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Dec 29 07:20:36 <markmx> hi... trying to set http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/curl/7.25.0-1maemo7/ this and getting lotta errors http://pastebin.com/wGFQeFp1
Dec 29 07:28:29 <merlin1991> markmx: well it's pretty obvious
Dec 29 07:28:55 <markmx> aga... but I can't get it
Dec 29 07:29:39 <markmx> http://pastebin.com/1B12BG1c now I have this
Dec 29 07:29:46 <merlin1991> you just need http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/libkrb53/1.6.dfsg.4~beta1-5lenny4/ and http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/libidn11/0.6.5-1/ aswell
Dec 29 07:30:41 <merlin1991> and that you can probably fix by installing http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/libcurl3/7.25.0-1maemo7/
Dec 29 07:32:23 <merlin1991> but in general, why aren't you using apt?
Dec 29 07:34:07 <markmx> wait sec
Dec 29 07:36:03 <markmx> how to it with apt?
Dec 29 07:47:18 <markmx> :)))0 done :)))) it was simple :)
Dec 29 09:44:25 <zsolt> hello.moved from a mobile company to another,but can't use the gprs now.
Dec 29 09:46:39 <zsolt> how to reset the network settings?some settings are unavailable,like adding gprs connection
Dec 29 09:47:45 <zsolt> fapn is not an advanced tool
Dec 29 09:47:52 <zsolt> thank you
Dec 29 09:50:06 <zsolt> in the tech support they said,that maybe the last provider's settings are still active.just need an answer,how to reset it?
Dec 29 09:55:58 <SpeedEvil> there may be a 'send configuration settings' by text
Dec 29 09:56:08 <SpeedEvil> that contains the APN
Dec 29 10:10:34 <kerio> zsolt: just change the current one
Dec 29 11:12:38 <zsolt> well,I sent a text to my provider,but can't receive any kind of settings
Dec 29 11:13:30 <zsolt> when I try to connect to my gprs, it says:internet connection error.try again?
Dec 29 11:15:13 <zsolt> i put the provider's sim to my n900,which I moved from to another,then switched back to my new one and can't connect by gprs anymore
Dec 29 11:16:08 <zsolt> manually configured gprs settings,what they recomended in the support, but still the same :(
Dec 29 11:16:37 <zsolt> I used e90 before,there were a lot of settings,that I can't find in n900
Dec 29 11:28:33 <Sicelo> settings  such as?
Dec 29 11:30:24 <Sicelo> who knows, maybe mobile data is simply not yet enabled on that sim card.
Dec 29 11:32:49 <zsolt> I used last time and it was working
Dec 29 11:33:19 <Sicelo> you can remove a mstuck' APN using gconf. don't blame me if you break something though :-P
Dec 29 11:33:39 <zsolt> :)
Dec 29 11:33:47 <zsolt> i will backup it
Dec 29 11:33:50 <zsolt> before
Dec 29 11:34:09 <Sicelo> i'm not in maemo atm, but tmo should show you how
Dec 29 11:34:33 <zsolt> what file should I have to edit?
