 <kerio> merlin1991: update!
Oct 10 20:30:52 <Raimu> Sicelo: ...Bigger version number!
Oct 10 20:31:46 <Raimu> Honestly though, I can't remember anymore. I looked them up when 12 appeared on other platforms months ago.
Oct 10 20:45:38 <zsolt> hello
Oct 10 20:46:05 <zsolt> power kernel is unbootable if i try to boot up from sd card
Oct 10 22:14:50 <DocScrutinizer05> [general notice] Nomination period for council elections extended til 2012-10-28. PLEASE CONSIDER NOMINATING yourself or others! see: http://maemo.org/community/council/maemo_elections-september_2012/
Oct 10 22:16:18 <timeless> anyone here happen to speak swedish?
Oct 10 22:16:24 <timeless> Raimu: ooh, nice
Oct 10 22:16:26 <DocScrutinizer05> sorry
Oct 10 22:17:08 <DocScrutinizer05> timeless: how's about standing for council?
Oct 10 22:17:14 <GeneralAntilles> Haha
Oct 10 22:17:18 <timeless> heh
Oct 10 22:17:20 <timeless> very funny
Oct 10 22:17:21 <DocScrutinizer05> you are one of the mammouts
Oct 10 22:17:26 <deepy> timeless: I do
Oct 10 22:17:33 <timeless> deepy: ooh
Oct 10 22:17:40 <timeless> so, most languages will write distances like:
Oct 10 22:17:43 <DocScrutinizer05> GeneralAntilles: shutup!! ;-)
Oct 10 22:17:44 <timeless> "20 km" "100 km"
Oct 10 22:17:57 <timeless> is swedish more likely to write "20km" "100km" ?
Oct 10 22:18:12 <deepy> Yes, but I'll have to double check that one
Oct 10 22:18:21 <timeless> please :)
Oct 10 22:18:35 <DocScrutinizer05> eh????
Oct 10 22:19:03 <DocScrutinizer05> if it's 20km, why would some Swedish write "100km"?
Oct 10 22:20:08 <DocScrutinizer05> ooh, it's about the space in between
Oct 10 22:20:10 <timeless> i have an app that analyzes translations, and i noticed a discrepancy between Swedish and everything else
Oct 10 22:20:15 <timeless> DocScrutinizer05: =)
Oct 10 22:20:35 <DocScrutinizer05> in German it's without space I guess
Oct 10 22:21:44 <DocScrutinizer05> anyway in German it's km/h, not kmh or similar BS
Oct 10 22:22:10 <timeless> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1863381
Oct 10 22:22:25 <timeless> is the output from my app based on some version of google earth's localization files
Oct 10 22:23:24 <DocScrutinizer05> hey, you know I worked for Siemens with Navi voice which been my domain?
Oct 10 22:23:34 <DocScrutinizer05> sounds *very* similar
Oct 10 22:24:33 <DocScrutinizer05> really funny to record all the shit again because we forgot/mis-took one single word, for one language
Oct 10 22:25:28 <deepy> timeless: it's more likely to be 100km
Oct 10 22:25:32 <DocScrutinizer05> (you know you can't construct smooth-sounding sentences from words recorded on differnet days)
Oct 10 22:25:40 <timeless> deepy: without the space
Oct 10 22:25:42 <timeless> interesting
Oct 10 22:26:00 <deepy> I did a blind test with 3 friends
Oct 10 22:26:18 <deepy> they all went "Hmm, that has to be personal preference" but all opted for 100km
Oct 10 22:26:33 <DocScrutinizer05> yep
Oct 10 22:26:34 <timeless> interesting
Oct 10 22:27:17 <DocScrutinizer05> have fun in the Americas, with their M iles
Oct 10 22:27:39 <DocScrutinizer05> ;-)
Oct 10 22:27:42 <timeless> DocScrutinizer05: this has nothing to do w/ miles v. km
Oct 10 22:27:47 <timeless> and everything about how spaces are applied
Oct 10 22:27:58 <timeless> just interesting to see that swedish (and not german!) omits the space
Oct 10 22:28:00 <DocScrutinizer05> eh?
Oct 10 22:28:33 <timeless> see the html i pastebin'd
Oct 10 22:28:54 <DocScrutinizer05> well, swedish (or $random) omitting space (or not) is minor to some funny weirdos apllying a different metrics
Oct 10 22:29:03 * timeless shrugs
Oct 10 22:29:40 <DocScrutinizer05> we had quite some fun with GB back when
Oct 10 22:30:04 <DocScrutinizer05> and not only for their "wrong" side to drive on
Oct 10 22:30:20 <DocScrutinizer05> (navi - you see?)
