**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Oct 22 03:00:00 2012 Oct 22 05:31:51 hi!use bluemaemo to play games on my pc,but my problem is that cant press 2 keys at the same time in gamepad mode Oct 22 05:48:32 Hi, is it possible to create a shortcut for a directory or a file? Oct 22 05:48:48 I want to open a pdf quickly Oct 22 06:21:23 well, seems you could create a desktop shortcut for arbitrary http URL, then edit to file://path/to/file Oct 22 06:21:36 LaoLang_cool: ^^^ Oct 22 06:22:09 DocScrutinizer05: so that microB can download it again? Oct 22 06:22:21 ?? Oct 22 06:22:24 no download Oct 22 06:22:40 path/to/file is local Oct 22 06:22:54 yes but microb will prompt you to open or download Oct 22 06:22:59 WFM at least for text files (ascii) Oct 22 06:23:03 but open is "download to tempdir then open" Oct 22 06:23:04 as well as music Oct 22 06:23:25 mediaplayer handles urls, pdf viewer doesn't Oct 22 06:24:24 well, if microB isn't able to start pdf viewer when URL points to a pdf, then you're out of luck Oct 22 06:24:46 :( Oct 22 06:24:50 it can, but only after downloading, i think Oct 22 06:25:17 FFS, I gathered the pdf is local anyway Oct 22 06:25:24 oh, still no friendly Oct 22 06:25:45 DocScrutinizer05: it's a URI like many others Oct 22 06:25:56 so what? Oct 22 06:26:06 how to quickly access a directory? Oct 22 06:26:10 how about you test it instead of pestering me? Oct 22 06:26:14 so i doubt it's special-cased Oct 22 06:26:38 DocScrutinizer05: good morning to you too :3 Oct 22 06:30:04 first step: enter >> file://path/to/local/pdffile.pdf << into microB URL Oct 22 06:30:17 step two: hit Oct 22 06:33:57 WFM Oct 22 06:34:09 any questions? Oct 22 06:34:45 DocScrutinizer05, No, thank you, it works :) Oct 22 06:34:53 yw Oct 22 06:35:12 I tried to find the shortcut file in filesytem, but failed... Oct 22 06:35:33 now the trick is you need to create a shortcut for arbitrary URL on desktop, then edit the URL of that shortcut Oct 22 06:36:22 I think e.g. tweakr can edit desktop shortcuts Oct 22 06:36:27 I don't know which file maemo creates for me, I searched *.desktop file in /usr/share/, but without luck Oct 22 06:37:05 I already did that, but fail to recall *how* I did it, right now Oct 22 06:38:01 ok, thank you DocScrutinizer05. Oct 22 06:38:33 This way feels weired though, it will open a blank brower window, I have to close it manually Oct 22 06:38:45 dammit, tweakr can only edit label, not URI Oct 22 06:40:25 well, then at least you have an easy way to create the desktop shortcut ;-) Oct 22 06:40:59 yes Oct 22 06:50:14 you can be lazy and add a browser bookmark Oct 22 06:51:08 Yes, I've done it :) Oct 22 06:51:21 Actually, I add a directory to it... Oct 22 06:51:45 so I can open other files easily in the same directory Oct 22 08:51:51 hi, is the n900 sim lock free? Can I check it somehow for sure? Oct 22 08:52:24 there were no simlocked n900's as fas as i know Oct 22 08:57:57 then perhaps my vodafone sim card is not active after no traffic for 2.5 months.. Oct 22 08:58:12 should I still see 3g and vodafone ie for an inactive sim card in the top bar? Oct 22 08:58:22 no Oct 22 08:58:35 maybe Oct 22 08:58:43 you should be able to make emergency calls regardless Oct 22 08:59:07 I just wanna get my vodafone sim card used for an incoming call Oct 22 08:59:25 as my other sim card in n9 is not working fine when serving long calls