Dec 29 11:34:59 <zsolt> I like debian based distros,everything is so clear
Dec 29 11:35:51 <Sicelo> i'mactually on debian with my N900 right now :P
Dec 29 11:36:37 <zsolt> how did you do that?:)i tryed it ,but the kernel doesn't boot
Dec 29 11:57:22 <Sicelo> gry :-)
Dec 29 14:19:29 <chem|st> kerio: pong
Dec 29 14:21:53 <kerio> there's a candidate for comaintainer of TMO
Dec 29 14:24:29 <chem|st> kerio: read about it
Dec 29 14:24:51 <chem|st> kerio: his name does not make a sound in my ears
Dec 29 14:25:22 <chem|st> kerio: I replied to the emails as requested
Dec 29 14:41:05 <DocScrutinizer05> chem|st: HtheB well known on tmo
Dec 29 14:41:34 <DocScrutinizer05> I have no rating for his actions there though, due to my own rare attendance to tmo
Dec 29 14:41:59 <DocScrutinizer05> know he's been around for like forever
Dec 29 14:42:55 <DocScrutinizer05> and never posted anything I'd have seen that annoyed me so much I'd keep a negative record with his nick
Dec 29 14:43:45 <DocScrutinizer05> IOW no objections and a mild approval for authenticity from me
Dec 29 14:43:57 <DocScrutinizer05> rest up to you
Dec 29 14:44:56 <DocScrutinizer05> reject or grant as much power as you like
Dec 29 14:45:30 <DocScrutinizer05> you're our new "Reggie" :-D
Dec 29 14:46:03 <DocScrutinizer05> btw if you feel it's getting too much, we need to think about CSSU-S
Dec 29 14:46:55 <DocScrutinizer05> CSSU maintainer and tmo maintainer might become a tad too much on one plate
Dec 29 14:47:14 <DocScrutinizer05> again up to you, please holler if any discomfort sneaks in
Dec 29 14:48:42 <DocScrutinizer05> after all it's you (the volunteers) who keep maemo alive and define the requirements for doing that. Council and Board are just here to facilitate
Dec 29 14:54:11 <DocScrutinizer05> only mandatory thing you should do: keep us informed so we can handle stuff proactively
Dec 29 14:57:43 <DocScrutinizer05> ooh, I see you've sent a mail. well, as I said, all up to you, you're the ultimate boss of tmo. There's no other boss besides you
Dec 29 14:58:14 <DocScrutinizer05> so also up to you to appoint a stand-in, in case you're not available
Dec 29 14:59:34 <DocScrutinizer05> please notice I explicitly did NOT suggest him for sysop/system-admin, just for tmo vBulletin maintainer under your control
Dec 29 15:01:19 <DocScrutinizer05> so your approach for tmo mod appointment seems all sane
Dec 29 15:01:34 <DocScrutinizer05> and probably fine with HtheB as well
Dec 29 15:02:23 <DocScrutinizer05> please you two discuss this between the two of you, and keep us informed about the final decision
Dec 29 15:03:38 <DocScrutinizer05> I don't think any council member wants to push anything regading those topics, we're just suggesting. Your domain
Dec 29 15:05:07 <DocScrutinizer05> and Board, while legally being future 'owner' of tmo, probably shouldn't decide *anything* except rejecting too weird or problematic requests from council or maintainers
Dec 29 15:06:22 <DocScrutinizer05> *anything* regarding management of HR and administration, that is
Dec 29 20:05:57 <Sicelo> vi____: you have the best N900 keymap out there. nice :)
Dec 29 20:07:39 <kerio> not enough italian accented letters though
Dec 29 20:09:56 <kerio> and not enough links to the magical battery that cures cancer and gives blowjobs
Dec 29 20:10:07 <kerio> vi____: goddammit gimme a link vi
Dec 29 20:11:49 <Sicelo> http://wiki.maemo.org/Remapping_keyboard/user_vis_awesome_kbdmapping
Dec 29 20:12:04 <kerio> Sicelo: no, for the 1600mAh battery he found
Dec 29 20:12:15 <Sicelo> ah
Dec 29 20:12:17 <Sicelo> :P
Dec 29 20:12:41 <Sicelo> get a gf ;-)
Dec 29 20:19:36 <kerio> meh, i hope it's this "1700mAh high capacity battery"
Dec 29 21:38:44 <ShadowJK> what battery did he find?
Dec 29 21:41:11 <fasta> Has anyone ever sued anyone for spamming and won?
Dec 29 21:45:11 <kerio> ShadowJK: a "1700mAh high capacity bl-5j" that has a measured capacity of 1600mAh
Dec 29 21:45:18 <kerio> so... still pretty great
Dec 29 21:45:37 <ShadowJK> link or anything?
Dec 29 21:46:10 <kerio> it should be this one: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1700mAh-BL-5J-Battery-for-Nokia-5523-5230-5230-Nuron-5800XM-5800-XpressMusic-C3-00-N900/312109846.html
Dec 29 21:46:32 <kerio> looks shady as fuck though
Dec 29 21:50:39 <ShadowJK> China post not offered :(
Dec 29 21:50:52 <kerio> i got china post for italy
Dec 29 21:53:28 <ShadowJK> first it said can't ship to Netherlands, I changed to Finland, and it only offered ems :(
Dec 29 21:54:20 <kerio> sucks
Dec 29 22:21:21 <f3bruary> whazaaaaaaaa
Dec 29 22:22:25 <f3bruary> so in which file do the repo sources get set ?