Oct 10 22:33:31 <deepy> timeless: do I now appear in any CREDITS.txt as Swedish locale expert?
Oct 10 22:33:45 <timeless> heh
Oct 10 22:33:45 <timeless> no
Oct 10 22:33:54 <deepy> or Internationalization expert in Swedish
Oct 10 22:34:07 <timeless> sorry, this is just using my tool against a random unrelated party's data as sample input
Oct 10 22:34:25 <deepy> It's okay, I already have a fancy title at work
Oct 10 22:34:33 <timeless> but if i have a swedish question in the future, i'm now more likely to ask here, i may or may not remember that you helped me, but i'll remember that this channel worked
Oct 10 22:34:52 <deepy> ooh, you should probably remember my nickname instead
Oct 10 22:34:59 <deepy> I am on IRC at random times
Oct 10 22:35:06 <deepy> and I'm in more than 450 channels
Oct 10 22:38:44 * timeless updates Opera for n900
Oct 10 22:40:03 <timeless> DocScrutinizer05: for the record, i'm fairly certain my employer would object
Oct 10 22:40:43 <DocScrutinizer05> ooh
Oct 10 22:40:57 <DocScrutinizer05> quite nasty bemployer
Oct 10 22:41:04 <DocScrutinizer05> -b
Oct 10 22:41:06 <DocScrutinizer05> or not
Oct 10 22:42:42 <DocScrutinizer05> deepy: my fancy title is my nick on IRC ;-)
Oct 10 22:43:51 <DocScrutinizer05> deepy: WUT???? fourhunderedandfitty chans??
Oct 10 22:44:05 <deepy> Yeah, it went down a bit when I changed to irssi
Oct 10 22:44:08 <DocScrutinizer05> dafaq, I start getting mad on my 30
Oct 10 22:44:30 <DocScrutinizer05> well, I'm chanop on 20 of them
Oct 10 22:47:29 <ketas> somehow, "proper n9 channels" are mostly idle
Oct 10 22:52:09 <DocScrutinizer05> proper #n9 channel is mine :-/
Oct 10 22:52:39 <DocScrutinizer05> ""mine""
Oct 10 22:52:56 <DocScrutinizer05> like to become co-chanop?
Oct 10 22:54:41 <DocScrutinizer05> ketas: I'd love to share responsibility - I really fail on taking care about that channel
Oct 10 23:08:33 <ketas> irc channels are easier to take care of than people and animals
Oct 10 23:10:21 <Gh0sty> 00:44 < DocScrutinizer05> dafaq, I start getting mad on my 30
Oct 10 23:10:32 <Gh0sty> this is channel 20 of ... 32 :p
Oct 10 23:12:29 <DocScrutinizer05> ketas: only until kerio comes in ;-P
Oct 10 23:13:29 <ketas> what does kerio do
Oct 10 23:13:35 <DocScrutinizer05> I admit freenode is doing an *extremely* good job to keep spam-bots and the like out, since >1year now
Oct 10 23:14:05 <DocScrutinizer05> kerio: ^^^ what do you do? ;-P
Oct 10 23:14:44 <DocScrutinizer05> well, s/kerio/e.*_/
Oct 10 23:16:34 <DocScrutinizer05> nah, nevermind kerio, he's occasionally in a trolling mood, but he's actually a valuable community meber
Oct 10 23:16:53 <DocScrutinizer05> member*
Oct 10 23:17:05 <ketas> a weirdo
Oct 10 23:17:12 * ketas pats kerio 
Oct 10 23:18:20 <DocScrutinizer05> while estel_ and me are the neutrinos and anti-matter of the maemo universe
Oct 10 23:18:56 <ketas> what happens if they are removed
Oct 10 23:19:07 <ketas> probably everything blows up
Oct 10 23:19:12 <DocScrutinizer05> nothing, everybody will be more happy
Oct 10 23:19:43 <DocScrutinizer05> if you remove both same moment
Oct 10 23:22:01 <DocScrutinizer05> but, if you maybe got that wrong, mine is the neutrino part. and my ubiquity diminuished during last 9 moths to maybe 10%, without anybody really noticing
Oct 10 23:23:01 <DocScrutinizer05> you still dunno where and when and how much I am, but evidently I got less relevant
Oct 10 23:26:25 * DocScrutinizer05 checks latest funny embroilments on tmo council election thread, then vanishes into a parallel universe for another 29.5h
Oct 10 23:27:40 <ketas> whayt
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