and ap in the meantime. Oct 22 08:59:29 ap goes usually off. Oct 22 09:57:11 how can I mute the incoming calls on my N900? Oct 22 09:57:21 without a hackish way just from the UI :-) Oct 22 09:58:43 I do not seem to find any options for this in the settings. Oct 22 09:59:19 flip the phone? Oct 22 09:59:35 means? Oct 22 09:59:46 it will mute the incoming call Oct 22 09:59:49 I would like to do this permanently. Oct 22 09:59:57 aka. a settings. Oct 22 09:59:59 setting* Oct 22 10:00:05 tap on the status bar, go to profiles, choose silent Oct 22 10:00:28 can I also turn the boot noise off? Oct 22 10:00:34 the usual Nokia sound, I presume. Oct 22 10:00:45 so so everything should be silent... Oct 22 10:00:51 i dont think so but you can test it out Oct 22 10:00:53 except the talks... Oct 22 10:01:05 flickering is ok. Oct 22 10:01:24 I do not see "profiles" anywhere. Oct 22 10:01:43 "Profile" Oct 22 10:01:53 ahh in the settings, not in the topbar... Oct 22 10:02:10 i have it in the status bar too Oct 22 10:02:16 my bad.. Oct 22 10:02:30 system sounds -> off. Oct 22 10:02:37 perhaps that eliminates the boot s tuff Oct 22 10:02:47 maybe Oct 22 10:05:18 trx: thanks Oct 22 11:04:09 so I'm trying to compile moc... and now I'm getting this error during make http://pastebin.com/P5jmKdf7 Oct 22 11:04:31 it Oct 22 11:04:43 it's something about libdb, but it is installed Oct 22 11:05:52 Skry: I had another though on your quest for super. Oct 22 11:08:08 Jade, Oct 22 11:12:51 vi_: lets hear it then? Oct 22 11:13:18 Skry: Actually I think I allready mentioned it. Oct 22 11:13:35 Did you try xbindkeys and xdotool? Oct 22 11:13:48 OK Oct 22 11:14:06 now I understand. set_msgcall is from libdb4.3 Oct 22 11:14:16 and on n900 its only possible to install libdb4.2 Oct 22 11:15:37 so now it's time to compile libdb4.3? Fuck. Oct 22 11:15:44 vi_: I'll try now Oct 22 11:17:25 by the way, why can't I take moc .deb package that comes for the debian and install it on n900? Oct 22 11:18:34 akls, you can try. Oct 22 11:18:51 but it would still throw an error about libdb4.3 :\\\ Oct 22 11:18:56 the libraries shit depends on would probably by the problem. Oct 22 11:19:24 akls, are you talking about a debian package that requires libdb4.3? Oct 22 11:19:35 dpkg -x file.deb directory/ Oct 22 11:20:25 then dpkg -e file.deb directory/ Oct 22 11:20:27 Hurrian, I'm trying to install moc from source on n900 Oct 22 11:20:31 ah Oct 22 11:21:09 you can try running "dpkg -x file.deb /" if it's available for Debian ARM Oct 22 11:21:29 somehow I don't get how it's going to help Oct 22 11:21:56 that would install moc into your rootfs, skipping the whole dependency check Oct 22 11:22:03 wheter it would work or not is a different story Oct 22 11:22:12 oh Oct 22 11:22:23 hehe :D Oct 22 11:22:24 if it doesn't actually use newer library features, it'd probably run Oct 22 11:22:43 well I'll try it if nothing works Oct 22 11:25:48 wtf is that? http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan/free/d/db4.8/ Oct 22 11:25:58 how can I get this repository to work? Oct 22 11:26:52 oh Oct 22 11:26:54 that's for meego Oct 22 11:27:16 but the package says maemo?? WTF?? Oct 22 11:27:30 maemo6? O_o Oct 22 11:35:25 http://maemo.org/packages/view/libdb4.7/ and how can I get this package? O_o Oct 22 12:47:29 akls: some like to cal HARMattan maemo6, since Nokia's idea to rename it to meego is ... well, debatable Oct 22 12:48:08 fact is that meego-HARM aka maemo6 is not entirely compatible to maemo5 Oct 22 12:48:57 though you can simply copy *binaries* over from a N900 to a N9 and they usually work, as long as they have no GUI and no tricky low level system stuff Oct 22 12:49:42 I however don't suggest to use libs or services built for HARM on fremantel Oct 22 12:49:49 fremantle* Oct 22 13:04:14 well Oct 22 13:04:18 I have managed to install mocp Oct 22 13:04:19 finally Oct 22 13:04:29 but now it has no decoder plugins, hmmmmm... Oct 22 13:08:24 seems like I have not libmad0 and libmad0-dev Oct 22 13:08:28 but now I have to go Oct 22 13:08:32 byeee Oct 22 13:22:06 DocScrutinizer05: well, there's meecolay or whatever it's called Oct 22 13:48:10 hey Oct 22 13:48:19 can I mix li-ion and lipo batteries? Oct 22 14:04:15 If you connect them in parallell, they must have same voltage when you do it Oct 22 14:04:23 in series you cant Oct 22 14:21:38 I meant parallell. Oct 22 14:22:13 and yes, connecting a battery @3.2v to a battery @4.2v would result in massive failure. Oct 22 14:59:57 da fuggin cellmo hung. Didn't allow data via 2G while 3G worked. Going tablet mode and back to online didn't help, had to do a full reboot Oct 22 15:33:58 DocScrutinizer51: on which one? Oct 22 15:34:02 iron or t? Oct 22 15:35:12 IroN Oct 22 15:35:25 t has no SIM Oct 22 15:35:38 hm Oct 22 15:35:54 busted cellmo or just can't be arsed? Oct 22 15:52:52 Is there a way to force fMMS to check for new MMS? Oct 22 16:00:48 Hi! Is there an online service or application I can measure where my lost N900 can be? Oct 22 16:01:05 I believe I lost it about an hour ago either at the workplace, on the way, or at home. Oct 22 16:01:24 I can write sms and call it, so it is probably still in one piece. I just cannot find it anywhere. Oct 22 16:01:58 unfortunately I turned it into silent this morning, so perhaps I have not recognized the vibration when trying to call it at home and at the company. But I know there are services for instance for Windows phones. Oct 22 16:02:17 djszapi: There is, but you need to install it before you lose it... Oct 22 16:02:57 it was a brand new phone in terms of usage. Oct 22 16:03:07 so only default applications available. Oct 22 16:03:21 djszapi: I am sorry for your loss. Oct 22 16:04:09 :/ Oct 22 16:08:30 I wrote an s.m.s message to the phone which has been delivered, so I can just hope that the founder will have some honour. Oct 22 16:11:32 hi guys Oct 22 16:32:48 great a person replied, and brought the phone back. Amazing, there is still honour in the world. Oct 22 16:51:09 djszapi: "n900" on ebay yields very little money Oct 22 16:52:12 kerio: that does not help when you need it urgently. Oct 22 16:52:21 no, i meant the dude that found it Oct 22 16:52:41 I do not think he even checked it. Oct 22 16:52:48 it was an old man in a very small town. Oct 22 16:53:00 usually such places have some honour even nowadays. Oct 22 16:53:09 if it is found by a kid or teenager, who knows ... Oct 22 17:05:01 :-) Oct 22 18:11:28 " I wrote an s.m.s message to the phone which has been delivered, so I can just hope that the founder will have some honour." Unless the founder is a geek Oct 22 18:11:48 " great a person replied, and brought the phone back. Amazing, there is still honour in the world." haha, just some stupid bitch? :D Oct 22 18:12:37 akls: you're saying