Dec 29 22:22:27 <f3bruary> I found several
Dec 29 22:22:51 <f3bruary> you know the sources.list but then for n900
Dec 29 22:25:17 <f3bruary> not everyone at once
Dec 29 22:26:59 <kerio> f3bruary: we're not all here for you
Dec 29 22:27:07 <kerio> we're all volunteers
Dec 29 22:27:42 <kerio> f3bruary: the "catalogues" you set in HAM (Application Manager) are saved in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-something
Dec 29 22:27:42 <f3bruary> i understand
Dec 29 22:27:48 <kerio> but you're not supposed to change that manually
Dec 29 22:27:58 <f3bruary> thanks
Dec 29 22:28:05 <kerio> you can, of course, add your own file in sources.list.d or even edit /etc/apt/sources.list
Dec 29 22:28:20 <f3bruary> doing it in the application manager takes so long :(
Dec 29 22:28:26 <kerio> HAM will correctly see those repos, he will refuse to edit them however
Dec 29 22:28:32 <kerio> yep, HAM sucks
Dec 29 22:40:56 <DocScrutinizer05> ~fam
Dec 29 22:40:57 <infobot> i guess fapman is Faster Application Manager, a bad package manager that causes problems, don't use it ever again
Dec 29 22:41:14 <DocScrutinizer05> why 'again' ???
Dec 29 22:41:36 <f3bruary> I use it and never have problems with it
Dec 29 22:42:06 <f3bruary> ~ham
Dec 29 22:42:07 <infobot> methinks ham is Hildon Application Manager.  Hazardous Application Manager. Slow like molasses. anticipate you got time for a beer or two until it finishes whatever it does
Dec 29 22:42:20 <f3bruary> lol
Dec 29 22:42:26 <f3bruary> ~help
Dec 29 22:42:30 <f3bruary> ~info
Dec 29 22:42:34 <f3bruary> ~owner
Dec 29 22:42:35 <infobot> TimRiker is my owner
Dec 29 22:42:41 <f3bruary> ic
Dec 29 22:42:44 <kerio> infobot: no, fapman is Faster Application Manager, a bad package manager that causes problems, don't use it, ever
Dec 29 22:42:45 <infobot> kerio: okay
Dec 29 22:44:13 <f3bruary> infobot: Gordon Wood drastically underestimated the impact of social distinctions predicated upon wealth, especially inherited wealth.
Dec 29 22:44:52 <f3bruary> I guess that's not okay
Dec 29 22:45:04 <f3bruary> infobot: Justin Bieber is gay
Dec 29 22:45:04 <infobot> okay, f3bruary
Dec 29 22:45:09 <f3bruary> :D
Dec 29 22:49:04 <teotwaki> ~forget about Justin Bieber
Dec 29 22:49:05 <infobot> teotwaki: i didn't have anything called 'about justin bieber' to forget
Dec 29 22:49:11 <teotwaki> ~forget Justin Bieber
Dec 29 22:49:12 <infobot> teotwaki: i forgot justin bieber
Dec 29 22:50:02 <teotwaki> ~lart f3bruary 
Dec 29 22:50:03 * infobot blasts f3bruary with a huge firehose then strangles f3bruary with it
Dec 29 22:57:22 <f3bruary> ~forget AIDS
Dec 29 22:57:22 <infobot> i forgot aids, f3bruary
Dec 29 22:57:34 <f3bruary> damn I wanted him to say the other thing
Dec 29 22:57:46 <f3bruary> who made him remember aids ?
Dec 29 22:58:19 <teotwaki> f3bruary: ok, who the fuck are you, and why are you messing with infobot?
Dec 29 22:58:24 <teotwaki> ~chaninfo
Dec 29 22:58:25 <infobot> 123/123 channels, 4745 users, 3415 unique: #debian/1240, #kde/377, #maemo/247, #gsoc/185, #asterisk/183, #harmattan/151, #wowuidev/150, #meego/143, #oe/131, #wowace/121, #webos-internals/95, #arm-netbook/94, #wowhead/92, #openmoko/80, #cubieboard/76, #utah/71, #openmoko-cdevel/65, #bzflag/61, #uclibc/59, #tomcat/57, #n9/55, #edev/54, #curseforge/47, #asterisk-dev/45, #htc-linux/45, #maemo-ssu/45, #/41, #elinux/35, #slug/32, #gllug/29, ...
Dec 29 22:58:49 <f3bruary> just another n900 user
Dec 29 23:01:27 <teotwaki> f3bruary: well, infobot isn't only used on maemo, as you can tell. It's shared by a great number of channels---please don't go around deleting factoids for no good reason.
Dec 29 23:02:08 <DocScrutinizer05> f3bruary: stop abusing infobot!
Dec 29 23:02:23 <teotwaki> DocScrutinizer05: how do you undo a forget?
Dec 29 23:02:31 <DocScrutinizer05> ~unforget aids
Dec 29 23:02:32 <infobot> DocScrutinizer05: Successfully recovered 'aids'.  Have fun now.
Dec 29 23:02:38 <teotwaki> ta
Dec 29 23:02:41 <DocScrutinizer05> yw
Dec 29 23:02:53 <DocScrutinizer05> ~ignore f3bruary
Dec 29 23:02:54 <infobot> error: chan #maemo is invalid.
Dec 29 23:03:20 <DocScrutinizer05> I'm tempted to set glon
Dec 29 23:03:25 <DocScrutinizer05> bal ignore on
Dec 29 23:04:44 <DocScrutinizer05> ~status
Dec 29 23:04:45 <infobot> Since Fri Dec 28 20:03:03 2012, there have been 15 modifications, 83 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 36 commands.  I have been awake for 1d 3h 1m 41s this session, and currently reference 118862 factoids.  I'm using about 23380 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 266.42/7.11 child 0.01/0
Dec 29 23:05:05 <DocScrutinizer05> ~factinfo aids
Dec 29 23:05:06 <infobot> aids -- created by ax7 <ax7@66-27-50-36.san.rr.com> at Sat Apr 28 06:00:03 2001 (4263 days); last modified 7m 43s ago  by f3bruary; it has been requested 6 times, last by Jovar1 at Mon Oct 11 20:04:41 2010.
Dec 29 23:05:31 <teotwaki> fuck me, that factoid is over 10 years old
Dec 29 23:05:40 <DocScrutinizer05> :shrug:
Dec 29 23:05:43 <DocScrutinizer05> aids too
Dec 29 23:05:55 <teotwaki> infobot is an older version of wikipedia
Dec 29 23:06:04 <DocScrutinizer05> indeed
Dec 29 23:06:09 <DocScrutinizer05> ~aids
Dec 29 23:06:10 <infobot> aids are what ody has from having so much gay sex
Dec 29 23:06:21 <Sicelo> lol
Dec 29 23:06:21 <f3bruary> lol
Dec 29 23:06:26 <f3bruary> 1st
Dec 29 23:06:26 <teotwaki> okay, granted, that one wasn't that interesting.
Dec 29 23:06:46 <DocScrutinizer05> ~wiki aids
Dec 29 23:06:46 <teotwaki> <Sicelo> lol
Dec 29 23:06:46 <teotwaki> <f3bruary> lol
Dec 29 23:06:52 <infobot> At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aids (URL), Wikipedia explains: "{{Good article}} {{About|the disease|the virus|HIV|other uses|AIDS (disambiguation)}} {{Use mdy dates|date=April 2012}} {{pp-semi-protected|small=yes}}{{pp-move-indef}} {{Infobox disease | Name =HIV/AIDS | Image = Red_Ribbon.svg | Caption = The red ribbon is a symbol for solidarity with HIV-positive people and those living with AIDS. | Alt = A red ribbon in the shape of a bow | Width = ...