geeks have no honour and usually keep shit they found which has obviously been lost (and someone tries to find it)? Oct 22 18:13:22 i sure would have gotten myself into the phone to get hold of the owner who misses it Oct 22 18:13:34 being one of those geeks that don't agree with your statement ;-) Oct 22 18:17:39 akls: an old man. Oct 22 18:19:21 djszapi: good riddance! Oct 22 18:19:28 now keep that karma in mind :-) Oct 22 18:19:53 yes, I appreciate this a lot. Oct 22 18:21:05 not that it is unbroken, as the screen is quite scratched etc, but that is my fault. Oct 22 18:21:11 I should stop the reckless biking ^^ Oct 22 18:21:16 raccoon_, did you just call n900 shit??? Oct 22 18:21:37 don't say such words about my girlfriend!!! Oct 22 18:22:17 girlfriends are heavily overrated ^^ Oct 22 18:26:21 djszapi: just buy an otterbox Oct 22 18:26:29 and a screen protector Oct 22 18:26:35 and a screen protector Oct 22 18:27:41 i think we need a screen protector! Oct 22 18:28:34 he probably left to buy the otterbox and the two screen protectors Oct 22 18:28:59 hope so! Oct 22 18:59:01 I can login at garage.maemo.org but can't login in maemo.org Oct 22 19:33:34 well, maybe that's related to both being completely unrelated Oct 22 19:36:33 DocScrutinizer05, ? Oct 22 19:37:18 DocScrutinizer05, but if I press "register" at maemo.org it redirects me to garage.maemo.org Oct 22 19:48:56 freemangordon: ping Oct 22 19:49:09 packet loss Oct 22 20:04:42 YESSSSSSSSSSSS YESSSSSSSSS YESSSSSSSSSSSS Oct 22 20:04:48 and no, fuck, fuck, fuck. Oct 22 20:05:23 Jade, Oct 22 20:05:37 I have installed moc! Oct 22 20:05:46 but it eats 100% cpu at 600 MHz Oct 22 20:05:53 same behavior as in easy debian Oct 22 20:06:24 what is moc? Oct 22 20:06:54 text based music player Oct 22 20:07:10 http://moc.daper.net/ try it out Oct 22 20:07:13 it is awesome Oct 22 20:07:19 o0 Oct 22 20:07:29 100% Oct 22 20:07:38 well do not install random shit Oct 22 20:07:39 wtf is it using to decode? Oct 22 20:07:50 a potatoe? Oct 22 20:08:10 for mp3 libmad0 libmad0-dev libid3tag0 libid3tag0-dev Oct 22 20:08:31 are those libs neon optimised? Oct 22 20:08:53 have you considered using FMGs thumb toolchain. Oct 22 20:08:56 ? Oct 22 20:09:16 I don't even know what are you talking about Oct 22 20:09:26 AFAIK it uses some new fancy shit the neon-i-fies by itself. Oct 22 20:09:30 lol Oct 22 20:09:50 does it use 100% when it is playing nothing? Oct 22 20:09:54 no Oct 22 20:10:03 just decoding mp3? Oct 22 20:10:08 playing mp3 Oct 22 20:10:09 ye Oct 22 20:10:26 is there any way you can get it to use ffmpeg/mplayer as backend? Oct 22 20:11:42 http://moc.daper.net/node/87 Oct 22 20:11:53 well, it should use ffmpeg for playing aac and mp4 Oct 22 20:12:01 but I was unable to find ffmpeg dev packages Oct 22 20:12:04 do you guys know if flasher-3.5 does something to CAL? Oct 22 20:12:08 Y NO 4 MP3??? Oct 22 20:12:26 kerio: you can use it to set CAL flags. Oct 22 20:12:40 otherwise, I do not think so. Oct 22 20:12:40 only rdmode Oct 22 20:12:57 yah. Oct 22 20:13:03 Why? Oct 22 20:13:23 vi__, what can I do :< Oct 22 20:13:27 there was some guy Oct 22 20:13:28 Jade, Oct 22 20:13:30 Jade, Oct 22 20:13:43 that claimed that he was able to install moc successfully Oct 22 20:13:57 without making it eat 100% cpu Oct 22 20:14:06 well investigate how you can configure what it uses for backend. Oct 22 20:14:09 use Oct 22 20:14:42 gstreamer>ffmpeg/mplayer>libmad>everything else Oct 22 20:15:19 easy debian mplayer (not neon optimised) eats 100% cpu as well. Oct 22 20:16:12 neon is special bit of the cpu for doing maths, like decoding mp3. Oct 22 20:21:22 vi__, I was trying moc on easy debian - same thing! 