Dec 29 23:07:06 <teotwaki> woah
Dec 29 23:07:10 <teotwaki> wiki parsing sucks
Dec 29 23:07:14 <DocScrutinizer05> don't mess with infobot
Dec 29 23:07:25 <infobot> or I'll kick your ass
Dec 29 23:08:30 <teotwaki> DocScrutinizer05: how often did you go down on Ricker in order to get op status on infobot?
Dec 29 23:08:46 <DocScrutinizer05> about 3 years constantly
Dec 29 23:08:59 <DocScrutinizer05> ;-P
Dec 29 23:10:09 <teotwaki> I knew I should've written infobot
Dec 29 23:12:16 <DocScrutinizer05> well, alas I can't code in perl
Dec 29 23:12:33 <DocScrutinizer05> otherwise I might inprove the scheduler
Dec 29 23:12:43 <tadzik> ~source
Dec 29 23:12:44 <infobot> To build Debian packages from source code: first, add a deb-src line to your sources.list file.  Then "apt-get build-dep _pkg_" and "apt-get -b source _pkg_" to retrieve the build-dependencies, and the source.  The resulting .deb files will be in `pwd`.
Dec 29 23:12:56 <tadzik> ~your source, you halfwit
Dec 29 23:12:57 <DocScrutinizer05> teotwaki: if you feel like submitting a patch for that, you might also get admin
Dec 29 23:13:35 <infobot> use /whois, noob!
Dec 29 23:14:22 <teotwaki> DocScrutinizer05: for the wiki stuff?
Dec 29 23:14:37 <DocScrutinizer05> for scheduler
Dec 29 23:14:41 <teotwaki> scheduler?
Dec 29 23:14:53 <DocScrutinizer05> some module needed to make infobot stay online
Dec 29 23:16:04 <DocScrutinizer05> it seems it's doing some online plausibility checks, and schedules re-logins and channel /joins etc
Dec 29 23:16:38 <DocScrutinizer05> since ircd7 it doesn't really work reliably anymore, especially on netsplits
Dec 29 23:17:02 <DocScrutinizer05> Tim repeatedly moaned he'd need to rewrite it since it's crap
Dec 29 23:18:58 <DocScrutinizer05> tadzik: also /msg nickserv info infobot
Dec 29 23:20:52 <DocScrutinizer05> tadzik: or - to quote a related channel's topic: >>Welcome to the infobot channel || Latest version: 1.5.3 @ https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2241 || SVN: 1.5.4 http://infobot.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/infobot/ || Blootbot merged into infobot || apt/ibot/infobot/purl run by TimRiker<<
Dec 29 23:20:56 <tadzik> yeah, I was looking for a git repo or such, but lost interest when everything pointed to sourceforge :P
Dec 29 23:21:55 <teotwaki> tadzik: sourceforge provides svn and git hosting
Dec 29 23:22:20 <teotwaki> DocScrutinizer05: should be rewritten on twisted
Dec 29 23:22:48 <tadzik> duh, this is one ancient Perl
Dec 29 23:23:52 <DocScrutinizer05> ~twisted
Dec 29 23:23:53 <infobot> somebody said twisted was toastido@gmail.com, for paypal and chatter.  He is also known in some circles as toastido.
Dec 29 23:24:05 <tadzik> I wonder how much work would it be to move it to some battle-tested infrastructure, POE or AnyEvent::IRC
Dec 29 23:25:18 <DocScrutinizer05> this convo rapidly turns into gibberish for me
Dec 29 23:26:19 <kerio> DocScrutinizer05: twisted is *the* event-driven framework for python
Dec 29 23:26:32 <DocScrutinizer05> mhm
Dec 29 23:26:33 <kerio> it does everything well
Dec 29 23:26:39 <kerio> (regarding I/O)
Dec 29 23:26:49 <kerio> **everything**
Dec 29 23:26:53 <kerio> including irc
Dec 29 23:28:39 <DocScrutinizer05> what was the friggin command to list all channels where I'm on the access list?
Dec 29 23:29:49 <kerio> DocScrutinizer05: i'm not sure there's such a command
Dec 29 23:29:55 <DocScrutinizer05> there is
Dec 29 23:30:28 <DocScrutinizer05> just I forgot the exact syntax
Dec 29 23:30:43 <DocScrutinizer05> hell, I forgot the service and command name
Dec 29 23:32:37 <DocScrutinizer05> /ns listchans
Dec 29 23:33:07 <DocScrutinizer05> dafaq :-o
Dec 29 23:33:30 <DocScrutinizer05> 28
Dec 29 23:34:21 <teotwaki> +AFRfiorstv
Dec 29 23:34:23 <teotwaki> am I owner?
Dec 29 23:34:39 <DocScrutinizer05> F = founder (owner)
Dec 29 23:35:04 <teotwaki> how do I drop the channel?
Dec 29 23:35:11 <teotwaki> It's been used for a whole 2 years, methinks
Dec 29 23:35:18 <DocScrutinizer05> /cs drop?
Dec 29 23:36:04 <teotwaki> cool
Dec 29 23:40:17 <DocScrutinizer05> teotwaki: it's *not* been used for...  ??
Dec 29 23:40:38 <teotwaki> no no
Dec 29 23:40:42 <teotwaki> it was used for 2 years
Dec 29 23:40:53 <teotwaki> roughly... 6 years
Dec 29 23:40:55 <teotwaki> ago
Dec 29 23:40:57 <DocScrutinizer05> 12 years ago?
Dec 29 23:41:02 <DocScrutinizer05> :nod:
Dec 29 23:43:08 <DocScrutinizer05> a tad of consolidation every now and then helps push the universe's entropy heat death a few minutes into the future
Dec 29 23:43:36 <DocScrutinizer05> well, probably not really
Dec 29 23:44:00 <teotwaki> eh?
Dec 29 23:44:05 <DocScrutinizer05> since everything increases the total entropy
Dec 29 23:44:06 <kerio> probably a few picoseconds
Dec 29 23:44:19 <teotwaki> femtoseconds
Dec 29 23:44:35 <kerio> DocScrutinizer05: yeah but you don't necessarily create more entropy by reducing the amount of entropy created over time of some process
Dec 29 23:44:42 <DocScrutinizer05> end reducing local entropy particularly increases total entropy
Dec 29 23:44:59 <kerio> you're not reducing the local entropy, you're reducing the increase over time of a specific process
Dec 29 23:45:47 <DocScrutinizer05> that would be true when we refrain from creating new useless channels. Dropping channels however reduces local entropy
Dec 29 23:46:50 <teotwaki> 1 attosecond – the time it takes for light to travel the length of three hydrogen atoms.
Dec 29 23:46:54 <DocScrutinizer05> at least the entropy in the logical system freenode
Dec 29 23:47:05 <teotwaki> "For context, an attosecond is to a second what a second is to about 31.71 billion years, or twice the age of the universe."
Dec 29 23:47:29 <teotwaki> anyway
Dec 29 23:47:31 <teotwaki> I'm off
Dec 29 23:47:33 <teotwaki> 'later
Dec 29 23:47:34 <DocScrutinizer05> o/
Dec 29 23:47:51 <kerio> DocScrutinizer05: the entropy is increases but then it keeps increasing at a lower rate because of that channel
Dec 29 23:47:55 <kerio> *increased
Dec 29 23:48:28 <DocScrutinizer05> hmmm, interesting hypothesis
Dec 29 23:48:49 <DocScrutinizer05> might actually be correct
Dec 29 23:54:49 <DocScrutinizer05> wtf is wrong with my typing lately? "END reducing.... "???
Dec 29 23:55:14 <DocScrutinizer05> obviously that should've been "and reducing...."
Dec 30 00:03:50 <DocScrutinizer05> on given cause:
Dec 30 00:03:55 <DocScrutinizer05> ~autoaway
Dec 30 00:03:55 <infobot> rumour has it, autoaway is We don't care if you're 'afk', 'having a shower' or 'doing my wife'. If we really want to know, we'll /whois you. So please disable any public messages your client sends when you go /away or come back, as there are over 800 people here. If everyone did something annoying, we'd never get any conversation in. In BX, /set auto_away off. /saveirc, or nick changes are just as annoying.
Dec 30 00:05:34 <kerio> is BX bitchx?