100% cpu Oct 22 20:21:29 vi__, but mpg123 was ok Oct 22 20:24:10 Jade, wake up! I want you Oct 22 20:37:11 DocScrutinizer: infobot joined! Oct 22 20:40:54 infobot: yay Oct 22 20:40:55 Yipee! Oct 22 20:59:04 Jade, wake up magic man Oct 22 21:11:37 eh? Oct 22 21:14:05 221241 only rdmode)) nope, also a lot of more special flags, parameters for r&d mode Oct 22 21:14:19 that's kinda what i meant Oct 22 21:16:47 but yeah, rdmode and the various flags for rdmode Oct 22 21:21:03 DocScrutinizer05, was that "eh" directed to me? Oct 22 21:29:03 .well shit Oct 22 21:29:29 I have just increased my n900 collection by 200% Oct 22 21:30:19 I am going to make a megalodon BEAST battery. Oct 22 21:30:38 3700mAh Oct 22 21:30:53 all fitting into a mugen cover. Oct 22 21:31:23 lies Oct 22 21:31:35 I shit you not. Oct 22 21:31:51 with one battery in the slot and two sideways? Oct 22 21:32:11 nope Oct 22 21:32:24 that wouldnt fit anyways. Oct 22 21:32:29 ... Oct 22 21:32:46 unless maybe you took the pcb of the sideways batterys... Oct 22 21:32:52 4500mAh Oct 22 21:33:00 C: Oct 22 21:33:36 I was thinking samsung galaxy s3 cell+bl-5j. Oct 22 21:46:59 OH Oct 22 21:47:03 CMUS is working on n900 Oct 22 21:47:31 so maybe I should just stick to cmus instead of moc? Oct 22 21:48:19 but cmus developer is an asshole anyway... all shortcuts were chosen by random symbol generator? Oct 22 21:48:41 or are they associated somehow with vim commands...? Oct 22 22:02:32 Jaded, ahem! :) Oct 22 22:08:37 yea, cmus takes about 35% at 250 MHz Oct 22 22:10:43 which looks like even lower than with integrated media player Oct 22 22:11:05 I like this channel Oct 22 22:11:13 it's so good to talk to myself here Oct 22 22:12:27 no need for internet then Oct 22 22:14:58 pulseaudios usage is unfortunate Oct 22 22:15:08 at low CPU freqs Oct 22 22:15:39 PA sucks Oct 22 22:15:45 I mean to see if the DMA unit could feed the DAC when the CPU was asleep, bit never got round to it. Oct 22 22:16:19 decode 10s to raw, pass it off to DMA, go to sleep Oct 22 22:52:38 Hi, does anyone know if the X server of the N9 supports rotation? Oct 23 00:04:41 Jaded, Oct 23 01:45:50 SpeedEvil; i suspect that's why the ffmpeg/libav vorbis/mp3 decoders have better battery life Oct 23 01:47:54 doubt it Oct 23 01:48:26 it would need explicit support through the driver stack. Oct 23 01:49:40 it might be difference of 1ms vs 10ms, say Oct 23 01:50:19 I mean actually put most of the CPU to sleep, leaving only DMA +ram up. Oct 23 01:51:17 yeah I think it only went down to C3 Oct 23 01:52:48 I have been womderng about that on the n7 too. lack of processor docs is .... grr Oct 23 01:54:05 * ShadowJK remembers his old isa soundcard Oct 23 01:54:26 after pc utterly crashed, music still played in a 30s loop Oct 23 01:59:16 My Audigy 2ZS has done that, but it's a much shorter loop Oct 23 02:03:49 :-) Oct 23 02:21:55 most soundcards can do that... keep playing the last buffer if no new one is provided... back to isa soundblasters... Oct 23 02:22:42 ah, he was talking about one even **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Oct 23 03:00:00 2012