Dec 30 00:05:39 <kerio> i didn't know anybody still used it
Dec 30 01:11:26 <DocScrutinizer05> ~factinfo autoaway
Dec 30 01:11:26 <infobot> autoaway -- last modified at Thu Jun  2 00:34:33 2005 by blitzrage!~blitzrage@blitzrage.documenter.extraordinaire.of.asterisk; it has been requested 4 times, last by DocScrutinizer05, 1h 7m 31s ago.
Dec 30 01:14:20 <DocScrutinizer05> I still see an occasional "too lame to read bitchx howto" in user details
Dec 30 01:16:10 <jon_y> DocScrutinizer05: ctcp?
Dec 30 01:16:34 <DocScrutinizer05> not really, just usual username
Dec 30 01:16:51 <soviettrash> wtf is captain cheese pizza
Dec 30 01:16:55 <DocScrutinizer05> but maybe that's actually a year or two ago I last seen it
Dec 30 01:17:16 <jon_y> hmm, no idea what the default bitchx username is
Dec 30 01:17:19 <DocScrutinizer05> soviettrash: eh?
Dec 30 01:17:36 <soviettrash> nevermind
Dec 30 01:17:47 <DocScrutinizer05> jon_y: maybe "I'm too lame to read bitchx manpage"?
Dec 30 01:18:05 <jon_y> that is the actual username?
Dec 30 01:18:32 <DocScrutinizer05> dunno, I never used bitchx
Dec 30 01:19:10 <DocScrutinizer05> but yeah, I think I've seen that as username
Dec 30 01:19:43 <DocScrutinizer05> like yours is "enforcer"
Dec 30 01:20:16 <jon_y> DocScrutinizer05: I've been using that since forever
Dec 30 01:20:22 <DocScrutinizer05> which I guess is not your real name
Dec 30 01:21:04 <jon_y> nope, far from it
Dec 30 01:21:50 <jon_y> heh, gnome3 default on Debian is rather pleasant
Dec 30 01:22:22 <jon_y> than again, I only get the default X desktop envrionment at work
Dec 30 01:22:29 <jon_y> if you can call it that
Dec 30 01:22:41 <jon_y> just floating xterm all around
Dec 30 01:23:13 <DocScrutinizer05> errr
Dec 30 01:24:58 <jon_y> oh, did I mention it is over VNC? the machine is half way around the world
Dec 30 01:25:18 <jon_y> lag bad lag in the UI, makes me feel tired after an hour of work
Dec 30 01:26:41 <DocScrutinizer05> vnc sounds nasty for that
Dec 30 01:26:55 <DocScrutinizer05> couldn't you do ssh x-forwarding?
Dec 30 01:27:20 <jon_y> x-forward to my windows laptop? :)
Dec 30 01:27:47 <jon_y> hmm, I should try that with Cygwin
Dec 30 01:27:49 <DocScrutinizer05> err, iirc cycwin and some other windows app can actually do that
Dec 30 01:28:00 <DocScrutinizer05> cygwin
Dec 30 01:28:34 <DocScrutinizer05> allegedly that other software is simpler and better than cygwin in that respect
Dec 30 01:28:58 <M4rtinK> xming ?
Dec 30 01:29:00 <jon_y> x forward over SSH is even worst, I did actually try that
Dec 30 01:29:22 <jon_y> M4rtinK: I already have Cygwin installed with X, might as well try that :)
Dec 30 01:29:26 <DocScrutinizer05> xming, yep
Dec 30 01:29:47 <jon_y> is xming free?
Dec 30 01:29:52 <jon_y> and Free?
Dec 30 01:30:08 <DocScrutinizer05> I think so
Dec 30 01:30:13 <DocScrutinizer05> ~xming
Dec 30 01:30:15 <jon_y> why yes it is
Dec 30 01:30:21 <jon_y> on sf.net
Dec 30 01:31:29 <jon_y> now to figure out if there is an actual NAT layer blocking
Dec 30 01:31:39 <jon_y> well, I'll find out on Monday
Dec 30 01:54:44 <jon_y> DocScrutinizer05: does it make sense to add cssu stuff into scratchbox?
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